Knowing how quick you put out the deepfake (relative to when episode came out), Disney should hire you to work on the deaging process in films, especially since they've done it in other media before.

This is phenomenal! I was waiting for you to do this - already a huge improvement! I keep thinking Disney will learn and quit making this weak mistake. If I may ask, roughly how much money did you spend to make this happen?

Why doesn't disney use the same technology?

@@hidir3532 I think it has to do with using in-house technology and not wanting to use better alternatives. ILM probably designed and implemented the tech used to de-age characters for Star Wars. They probably know of the deepfakes but most likely stick with the deaging cgi because they are most familiar with it (rather than learning how to do deepfakes).

@@hidir3532 Yeah, i'm also having a hard time trying to understrand that...

Yeah shamook bro well done , loved it

This!

I was about to say. He did a very fantastic job.

came to see this comment

For real!!!

Was he actually hired? I highly doubt such thing, could you show sources if you believe he was? Companies don't do things like this often, so I was really wondering.

@@qe9573 yes he was, he confirmed it in the comments of his last video (Pattison/Batman deepfake)

@@shoemakerluis That's really cool

yup watched this cause i saw that dude got hired by ILM. thats awesome

There r good and not as good people at all companies. I guess not all KZfaqrs r ticks lol

Now if only they had someone to fix the voice so he doesn't sound like a robot. But great work visually! I was really excited to see your work Shamook!

@@laserbeamlightning It's Mark Hamill doing his best to sound like his old self

Came here to make this exact comment! I didn't check the episode credits, but I really want to hope you worked on this episode, because the difference in quality in Luke's appearance from the Mandalorian, and his appearance in Episode 6 of BoBF is night and day. Wow! Excellent work!

@@JTMaster Why not just hire the guy the cast as him in Battlefront 2? Would've been cool to just have Sebastian Stan play the role at this point

@@JTMaster In the behind-the-scenes of The Mandalorian S2, they explained that the voice was all AI, not Mark Hamill. I don't know if they used the same approach for BOBF, but if it sounds robotic as well it must be.

Shut up

@@micromacaroni2477stfu

Yall stfu

A surprise to be sure but a welcome one! To see you here

Thanks Swoozie very cool

Yeah but the expressiveness is still better in the original. The deepfake just looks dead.

Yeah it's better when you have a decent base.

The skin tone, the lips, the mouth shape, the moles, the scars, the eyes, even his fighting style was completely off and I just got done watching the OT movies as well as playing hundreds of hours of Battlefront 2 in which they completely NAILED Lukes fighting style (and pretty much each Jedi/Siths). This last scene was such a let down. Hell I still believe they did CGI Leia and Tarkin WAY more justice in the movies.

Well the old Star Wars movies are a bit more "textured" since they are older and we are used to see Mark Hamill that way so yeah, I prefer the deep fake one.

@@outlawzqc Same opinion. And edit was a little bit off. The color of the blade should remain a mystery till the elevator opened (we all knew who he was, but the suspense was there as well, but they showed the green too soon IMO). And that piruette with Force Push looked weird. Swooshing effect of the blade is very weak and was better even in Original Trilogy, here it lacks post-production. Got no complains about Luke's presence, I was touched nonetheless, still love the scene, but from experienced filmmakers we should expect more than just good ideas.

Are you his dad?

proud is the way to the dark side...

Why?

I look forward to the retro update!

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

but Lucasfilm released the original...so now this guy works under the same umbrella of too many cooks in the kitchen. he wasnt hired to run the department. perspective folks, perspective

@@I_Shit_on_your_shit_point the cream rises to the top

@@bend5911 sycophantic simpletons cream themselves

im worry about this guy, he’s got a job but what if disney fire him and take shamook’s secret skill and share with others im still worry

@@joshuagraham2843 that should be the least of your worries

They probably already are.

Disney hired him.

*lightsaber

*Grogu

Actually it did Juan Marin. So YOU hold his lightsaber little prick!

"Hold my lightsaber?"... Lets have a chat down at HQ son.

@@martinbrancato5390 Read his whole comment before you get aggressive. I´m assuming english is not your first language.

If you didn't notice how death the first one was before this video I don't know what to say

@@amvchannels3458 nah, neither did i

well but they move less naturally with deepfake.

It was the first thing I noticed in the original, the eyes look terrifying

@@Szellah7 the originals are of a guy in his late 60s, vs a fake one of course.

If only they got a real impressionist to dub for Luke instead of their AI voice and then it would be perfect

I don't think so

@@danieldeleon1270 actually your wrong. This guys name is literally in the shows credits. He is now working for ILM and Lucas Arts. Google it.

@@danieldeleon1270 he works for them now

Shout out to Corridor Crew for being the reason I know what’s wrong with Luke’s face in this scene

@@carterfriske4516 haha I thought the same damn thing

Funny you say this, I commented about this guy on one of their latest uploads. Hopefully they’ll read it.

Bruh deepfaking is not hard hahahaha

@@badassgaming01 Creating a decent deep fake is relatively easy, yes. But creating a near perfect one is unbelievably difficult. Considering the best VFX company in the world, ILM, still struggles with this, I respectfully disagree with you.

It was genuinely the best they will ever do. I was close to tears. This all but confirms they should do a Luke tv series like holy hell that would be disgustingly amazing. That’s how you make everyone sign up to Disney +

@@haydenpettit3392 dude that would be the coolest show in the world. There is so much about Luke I want to know about

@@Kaaos_ yeah sorry, added a few more lines so it should be good now

Sebastian Stan looks so much like the original that it would make no difference! 😆

there was a reason why they didn't cast him though

@@lag00n54 yea because they wanted to pay tribute to Mark for his debut. They're not gonna do this all the time. Lol

It would be great!

or Anakin’s! oooo😮

*Industrial Light and Magic.

@@rickylovesyou which is part of it... So you're point? Jeeze

@@rickylovesyou 🤡

He was the person behind it looking so good!!!!!

Yup, the original was a bit underwhelming

@@Ocker3 the fuck it was? It was absolutely mind blowing lol

@@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMom see what happened to me was the title of a online article spoiled that Luke was going to show up, and then the CG just looked strange.

Same for Leia please !! 😍 And Tarkin !! That would be SO damn awesome !! I'm still pretty glad they did what they did, but being improved will surely make the impact of the moment so much better!! it's distracting when you realize it's artificial. With this technology you might stay in the moment as he/she was really there! 😍

@@alfanovanta Absolutely!! Definitely have him redo the Leia and Tarkin CGI! I would actually watch the movie again just to see that improvement. The original Mandalorian Luke was good, but watching fake Leia and Tarkin just made me regret people have to die.

Yeah like a blind person speaking....

Just need to use the eyes from this footage and the lips from the original.

For me, it's the skin. His skin looks way too perfect. The deepfake looks superior not just cuz he adds that spark back into the eyes, but the subtle imperfections into the skin that add so much character.

@@WobblesandBean yes you're right, it looks way to smooth.

Takes you out? Glad to know I didn’t ruin my own experience like you did

@@TheTruth-13 The experience is godly and I personally wasn't taken out of the moment. The CG is still pretty good! It just can be a bit frustating if you know about deepfakes and how it easily could have been even better.

Someone always does it better than Disney when it comes to the new Star Wars space junky.

@@rejuvinatez347 facts

🤔🤔

Bro how is this remotely better? It looks a little worse if you ask me

Doesn't disney believe in deep fake tech?

Exactly right. People don't seem to understand how deepfakes work in it being a nearly completely automated process once the images are uploaded. No or very little manual animation is done after that. So the only reason some of the mouth and head movements are still off is because the underlying animation of them was poorly executed. Had the deepfake been done over better animation or better yet, a live actor, the mouth and other animation would've been seamless. Carrie Fisher deepfaked in Rogue One had the same issue for the identical reason. Whereas Harrison Ford deepfaked in Solo looked incredible (aside from Alden's square jaw/head which still bled through) because it was done over a live actor. That being said, Hamill's deepfake here still looks infinitely better than what we had before.

@@boomieboo is it bad that I don’t see anything wrong with Luke’s face?

CGI biggest problem are the Eyes 👀, this version got the better ones so it looks more natural!

@@jonnieleewalker5164 for this particular case though it's not only the eyes .. which do feel dead yes.. but it's also mouth movement that looks here like luke had a stroke and the lips just don't move right anymore.. and also the editing cuts were off, around the neck and around the hood and around everything really .. Personally it just took me off the moment , but other than that i liked what they did with the scene and Luke.

@@alejandromate4071 I agree. For me its a problem with the top lip not moving. It's just completely stiff, and that's not how human mouths work. Sure, the upper lip doesn't move as much as the lower, but they definitely take on shape when forming sounds. Not enough cgi art gets this right, and that accounts for a lot of the uncanny Valley imo.

Looks much better

As you would say, fuckin’ A! 😁

The mouth still looks weird but not knowing anything about making deepfakes im guessing they're really hard to get right

I said myself the same thing

Yeah, Luke doesn't look like a PS3 game character anymore! The only thing that needs improvement is the mouth, but there's not much to be done with that.

I think the one on the the left is supposed to look like Sebastian Stan mixed with Hamill. So when Stan takes the role it's a lot smoother for the audience

@@BadluckTribe I heard they used up all the money for their budget for the other episodes and the finale was where they had to cut corners. I’m not sure tho

Makes since. People seem to forget this is a TV series budget not a movie budget. This is one of the most perfect seasons for a TV series I've seen they did amazing and the fact the only thing people dislike out of the whole season is just a kinda crappy luke is great

I get that this looks good. But adding a deep fake luke onto a cgi luke is not impressive. Adding a deep face luke onto someone else is difficult. This deep fake is good but you have to remember the original artists were working on someone that didn't look like luke or at least had to de-age mark hamil

@@rosswilkes7817 Are you sure? I suspect deepfaking a lookalike actor yields better results than deepfaking a CGI attempt.

Whats jeans guy?

I hope they can fix his mouth. I know the deep fake didn’t have much to go on but both sides he looked so stiff when talking

@@gold333 a regular guy working on the set in a t-shirt and jeans was briefly standing in a hallway in a shot during an episode and a couple days later they digitally removed him. Edit: similar in scope to when a Starbucks cup was left in a shot for an episode of Game of Thrones. HBO had it removed after it was noticed.

Yeah that was my exact thought

Does Luke blink?

but does a worst job with the lips , unfortunately

😯😯

Agreed. Great work with the eyes. Lips not so much.

Yup. Has highlights and life.

Same, I thought damn even on KZfaq deepfakes are better done, and even longer!

It’s not better though! It’s just brighter with a dot of light in his eyes

@@TheTruth-13 yeah but it changes everything, the scene is more alive

@@schtemeul yeah right you mean brighter😂😂

@@TheTruth-13 Stop spamming your copium everywhere dude. lol

Then we can have T'Challa back, atleast for a little bit

@Crimson The Thunder Knight Such great philosophy. We only CGI shit actors. Or is it the other way around? 🧐

Corporate wants you to find the difference.

@@KNG-fm1kj Or just recast him the guy was playing a character not the character is him. Happened with dumbledore, been waiting 14 years for black panther since I was a child.

*ILM, not Disney

Yeah just they ran out of budget (or at least thats what was speculated)

@TGDS well they used Mark's face and de-aged him while this video used his face when he was younger and applied it to Luke. You can still see that it isn't perfect but it looks better than the original. Honestly though I think the editors were just lazy or something cause it could've been better even at their budget

@TGDS nah it was that CGI face tech they used in Rogue One.

@@epicvoiceguy Nope. It's deepfake.

@@epicvoiceguy no it’s been confirmed they used deep fake, but the best and most convincing deep fakes need a good movement mesh underneath to work with, and instead of just applying the deep fake to the face of the actor they used, there was a cgi layer in between, which is why he comes off so weird especially when speaking. They didn’t use mark hamil or Sebastian Stan as the body double for this Luke, so they had to try and fake a cgi face structure underneath to match some of Luke’s features so the deep fake wouldn’t come off misshapen.

Glad I'm not the only one saying this. It's such a common missing detail, that's easily fixed.

Yeah. The lack of eye glint is what makes him look dead. Video game company Valve realised this in 2004, so they wrote code specifically to make sure character eyeballs always had a glint on them. The deep fake fixes that, and even though it makes the rest of the face look overly painterly, it's still enough of an improvement.

the glint/twinkle is specifically called a "catch light" in photography.

I understood that reference!

@@tsunamifoxy SMH

@@tsunamifoxy I understand that reference to understanding that reference

Lmao 🤣

@@hoffmanmoore7630 I understand that reference to understand that reference to "I understand that reference to understand that reference"!

Even your CGI face looks more realistic than Disney's one! (also, Hi Amy! Love your videos!) ❤️

It is because it's a studio so they cannot use "programs" that he used. Lucasfilms made it like that for specific purposes.

@@user-mp3eh1vb9w Even if they can't use the same DF tools, there are still various other techniques that can be used to produce a much better job than they did. They really have no excuse. His eyes don't even have highlights! So dry.

Ditto

Do it!!!!

No he looks sad

Hahahahhaha

?

😁👍👍

"not from a mouse" would have been better but ok

jajaja!!! muy bueno.,,., (cuando leo "no de disney", ya me vino la cara de palpatine en el teatro..)

better than that, Book of Boba Fett ep 6 with soooo much more screen time and so much better!

Exactly. The eyes are so key.

And subtle mouth movement .

Right?? And the skin is too perfect, it's actually distracting. The deepfake looks much more real, because it adds back in those subtle imperfections. It still looks uncanny, but that's because the deepfake is simply overlaid on an already flawed template. Whoever did the original really did a poor job. The mouth movement is just straight up awful, and the eyes are lifeless. Jedi are stoic, but they're not completely devoid of emotion. It's too bad there's no mock awards show for the Emmys, like The Razzies are to the Oscars, cuz this would definitely win most poorly animated 😂 Which is a shame, cuz they absolutely nailed it for lil' Grogu. Did Mark Hamill even perform for the template? Or is Luke entirely CG? I know they used a body double, but it doesn't specify in what capacity. I don't know if what we're looking at is Mark Hamill standing there with CG elements blocked over it, or if it's the nameless body double with Mark's facial performance.

It doesn't help that CGI Luke barely blinks. I think he only blinked 1x through the entire thing -when he bent down to pick up Grogu

Similar in the movie King Kong (2005) they would always have a fake highlight in the eyes of Kong. In its death scene the highlight disappears. As if the life and soul leaves the body. It's super subtle, but genius.

I'd say PS4 at least... but yeah, the deepfake looks way better, especially the eyes.

@@TheMorbidOtaku That's fair.

@@TheMorbidOtaku The eyes look better in a still image, they are both still lifeless looking however

The original is deepfake too by the way...

Lol it already looks like a PS3 cutscene But a really epic one

In the original or the new one?

@@The_Gallowglass both I think

Both. Lips hardly move. Like a ventriloquist.

@@OwenGebhard Yeah, but in some frames, it looks like the one on the right is worse. Still overall the texturing and Mark Hamil look is far more realistic in the new one.

That's alright. Go back and watch Empire in the swamp scene. When Luke says "If he even exists" - he didn't move his mouth at all. ;)

There is a way to fix that, using a real person as Luke and using deep fake on top. It would be awesome.

It would be more perfect if they were not using CG, using a random real person to be as Luke and using deepfake to change his face.

if the person who did the deep fake had the mocap/original actor data if would be almost perfect and 10x better than the weird cg they decided to do

Lighting is much better on original.

The deepfake is better in details, but moves like a rubber mask. All deepfakes look like that to me, so I don't think I'd blame it all on the source being a processed (de-aged) image. Rubber mask face is a characteristic of deep fakes.

The eyes are unnaturally lit up on the deep fake and the mouth is worse off. Prefer the cheeks

Doesn’t eve. Look better! Look at his nose. All he did was get rid of the facial hair, and made him a bit brighter with a dot in his eyes lmao

@@TheTruth-13 What are you talking about lmao it looks much better, if you think you can do it better, good for you

@@Detective_Deadblue 1:21 yeah this looks much better😂😂

Man... Yo... Right!

@@TheTruth-13 You should consider going to an eye doctor

Yo fr that’s what I’m saying

It's especially better in the eyes. The rest is a slight improvement that makes it even more accurate, but the eyes is what it makes the big difference here.

Except the mouth movement looks worse

exactly

The results are def better when deepfakes are used on an actual actors face

It's because Tarkin in Rogue One was too expressive to the point where his movements looked way too fluid and not realistic. Like you said, I think they tried to minimize the risk of that and completely over shot this time. Luke is kind of like a walking corpse. He makes no sudden movements or facial expressions, and he's got "dead eyes" :/

They need the original take without the deep fake

Well, other than the expression part, I can vouch that the deepfake one looks more surreal especially with the eyes being right, nevertheless. Its still a better part compared to the Disney 💩

Clearly he is not a Shamook

Tony Stark

Oh yes. i love this post

Disney CGI specialists: "Well, I'm sorry...I'm not Shamook"

I’m high right now and this made me laugh maybe more than it should have but either way I love you for that. That’s one of my favorite quotes ever even tho it’s pretty random

I think they don't want deep fake to become popular so we can't put our favorite 13 year old disney princesses on...stuff.

Because they go to people who have been specialising in CGI for years. Doing it via CGI requires a lot of skill and can only be done by a few people in the world. Many times that number could use deep fake. It ceases to be something that is rare and can be charged at a premium rate. Consequently, they have a financial motive not to change.

*waves* Hello from FPV world :-)

@@jamesfx2 bro, there are apps on your phone for free which can "deepfake" better than disney did for this episode. It's AI doing it not some tech wizard

I think they did use a deep fake for the original but they rushed it. You have to train these things

More like a guy with two 2080Ti's in NVLink. Deep fakes need A LOT of processing power. But I know you're just joking :)

@@MrFahrenheit2k I use a single Quadro P6000

@@Shamook I could pull it off with a Geforce 256 and Paint! :P

@@Shamook boom, roasted.

heu... deepfake has been make on the original who was already retouch, so its not "one guy"... and only apply on front face, all the side, and looking bot are very bad with deepfake... so here they just dont do.

The reason behind it might be that it is a controversial issue because some people use deepfake to put Hollywood actresses' faces on porn stars. It can be that Hollywood is afraid to use deepfake in their official materials because it could be interpreted that they legitimise that aspect as well.

A deepfake on KZfaq only needs to be at 1080p resolution, but a professional effects company working on TV and feature films needs a neural net that can be trained on faces and generate them at 4K or even 8K. That's going to take a lot of time and computing power. This deepfake is pretty good, but at 1:05, the deepfake doesn't have the amused expression Luke is supposed to get from seeing R2 interact with Grogu.

@@Prosaicus With brutal render farms (can't imagine how gigantic is the one used by pixar)... it's a question of hours, even in 8K

@@Prosaicus Well, take into account that this deepfake had the shitty cgi Luke as a reference. If we would have access to the mocap footage, I'm pretty sure the deepfake would turn out much better.

I love you.

Exactly. It's all in the eyes. The originals are lifeless

Completely

Who here actually knows which movie the OP is quoting?

@@mikesgotniceice scarface

Maybe they’ll go back and deep fake it who knows

They should adapt to it already

I think they need to hire this guy to do it. I hope they become aware of his talents here!

They're stubborn. That's my guess.

What they did was deepfakes. Atleast part of it maybe like the mouth and eyes.

Yeah, deepfake can’t fix bad animation.

That and the lack of facial expression, yeah he's a Jedi and they're supposed to be emotionless but he's basically a robot lol.

I’m not sure why they didn’t use Deepfake at this point. That was my first thought when I originally saw this scene.

Totally agree

I'm not saying that I necessarily disagree with you I just want you to do me a quick favor and say the word nothing out loud while looking in a mirror.

Talent without training leads to matte Luke face.

Wasn't she trained with Luke and Leia in the trilogy? If the issue that she was using the force in the first film before she was training, remember how easily/quickly using the force came to Luke in New Hope, before he had any real training with Yoda.

Bro din djarin beat gideon with no training, guess hes a mary sue too then?

@@squarehead3336 No training? Every Mandalorian trains/prepares for battle on a daily basis

@@squarehead3336 Din was trained in the Fighting Corps by the Children of the Watch. We don't know whether Gideon had any kind of advanced combat training.

dude I was searching for his name in the credits lmao, Luke looks SO much better!

@@TheChiptuner You find him?

@@justaname1345 No, but I was looking for their username, I don’t know their real name

Your wish came true today

nothing is perfect its about the feeling and story of seeing luke not about the eyes ore mouth its about luke

@@Zap319 yeah, the bad CGI took me out of the feeling.

When I first saw this scene I thought they hired a Luke lookalike. This deep fake is so much better and it's actually is recognizable as Luke. The CG is actually really amazing and realistic, but the main problem is that it just looks like a different person.

@undy - a Luke-alike

@@Zap319 maybe if they didnt toss Boba Fett into the series. It feels like they are just cramming nostalgia into it because they can.

This needs more likes

The original was a deepfake. You can see it glitching between images in the original. The show used a deepfake with bad reference material. The A.I. couldn't use it correctly. It must not have had enough time to render before the episode was set to air. They may update it later since it's a streaming show.

We need to go deep(fake)er...

Deepfake is purely data driven, which makes it unbiased. The problem with modern CGI "realism" is that animators go in with the preconceived notion that CGI is "stiff and robotic" and they overcompensate in the opposite direction. The result is something that looks TOO animated, TOO smooth, TOO subtle.

I think luke was supposed to look more like Sebastian Stan than Hamill

I’m saying

how is this version better, there’s literally no expression in the face, it looks so much more creepy

@@samishi2811 is so much better. The deepfake can't fix the mouth movements yet, since the original model was not provided. But this more like Luke. The original looked like a bad video game render.

@@bmath77 The original probably prioritized getting Mark Hamill involved for the sake of cast clout, but it still wasn't terrible. In my opinion the only main problem was small facial details getting artefacted through rendering causing the PS4 game look, but it was fine.

The actor in place of Luke looked like had had no emotion in his face, which is probably why his face looks like that, and they probably didn’t have the technology or the time to fix the mouth movement because it’s a show not a movie. Oh and did Mark Hamill do the voice acting? Because I mean he probably has the talent to sound like his younger self which is probably why he was in the credits.