Childish Memebino ah shit

Childish Memebino I haven’t seen the new one yet so hearing this is disappointing

@@melon502 Yeah it was honestly a cop out. You'll know when you see it.

SPOILERS (obviously) Despite me thinking TROS was a pretty bad movie over all, and that it did retcon Rey’s unimportant parents, I think of all the people to have Rey be related to, Palpatine was probably the best choice... as long as you don’t make a timeline in your head. How old is Sheev!?

Isaiah Davis Apparently 117 years... I think it was great learning something new about him we didn’t already know. He actually did have children. However I don’t think this was done very nicely and out of love... I think he went more about it like Ego in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. Seducing (or worse) unwitting women to sire his children to ultimately use them for his own selfish purposes. What exactly this was and how exactly this went about, is a question left for the inevitable Sheev novel to answer...

Ok boomer

Unfortunately, that is very true.

66th like

This is definitely the truth

@@SirDankleberry Sorry bro, but it seems you dont know how this meme works, which makes you the boomer here...

49th like. Also, I know it would have been risky, but I would have Loved it if Palpatine just told Rey: 'Rey/No... I am your Grandfather.'

shhh

@Benjamin Barth why did they even bring Palpatine back? Couldn’t the villain of TRoS just been Kylo Ren or General Hux?

@@JamesNerdMan85 Disney caved to StarWars’ frankly annoying fan base

@@cantthinkofaname5046 Disney caved to everyone but really, they hate everyone. They’re jealous that George Lucas made an amazing story and now Disney’s destroying it. I see through the cracks.

The movie is all bad, what is good about this movie?

@@redjaygaming9757 did you watch the video?

@@redjaygaming9757 you are a physical manifestation of the angry Star Wars nerd this guy talks about lmfao

@@redjaygaming9757 there are some good things in this movie. They are heavily outweighed by the bad. Mostly the bad storytelling.

Lol it's not equal parts bad. The majority of it is bad.

Random Person On The Internet agreed dude, I feel betrayed

Random Person On The Internet Give me my pansexual Gonk foot fetish PG hentai Rian!!!

Finally! A man with standards!

now, this is an opinion i can get behind.

I Have Potato Aim I know I loved him so much, forget about Darth Vader or Han or Luke, Rey would’ve been twice as better if she was the daughter of Jar Jar Binks

Part of me is still hoping that Jar-Jar will be revealed to be Snoke’s master in the next movie

Slippery Quark That would redeem this trilogy and make it the best Star Wars saga ever and I want Jar Jar to be the main villain not Palpatine

Jar Jar is the key to all of this

Hewkii Jar Jar caused order 66 and is right now coming up with order 67

Even though it makes absolutely no sense, and destroys the concept of hyperdrive.

@@gavinmccormick3658 its a child’s sci-fi fantasy movie pal.Trying to find logic behind it is stupid.Grow up

@@OptimusDelta, but why was it not used in previous space battles in the original and prequel trilogy?

@@OptimusDelta For kids or not, if you are making a piece of fiction in a pre-existing setting, it is important to respect the established rules of that setting. Bending and modifying the rules has been the rule for the Star Wars EU for 40 years, but when the rules are completely broken, fans will take issue. Just because its about space wizards doesn't mean it doesn't have a set of internally consistent rules.

@@joeyjerry1586 because kamikadze is generally bad idea and was played as last dramatic chance? You don't need confirmation in other movies that ramming fast into things breaks them.

I completely agree. Movies beautiful. I will never deny that. Movies still fucking terrible.

With Disney bucks you can't expect any less.

@@ArchierounD I wouldn’t say money can buy great cinematography.

Lol so are so many other CGI slogfests… that means nothing

Definitely. Visuals are but half the battle of film making however. It could be beautiful but if the characters and plot are bad then it overall failed as a film.

Ajaws2414 “you aren’t a real Star Wars fan like me”

@@milesdean8802 oh god I hate that one.

Well it's fine if you like it bit it's objEctIvely baD

@@basedchimera5859 Holy crap, you gave me PTSD

@@Icybubba can't wait for the EFAP commentary of this comment section

Ruben Colon oh Kung Fu Panda is a total masterpiece and I adore it but Oogway’s death always kind of cracked me up for some reason and I can’t really place why. Maybe it’s reminiscent of the whole “My job here is done” “But you didn’t do anything” *leaves*

@@ThatCyndi the reason why Oogway had to go was because if he didn't then he would've stopped Tai Lung which would've meant that Shifu never learned from his mistakes and Po would never have become the Dragon Warrior.

God dammit not going to be able to watch that scene with a straight face anymore

CyndiMi well congrats for ruining one of my favorite death scenes of all time

Wasnt as well done as Kung Fu Panda tho

I agree. Relying too much on flashbacks is not necessarily great storytelling, but give us something at least... to me the continuity between the Empire era and this new era is just ... underwhelming. The trajectory of the New Republic, Luke's attempt at rebuilding the Jedi, the rise of Snoke. It seems like a whole lot happened in the intervening years, but somehow we end up with a status quo that is very similar to the Empire era. We wouldn't need much, mind. I personally don't necessarily have to know who Snoke is, just something that tells me the stakes. I want to know what was lost/ can be lost, and what can be regained/must be defended. In a new hope we only really learn that there used to a republic, in a more civilised galaxy, and then a big war in which much was lost. That's pretty much it. However, Obi-wan perfectly embodies the kind of elegance and "magic" that was lost. Same with the Empire. We really don't need to know where the Emperor came from or how the Republic fell, because we can extrapolate from the workings, the aesthetics and representatives of the Empire we see in the films. It's a military dictatorship and that's a concept we recognise. The new movies go for the same kind of stakes, with a new version of a military dictatorship, but it's clearly a watered-down version. It's no longer a galactic empire, its aesthetics have lost their novelty and its representatives seem to be mimicking the characters in a New Hope in almost every way. Nice bit of circular symmetry, but it rather undermines the stakes. Ironically, it's the cantina scene in the Last Jedi where Ryan Johnson tries to reinforce and reframe the stakes of the new movies, showing us corruption and oppression and suggesting there is a different kind of galaxy (more civilised perhaps?) worth fighting for. The reason this feels a bit out of place is not because it's political, but because it's unclear how it fits in the conventional republic vs empire framework. We don't automatically associate the visuals of exploitative capitalism with the Empire (even though it's a fundamental part of imperialism). We probably associate it more with contemporary liberal democracies (which is what the republic is supposed to be). At the very least, the new republic has not been able to do anything about the corruption and oppression we see. Which brings us back to continuity. It would have been great if we got to see version of Luke fighting against oppression (freeing slaves with lightsaber in hand for example), got to see Leia trying to build a better kind of galactic government, before it all went wrong. Crucially, I don't think it should ever have been Snoke that was the reason (even though Leia suggests as much to Han). It's fine if Snoke was only ever a symptom of the kind of potential for evil that exists in all human endeavours, whether it be governments or jedi orders. Again, the point is not that we need to know more about Snoke. The point of getting a glimpse of what went wrong after the Empire's defeat is to help us understand the stakes.

This! I hated last Jedi when it came out, when it was pointed out to me my main complaints were that Luke wasn't behaving like he would have in his 40s... I watched TLJ with "fresh eyes" after that, and liked it much more.

Arthur Guilherme yea but this way is more interesting in my opinion

Arthur Guilherme I feel you, but Luke ran away because he was scared to make any more mistakes and so nobody could turn out like him, making more mistakes.

@Arthur Guilherme Luke regretted trying to kill Ben. Luke thought that if he would try to help, he would just makes things worse. He tried to get rid of the problem by killing Ben (which he realized was the biggest mistake), and it led to Kylo Ren’s rise, making the galaxy suffer.

Arthur Guilherme ok, so what’s the alternative here, because what else is he supposed to do at the island, cause JJ is the one who made Luke hiding on a rock?

@Arthur Guilherme Yoda told Luke not to rush and yet he did. He paid the price for it by losing his hand. At that time, the consequences aren’t really that huge (since you can get a replacement). Thirty years later, he rushed into ending the Sith or something, and this time, the consequences are huge. He is partially or even mainly the reason why Ben turned to the Dark side. In the end, Yoda teaches him a lesson, to learn from his mistakes and do something about it. He faced Kylo Ren, giving Resistance enough time to escape and to teach Ben a lesson. Kylo Ren was rushing to kill Luke while Luke was patient, learning from his mistake of rushing.

Wait a minute...What if it was the purpose of this movie after all?? A movie that is both good and bad. The balance of the force show by this movie. (JK dude, I just saw your comment and I couldn't help it.)

PIN THIS.

The herobrine mace windu wasn’t the chosen one...

Elias Greer lol

And the Rotten Tomato score agrees

Ellie Lovegood that’s so true

Agreed

Yea what the heck fans. Look i get it you didn't like the character and honestly i didn't like the character that much either. But to take it to the real world and shun the actress that's just uncalled for.

Nacho Pi Gaming also I’m pretty sure people sent her death threats which is also really bad

@@ellielovegood6307 That's even it's worse. To somewhat quote the hockey player; It's only movie why do you have to be mad.

Me too , her being a palpatine felt dumb to me because heroes can come from anywhere, they don’t have to be always related to known characters , that part of the heroes journey ( in my opinion) , in the mandelorian, we don’t know who the child is related to and I’m ok with that , same as other people, but people wanted wanted Rey to be related because they wanted an explanation to why Rey is a Mary Sue ( which I don’t believe Rey is a Mary Sue because , the reasons to what she dose are explained in the movies) and now we’re stuck with Rey Palpatine,

@@ateam6671 actually you can believe she isnt but she fits the text book definition of one

@@CynicallyObnoxious That’s why I exist 😎

@@TheFemaleTitan yea but you got your ass handed to you many of times tho

@@TheFemaleTitan Ahsoka isn't a Mary Sue though because she wasn't perfect at first, but got great character development later on.

Not telling Poe the plan was logical since he had already proven he couldn't be trusted to follow orders. Poe should have been pushed out of an airlock after the first scene.

@@inspectorwinship9538 How exactly is not telling the guy who prioritises the safety of the resistance to the point where he defied orders to ensure they wouldn't all be annihilated by a big-fuck-off "fleet-killer" about your entirely reasonable plan to evacuate their guys to not-Hoth which requires him to do literally nothing but sit on board and chill, and instead act really fucking suspicious whilst giving him the impression you're leading everyone to their fiery deaths "logical"?

@@alexmelling5261 He was demoted so no longer part of command, and he had already gotten the entirety of the fleet destroyed by disobeying direct orders from his general in scene 1. I wouldn't trust him to lead a team in Fortnight after that. By running a shadow operation behind Leia's back, he lead the Emp...1st Order right into discovering the evacuation plan, getting more people needlessly killed. The mistrust was logical AND justified.

@@inspectorwinship9538 She was literally just saying "I have a plan. Trust me.", then killed herself in a shitty attempt to redeem her characrer. How is Poe in the wrong here.

@@jacko2244 He wasn't part of command anymore! He was demoted because he disobeyed orders, leading to every bomber, and most fighters, in the fleet being destroyed. He didn't need to know the plan, he was just supposed to follow his commanding officer's orders, which he'd already proven he was unwilling to do.

Dipping in water, and grabbing the edge = Swimming?

@@stormtraitor6545 is that what people call swimming? Dipping?

First Name Last Name sandswimming

@@Gentlemenpickleesq. twins

The Force

@midgetydeath I'd be interested in seeing a scientific poll on the subject. I'm one of the freaks that actually enjoys this new trilogy, and I've run into a lot more sequel fans than you have.

@@SuperScarface83 That is because both sides are only inside their bubbles (on the internet that is) IRL, the majority of fans liked it.

@@DragonStudioLPs i go out of my bubble (atleast on twitter) and ive seen a pretty big split. i do think its somewhere around 50-50 approval to disapproval but everyone wants their side to be right because then its like they won. i think the film is bad, but some people dont care about the faults and like it which is fine its just people who ignore the faults which annoy me a bit especially when they go round saying its a 10/10 masterpiece.

Writer's Block I have a serious question four you though what about the original trilogy and it’s faults or do you believe it has none.

@@kvhd5868 i dont believe anything doesnt have faults, the difference is that was a new property at the time it had no rules to go by so the faults that are there are minimal in comparison. the new trilogy does, it has to go by the established rules of the universe, if it didnt it would be a 1000% times better because it would all make sense. but its star wars therefore it has to go by those rules and it doesnt

I was so fucking disappointed when they revealed she was a Palpatine. I would be as disappointed if she was related to anybody else. I just love the idea that she was nobody and the thematic implications that carries. It kind of ruins that by making her a Palpatine.

Ted Under Six I’m kinda on the fence on if Marcus will like TROS. I think he will like it but you just never know lol

@@grandjimulus703 Oh he definitely isn't going to like it.

@@PayondeAwsome well, only one way to find out.

@General Kenobi I was actually completely on board with the end, but it would have been WAY more impactful if she was still a nobody making her way in the universe.

So people could send him blue milk through space Amazon.

Because JJA made TFA a little too convoluted

It’s cuz the map is to the first Jedi temple and people knew that’s where he went

Stevey Pizza He didn’t

He made the map just in case the galaxy was in deep danger so people could find him

Ik this was comment was a while ago, but ROS is the only Star Wars movie I don’t like and it ruined the good ideas TLJ had

Clone bodies boi

H.F. Bauer you fucker

@Adrock 99 Palpatine confirms in the beginning of TROS that he died that day. He came back. It's not clear why, but that's def palpatine

It’s his spirt, I think

This video aged like shit

Because the movie kinda of sucked? to a lot of people? we don't hate people that love the movie but we hate it.

@@mtado4933 hes talking about the series

Yann Dylan oops replied to the wrong comment. I love the Clone Wars

@@mtado4933 Restoration 100

Amen

I saw a hilarious edit (taken down by Disney now unfortunately) where they linked the ending of TFA with the beginning of TLJ. The Force theme swells and emotions run high.... then Luke says lol nah and the saga dies

:( I'm sorry to hear that my dude

Considering this dude has an Irish last name and only three countries, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria, have polio, it's safe to assume that was a joke. Probably to Mr Plinkett.

Very cool.

Graham Cavan Can't wait for the Mr. Plinkett review of this

lozoft9 You completely missed the reference.

I hope they somehow fix him in episode 9

I don’t think so. In TFA he discover the “who to fight for” with Rey and in this movie he discovers the “what to fight for” by going to the casino planet. He now believes he should do the right thing. He makes the decision to sacrifice himself, which is a heroic unselfish decision. But, since it was a fake out we can further explore Fin. But the fact he made that decision was enough to show where he’s at now, it doesn’t matter whether it worked or not.

ny_kia31 he didn’t die In that scene, he didn’t get wasted

I hate rose for stopping his heroic death

Same

IMA MARRY POPPINS Y'ALL

It's a bird! It's a plane!

Jacobie Brian who tf is laia

Alistair MacIsaac Rip my bad. Fixed it

As someone who really likes the film, yeah that looked goofy as fuck.

He didn't die offscreen, we see him get blown up on the bridge.

I'm surprised people feel anything about Akbar. He's pretty much just a meme and you can hold your breath through his entire trilogy screen time.

I feel like Holdo could have been replaced by Akbar if he survived but I really liked the movie.

JurzGarz out of focus.

Ackbar was actually an important part of the star wars trilogy

Well, see the difference there is that helicopter lightsabers look really frickin stupid

@@butterball8378 So it has to look stupid for you to be able to pick it apart? So the Holdo hyperspace Kamikaze is shielded from scrutiny because it looks cool? What’s the logic here?

@@jahadmii706 if you really want to get into it, lightsaber blades aren't solid like a helicopter blade. They are described as *light*sabers so there shouldn't be a way for them to achieve lift. It has also been said many times that going into lightspeed is very dangerous and since we don't have a set science for this, it isn't exactly unbelievable to say that crashing into another ship at lightspeed would destroy the ship it crashes into. Especially considering that crashing into another ship at all would damage it

@@butterball8378 bruh didn’t you listen to Cosmonaut, *_dOn’T pIcK aPaRt ShIt WiTh MaDe Up FaNtAsY fAcTs!1!_* Why are you doing that? Oh wait, I know it’s because you care, & deep down you know it matters for the story. Yeah I fully agree the spinning lightsabers are BS. I’m not trying to defend it in anyway. Same with the Holdo hyperspace Kamikaze. The existence of that maneuver destroys every space battle that has & ever will exist in the future of Star Wars. From now on we’ll be thinking, _”just do a Hyperspace Kamikaze.”_ I’m just making a point that Cosmonauts incredibly hypocritical, & has no consistency. He’s just one of those simple minded viewers that think, _”Well it didn’t bother me. So it must not really be a problem.”_ Even though it very well may be. That’s all I’m saying.

@@jahadmii706 The last film already explained it. Holdo just tried to run away, stealing the ship in the process, but stumbled upon one-in-a-million chance of destroying Snoke's ship.

and so do you lmao

@@BlackbirdRX says the guy who thinks TFA is the best Star Wars film lmao

@@JayJaycubbs notice i said FAVORITE, not BEST. you being a dumbass and not knowing the difference doesn't make you right

TRUTH! It was epic and I like it to this day.

The podracing scene felt like two hours of watching a camera pan from left to right over and over.

@@McSuperfly101 At least the pods could turn right! :D

The lonesome death of Ratts Tyerell, his death scream, and the "BLAURRRRGH" scream of that weird crocodile gleep-glop are in fact the peak of the prequels.

Hmm I think this is satire, but the comments are replying to it seriously, however that could be satire too. Am I being double woooshed?

Nick Paradies rogue one?

Bli Nk I think he refers to the force awakens

Irsan thanks, but that was a joke

Nick Paradies Star Wars Episode 8 is the most polarizing thing since thanos's finger snap thing.

@@Minx5892 no

Interesting list my best to worst would have to be 1. Star wars 2. Empire strikes back 3. Return of the jedi 4. Rise of Skywalker 5. Revenge of the sith 6. Force awakens 7. Solo 8. Last jedi 9. Rogue one 10. Phantom menace 12. Attack of the clones

@@bigkmoviesandgames Im glad you both recognise how good solo is, I think its just a fun simple movie, and idc what anyone says but attack of the clones has almost nothing good in it

@@EuanM20X I agree.while solo doesn't do anything completely epic or anything its still a well made film with a likable cast and good story.

Rots New Hope Empire Rouge one AOTC ROTJ SOLO Force Awakens Clone wars movie Last Jedi Phantom menace Force awakens ROS There all 10/10 btw

The typical average ranking when you look at everybody, seems to go: Empire Strikes Back A New Hope The Force Awakens Solo Rogue 1 Last Jedi Rise of Skywalker Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith Attack of the Clones The Phantom Meneace

Same

I thought it was a mixed bag with some shining moments and some mess ups as well. It wasn't consistently dull, I liked the hyperspace ram from an audio visual perspective as well as the effects. They messed up with the writing though. 6.2/10 Not the worst movie ever but it sure could've been better. PS: Am I the only one who thinks that the Leia Poppins scene couldn't be improved, seriously guys, can you really make her use the force to get her back to her ship without making it look absurd? I think not

Your all obviously a new fan s, and your opinion doesn’t make the movie good. It’s slow and boring and if you like slow and boring movies your opinion doesn’t count. This movie lets you be excited for 2 secs and kills the hype with BS WRITING.Y’all have bad taste buds you 💩 eaters.

@@swaves Knew it cause of the emoji usage.

Totally. It’s not like the whole movie could’ve ended by simply sending the thousands of TIE fighters TFO had at their disposal to destroy their largest threat.

I also disagreed with his point about the hyperspace kamikaze. It pretty much invalidates every space battle fought anywhere in any SW movie, and is probably the single biggest plot hole in TLJ. Think about it. A single ship with a single crewman (or droid) can destroy a whole fleet by hyperspace suicide. This should be the prominent tactic of the smaller force in any space battle.

Star Wars fan opinion is so varied. Because the hyperspace jump scene was astounding.

Antoine luke is a lot of things to a lot of people... but vader is his dad..of course hes gonna try to bring him back to the light. also he was much younger and full of hope...its kinda like how yoda deeply believed in the jedi way, but then gave up on it and went into exile because of his overwhelming guilt and getting so many jedi killed.... luke made a mistake and felt guilty just like yoda. he inspired kylo to kill all his students he helped kylo turn to the dark. just like yoda and the other masters help push anikin into darkness. its really good writing tbh. it fits in the lore i think its pretty rational. btw Antonie i love your videos! they are dope af

@thatguy i also thought about that!! ...thats not really a problem with the movie more a funny plot hole of star wars in general...i mean there is no reason to fight like WWII jets in space lmao. why do they have wings? hahahah also gun systems would be fired from much much much futher away...thats hella funny

Too be fair, compare Yoda from Prequals and OT and you see that Luke went the same way. You look at Luke seeing the GOOD in Vader and believing in him, but in Kylo he was seeing the DARK and had no idea how to handel it. After that, he blamed himself for letting his SISTERS son become evil while also be responsible for everything that happened. That kind of stuff will destroy even the strongest person.

Yeah i too hate the porgs. They are basically Star Wars merchandise driven character times one million. I even dare say that they are worse than Ewoks.

TrolleyXLakers - Club Shay Shay manager probably be a better situation then they are in right now

Porgs are cute

@@kinolokki5953 it’s not that porgs arnt cute, it’s the fact that they are used solely as a marketing ploy and nothing else. They are shoved in every available second on screen just to make kids go “ooo I want one”

@@thepriorstone4064 So I read that you like rey being nobody and thought you'd like this, it's my perfectly resonable headcannon that palpatine lied to rey about her heritage. He's evil, he lies, he knows how to manipulate people cos he can basically read minds, he knows rey is desperate for family so it's pretty fair to say this is something he would do. That's my theory, I love rey being a nobody, and honestly it kinda makes more sense that shes "all the jedi" if the force chose her to defeat palpatine.

The plot he came up with horrible and destroyed every plot point from TFA. You can't say that's "freeing the next generation" when you destroy Luke Skywalker and troll the audience for being invested in the story with useless plot twists that make no sense

@@proaaron578 In that case let's say that failure is the greatest teacher. Even the greatest masters can fail, and learn from it. I'm sure I've got this message from a movie.

@@proaaron578 Did you want Luke to just sit down and train Rey? That would be so damn boring.

Too bad you can do so without taking a dump on past heroes, aspect which Ryan Johnson didn't bother to take into account. Mandalorian and Andor showcased Star Wars could go elsewhere, without being insulting mess which is The Last Jedi.

@@generalgrievous6498Yeah they definitely couldn’t have used the time they had spent making Luke out to be Ebenezer Scrooge for something like character development for a villain that could be remembered no no no no that’s ridiculous run every hero we’ve known into the ground and dumb some dirt on it too. Let’s kill off the one main antagonist we had so that the next director can just scramble and ruin everything right

James Fitzpatrick no

MINIMOOSE yes

Nah, the best one would be the one in MY head

Same story for everyone

Wrong, it's actually A New Hope.

But, it's still awesome!

Lol

Yes, it did actually, you are wrong. The point still stands and the reveal of Palpatine's daughter was abysmal in the way it was carried out.

@@pleasesubscribetomynewyout5330 The fact she is Palpatine's *granddaughter* (as I'm pretty sure you meant) would be abysmal in any way it could have been carried out.

@@garrisoncox724 it still makes no sense to me that jj felt like he had to undo the previous movie with that shit

Snoke is darth maul confirmed.

Lol

Actually it is. The fanbase is split because of Kylo Ren, as they can't decide if he's a good character or not.

L. J. Love your comment😩😩

Ha!

i'm afraid rey will be quite important when i arrive.

Ray

And any regard for plot at all.

It was a big theme of Luke’s in the Old EU. This isn’t new to Star Wars, just the films.

@Kryptoskillet exactly the point, EU Luke is the Luke that the galaxy thinks he is, not the real guy.

@@cantthinkofaname5046 And which is terrible point, as it ignores that real Luke was far closer to that, than whatever it was in TLJ.

Luke told rey he had “sensed his darkness” and “seen it in moments in his training” i think that’s enough motivation for him to look into his mind. Also he didn’t walk into Bens hut with the intent of killing him.

No shit considering the amount of bs movies the fanbase has been served

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Actively refuted by this video

You mean: "The only people in the world who hate Disney's Star Wars are people who love Star Wars. "

​@redwill17 Let's put it this way: You tell me, a waiter at your favorite restaurant, to get you your favorite food dish on the menu. I then give it to you, but it is undercooked, raw, is missing ingredients, and I basically toss the plate in front of you. You then complain that it's not a good one, but I then reply to that with "But it's your favorite. Wow, the only ones who love this dish are the ones who hate it and complain about it all the time." People who complain about star wars are fans who want to see GOOD star wars movies. We criticize it because we have high standards of what we like. We don't want crappy movies in which logic and reason is sidelined for spectacle. If I have a favorite movie franchise and it makes a crappy movie, I'll complain because I expected better from a franchise I love.

WHAT

Well compared to the Star Wars universe as a whole.... yeah I have to agree with your friend

Welcome to the Star Wars fandom

Najwin Najib it's not like they ruined the previous films or no longer made em canon kinda sounded like a sjw overreadting really

Najwan Najib exactly it's already happened!I get your point but a lot of people don't even consider the sequels canon simple as that and it's not like they went back in time to make the originals non canon

I can agree as long as we forget about a certain one

It's the prequel cycle all over again

@@milzz8844 It also happened to empire

Lets just pretent that star wars ended after the clone wars came out. Rebels is optional. But all this never happend

Fact

There is NO sequel trilogy.

Gordon IWK I’ll accept Rogue One, that’s it.

These aren`t the stars movies you are looking for

The fuck you mean no proof? The hate was all over her instagram page after the movie released.

so, basically, this is the second time she received vitriol?

Ahmed Best was nearly driven to suicide with death threats and Jake Llyod was bullied into literal insanity. Neither the media or any of you Prequel haters spoke out on their behalf.

The last of us fans will Kill you if you don’t say the last of us is the greatest games

oh yeah, and lets not forget about the REYLO FANS who harrassed Adam Driver and sent death threats to JJ Abrams, cast members and other producers of Rise of Skywalker. But no, lets just bitch about the evil racist Nazi TLJ haters. Fucking hell.

Hey, why DID kylo Ren turn to the dark side anyway. Dude got his friends together and killed all the other students

It’s doing that though. It hasn’t broken any rules.

Yeah, sure it hasn't. Like when both sides of the Force have to suddenly balance each other out, when in the Prequels it was established that the Jedi and the Light Side are serenity, so the Sith have to be destroyed due to the fact that the Dark Side feeds on pain and emotion.

Didn't the Prequels introduce the concept of balancing the force in the first place though?

Bent7793 yes by destroying the Sith, that's why Obi says to Anakin "you were supposed to destroy the Sith not join them!" Balance was wiping out evil.

Brandon Patterson the true meaning of bringing balance to the Force was never established. In the AOTC novelization it specifically states that even the Jedi themselves aren't entirely sure what it means.

Proved his point? Lol

@@revimfadli4666how did it prove his point?

@@revimfadli4666Lol

​@@jw1714because rise of Skywalker is the worst star wars movie ever and reys father or grandfather... Really???

​@@jw1714because it did suck, he was literally right.

I liked the jokes, and maybe some people need to stop taking the movie so seriously? Just sayin'.

Am I the only one barely remembering there being so many jokes? I remember the force tickle and the porg creatures being a joke in themselves

Michael Ferrigno I feel like you’re right, but as I wrote that out I remembered the Jedi nuns and ray desotrying everything, and most of the things bb8 did like the coin attack and piloting the walker even tho they had purpose I guess it was still funny

The quips were a bit much. I loved the visual jokes much more as those were easier ways to ease the tension naturally. However, the dialogue jokes this time around oddly enough felt far more natural than it did in TFA.

too many jokes? there much less "jokes" than usual and some moments were organicly, naturally funny. not like overtrying to be funny

Is mgs dumb tho?

Yes but actually no It’s still really amazing tho

Lior Burstein it’s really stupid but cool and occasionally deep at the same time

Loone 3 Pretty accurate

@@liorbur dumb as in campy and absurdly epic. Yes.

Christian Amato Lol. Take your upvote with pride sir.

Christian Amato I honestly think Rian is a bitter Trekkie.

I prefer Battle Star Galactica: Razor

KHAAAAAAAAAN

Knowledge is knowing that Galaxy Quest is not a Star Trek movie. Wisdom is knowing that Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek movie.

I think you are correct. And it's sad because TROS could have simultaneously been really huge with all the lines that 7 and 8 set up. But in an effort to piss off the least amount of people, they made it profoundly mediocre, and IMO, the worst (I still liked it, mind you!) film of the saga.

@@Sohbek agreed I take good story over overChorography fight

No, the reason why rise of skywalker is the way it is. Is because tlj cuts down basically any plot lines and ruins most characters. This is why "somehow palpatine has returned" with absolutely 0 build up

@@notdot8742 I don't think so, the Rise of Shitwalker was the worst in the series. there is no excuse as to why its so bad.

@@notdot8742 It’s TROS’s fault. I love TLJ and seeing the plot threads of this film get erased because some people got mad is a coward move. Rey should have been a nobody. Luke’s arc was compelling. Luke’s death was perfect, and Palpatine should have never shown up in this trilogy.

@General Kenobi im your biggest fan general Kenobi. Could you say " Hello there " for me

@General Kenobi thank you general Kenobi

@General Kenobi Rey being Palpatine's daughter actually doesn't explain her other abilities, just why she's so strong in the force. It does makes a lot of sense narratively regarding her connection to Kylo since they're both grandchildren to the OG Sith duo. PLUs, the theme of identity not mattering still applies since Rey realizes that she's not destined to her bloodline, she can choose the one that's been her true family

@@ShaunFish Ah yes, through Identity theft?

Because its shit and they wrote it shitty because they are babies copping out and using memberberries.

The sequel trilogy is terrible for a reason, i blame the directors for making a rey a mary sue ultimately ruined the sequel trilogy.

@@redjaygaming9757 all Star Wars protagonists are good at stuff, and at least they gave a reason for her talents

@@redjaygaming9757 bruh people need to stop using Mary Sue as a way to say bad character. Rey’s character arc is absent making her poorly written but she isn’t a Mary Sue.

The Last Jedi was made for Disney fans, not for Star Wars fans. That's it.

@@guruxara7994 no

Darth Lily DUDE EXACTLY

imagine that being set up, but they didn't it comes off clunky

I like this perspective. It sheds even more light on Luke and offers considerations that flew by too fast for me to consider in detail.

jiin6 It's all implied, but Luke legit calls out how the Jedi Council failed to snuff out Darth Sidious before he grew to destroy the Jedi, because of their hubris and arrogance. It's implied that Luke knows that the Jedi are the architects of their own destruction through the rise of Sidious and Anakin's fall.

EXACTLY! In order to appreciate TLJ, one must appreciate the prequels in how they portrayed the Jedi as arrogant Elitists that failed to see the threat in front of them.

Yup

I disagree with all of his opinions, but I don't respect them

lolli pop Thats sad. You should respect them, it’s an opinion. Ew, what am I actually trying? The Star Wars Fanbase is toxic ass

@@Ali-vr2dj I'm not even a star wars fan, this is the only star wars movie I have seen. My question is this: why the fuck should I respect opinions? I respect people who earned respect, not fucking opinions.

@@fatmanjstyle5306 what does that have to do with anything?

@@fatmanjstyle5306 I actually didn't like it, it was kind of stupid. I just generally don't believe in respecting opinions.

Yeah like what Star Wars movie has kids getting murdered

*looks over uncomfortably at The Phantom Menace*

Me: *Points to Empire Strikes Back* The movie has the Empire flat out win.

luke attempts to murder the padawan ben

I think he meant expectations, not a giant waste of time to detail one asshole’s rise to power.

Holy shit this is the best ranking I've ever seen

i would have to disagree on your ranking but wtv

I’d put ROS a bit lower but otherwise that’s pretty much perfect

Rogue One was trash, except the ending, and The Last Jedi was garbage. End of story 😊.

Wrong.

DA VIEWZ Why do you have this opinion???

DA VIEWZ collaborate then.

Neo-Nuclearcrazed I second this for no particular reason.

Mark Hamill also said in the same interview that he was entirely willing to be proven wrong/change his mind about the direction Rian took his character. Mark was similarly weary about Luke's portrayal in TFW, but now loves how it turned out.

Except he is fine with it now

He was disappointed that Luke and Han never got a scene together in TFA he said it was a great opportunity missed and it was.

He didn't say he was upset about the portrayal but that he dissagreed with the direction, he even said that after he let rian johnson know that he disargreed he then told the director that since he got it off his chest he will portray the character as asked. He recognized and accepted that he had no control, he vented and then moved on.

Cheeseycurve 54, in cinema, they're not entirely different. Some of the best 'writing' for many characters was never actually written. For example; YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. That was the actor, not the writer. "Here's looking at you, kid". Came from the actor off-stage. "Heeeeeeere's Johnny" is another improv from the actor. Same with "You talkin' to me?". Indiana Jones shooting the Swordsman was also Harrison Ford's suggestion. Originally he was going to actually fight with him. The final lines of Roy in Blade Runner were also improvised. Hannibal's hissing in Silence of the Lambs was improvised. The Joker clapping slowly and menacingly during Gordon's promotion in The Dark Knight Rises was also improvised. As was his pause while walking away from the hospital before it explodes. "Game over man" in Aliens was also ad libbed. I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. Writers aren't the be-all-end-all of characters, and quite often the actors know the characters better than the writers. This is because actors have to get to intimately know the characters they portray, in order to actually portray them. Its hard to act as someone you don't understand, so they understand them. Writers often briefly think of the characters sporadically during writing. This isn't to say they don't think about the characters, but they've got to consider all the other characters as well, and the scenes the director wants in the movie, and the themes, and the plot as a whole, and a million other things. For Hamil, who has lived knowing Luke Skywalker for many decades, and was told who the character is by his creator - George Lucas - I trust his judgement of who the character is far more than I trust a new writer brought on to write a movie that decides to change Luke's character to better fit the themes he wants in his movie. And Hamil was right. Johnson fundamentally didn't understand, or didn't care for, Luke's character. He had a different story he wanted to tell. Unfortunately for him, a lot of fans DO care about Luke's character, and DON'T care about what Johnson was trying to do with the movie. You picked Star Wars, you do Star Wars. Do the reinventing with a new IP and/or character.

Luke Goodman That scene should have been scrapped.

That’s nitpicking. If something like that is the worst part, then the movie is essentially a masterpiece.

No matter how much i like that movie, that scene will always be stupid

The idea of the scene is great, it should've been executed with much more gentle movements to make it not look weird. I still like it though.

I gotta admit my eyebrow was raised and my jaw started opening as that scene played out. I was shocked. But it was fucking great. It was surprising and made the force exciting again. We had been getting hints that Leia was force sensitive. Plus she is a skywalker so it's not like it came out of nowhere.

I feel this way about a lot of his videos. I always come back for more though.

explain yourself

“You’re a mad star wars fan” is not invalid. If anything it’s more valid. Thinking that Luke’s change of character was a good idea is enough to let me know that this guy doesn’t care about star wars. Not even Mark Hamill liked it

I disliked this film because Fin sacrificing himself would have been a great conclusion but narratively his character arc would go nowhere. I agree with cosmo on that. So it frustrates me that we got what we got. Its like the writers wrote themselves into a corner

@@daoyang223 Well, they really did. And to be honest their attempt at grey morality is much worse than the Imperial Remnant story arc they de-canonized to build the Sequels in the first place. Not only that, but the First Order is by this point so unthreatening and meatheaded in their endeavors that they make Palpatine look like a military genius.

nah

That was a dramatic change for Luke. This is the guy who was trying to talk Vader, an extremely ruthless, evil man responsible for slaughtering anyone who slightly inconvenienced him, into returning to the light side because of his faith in his own father. You really think he'd just change that optimism and try to kill his own nephew instead of trying to help him?

it's not that luke changed: it's that they treated his change like a fucking joke for a big chunk of the movie, they played the grumpy old man angle so hard i felt really alienated by it, and all it took was throwing a lightsaber in an attempt at comedic timing, and the milking scene it adds up, and gets annoying as hell

+Raymondo Captures my feelings entirely.

I'd probably personally put TFA above TLJ by just a tiny bit, but that may be because they correctly manipulated my nostalgia feels. Actually probably the same reason A New Hope is equal 1st for me, because holy shit that's the one I rewatched as a kid over and over and over. But yeah, mostly agree with these assessments, especially with the bottom two :P Anyone who says TLJ is the worst star wars films needs a serious sit down and talking to. If nothing else, the set designs and cinematography were on fucking point, where as PM and AofC don't even have that going for them thanks to perma green screens.

Call me a monster, but I would personally move A New Hope beneath The Last Jedi. I love the new take on a Star Wars narrative, and A New Hope, to me, feels like a really cliché story, even though the movie came out before there was a cliché.

A New Hope is honestly a bit tedious to watch these days, especially the first half. Perhaps I've seen it too many times? But Empire never fails to keep me gripped.

Raymondo I agree 100%

What's your first?

"Return of the Jedi", the moment that Palpatine decides to destroy Luke when he realizes how incorruptible he is. Luke is in an intense amount of pain, pleading with his father to help him. Even without an expression on Vader's mask, you can see the decades of anguish over the death of his mother and Padmé, and watching his own child before him. At that moment, Vader dies and Anakin is reborn. And his last truly heroic moment is to save his son and destroy the ultimate evil who had manipulated him into ruining countless lives across the galaxy. It's not just the most satisfying villain death in cinema, but even contextualizes and improves upon the prequels and gives Vader the most complete arc in the entire series.

Bram R that's exactly how I feel everytime i heard those argument.

Because of the gap of time between ep 6 and ep 7, I can assume Snoke's rise to power was long and complicated. I didn't care to see it. I cared that he seduced Ben to the dark side and that his death furthered Kylo's story.I guess its the time gap that makes me not care. If there was a different emperor in ep 6 than Palpatine, I'd be really confused and want answers. If that makes sense.

I agree. I imagine we'll get some information on Snoke's backstory from Kylo ruminating in the next film, or perhaps he will come back as a sassy force ghost that will exposit on his backstory and torment his killer a bit. However, I do agree, it's not the most satisfying way it could have happened. That being said, I also really appreciate how he was killed off, both for just how shocking a twist it was, but also because we see him be genuinely outwitted by Kylo.

Ye boi. I LOVED the movie, and I completrly disagree on some key points made by people who disliked it (Rey's parents, Luke's "assholiness", Kylo's childish character), but Snoke is as ex-machina as it gets. To make things worse, he is just a typical, no, wait, he is THE typical fantasy villain, who is just overpowered bc writers said so and who just wants to infinitely rule everything for the sake of being EVIL YAAHRR (I mean, Kylo's line at the end where he offers Rey to rule the galaxy together made me bleed from the facepalm, but even that plays into Kylo's character as an infantile wannabe cool guy who hasn't came up with his own view of the world yet). Even tho the new trilogy has GREAT and very original characters (judging by the standards of modern mainstream action cinema, of course). And Snoke is just... Pure dissapointment. Hope the next episode will tell us at least something that will make sense.

Actualy the movie explains a little how the light and dark side of the force need eachother to exist as said by (i think) luke. Luke is strong on the light side and he is training a new order. Being this the case one can asume how snoke darkness came to balance lukes light. The same i think with Ben and Rey

Toon Trooper ikr just let it go come on like it or dislike either’s fine but just stop being a baby

They will never stop.

Im just sad how toxic the star wars community became

Toon Trooper Star Wars fans are whiny a holes period they are actually the definition of toxic

oh no, it's 2019, why do people still care about anything, why can't everyone be a nihilist like me