I was lucky enough to get my hands on a real Izmash Saiga 12.

Misha you do a great job man. Really like your reviews sir. No BS just the facts. Thinking about picking up one these shotguns...

Thank you for your review sir!

I wish Kalashnikov USA had made a copy of the Molot Vepr shotgun. Way cooler and better built

Excellent and informative presentation. I have both a 12 ga and a 410 ga Russian manufactured shotguns. They have never malfunctioned , ever. They are easy on the shoulder. Back when I bought them, they were very Inexpensive. Now I really want one the versions that you reviewed.

I love how the kalishnikov USA looks. Aggressive . Both amazing

Just the man that I needed to hear from on this baby. I am leaning toward an original (you know why) but if this is close enough, it would save a lot of aggravation.

Get the autogas regulator plug and it will solve undergassed cycling problems and reduce the negative effects of overgassed shells. No more switching between high and low. Also, the hold open is the little notch on the safety lever. 😎

I've had my Saiga 12 since 2007 did the pistol grip conversion on it . I've had 0 issues with it it eats everything on gas setting 1.

Hey mishaco, the safety lever on the KUSA has a bolt hold open notch on it to hold the charging handle. Once ran a little it should start cycling 2.75" 1200 fps @ 1 1/8 oz loads without issue (cheap Wal-Mart ammo). And check the owners manual also, if shooting slugs it will gum up the gas block fast

This thing packs a punch

Wonder if you ever figured out what the notch on the safety lever on the KUSA is meant for? Locks the bolt open just as well as the crappy bolt hold open on the S-12. Also try the TAC-47 gas plug for true ammo capability for S-12 pattern shotguns. BTW own a Krebs S-12 and a self converted S-12 and both proudly wear the TAC-47 plugs for the ability to fire most any 12 gauge ammo. Try it, you will like it.

Pretty relevant to me, I've been thinking about mag-fed shotguns for awhile. Not that I'll actually fork out money for one anytime soon.

Thanks for the videos Misha. I have the same gun minus the folding stock (KS-12T) and just got a UTG Combat D Grip in that flips down into a bipod for it. Thought I'd throw this out there for anyone considering it. With a ProMag 15 round drum and the bipod deployed with the gun resting on the bipod and stock, the drum clears the ground just enough to slide my fingers under it. So it fits and deploys well. Probably wouldn't work so well with a 20 round drum unless you get a dedicated bipod that was taller. But with a 15 round drum, it's a sick setup for cheap that gives you a foregrip and bipod in one and works with the drums. For those wondering on drums. The 10 and 12 round are the same physical size with ProMag, the 15 round seems to fit the gun the best, mine snapped right in securely straight out of the box, and the 20 round would make it cumbersome. I am happy with the 15's also because they aren't clear plastic. Also, the company I got mine from is now listing the D-grip as discontinued. That may mean get one while you still can. They are still around between $40 and $50 bucks as of now. Worth it for what you get.

"...because a select fire 12ga shotgun is rather useless, especially with an eight round capacity..." And yet if you had armed all the police and military with full auto only Saiga 12's, and they stormed the Moscow theatre with them; probably still far fewer casualties than factually resulted from the rescue... Great vid, still have my Saiga 12 I converted myself as a teenager back when that and zombie apocalypse stuff were fads. Mine actually runs light, cheap low brass rather well. Not sure if that's due to more, or less, vodka the day it was made.

Mishaco thanks for the vid on that Arsenal Sam5

The lynx 12 is a very close copy as well. Made in a type 56 factory from my understanding. Has a chrome lined barrel. Comes with threaded barrel and pistol grip. I thought good price as well.

Have you tried the auto gas plug that screws on the threaded portion in place of the adjustable gas plug? I have it on my S12 which was a converted imported sporterized Saiga 12.

Thankfully the only real “secret” to cycling low brass is knocking the gas block off and unshrouding the ports. My four port gun was a single and two half ports lol. Honestly though quick fix and not too terribly technical. Also assuming you’re using Russian factory mags. Also forgot the most import part-thank you guys for another awesome video!

I was thinking about picking up one of AK variant styled shotguns, an had checked out the Kalashnikov USA K12. But it just felt extremely cheap with all the plastic furniture, pretty sure even the outside of the barrel was plastic lined. An allot of guns and rifles have poly parts and furniture, so that wasn't necessarily the issue in itself. It's just certain plastic feels cheaper and/or more sturdy then others, an the new one I checked out at the shop had like some plastic part of it seemingly "falling off" already. The grip felt terrible, I know it's all shit that can easily be swapped. But for around 1,000$'s I just wasn't feeling it at all. Happier with a classic pump action, Mossberg 590. Throw on the Hogue pistol grip, hands down.

Drill out your gas ports. Change your gas puck and a css gas port adjustment

While I have absolutely no use for such a thing, I am delighted that it exists. .I watched a video on something that I hold zero interest in. Great work!

Don't really go for grips with any kind of finger grooves, but that grip looks like a godsend for big hands.

More "jams" in this video , then a 90's mixtape lol..

Will the KS-12 mags work in my Saiga 12???

I guess I got dud, I wanted to love this thing like a saiga 12. I can't get it to feed low brass for anything

kinda a bummer you guys had so many failure's to ejects and stuff with your ks-12. i have put about 700 rounds through mine of cheap 20$ walmart federal and winchester bulk pack ammo and dont think i have had it jam on me once. all i did was spray some lube in the action and turn the gas setting to low. i was going to polish the internals to make it more reliable like i did with my saigas to get them to fire reliably 100% of the time but i found i did not need too. it worked great straight out of the box, unlike the saiga 12s i had to convert and remove the gas block and re do the gas ports and all kinds of stuff to make them a decent reliable gun. it will probably become more reliable over time as you break in the action and it smooths and polishes itself out naturally.

They would be great with either left hand charging/galil style extension, and a krebs ambi safety.

How many law enforcement saiga 12's were brought in do you know

Im very interested in KUSA , RWC , i know they are "not apart or or associated with" Kalashnikov concern but from what ive researched, Seems like they probly got all the data/know how and materials to make exact clones of the RU guns, I mean i could be wrong, but seems like that to me! k concern , was going to import through KUSA then the ban came and KUSA said NYET RIFLES will be made HERE! Haha , Much love and respect man love your channel and what you do! Invaluable info as well as always entertaining! This upcoming year, depending on election results i suppose i plan on grabbing a KUSA shotgun as well as the KR103, Looks and seems promising as well as , Gives time to see how theyr doing by the time i can afford some! Im going to be getting my FFL this year and im going to be a gun dealer! I also live in AR , But , you inspired and gave me the Idea , To finally go for it ! Of course im just gonna do small things here and there but im excited to get into the industry! Haha beautiful shotguns! Thanks for sharing! God bless!

just got a ks12tsfs it would not fire 1200 fps 2 3/4 1 1/8 oz and eject the shells properly no issues with 1450 fps shells tho

My saiga will NOT use anything below 1330ish fps and even then its dribbling out. Maybe ive not broke it in enough, but anything high brass will run fine, even 1350 bird if i put it on setting 2.

Hey guys, what are your opinions on the new fake bakelite mags from RWB? They have a steel locking lug and front tab but no feed lips.

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Just to inform the free world! Bullet buttons on vepr 12 block the bolt hold open feature.

I dont think its the ammo , looking at the video , the rounds are catching on that little dust cover on the recoil spring

I need a Komrad in my Life...

Lynx 12 isn’t bad either

Hi Misha here 🤣😂😅 dude 💀

Ja haysus that is some ten round mag..

I like your beard

any way to somehow add a bolt hold open on the KS-12?

I would love to have one for fun but the issues look too aggravating

my KS-12T has a "1" and "2" instead of "L" and "H" : |

It's funny, the saiga had more problems than the KUSA did.

Bloop😉

But can it store fruit roll-ups?

Unfortunately not ready for prime time!!!!