It’s all about the money. They are less concerned about safety.

E-bike task force what a joke.

They need to enforce the laws of the road and not make it harder on us who follow the laws

Lack of common sense kills people.

Task force for e-bikes? Why don’t they use that task force for criminals stealing bikes or stealing cars, shoplifting and committing crimes? What the hell is wrong with these people, there are much more significant problems and this ain’t one of them.😡😡😡

I'm pretty sure this whole thing about having to register and get a "license" to operate an ebike is just about money

Literally they are petitioning for control over them. I say this because I’m a motorcycle rider and have been since I was a child. It’s the careless drivers killing people not the bikes. I’ve been riding street for a few years now and have had 3 separate incidents where I would have been seriously injured by a driver had I not reacted. They aren’t kidding when they say ride like you are invisible when on 2 wheels, same goes for these e bikes. People will literally almost run you over, you honk, and they still never even see you there. There’s no accountability for the drivers of 4 wheeled vehicles and it’s taken out on bikes or motorcycles. Do Not! Vote for anything they are claiming is to protect you on your e-bike. It’s just so they can implement further regulation of them. Don’t fall for the trap.

Power and money. Through control. Thats all that ALL politicians care about

Instead of them lowering the prices on the products, for safety reason, they want to criminalize the public for trying to find a more affordable way

Nothing can ever be free in this country i swear lol.. You dont need a license on a Bicycle. You can do 20mph on a regular bike, whats the problem?

If they're going to limit the speed of my scooter then why don't they limit the speed of cars? The highest speed limits in the United States are 80 MPH which are in Texas and Utah. So, why do they allow cars on the road that can go over 200 MPH?

The power tester would arguably be a 4th and 5th Amendment violation much like how you are not required to comply with cops' orders to lower your window for a tint tester. In this case, the 5th applies because you have the right not to offer up incriminating evidence against yourself. The burden is on the cops to come up with the evidence against you. If they take the bike by force to perform the test, it becomes a violation of the 4th. Don't let them trample over your rights.

Americans are killing Hobbies . Now we can't ride on my day off , can't go out at night unless government has there hands in my pockets .

If we need license, they better make a bike that could go past 60 and could go for because we will have a license and legally be able to go fast

Anything that puts a smile on your face is taxed

Where do you take your car if it breaks down? The mechanic. Where do you take your e-bike? KZfaq. Because if you’re lucky enough to have a bike shop near you 99% won’t touch anything electric. They wonder why people are having problems.

It's bullshit, I originally bought an ebike because I was without a drivers license..it's all about money all the damn time..if people are being careless then take action appropriately!!!

How they going to ticket you not for how fast you where going, but by how fast you bike goes, can you imagine they doing that to cars

Wow man you're so right this is the new BMX this is the new generation it's like I would rather people go out and ride their bikes instead of being out and doing drugs some people need this to keep their mind off of other things

I started riding bicyies because cars and trucks are very expensive Tickets higher insurance People running into your car Checking the oil Ugh…then the electric cars…I still gotta register a electric car or truck I’ll ride bicycles til the day I die

Anything to generate income for these criminal states!!

No ebike laws please.i am a disabled vet.i need a ebike and I ride responsible with a helmet.

Here is my problem with this, what I build myself should not fall under blanket laws meant to protect Corporate America. Corporate America does not want competition from small companies and wants total control. Those in government have no idea or knowledge of what we are doing and should not be the final word on this. I am a large person, I am built like a Football lineman. I am 6 foot tall and weigh 320 lbs. I am of Swedish descent, we are not small people. Think Samoan people but from the far North. A 500 watt or even 750 watt E bike is useless to me. I have a disability and am building my own E bike to help me. I was in the Military and was injured in Desert storm. My left foot had all of the bones in it crushed, and my right knee was torn and dislocated. I spent years rehabilitating my self on a stationary bike and improved my walking. I can't run or jog. I have a heavy framed mountain bike that I started riding on flat trails and paths. When it comes to hills and the pressure on my knee , I just can't do it very long or sometimes at all. With the advent of E bike technology, I saw a ray of hope. I tried current commercial e-bike technology and it just isn't enough with the limitations placed on them. I decided to build my own. Because of my size and the weight of the bike I have to ride the bare minimum wattage to work needs to be around 2000 watts on a direct drive rear hub motor. Direct drive hub motors work the best for my situation. They are smoother, quieter and the power or torque comes on in a more gradual way and my pedaling cadence is not always smooth or consistent. In the hills I need to get up speed on a downhill to try and not slow down too much on an uphill. To be safe as a biker you need to kind of keep up with traffic flow in town on city streets to remain relatively safe. I need to be able to throttle up max power from a stop or on a hill to be able to move out from an intersection or at a crosswalk. I need to be able to customize the extra torque to assist me. Sometimes I just can't get back to my point of origin without straight throttle or non pedal assist because my knee just can't go anymore or I just can't physically get up and over a hill pedaling or walking. I need a system that can change with my needs and situations. Many times I am out away from town on a highway or county road and I need to go faster than 25 mph on the shoulder. It is dangerous to be traveling at 5 miles an hour up a hill on a highway with traffic when cars are going 65 miles an hour 2 or 3 feet from you. Reaction time for drivers next to you is less if they need to move over. Government should not be getting involved with electric bikes. Electric motorcycles running on streets at 65 or 70 miles an hour is different. Not everyone 1 is 140 pounds and 5 foot tall.

We're paying because of the wreckless Surron kids.

There are already laws on the books in CA to not use your cell phone when driving.

Under the Constitutional Due Process Right of the 14th Amendment we don't need to get a drivers license for anything regardless of whether its electric bike,moped, motorcycle,car,etc., As long as we're not carrying passengers of property for profit.See 18 U.S.C. 31(6)(10) and the US supreme Court's decision in Packard v.Banton,44 Sct.259(1923)

Vehicle inspections are not required in California for any type of vehicle.

They just want to make an excuse to make more regulations for ebike riders. More regulations means more money for the government. It all comes down to money

That’s why I prefer to use side walk on bike it’s legal here in FLorida. Car has to come on side walk to get hit

Just because you have incidents, don’t mean you need to laws

Anytime you introduce a new vehicle to roadways, unless you have created the infrastructure to support it, expect mishaps, it's the nature of the BEAST...

now they are trying to make ebike speed laws and ebike license laws too even though ebikes already follow moped and motorcycle laws. bunch of cash grabs is ll it is.

"stop driving cars! They pollute too much, we'll be taxing them more!". Ok I'll switch to an ebike. "How dare you find another form of transportation!" The furthest regulation id agree with is a boating license type deal. Multiple choice test, ok you're good for life, have fun. The whole test would just be to remind people to wear a helmet and act like everyone is trying to kill you. As for the batteries, require them to be certified. Cant imagine how repairing batteries could be so evil. Bad practices aside. Absolutely insane to make building batteries illegal. You can do a way better job than some random chinese company will do.

I'm over 50 y/o, about 300 lbs. I test rode a 750w and 1000w ebike uphill, and it doesn't have enough power to carry my big butt uphill. I test rode a 2000w ebike and it was able to carry me uphill at 11 mph. I hope they consider my weight when they test my ebike. I'm trying to ditch my suv and get into an ebike, for my health and my wallet. It is getting ridiculous to drive in Los Angeles with the high gas prices, insurance, and maintenance. They try to force us all into an EV, but I can't afford an EV because it is really expensive, now they are trying to stop us from getting an ebike. I am really getting fed up with the government incompetence.

I live in New York City and the people here driving their cars have no respect towards other drivers let alone people riding bikes. January 30, 2023 I was hit by a car while riding my bike by a lady driving a 4,000lbs SUV. I survived but only after spending over 3 months in the Hospital/Rehabilitation learning to do everything all over again. Instead of harassing people on bikes why don't they start by going after these reckless drivers not paying attention to the road.

While we are here you gotta wear bright colors when ridding

Making batteries is as bad as making moonshine in your garage..lol

I do understand bikers do need to stay with the flow of traffic, and your right, its always the drivers fault for not paying attention, and thats way before ebikes came out, i love how they wanna blame the bike rider

For all the LAESK8 guys that wanted to ride on side walks and pop wheelies on main roads, make pedestrians feel unsafe. Thank you guys for doing this to us.

its just another way for them to reach into our pockets. We assume all the risk being on an electric bike, fast or slow. Tax man sees a revenue stream, gotta capitalize!!

Mid October last year twice in an hour i was almost hit, ive got an Lectric Lite model, a 350 motor. I've added many multiples of lights and I wear a fluorescent vest 7:34

The traffic laws are enough ! But they need to be obeyed and inforced!

I have a heart problem where I can’t ride a regular pedal bike except on flat terrain at slow speeds. In a 1 car family the bike is quite often my only way to get around. I see other people with physical challenges on electric wheelchairs and they are not bothered at all I think if you can show that you have a valid reason to drive a bike . There are trails where I live that are posted no electric bicycles but on an adjacent walking path you see motorized wheelchairs all the time why are physically challenged bikers being treated unfairly

I’ve been riding bikes as soon as I could walk and ride almost every to work. Denver has pretty decent bike lanes and paths and even that didn’t save me from someone hitting me “in the bike lane”! There’s people behind the wheel that don’t pay attention. But rather than making it safer for people with protected bike lanes they rather put bans and make money for a small percent of people making issue

Dont vote on anything that restricts ebikes! These are the new BMX bikes for the younger generation.

I don't think fires are an issue as long as owners use standard equipment from the manufacturer, don't modify their bikes or batteries for more speed, and common sense. I'm not worried about my ANZA 750S erupting like a Volcano. I'm not surprised politicians want laws, and licencing for E-Bikes. They will target class-3 bikes like the ANZA 750S first to see what they can get away with.

I have delxia, I can't read or write that well. So it's gonna be hard for me to get my license for electric e. Bike, that's the only thing it has for me to get back for it. To work and medical appointments, it's like now they're hurt me now. I will be able to write a bike to get to work😢

They clearly do not want us to have a cheaper mode of transportation because they are losing too much money as people begin to switch to the electric bikes full term it is a loss of money not only for the companies but for the government as well which is why they're trying to enforce insurance and license at least I'm glad I live in a rural state where they don't really care

Powerful lithium is located in NJ so not subject to NYC juristication. And Your exactly right brother... Kids under 12 shouldn't on them. But any legislation will deter thousands. I really hope they did the right thing in the crack down. There's alot of places that build proper safe battery packs with fuses and lithium Iron Phosphate batteries like Powerful lithium. not the cheap Lithium-Ion type. Im glad they are finally cracking down on the cheap lithium batteries.

If it gets to the point in PA then I'm going to continue w/ my crazy 72v 20kw Electro and Co kit for my Razor MX650 w/ headlight, taillights and turn signals so I can get it registered as a "small displacement" aka 50cc moped category in the DMV so I can ride it around on the street without having to worry about it being illegal.... This is starting to get ridiculous. SMH Edit:This is also a great way to teach kids how to "drive" on the streets and could teach them road rules and stuff before being drivers/Bike riders.... Not a bad idea but it'll definitely be done badly. Edit 2: If it gets to a "Speed Limit" in PA then I'm gonna be running away from the police because I'm not losing my bike because of stupid rules they don't even understand.... *Uncertified* doesn't always mean it's dangerous, it could be a home-built battery designed without a BMS because it's intended for someones personal high-power scooter/bike. I've seen my fair share of Uncertified batteries on KZfaq that are better than certified ones and I'd probably buy one of them before I bought a "certified" one from China... SMH

More money for the state to get and we get punished for using our bikes ,as you said ..for commuting .

In Europe the laws are 250 watt max and 36 volt battery. Max speed 15.5 mph. Anything over that is classed as a moped or motorbike and can't use bike lanes and must be insured etc. Must be at least 14 years old. The rating must be displayed on the equipment. In the USA the laws have allowed for much more powerful motors hence the current debate.

What about e-bikes that can "shift" between power classes? I keep mine in class 2 mode to stay lawful but have the option to switch from 1-3 class with a full tilt option. So if I'm just coasting along (in the proper class) and then get stopped by an officer, do I get ticketed just because I have the option to go faster? If that's the case maybe others with cars should be getting fined for having a Tesla (or the like) for having the ungodly amount of power they have... seeing also the amount of electric cars batteries that have spontaneously caught fire as well.

This is the same thing they said about pot and pot smoking. How did that work out!

Waaaaaa. Its out of control. Its dangerous, causing chaos & injury. Reform is past due.

I ride a E scooter (Jetson Bolt - love my Bolt) do these count? I have had problems with car drivers almost running me over . When I ride I treat it like a car - stop at stop signs and yeild to traffic. Never trust drivers - even if they yeild to you - I pull over and stop and let them go I am too slow anyway. In my area people drive way too fast they need to consider that too.

They are tearing up local parks and golf courses, destroying the grass on those chinese kids toys.

This is what happens when idiots have ruined a good thing. Something happens and it will always be a knee jerk movement by the government. I say: 1. Have safety courses for school children that ride them and that includes the adults. 2. Wearing of safety gear for ebikes & bicycles. 3: Since there are bike lanes and paths. Make it better. 4. Ensure that Ebike riders and bicycle riders conform to the laws such as with motorcycles. 5. Ensure that cars and other vehicles also conform to road laws and stay in their lanes and if they don’t. A very harsh punishment has to be imposed, prison time for vehicle drivers that are perpetrators to the fact. Why, I say that cuz I have seen many many vehicle drivers are on their cell phones & that includes drunk drivers.

I've downhill an inline skates and longboard @40-45mph. Will I need to register my skates in the future too? Crazy!!😮

I saw this coming! but people like "Surronster" who seems to promote doing wheelies/and other stunts on the public streets and receiving "high 5's" from kids are worrisome. They are making E-bikes as fast as some motorcycles, I have one enduro-looking one coming at the end of the month, but I have always followed speed and traffic laws and never had any problems. As far as battery problems, stay with the name brands, use the charger it came with, learn the temperatures operating, and storage parameters of the battery, and remember when they expire. I have been in the EV space for over 5 years now and have never had one problem. ( I have seen some footage of shops that keep scooters and batteries plugged in when they are green, that is a NO, NO!!)

Any so-called State law would violate that!

Wait, why wouldnt a legit electric repair shop not be able to build their own batteries if theyre doing it right and using new cells to build completely new Battery Packs..?

They're always will be a way to beat their machine... I'm just looking at it now and don't know exactly what it does but I have a couple ideas already on beating it😅

I feel like police should have better things to do😂😂😂

I’ve a bike that with controller modifications if run in PAS5 will go almost 40mph. In PAS1 it will only go 20mph. It’s stickered as a Class-2 bike. I am courteous to others when I ride it. I notice many who are not and that is the problem. LE should enforce laws against reckless operation. The bikes ability for speed should not be a determining factor. There are times when in traffic on a road where there are no bike lanes that the ability to blend into traffic is safer than going slower. IMHO we get too specific with laws. Hands free phone operation while driving for instance… how many times do you see people with the phone on speaker holding the phone a couple of feet from their mouth “with their hand” while driving. That’s not hands free! Reckless operation should be the determining factor. If charged, that isn’t good on your record and insurance rates go up. Reckless Operation laws should extend to everyone on the road and bike paths. That will solve the problem.

As a Dutch person, we now see a lot of "fatbikes", which people like to pretend are Electric bicycles but which really are Electric mopeds. But they're often driven by minors, always without helmet, no licence, no insurance, no registration plate. A 13 year old shouldn't ride a vehicle that can go 50 or even 70 km/h. WITHOUT A HELMET. There's crashes with them ALL the time.

Storing more than 5 batteries !! What the Hell !!.

I knew this was coming, that's why I choosed LFP chemistry...

They just said it on the news clip, the drivers don’t believe they have to share the roads, it’s not a biker’s fault if a car isn’t paying attention to the roads

When drivers switch to ebikes insurance companies lose market share.

I've seen videos where e bikes caught fire, but never an explosion. Where are all the videos of all these dangerous explosive bikes? So many, it's never made the news 😂😂

Safety is a fair concern! But let’s be clear it’s about the insurance companies not wanting to kick out any monies to cover potential lawsuits so therefore they pay their lobbyists to get to our politicians to institute these draconian policies instead of focusing on the crime rate educational funding healthy after school programs for the youth. When you investigate a crime/or political motivation all you need to do is follow the money🤔

This is why I bought a hyper scooter no rules

A lot of this could be solved with states actually investing in bike/pedestrian infrastructure. Angelenos, vote YES on HLA

Look up Germany ebike restrictions on KZfaq shows the police using ebikes and stopping every ebike to check there not de restricted! If they are your walking home they call a van to come collect it

If you work doing deliveries you need to register your name and info and serial number in case of accident or robbery or they steal it , in NY some people don't register those ebikes that look like vespas or dirt bikes those usually are more than 750 watts and have no pedals , an real ebike has pedal assist..but if it looks like a moped or motorbike is not an ebike or electric bicycle

Taxed to death, they gotta make money off everything we do, everything !!!

THE TRAFFIC LAWS ARE ALREADY GOOD ENOUGH FOR EBIKES! i ALWAYHS OBEY ALL TRAFFIC LAWS ON MY EBIKE! AS A STROKE SURVIVOR EBIKES ARER MY ONLY OPTION FOR BICYCLING!

😮 you got careless of car drivers everybody sees this everyday. They are not paying attention not looking at the left and right mirror.. talking Chicago experience different from New York to Los Angeles why do you need to go 200 mph in a car or a motorcycle expensive one.( Public streets stop lights the speed limit is 25 to 30 mph probably is the same in your state or not.) I'm riding my custom e-bikes made from scratch not buying something online do not care for a motorcycle ebike this what these companies are making. I ran my e-bike on the bike lane in the park ain't that many people bike trail back on topic. I see some cars driving in the bike lane while you it in share the road especially downtown Chicago bike lane is protected you are driving 25 mph it's hectic.😮 people need to be safe and watch your surroundings Vehicles people having a good day

So you're not allowed to build a cell pack to make your e bike go faster. But you can rebuild your engine to make your car go faster......

If its pedal assist its one thing the issue is sunrons and other e dirt bike when a e bike that can go 50cc moped speed up to 55mph thats when you start blurring lines between motorcycle and e bike if it goes 16 to 20mph fine but 30 mph plus its risky

Let's all appeal these laws

Heavily regulating eBikes isnt going to solve the issues we are having, its going to criminalize kids and bike enthusiasts who ride.

With the amount of fires in NYC caused by E-bikes they have to do something. People in that city store the bikes and charge the batteries in their apartments. With many people living in these apartments it is a serious problem. I don't blame NYC for doing this, they are loosing people and buildings because of these batteries.

There IS a point to this. Control.

And they keep imposing more and more restrictions to take more of your money and write more tickets its revnew collections bull shit

I am 100% happy with limiting kids on Surrons. Maybe, to make that work makes using a 255 watt is the unlicensed, under 16 limit. All cyclists 12 and younger are restricted by law from riding any bicycle on any street or roadway (shoulders and bike lanes are not a roadway! That is simple again! --------------------------------------------------------- I am 100% against licencing E-Bicycles under 550 watts for 500 watt legal areas as I believe in having the 50 extra covers for a system producing a small overage especially on a fresh pack (or over 800 watts in areas where 750 W is legal) Insurance should not be required for any E-Bikes. The licence must be for the rider 12-16 who do not have a car Drivers Permit, registration if warranted should not be steeply billed like $10 per bike and be an impossible to remove embossed sticker that paint can't easily cover or adhere to as a deterrent to crime. --------------------------------------------------------- Does that Dutch power test station work for Midrive setups? --------------------------------------------------------- We need a set of both UL listed Batteries and UL Listed E-Bike manufacturer's from United Laboratories as I don't trust companies to list them selves properly! --------------------------------------------------------- To purchase a Surron, a motor cycle operators permit must be provided to and recorded by the dealer with it being insured & tagged by the state immediately before pickup. If is found with a rider other than the one whom it was sold to whom is not a street MC licenced operator both the rider and the registered owner get Penalized excepting a police reported theft of the Surron! --------------------------------------------------------- Adults (like parents) driving Motor vehicles over 1000 lbs should, lose family wide access to all motor vehicles for 5 years and as part of their conviction they should required to purchase an bicycle or E-Bike valued over $500 or more and log 30 hours of riding time per month for the duration of their 5 year ban! At minimum any Car/SUV/Truck (18 wheelers incl.) at fault accident should include a 12 month parking (no use) requirement for the specific vehicle with no sale either of that vehicle! That would put the fear of god in many drivers and all businesses! These should be mandated as a Climate Protection Solution!

@Mike Fede: No state I'm aware of has annual smog inspections, let alone general inspections, anymore. That isn't to say a car can't get "reffed," or sent to be inspected by the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR). The issue for California is that the California Vehicle Code defers to federal law (see CVC 15210, p. 8). Which means that since the feds treat E-bikes -- which exclude Surrons and the like -- like bicycles, then that means nobody will conform to registration and licensing, especially since insurance companies are now refusing to insure EVs, including Tesla big-rig tractor-trailer cabs. Given this, even if California wanted to require insurance, no insurance company would comply. They would refuse, citing the rash of battery fires for E-bikes because of cheap Chinesium batteries from mainland China. Furthermore, any attempt to do this kind of crap is nothing more than using "public safety" to implement yet another revenue stream, since more people are riding E-bikes. This also means that if they are going to prohibit E-bikes to kids under a certain age, the only way that is valid is to also ban normal bicycles to kids under a certain age. And how do you think _that_ would fly, even in a one-party state like Commieforniastan? Edit: And Mike? This isn't the new BMX bike or skateboard, this is the new Whizzer bike -- a gas-engine bike from the 1950s. The difference? They weren't concerned with revenue generation back then, and actually respected people's rights. Now? Given how the California Uniparty has taxed the people of California into economic obliteration, and spent tax money on projects that will never see completion, i.e., the $3.2 billion "High-Speed Rail Project," this is yet another way to try and milk even more money from Californians. That's all this is. And given the amount of Karens who think they can dictate laws to, it's not surprising California is essentially trying to violate it's own law, not to mention apply federal law in such a manner the feds themselves don't. Edit 2: Mike, what the Dutch cops have is essentially an E-bike dyno. It's literally the E-bike equivalent of the same equipment that speed shops use to tune and dyno cars. Personally, I think cops using it is a violation of the Fourth Amendment, since cops here have no power or authority, let alone are not technical experts, to test E-bikes, no different than cops issuing any citation or ticket for equipment violations. Testing an E-bike's motor or power output is going to read different depending on tire size (radius, width from sidewall to sidewall), type of drivetrain (chain or belt), type of motor, etc. The only thing any cop could do is set speed limits for bicycles generally, which one, make no sense, since bicycles don't come with speedos; and two, at least in the US, where there are different speed limits is usually only on limited-access highways, like interstates and freeways. Otherwise, all conveyances, including vehicles, must obey a speed limit, if the thing on the street or road can meet that speed limit. Which means it is pointless to test motor power output, let alone speed, unless you require a speedo. Why? Ignorance of the law, especially where normal bikes are concerned, since normal bikes aren't required to have speedos, and never know how fast they are going. The point here is, government agencies are discriminating against E-bikes, simply because they are E-bikes. That's it. And that discrimination isn't perpetrated against motorcycles, cars, gas-equivalent Whizzers, or normal bicycles. And it doesn't matter if an E-bike has a motor or not. Under US federal law, the feds treat E-bikes like normal bicycles. And that is how the states should do it, because if a state thinks I'm gonna comply with stupid rules or regulations no bicyclist has to, they have another think coming.

An E-bike is more than essentially a motorcycle, it is a motorcycle. When ICE powered bikes were the only option, they were banned and treated as motorcycles. On many trails and bike paths the ICE version was not allowed. "No motor powered vehicles allowed". Along comes the E-bike and so do the same problems that are associated with motorized cycles in the past, remember the Segway? Many electric powered cycles were designed to assist the rider and they didn't have independent throttles, if you stopped pedaling the power assist would also stop. The assist is a great way to add power when the going got tough, it was also a great way for the elderly to get out and take longer trips than they ever could. One of the most popular applications was in mountain bikes, getting the rider up very difficult rises. The throttle is the problem, it allows the rider to accelerate to max speed just like motorcycle without any input from the rider. The vast majority of e-bike riders I encounter are either not pedaling at all or with little load. And they are flying around on the sidewalks, on the bike paths and across whatever path they pick. Granted those riders are typically the younger ones but there are many older people that using their bikes in the same way. I mentioned the Segway, its demise was due to same issues that E-bikes will face. A motorized, unregulated, vehicle is not compatible on the sidewalks and non-motorized bike trails. Get rid of the throttle, if you want to ride a bicycle, you need to provide at least 80% of the load and if you can't you will just slow down and continue at a slower speed, just like on a normal bike.

At 733 you see a van driving down a bike lane.

Its what wrong with America so easy to put ban on things why they asking the wrong questions they need to be fixing the road its a crime how roads are need bike lines plain and simple

They want to monetize ebikes. There loosing money on registration.. we cant let this happen.

First, they want you to go electric, and people go electric cause gas is too high, and when you go electric the refineries panic cause people are starting to go electric, and fewer people buying gas, E-bike riders should get together and show those politicians how many votes they will lose if they pass that law.

To anyone who sees this do not follow stupid laws, they can not inforce a law no one follows, if enough people rebel they will have no choice but to give in.

I thought the mph cut off was 30mph not 20mph. Class 3 PEV was legal as far as i know. Perhaps it differs for scooters?

Im in seattle until the police do something about all the open drug use snd crime downtown your not fucking with me.

🐝🏁 U L listed 👍

Back in the day Honda made a moped that didn’t have pedals what happened to that? “Honda Express” local Police department said I needed a Motorcycle license it only went 25mph

More control for the state and government to tax and track you

They can't even enforce the laws of the road for motor vehicles let alone electric bicycles.