The INSANE 1950s British Nuclear Bomber With No Tail

@phatnguyen5300 Жыл бұрын

As I remember, the reverse seat aims for passenger safety, they performed a crash test, and the result showed the passenger sitting on reverse seat distribute the force of impact more equally, especially for the neck, but the reverse seat can't be found outside the test due to the passenger wouldn't be like it, and maybe cause vehicle sick

@Nomad416 Жыл бұрын

I was curious about that and Googled it. What came up for me is that while reverse seats are indeed safer, it came down to some people getting motion sickness in addition to forward-facing seats giving them the impression of being treated better.

@KanJonathan Жыл бұрын

I once saw a photo of cutaway Vickers V.1000/VC.7 scale model with passenger seats face backward, sadly can't recover it by Google picture search.

@ingvarhallstrom2306 Жыл бұрын

Simply put, people prefer to sit forwards, even if that means less safety in a crash.

@brucermarino Жыл бұрын

Agreed with the safety explanation (although people do prefer to sit looking forward). This has even been proposed for somewhat more prosaic modes of transport such as school buses also for safety reasons. Thanks!

@potatoradio Жыл бұрын

Essentially there are 2 components in a crash. Facing backwards puts the shock on the whole back vs straps so less psi. Also head flung rearward (whiplash) is far worse than it being flung forward at the end of a crash.

@alkatiawri3741 Жыл бұрын

This aircraft still looks futuristic and looks absolutely beautiful

@willc1294 6 ай бұрын

Gerry Anderson was on the design team

@kennethhawley1063 Жыл бұрын

Rearward facing seats are generally thought to be safer in an accident. I flew to Bahrein in an RAF Vickers VC10 in the sixties, which had rearward facing seats. Incidentally I also attended the lecture by the Barnes Wallis himself (think it was 1963), where he revealed Swallow project to the public.

@Jupiture00 Жыл бұрын

I was fortunate enough to also have had the experience of flying in one from Sydney to RAF Brize Norton uk return in late 80's.

@ianb5949 Жыл бұрын

I was at that lecture

@mrjockt Жыл бұрын

The “reverse” seat layout was something Vickers did continue with later on with the VC10, it was considered to be a safety feature for ground incidents.

@najaB76 Жыл бұрын

I flew aboard a VC-10 with rearwards facing seating. It was a little strange but not at all uncomfortable.

@bob_the_bomb4508 Жыл бұрын

@@najaB76 me too. The RAF VC-10 were configured in this way.

@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been seated backwards while flying on both the C-5 Galaxy and the C-141 USAF transport aircraft

@isaiahc8390 Жыл бұрын

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

@beepthemeep12 Жыл бұрын

Walking off a VC10 is a momentary mindfuck

@mikerichards6065 Жыл бұрын

Hawker Siddeley offered backwards seats in economy on its highly-advanced, but too small, Trident airliner which entered service in the mid 1960s. It was thought to be safer in the event of an accident as the passenger would be decelerated into the seat rather than thrown out of it. You can also see backwards seats in the SOV from ‘Captain Scarlet’.

@solarfinder Жыл бұрын

In the states, southwest airlines offered rear facing seats so that the passengers could speak to each other. That stopped by 1990 as it was similar to people turning around in the elevator/lift and speaking to the group. Awkward. :)

@barrybend7189 Жыл бұрын

*SPV* from Captain Scarlett.

@tristacker Жыл бұрын

Royal Air Force passenger transport aircraft all had rearward facing seats.

@Twirlyhead Жыл бұрын

I'll let you off with that given that the O is adjacent to the P on most keyboards.

@crome676 Жыл бұрын

@@barrybend7189 SPV from 'Captain Scarlet'* lol

@YaBoiNicho Жыл бұрын

I can only imagine the nightmare maintenance would have if this craft ever made it to the prototype phase.

@mikewhiskey6796 Жыл бұрын

I was literally about to write this exact thought

@obi-ron 10 ай бұрын

Not as bad as the US F111 or the F14 Tomcat which were both developed using Barnes Wallis' research shared by Britain from this project.

@solofilmproduction 4 ай бұрын

I'm delighted the world went through the swing-wing craze but damn it was expensive!@@obi-ron

@norbis3939 Жыл бұрын

This is up there with the blackbird and B2 Spirit as one of the coolest, most futuristic looking planes ever made.

@marcbrasse747 Жыл бұрын

As a boy I had a weird little toy airplane in my pencil bag. Everything was molded into one single shape so the underlying VG concept was not very clear. I only found out about the significance of that shape years later when it turned out to be a rough representation of The Swallow. Barnes Wallis was so far ahead his time. A possible reason for the back to front seats could be the idea to use engine exhaust thrust reversal to slow the aircraft down during landing. Roll out length for every supersonic airplane is excessive compared to earlier generations. The concept still make sense today anyway. The fixed center section indeed would have solved the pitch up problems Vickers was concerned about, as aircraft like the F111, Mig 23, Tomcat and Tornado have since then proven. Furthermore the rotating engines are at a perfect position to avoid wing tip stall. Later airplanes have dogtooth leading edges and LERX for the very same reason. Barnes Wallis was actually against military planes. He has felt very responsible about the Dambuster strikes being so dangerous. It has been written that the passenger version of the Swallow was his real goal and he only proposed the military version to get enough money for further development of the concept.

@trevortrevortsr2 Жыл бұрын

I read Barnes Wallace biography - one thing that struck me was that early in WW2 his wife sister & hubby were killed in the Blitz - Barnes & his wife on getting the news immediately set off in their vintage car and picked up their two surviving boys and adopted them fully in to their own family - Barns said there was no discussion they just did it - I'm sure this scenario played out in many households in them dark days - it was however a sign of the qualities of this brilliant inventor and partner.

@williamanderson5437 9 ай бұрын

If his wife was killed in the Blitz - how could she then adopt the two surviving boys - simply does not make sense... Please clarify.

@mrhoneycutter 8 ай бұрын

@@williamanderson5437it was his wife’s sister, OP forgot the apostrophe and “s”.

@uingaeoc3905 Жыл бұрын

Wallis was a genius - Geodesic construction on the R100 airship, the Wellesley and Wellington bombers, Bouncing Bomb and the Supersonic Bunker Busting super heavyweight Tallboy and Grand Slam bombs. But Swallow was allowing his imagination to outstrip practicality. Vickers contemporaries regarded his department as wasting talent and money on this and similar projects because the Swallow's issues of control and construction could not be addressed until decades later when we had developed unstable fly by wire, digital engine control and composite manufacturing and construction. Wallis's colleague and eventual boss, Sir George Edwards, knew a thing or two about practicalities as he created the Valiant V-Bomber fleet into service on time and budget, ran the VC10, TSR2 and Concorde projects. When asked did he think the Concorde was a rather conservative approach to a supersonic passenger plane compared to the Boeing 2707 SST he said "It was to carry 200 passengers, more than any other airliner. It was to do it at Mach 3 for five hours, of which our actual experience was a few minutes. It was to be fully variable geometry wing, only a handful of experimental and military prototypes had used the system. It would weigh a Million Pounds. It just wasn't going to happen." You don't think the image in his head was just the B 2707 surely?

@kakavdedatakavunuk8516 Жыл бұрын

The geodesic construction is not his invention, this method was used on large wooden ships in 18 century.

@uingaeoc3905 Жыл бұрын

@@kakavdedatakavunuk8516 Where did I say it was Wallis's invention? I simply pointed out his genius was to apply it to large aero structures.

@kakavdedatakavunuk8516 Жыл бұрын

@@uingaeoc3905 He is credited for this (not by you), I just wanted to clear this.

@isaiahc8390 Жыл бұрын

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

@alexandermarken7639 Жыл бұрын

The simple fact of the engine as a control surface was great, it was also a major problem. The gathering the engines into the tail and the installation of thrust vectoring would have simplified the aircraft, lowered wing weights and also improved survivability. As a aircraft with reduced radar cross section and high speed it's use as a recon aircraft would have been excellent. It would not have been as fast as the SR-71 but still acceptable until better engines and titanium pushed it into that speed range. It would also be interesting to see what a smaller scale interceptor with considerable weapon bay capacity yet excellent range and manuvering due to vectored thrust etc. All in all yet another example of what I consider to be a deliberate policy of wasting the British capacity in favour of the Americans.

@GonzoDonzo Жыл бұрын

Just pray u dont lose an engine. I wonder if a pilot could even catch it if one failed suddenly. Modern avionics definitely could

@speleokeir 9 ай бұрын

Well for decades after WWII Britain was still paying off loans to the US meaning Britain was in the US government's pocket. The Americans used this fact to heavily influence British foreign policy and anything they thought might threaten US interests and companies. Consequently many British innovations were either stolen by the US with the British government turning a blind eye, or shut down at the Americans behest due to the threat of the US calling in the loans or declining future loans to Britain.

@michaelfrench3396 Жыл бұрын

I don't know which amazes me more about your channel. On one hand, you've got breathtaking beautifully rendered video of aircraft. Most people have never heard of and all the videos are incredibly well researched. On the other hand, every video contains what has to be the slickest introduction for an in video advertisement for squarespace. 😂👍👍 Keep up the great work man. It's appreciated!

@paultinker1963 Жыл бұрын

The RAF had the VC10 which also had rear facing seats. It was a safety thing. The only reason planes don’t use this idea is because people like to face the way they are travelling. It’s as simple as that.

@DeliveryMcGee Жыл бұрын

I miss Pan Am as much as anybody else, but shouldn't it be in BOAC Speedbird livery? Juan Trippe had Boeing building whatever he wanted.

@randycampbell6307 Жыл бұрын

The seats were 'backwards' for safety reasons as studies had shown them to be more crashworthy. Several aircraft both concept and built have had backwards seats and from experience (20 years flying passenger in military cargo aircraft) they are much more comfortable if you're faced with rough landings or hard deceleration.

@Geoff31818 Жыл бұрын

The Vickers VC10 in RAF service had its seats backwards. supposedly because in a low speed crash you absorb the G forces and shock better

@robertsnary472 Жыл бұрын

Duncan Sandys MP believed in all missiles rather than manned aircraft which scrapped aircraft like TSR2, and future British aircraft and was the nail in the coffin of future British Projects Also Barnes Wallis wanted to spend time flying models rather than risking test pilotslives as he was shaken by losses in aircraft like the Wellington ( which he designed) and also the losses in 617 squadron on the Dams raid. The money he received forhis work on the Dams Raid, Tallboy & Grandslam bombs he donated to a trust for educating children of RAF aircrew who were lost in WW2

@octowuss1888 Жыл бұрын

Duncan Sandys was correct - the missile was king. Ballistic missiles meant that interceptors were redundant and AA missiles meant that long range bombers were extremely vulnerable. Even the mighty A-12 (far faster and higher flying than TSR-2) almost came a cropper in Vietnam with an SA-2 exploding close enough to put debris through a wing fillet into the fuel tank support. The SA-2 was not even state of the art, being designed for slower and lower flying aircraft. If the more advanced SA-5 has been deployed, US aircraft would have been in trouble.

@marc1829 Жыл бұрын

One of your very best! As an aeronautical engineer, I have always love the Swallow and wondered why it never went anywhere, so thanks for the explanation. Also, a wonderful treat to hear the great Barnes Wallis speaking for the first time.

@fredtedstedman Жыл бұрын

Barnes-Wallis was always ahead of his time , a great hero of mine ! I have only seen his flying model , the SST and Bomber looks amazing ! Don't know about travelling backwards though , I cant even go backwards in a Taxi without being sick !.

@exidy-yt Жыл бұрын

Not an airliner, but the rail transit system of Greater Vancouver in Canada, SkyTrain, has a number of rear-facing seat train-cars, as well as forward facing ones. Most people seem to not have a preference for one or the other.

@Spermwhales93 Жыл бұрын

I definitely think this plane could be made today with how much things have advanced. Barnes Wallis was thinking 2020s thoughts in a 1950s world, at least when it came to the technology he had access to.

@stevenhoman2253 Жыл бұрын

The rear-ward facing seats were a safety feature of the amazingly advanced Vickers VC-10 It also had a completely automated landing system plus much more. worth an episode on it's own.

@ImmortalTreknique Жыл бұрын

Backwards seats are safer for impacts. Passengers said they didn't want to travel backwards when surveyed. 😁👍💪👊🍻

@WTH1812 Жыл бұрын

Amazing how much state-of-the-art innovations from the 1950s are still state-of-the-art today. From flying wing bombers to tilt rotor aircraft to tailless thrust vector control it puzzles me how often we reinvent what already exists.

@Yelocalhooman Жыл бұрын

Bro woke up and choose to ignore physics 💀

@rizwanansaari780 Жыл бұрын

Buy a dictionary dude

@johnfoulke9241 Жыл бұрын

@@rizwanansaari780 😂

@Eidolon1andOnly Жыл бұрын

*chose *physics

@Yelocalhooman Жыл бұрын

Sorry, im didnt speak english well because my main language is not english

@Yelocalhooman Жыл бұрын

@@Eidolon1andOnly but i think the word "choose" is already right

@alanrogers7090 Жыл бұрын

From my research, the rear-facing seats were to prevent injuries in the event of an accident. The theory was that due to the greater speed, having your back to the direction of "impact" would cushion the passengers better than a forward-facing seat relying of flimsy seat belts., ahich might cut peoplew in half due to the G-forces.

@andreperrault5393 Жыл бұрын

I rode the Vickers VC-10 in RAF service in 1986. All the passenger seats were “backwards” (facing aft) for passenger safety. This was in case of rapid deceleration, you sat upright and the deceleration would push you forward into your seat rather than off your seat. That was what I was told, anyway.

@morganahoff2242 Жыл бұрын

I know that! My father was in the armed forces in the 1960's and explained that to me. It was common for armed forces air transports to have backwards-facing seats, because a study had shown that more passengers survive a crash in that configuration. Though the same would be true in the crash of a civilian flight, facing the seats backwards had passengers boarding the plane and encountering the, "suggestion" that a crash was imminent. So the choice makes passengers feel more safe, when in fact more of them are likely to get injured.

@obi-ron 10 ай бұрын

It was also more comfortable than facing forward during heavy landings which were much more frequent in the days before the advent of computer assisted flight controls.

@jaykay7932 Жыл бұрын

Long story short, the British gvt basically gave the research to the Americans just like everything else the brits created (or captured) after ww2

@globalautobahn1132 13 күн бұрын

How sad for their brilliant eng😢😊…

@PAIP_Studio Жыл бұрын

The seats facing backwards is the correct way to put seats in an airplane. It is a best optimized configuration for rapid deceleration and it increases the chances of survival in a crash-landing. In those plane you don't need to put your head on your lap during a crash-landing in order for you to survive.

@parkpunk2 Жыл бұрын

The engines rotating with the wings is wonderful.

@mikemontgomery2654 Жыл бұрын

The reverse seats are actually much safer and much easier on the human spine, in the event of a crash or accident. I've seen them used on the C-2A Greyhound carrier delivery aircraft when loaded up with passenger seats. Much better for the people flying in the back, when being arrested on the carrier deck.

@gonun69 Жыл бұрын

This would be interesting to build in KSP. Might give it a go but those hinges will be complicated to build...

@billyelliot4141 Жыл бұрын

Great video man. Never heard of this plane before. Thanks for the info. You may notice that in commercial airline crashes the crew have a lot higher survival rates than the regular passengers this is because they are seated in the rear and face backwards. ✈️👍💪

@Tahoebronco Жыл бұрын

When I was enlisted in the USAF back in the 1980's, the troop seats in the C-141 and C-5 (upper deck) where always facing back towards the tail. I found it uncomfortable during flight and especially at take off and landing. I was told the configuration was for safety reasons.

@alankohn6709 Жыл бұрын

It was beloved that this was a safer configuration in case of an accident with the passengers being thrust into their seat helping to mitigate the forces instead of being throw out of them and only being held in by a belt during the crash. Having heard that, that is why Jerry Anderson of Thunderbirds fame had the the seat facing backwards in Captain Scarlett's Spectrum Pursuit Vehicle

@TheKulu42 Жыл бұрын

It reminds me of the drones flying today. A lot of times, these concepts from the past look more futuristic than the technology we have now!

@Justanotherconsumer Жыл бұрын

Trying to build this thing without fly by wire seems like a recipe for disaster.

@JensenKangalee Жыл бұрын

Another Quality Video as always! Thank you so very much. On another note, that aircraft reminds me of a cartoon I loved watching back in the 80's called, "G-Force: Guardians of Space"

@Laurence0227 Жыл бұрын

in a hind sight of modern classic aernautical engineering, I'd move the engines to the centre fuselage with thrut vectoring exhaust nozzle instead of the whole pylon, and I'd remove the tail fuselage and blend the rest of the body with the wing

@GuagoFruit Жыл бұрын

The more of these I watch the quicker I can intuit why these things failed. Most of the time it's too much movement and complexity in critical components like engines and main wings.

@M167A1 Жыл бұрын

It's mainly a factor of the state of the art advancing at such a rapid pace. It's hard for the engineering and the experience to keep up. We still have a tendency to do this, we know something out to be possible but we just can't quite get there

@davidmackie8552 Жыл бұрын

Too many things to go wrong

@redlioness6627 Жыл бұрын

The biggest problem the Post-War British Aviation Industry ever had was Americans!

@profo4544 Жыл бұрын

All the german ww2 performance fighters were built around the engine, a inverted v12, look at a fw 190 dora from the rear, its wider on the bottom, and comes to a point at the top like a pyramid. The entire plane is built around the engine being inverted. And yeah back in those days 70s and such, switch/swing wing craft drawings and types were all over the place, the mechanism was always way to heavy to implement ina commerical airliner, the navy figured it out with the f-14, wich is a well performing jet, so it could work very well.

@isaiahc8390 Жыл бұрын

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

@hueyiroquois3839 Жыл бұрын

8:51 I'm pretty sure that there both engines on one side would have to fail for there to a complete loss of control. With the reliability of modern engines, that seems likely to be less of a problem now.

@serge7633 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing mate. Doing very well and interesting aircrafts indeed.

@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle Жыл бұрын

Britain in the 1950s was looking further ahead than Britain is now.

@dc-4ever201 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful, however I doubt the engine mount joints would handle repeated stress of being pulled in multiple directions as metallurgy of the jet age wasn't understood until the Comet airliners started crashing, that plus the complexity of controlling the aircraft with electronics of the day would have made this a tall order. Moving the engines inboard and vectoring thrust from them could have worked alot better, that way if one engine is lost you can still control the aircraft.

@dannydaw59 Жыл бұрын

It was certainly ahead of its time. In the late 50s they were using vacuum tubes although they could have gotten hold of transistors.

@dc-4ever201 Жыл бұрын

@@dannydaw59 Maybe if it were still in testing for like 10-15 years giving technology time to catch up, like present day stealth fighters trace their lines back to F117 which were tested for around the same time, but still launched in a semi primitive state (lacking radars, issues with paint etc) which the high maintenance cost led to their short service lives. I still think the engine mount pins would be it's main weakness, as they simply didn't have the advanced knowledge of metallurgy and how jets put a strain on different points.

@isaiahc8390 Жыл бұрын

Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation 6 1st Seal: White horse = Roman Empire conquering nations under Trajan 98-117 AD & Gospel spreading rapidly. 2nd Seal: Red horse, bloody civil wars with 32 different Emperors, most killed by the sword. 185-284 AD 3rd Seal: Black horse, economic despair from high taxes to pay for wars, farmers stopped growing. 200-250 AD 4th Seal: Pale horse, 1/4th of Romans died from famine, pestilence; at one point 5,000 dying per day. 250-300 AD 5th Seal: Diocletian persecuted Smyrna church era saints for ten years, blood crying out for vengeance. 303-312 AD 6th Seal: Political upheaval in the declining Roman Empire while the leaders battled each other. 313-395 AD Revelation 7 Sealing of 144,000, the saints, before trumpet war judgments, which led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Revelation 8 1st Trumpet: Alaric and the Goths attacked from the north, the path of hail, and set it on fire. 400-410 AD 2nd Trumpet: Genseric and the Vandals attacked the seas and coastlands, the blood of sailors in water. 425-470 AD 3rd Trumpet: Attila and the Huns scourged the Danube, Rhine & Po rivers area, dead bodies made water bitter. 451 AD 4th Trumpet: Odoacer and the Heruli caused the last Western Emperor (sun), Senate (moon) to lose power. 476 AD With the Western Roman Emperor (restrainer of 2 Thes. 2) removed; the son of perdition Popes took power. Revelation 9 Two woe judgments against the central 1/3rd and eastern 1/3rd of the Roman Empire. 612-1453 AD 5th Trumpet: Locust & scorpions point to Arabia, the rise of the Muslim army. Islam hides Gospel from Arabs. 612-762 AD 6th Trumpet: Turks released to attack Constantinople with large cannons (fire, smoke, brimstone). 1062-1453 AD Revelation 10 The little book is the printed Bible, which was needed after the Dark Ages when Scriptures were banned by Popes. Revelation 11 7th Trumpet: Martin Luther measured Roman Church; found that it’s an apostate church, not part of true temple. The two witnesses are the Scriptures and saints who proclaim the pure Gospel and testify against the antichrist Popes. Papal Church pronounced Christendom dead in 1514 AD. Silence for 3.5 years. Then Luther posted his 95 Thesis, which sparked the Protestant Reformation and brought the witnesses back to life. Millions of Catholics were saved. Revelation 12 Satan used the Roman Empire to try to wipe out the early Church, Satan was cast down as the Empire collapsed. Revelation 13 The antichrist beast Popes reigned in power 1,260 years, 538-1798, is the little horn of Daniel 7, son of perdition. The false prophet Jesuit Superior General rose to power from land (earth) of Vatican and has created many deceptions. Revelation 14 Points to great harvest during the Protestant Reformation & wrath on Catholic countries who obey antichrist Pope. Revelation 15 Overcoming saints victorious over the beast. Prelude to 7 vials and judgment on those who support Papal Rome. Revelation 16 1st Vial: The foul sore of atheism was poured out on Catholic France, leaving them with no hope, led to revolution. 2nd Vial: The French Revolution started in 1793, killed 250,000, as France had obeyed the Pope and killed saints. 3rd Vial: The French Revolution spread to rural areas of France, where Protestants had been killed in river areas. 4th Vial: The bloody Napoleonic wars shed the blood of countries who had revered and obeyed the antichrist Pope. 5th Vial: Judgment on the seat of the beast. Papal States invaded in 1798, Pope imprisoned, removed from power. 6th Vial: The Turks vast domain dried up, they were only left with Turkey. They lost control of Palestine in 1917 AD, Israel became a nation again in 1948

@kakavdedatakavunuk8516 Жыл бұрын

Is there any serious explanation why the engines have to rotate following the wing movements and not be rigidly attached to the fuselage or strakes? How much does this constructive solution (putting the engine near the end of the wing) make the wing heavier compared to a clean swing wing?

@animeemail8902 Жыл бұрын

It was so they could have the thrust vectoring gimmick.

@kakavdedatakavunuk8516 Жыл бұрын

@@animeemail8902 Couldn't, at high-speed whole construction will fall apart under pressure if you rotate the engine in XY. Also if the structure somehow survives you will stall the aircraft.

@peteturner3928 Жыл бұрын

Flew in a few RAF Vickers VC-10's back in my army days, their seats always faced to the rear in them too, probably because the RAF planes were modular and could be turned from passenger carriers into airborne hospitals or tankers etc, Civvie ones always faced the right way though.

@robertsnead6844 Жыл бұрын

The C2 for aircraft carriers for the United States are used as prevention of neck injury during a catapult launch. A C2 everyone who is a passenger has to lean into their seat belts upon cat shot. Until you are told to relax after the takeoff and fast climb. Also the rear facing seats were able to install faster in modules after cargo delivery.

@edwardfletcher7790 Жыл бұрын

The engineering challenges of the plane would definitely have exceeded the capabilities of 1950's tech....

Жыл бұрын

Impressive beautiful aircraft concept that is. Imagine what the world would be like today if only some of those bold designs where made a reality. 🤔

@kevinw729 Жыл бұрын

@FoundAndExplained - a possible reason for the seats being reversed could be that Wallace was looking at the military transport variant first - many UK troop transports favoured this seating - which is still seen as safest in an emergency - but has fallen out of favour.

@SeanDrewett Жыл бұрын

Rear facing seats are much safer in a crash than forward facing. In some passenger transport aircraft made for the RAF (e.g. Vickers VC10) I recall all the seats were rear facing as the troops didn’t have a choice to fly with anyone else but this was never translated into the civilian version. As Vickers mostly made military designs it probably never occurred to the blueprint artist to do anything different.

@TheRyujinLP Жыл бұрын

As much as this plane is a beauty, like legit it looked like flying royalty, as soon as I saw how much those engines could gimbled how much the plane need them all working to fly I knew why this project was canceled. Sadly with 50's material science those engines were just a bad day away from being ripped off their mounts of snapping the wing. And throw in plane where losing a single engine means you're now in a flying train wreck, yeah... sadly it was just too ahead of it's time. And god, I don't even want to think of how complex working those mounts would be. Now if someone wanted to make one today with modern materials and fly by wire technology, I think it could work. Any billionaires watching this video who want to take on a high risk/high reward aeronautics project?

@Mr00Chief00 Жыл бұрын

First question that popped into my head when I saw how this plane would steer by using its engines: What if you lose 1 engine? So nice idea but there's a clear reason why it was never build. Also, he came up with a cargo submarine (I'm assuming for civilian use?). What on earth would be the benefit of that compared to a surface ship?

@kitbag9033 Жыл бұрын

Re steering in the event of engine loss; shut down one on the other side or throttle both back to balance forces. As for the submarine I seem to recall it had something to do with great circle routes under the Arctic ocean. Wouldn't have worked down south ; )

@timpeterson2738 Жыл бұрын

I remember building a lego model of this in the 70's, back then we didn't get kits, we had to design and modify our builds.

@kajlauritzen9765 Жыл бұрын

Many years ago I travelled in a military aircraft in Greenland. Seats were facing backwards but I don't remember any discomfort.

@devvy_01 Жыл бұрын

"This is one of the biggest tragedies in aviation" Me: is it TSR2

@blackasp001 Жыл бұрын

If International Rescue did a nuclear strike!

@chheinrich8486 Жыл бұрын

Thunderbirds are nuked🤣

@MareSerenitis Жыл бұрын

@@chheinrich8486 c'mon. "Thunderbirds are glow" was right there!

@chheinrich8486 Жыл бұрын

@@MareSerenitis your right im sorry😊

@flymacseamus3474 Жыл бұрын

Now imagine one of those flying in formation with a bunch of Spitfires at the Queen's Jubilee... you could then legitimately ask "Spits or Swallow?"

@Wowflunky Жыл бұрын

I know the seating configuration was a safety feature used on some planes, but if memory serves there was a study done back in the day about the effects of transitioning and buffeting when moving through the sound barrier more specifically the deceleration stage of flight. The thought was that military personnel would be accustomed to it and expect it but until super sonic flight was common place for commercial applications civilians might be injured. I believe the study was done several times, including the Concord aircraft.

@Cornylius76 Жыл бұрын

BRI'ISH INVENTIONS BE LIKE

@sop1918 Жыл бұрын

Where’s the flying tea pot?

@Carsplanes200 Жыл бұрын

@@sop1918 Or Flying Beef Wellington

@sop1918 Жыл бұрын

Yeh lol how bout the flying bacon and eggs

@raypurchase801 Жыл бұрын

The office of Barnes Wallis is preserved at the RAF Museum in Hendon: His furniture, desk, drawing board etc. There is a small aerodynamic test model of this aircraft in the recreated office.

@FrequencyORD Жыл бұрын

Hi there, Found and Explained! I absolutely love your videos and have binge watched almost all of them! I would love if you could possibly make a video on the Convair B-36 Peacemaker, thanks.

@zeberdee1972 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video , i never knew about this aircraft . Great video

@Bernie3405 Жыл бұрын

A number of Vickers Viscounts had rear facing seating & I recall flying on a charter flight from Hawarden to Gutterslau in the early sixties on such an aircraft 1

@coreyandnathanielchartier3749 7 ай бұрын

My biggest question regards the shifting CG with movement of the wings. Most VG wings aren't carrying the huge mass of the engines . Avoiding this is one reason why the Tomcat uses a partial sweeping wing, allowing all external stores to be carried by the fuselage and wing 'shoulder'. Yes, I do realize that the center-of-pressure changes with the sweep angle and speed of the aircraft . I will say for sure that's it's a cool-looking machine.

@IAmTheAce5 Жыл бұрын

those sharp lines remind me of what I tried to draw up as a kid getting into aviation

@KevinWMoor Жыл бұрын

The Manchester United air crash, in 1958 (the "Munich air disaster", had more survivors who were sitting in reverse seats than those sitting in forward looking seats.

@stevenmccolm1531 Жыл бұрын

The Vickers VC 10 airliner also had rear facing seats, the theory being during a crash the passengers wouldn't get badly injured.

@elilevine2410 Жыл бұрын

The most intriguing aircraft yet , thanx!!!

@colinbarnard6512 Жыл бұрын

The backwards seats are for safety. Many passenger aircraft manufacturers in the 50's and '60', about the same time the auto industry was considering, and resisting, seat belts. Because the aircraft moves forward, humans riding along are moving forward, too. If the plane was to make a hard landing, sitting backwards allowed the kinetic energy of the human body to be absorbed by the full area of the seat back. Remember Gerry and Sylvia Anderson's 'Thunderbirds'. They did a live action SF show in the early '70's called UFO. That programme also featured the Amderson's usual panoply of really cool paramilitary machines. One in UFO was a armoured land vehicle that featured a driver facing backwards, using TV's to navigate with some semblance of VR. The driver just had to remember to steer right if he wanted to go left, and vice versa. Facing front, passengers in a moving vehicle, plane or tank, would be thrown forward in the event of a crash, or rapid deceleration, contorting their bodies while the seat belt cuts them in half. However safer travelling in backwards facing seats was, Public focus groups showed that the Public was NOT ready to fly backwards, not being able to see what's coming at them. So sitting backwards on a plane was dropped by designers. Seat belts in cars, and later, airbags, were introduced into cars in the late 70's and '80's eventually becoming mandatory.

@Billydevito Жыл бұрын

11:42 The correct pronunciation is F - one - eleven. An outstanding and versatile bomber, with a unique side-by-side seating arrangement which made it an excellent trainer aircraft.

@itsjohndell Жыл бұрын

Very much the contrary. The 111 did not have dual controls. I was the Exec in the 495th TFS, 48 TFW at RAF Lakenheah, England. We were the TRU Squadron and retraining required lots of "watch me" and simulator training. Definitely an excellent aircraft but a lousy trainer.

@kitspackman3994 Жыл бұрын

The RAF required rear facing seats on all their transport aircraft from the late 40s to the 70s. Only the types entering service after the VC10s reverted to forward facing seats. The BEA Tridents retained their reward facing seats in the first few rows after BA took them over, and I flew to Berlin aboard them regularly in the late 70s.

@sethmcgowan3169 Жыл бұрын

Same reasons we put infant car seats backwards in cars. Increase in survivability plus increases comfort on the long deceleration times needed to stop safely.

@adamconroy2146 Жыл бұрын

Hi m8. I believe that slowing to stop from mac 2 may have been more comfortable than the forces of acceleration when seats are configured thus.

@KOZMOuvBORG Жыл бұрын

2:53 the vectored thrust sounds like operating an outboard motor on a boat. What if a failure occur with both engines on one side?

@riderstrano783 Жыл бұрын

5:51 it’s a safety measure, a lot of high-speed trains today have the provisions for it, as it’s been found that when undergoing a catastrophic failure and deceleration at speed, a backwards facing chair will give better bodily support, lessening the chance for whiplash related injuries, as well as providing a physical barrier between the occupants and debris. For more context, look up the 1984 German ICE crash. A large percent of the survivors from the derailed portion of the train have their lives attributed to rear-facing seats

@vincentnowak6200 Жыл бұрын

@FoundandExplained Seats face rearward in aircraft that require short landings as it is easier for the body to take these high G landings into the seat as opposed to lurching forward out of the seat.

@Wideoval73 Жыл бұрын

Wow Never saw anything like it! Really interesting and very thought provoking.

@jcmount1305 Жыл бұрын

I flew a DC-6 across the Atlantic on Loftleiðir, a single class airline. All the seats forward of the boarding door were backwards.

@willo300 Жыл бұрын

It would be good to see a video about the Rolls Royce Griffith supersonic VTOL airliner. As a child I had an aircraft book and there was a picture of one. I think it had 12 engines for thrust and dozens of lift engines.

@DIDYOUSEETHAT172 Жыл бұрын

5:45 For the same reason rear facing baby car seats are the most popular today, in the event of sudden deceleration rear facing seat reduces the stress inflicted to the back and neck. Spinal injuries are the most prevalent injuries in front facing crashes. The RAF (due to testing finding it safer) personnel transports usually have rear facing seats, civilian airlines won't adopt them because of cost, and I assume consumers would rather face the front than the back.

@DISCO__COWS 9 ай бұрын

Backward seats in the 50s was way ahead of its time for aircraft safety

@Digi20 Жыл бұрын

That vector trust mechanics would have been a nightmare and even today with fly by wire and fluid dynamic calculations of airflow no one suceeded in bringing a design to the market that does not need control surfaces. but heck, all those advanced 50s and 60s designs just look absolutely amazing. imagine a world with the sky full of those things, 6 wheeled nuclear cars running the children to school and massive spinning space stations where you can book your holiday on.

@darticulate8751 8 ай бұрын

The seats are facing the "wrong way" as you say. is wrong actually as they are meant for when the aircraft ever crashes the passengers exit via the bum/ back door unhurt but slightly scratched and possible emptying their bowels on exit ! Woweee !

@jctripplesticks Жыл бұрын

The one downside with improving the cross section design, the jet engine nacelles have a convex surface that would make it relatively easy to pick up

@jaydeveas2930 9 ай бұрын

Technology needed to catch up to the visionary genius of Sir Wallis. This aircraft should be in a movie; like Star Wars.

@grahamariss2111 Жыл бұрын

The reason to have the seats backwards is that they offer better safety in the event of an accident, as you are pushed into your seat rather than thrown out of it. RAF transport aircraft adopt this layout for this reason and the Avro proposed Vulcan based airliner.

@kineticdeath 8 ай бұрын

i remember on the game "simpleplanes" I built a.. thing that was entirely flown and controlled using engines but it had no wings so some of those engines were always pointing down to some degree but they could be angled back (or slightly forward for slowing down). Needless to say while I could fly it as i built it and knew how too, no one else ever gave it a good review lol. Hooray for quirky flying things real or otherwise

@roykliffen9674 10 ай бұрын

Could still work; Using the engines as a whole as attitude control may be insane, but aligning the engines with the fuselage while sweeping the wings is relatively simple. Adding modern directional nozzles to the engines would replace the initial directional control idea of pivoting of the engines on their pylons and effectively create the same control principle.

@declanbrady5172 Жыл бұрын

Some RAF VC10's had rear facing seats. It's about safety and the forces of deceleration exerted in the event of an accident.

@Whiteshirtloosetie Жыл бұрын

1959 and then return trip from Hong Kong in 1962 we travelled in Bristol Britannias with reverse seating. Although civilian airlines they were used by the RAF and military families reverse seating was adopted as standard. Can still remember even though very young being told that if there was in an emergency you are pressed back in your seat and not thrown forward. On the return trip we actually did have an emergency landing in Turkey. Aircraft fixed and 24 hours later flight continued on to Stansted.

@81brassglass79 Жыл бұрын

Bruh the engines pivoting on the wings while they swept back screamed Murphys law to me. What a fucking nightmare machine.

@mikeshilovski1512 Жыл бұрын

I am a former flight attendant. To your question about the seats: I remember when I went through the training, we were taught that facing tail seat configuration is the safest solution for the traveling. Because if the plane makes an emergency landing people would not need to take safety position as the force with which the plane lands would make its job and push passengers into their seats (quite similar to why there is a place for your bag under the seat in front of you). But there were many reasons for the passengers to be facing forward and at this point all airplanes are made this way.

@nchiley Жыл бұрын

Southwest airlines have seats that face each other at the emergency exits. They call them lounges. No tray table, but SWA is mostly business commuters who don't expect meals.

@howardhall5191 Жыл бұрын

Follow on from Fremonts comment about C-141 seat pallets were rear facing. In addition the C-5 Galaxy, the rear upper deck behind the wing box has 50 rear facing seats. The C-5 also had the same plan for main deck seating on rear facing pallets. What a forward thinking design. Changing the trust angle of the engines, even with todays knowledge is would be mind boggling. The B-2 achieves some of the same control with drag devices on the outer wing panels. The landing gear would be interesting.

@janwitts2688 Жыл бұрын

You will see the same seat arrangement in the captain scarlet pursuit vehicle.. reduces likely hood of injury from high speed crash by over 400 percent..

@sithuwin8462 Жыл бұрын

“Reverse” seats arrangement probably for passengers comfort as well. Reducing G-force on body flying supersonic.

@Ni999 Жыл бұрын

Up until 20 years ago, assorted rear-facing seats were not uncommon in commercial airliners in the US. They were removed as seating density marched ever upward.

@zeberdee1972 Жыл бұрын

Vickers VC-10 had rearward facing seats , it was deemed more safer which it was but its a bit weird facing backwards . This i know as i have flown on a VC-10 and it is a weird sensation .

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