The Marner Saga

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SteveDangle

SteveDangle

4 жыл бұрын

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@canadianpoker83
@canadianpoker83 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in your early 20's and turning down over 100 million dollars CAD to play for your home town and childhood team.
@7teen7t79
@7teen7t79 4 жыл бұрын
I can't. Fuck Marner trade him for a competent 5 million dollar winger. And a defenseman and a pick. If he is an 11M+ player that's easily the return. What team willing to sell the farm for Marner? Apparently none cause of the lack of offer sheets. Take less than 10 from the leafs, or go play in Sweden or Switzerland or what have you. This is ridiculous. I hope he holds out and the leafs win without him.
@phillyb7276
@phillyb7276 4 жыл бұрын
i dont blame marner for not signing and hes not been offered 100mil. if i was marner id sit out training camp and ask for 50 mil over 4 years and a 10 mil signing bonus
@tommybones93
@tommybones93 4 жыл бұрын
@@phillyb7276 they negotiate in US dollars. It's over 100 mill in canadian $$
@bbb136
@bbb136 4 жыл бұрын
Steve - Mitch is an adult. We gotta start holding him accountable for his actions. Maybe he is bowing to pressure from daddy but hell, it’s still his career and his contract.
@FMichael1970
@FMichael1970 4 жыл бұрын
And truth be told - this reminds me of the Lindros saga with his dad Carl getting waaay too involved...Funny how most parents of current/past NHL'ers don't get involved...
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 4 жыл бұрын
He's demanding more money probably due to higher taxes in Ontario Canada. He would make 1.6 million more or so if he played in a no income tax state in the US.
@Ignited911
@Ignited911 4 жыл бұрын
@@JHockeyFan do you think Tampa is offering him 9.4M x 7 years? No chance. Any other tax free state worth playing in or a team even remotely considering signing him to that amount? Then include the $$ lost through sponsorship money and just being in Toronto...end of the day the whole tax argument makes no sense as these star guys in Toronto make up for it off the ice, and then some while being paid in USD.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 4 жыл бұрын
Who the hell are we to him him accountable for his business dealings? I've seen some stupid comments lately, and fools suggesting he should be traded, all these dumbed-down Millennials The problem is Dumbass; he has problems dealing with signing players, clearly. And nobody ever mentions that ridiculous contract Nylander got; he was paid about a million a goal last season. Marner probably considers Dumbass to be a fool.
@melvynobrien6193
@melvynobrien6193 4 жыл бұрын
@@daniellee7355 Leafs will tank without Marner. And we don't know what the fuck is really going on. Blame Dumbass; he's done the same with Nylander and messed up the team. And the Leafs need Marner a whole lot more than Marner needs the Leafs.
@Waders27
@Waders27 4 жыл бұрын
I predict Steve's hair will be fully grey by the end of the season.
@jameskilgour387
@jameskilgour387 4 жыл бұрын
End of the season is generous.
@majorpaul2009
@majorpaul2009 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he hasn't gone bald ripping it out.
@paulthompson8793
@paulthompson8793 4 жыл бұрын
I'm done with him honestly, 7-8yrs @11m and he says no, talk about being greedy. For him it's clearly all about money and term, he wants to be walked into UFA so his next contract is huge, so selfish, where is the desire to be a Leaf? where is the desire to play and help the team? Kid could've been a legend in TO, but if he keeps this up he's going to get booed out of this city.
@dghvdhfhhb6405
@dghvdhfhhb6405 4 жыл бұрын
Matthews did not do that so he doesn’t need to do the Leafs a favour either
@loneraiderable
@loneraiderable 4 жыл бұрын
Darn right, there is a limit to what the public and fans will put up with!!
@seanedwards6860
@seanedwards6860 4 жыл бұрын
Mystic Phoenix I wouldn’t want to be a leaf in 3-4 years honestly, if Anderson leaves when his contract is up things won’t get any better. I think he’d rather consistently play for a winner, and a short term deal helps him find that winner if down the road the leafs fall off a cliff.
@eddiespaghetti9959
@eddiespaghetti9959 4 жыл бұрын
Steve needs a backbone sometimes, needs to be way harsher on Marner's camp but instead gives a really neutral opinion. Leafs offered a huge over payment at 11/7 and he still declined THAT, absolutely insane
@playerone4514
@playerone4514 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’m here early to watch the yelly guy yell about things
@knomies227
@knomies227 4 жыл бұрын
Player One as a fan of a team that’s not the leafs, same
@playerone4514
@playerone4514 4 жыл бұрын
Riley Zack I’m a Flyers fan but I’m a big Dangle guy
@knomies227
@knomies227 4 жыл бұрын
Player One I’m a blues fan and a dangle guy as well
@joshmakeshift
@joshmakeshift 4 жыл бұрын
wings fan and same
@SelanneFan8
@SelanneFan8 4 жыл бұрын
Ducks fan. Yelly guy is still in off season mode cause there was strangely no yelling 😂
@maddenmobileking_1239
@maddenmobileking_1239 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy take: What if the leafs threw an offer sheet at a different player that more represents the value they want to pay mitch Marner
@SuperCanadianPride
@SuperCanadianPride 4 жыл бұрын
MaddenMobile King_123 But then you’d have to trade Marner because you can’t afford him anymore. The problem with that is you wouldn’t get full value for Marner because you’re in need of a buyer.
@joeypereira7047
@joeypereira7047 4 жыл бұрын
They dont have their own 1st pick, so a trade for a top RHD, is the only way to do this. Some teams have to much defense and not enough offense, that's where you look.
@joeypereira7047
@joeypereira7047 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperCanadianPride lots of teams have phoned about Mitch, look what Panarin just got. The Rangers way overpaid.
@galviano
@galviano 4 жыл бұрын
i agree....thats a great idea.....Braydon Point!!!!
@francis-hg5ix
@francis-hg5ix 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperCanadianPride no just dont sign him.... you have his rights... let him rot in switzerland
@alandunn8291
@alandunn8291 4 жыл бұрын
Marner and Matthews and Tavares competing over salary, goals and points destroying team. End the madness and name MORGAN RIELLY CAPTAIN. Checks all the boxes, Canadian kid, Leaf draft pick, longest tenure on team, all-star, leader of the D-Core and earns far less than the others so they will not be jealous of him getting the captaincy. Do it now and end this sibling rivalry among the forwards.
@ItzLori1
@ItzLori1 4 жыл бұрын
alan dunn have you seen the leafs promo video on Facebook this morning? Looks like a “c” has been edited off Matthews jersey.
@michaelc8192
@michaelc8192 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up playing hockey in Toronto, I find it reprehensible that someone would turn down playing for the home town leafs because making over 100 mil Canadian isn’t enough. Send this guy to Switzerland, we’re good enough to win without him.
@7teen7t79
@7teen7t79 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 8m with the leafs, or 500k in Switzerland. Have fun buddy
@hockeyandsoccer4ever
@hockeyandsoccer4ever 4 жыл бұрын
Look at you with the 5 syllable word
@dslking
@dslking 4 жыл бұрын
You had me until you said his dad was doing what's best for him. His dad has a small man complex. Things his dad has said or implied strongly 1. Mitch was better than Connor in his draft year. 2. Mitch should have never played anywhere but first line. 3. Called Hyman garbage. 4. Their family thinks it's crazy that Mitch is not considered captain. 5. Mitch was overlooked in the ohl. 6. Mitch was screwed out of his bonuses but Auston got them 7. Mitch is as good as Auston. He also tried to start his own marner memorabilia site in Mitch's first year with the life This guy isnt a normal hockey dad. He is a nutcase and he is going to ruin his sons career. He is a bully and orders his son what to do. Honestly I don't think Mitch is like this but he feels pressure from this asshole. Paul marner if you are reading this....stop trying to live through your kid. You are going to ruin him just like Carl Lindros ruined Eric. HOF career but zero cups and injured most of it..
@tmlfan7785
@tmlfan7785 4 жыл бұрын
d wayne have you seen the video of Paul at the rink when Marner was a kid?
@dslking
@dslking 4 жыл бұрын
@Philip Billyard on twitter to a fan. I'll see if I can find it
@allghilliedup21
@allghilliedup21 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of how Jack Johnson's career was nearly ruined by his toxic greedy parents.
@acostello0424
@acostello0424 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@jordanwillnance
@jordanwillnance 4 жыл бұрын
If Mitch resigns for an unreasonable amount that screws my team, I’m still going to resent him as soon as he hits the ice in a Leaf Jersey. Nothing will change.
@FMichael1970
@FMichael1970 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly cannot blame anyone who feels this way towards a player...Granted - it's their right under the CBA to do what they're doing - holding out for more $$$, but these athletes best be careful for their actions have consequences...There's a good chance the Leafs will have a depleted roster next season as they won't have enough cap space to afford some of their UFA Dmen, and there's also a good chance of losing a few current roster players if Dubas does in fact give in to Marner's demands.
@luc0007
@luc0007 10 күн бұрын
​@@FMichael1970you called it. These choke artists have fucked up any chance at all to build a team. 4 FORWARDS making 50% of the cap. This isn't basketball where a few stars can drag a team to a championship
@Wolfschanzeful
@Wolfschanzeful 4 жыл бұрын
Two things will change this ridiculous RFA business. 1) One of them will sign a 3 year bridge betting on themselves (e.g. Laine) and blown a knee and be out of the league and all the other future RFAs will remember that they are taking a huge risk by refusing longer term. 2) The cap growth rate will slowdown and teams will realize they can't be so undisciplined with their negotiations.
@nickwaxer77
@nickwaxer77 4 жыл бұрын
Dangle...I love you man. But you are being too kind to mitch here. Mitch is a man. He is not some boy. This is his money and his contract and he ultimately decides what he gets. He was the one who had final say. He is being greedy. Marner obsessed fans dont want to admit but he is. He is being envious of the clearly better player in matthews. Everyone including dubas is being way too nice and accommodating to him at this point. Its time to put your foot down.
@user-ic7gl9nz1m
@user-ic7gl9nz1m 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. When Nylander went through this last year, everybody blamed him. Now that it's Marner, it's his dad or his agent. Why? Well a Toronto boy would never do this? RIght? LOL, Marner's greedy, he could have signed that 7 x 11 deal and should have
@Mr_N0_0ne
@Mr_N0_0ne 4 жыл бұрын
agrreed
@ShadowExe007Vageta
@ShadowExe007Vageta 4 жыл бұрын
nickwaxer77 Marner is better than Matthews
@mcdaviddeservesbetter8
@mcdaviddeservesbetter8 4 жыл бұрын
God damn, I’m sad about Spiderman.
@13johnnyemo
@13johnnyemo 4 жыл бұрын
You guys just hate players knowing their worth huh? I mean the rest of the league tried to warn you with that we can and we will stuff but too bad.
@driller114mm4
@driller114mm4 4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect Mr Marner, for those dollars and your home town team? All I can say is would that be a window or isle seat to Europe?
@kyletran8064
@kyletran8064 4 жыл бұрын
We should stop or we”lol stoop to the islanders level.
@driller114mm4
@driller114mm4 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyletran8064 Going home and holding your hometown team for ransom are 2 different scenarios for me. Hometown kid or not, there's no I in TEAM.
@SteveDangle
@SteveDangle 4 жыл бұрын
driller114mm Have you heard my podcast?
@driller114mm4
@driller114mm4 4 жыл бұрын
@@SteveDangle This video is it ,on this subject. Trying to avoid speculation til something leaked. Sources on these numbers have been pretty reliable in the past thus my response Steve.
@The0rangeMonster
@The0rangeMonster 4 жыл бұрын
When Steve Dangle takes a beat and tells everyone to cool it, you know that things are not alright.
@hockeyandsoccer4ever
@hockeyandsoccer4ever 4 жыл бұрын
Ya. He knows this is actually serious and trying to cool down the pissed off Leafs nation
@akumasdeception
@akumasdeception 4 жыл бұрын
Keep excusing Marner for everything. You guys act this kid is a 10 year old that doesn’t know what’s going on. At least have more respect for him than that.
@hockeyandsoccer4ever
@hockeyandsoccer4ever 4 жыл бұрын
I so tired of everyone blaming the agent. Is Mitch stupid?
@adampincente209
@adampincente209 4 жыл бұрын
What did he have to say, I can't even bare to watch these cringey, lame, stale same old schtick videos anymore, just here for the comments.
@alexlalonde202
@alexlalonde202 4 жыл бұрын
@@adampincente209 why bother watching the vids if you don't like them. God you people are stupid.
@alexlalonde202
@alexlalonde202 4 жыл бұрын
@@adampincente209 no one is forcing you to watch the videos. Just fucking leave
@ldaws-3912
@ldaws-3912 4 жыл бұрын
Right? he has a voice box. And the dude is 22 years old. I think he's a brat that got very "fun loving" last year aka cocky af. And now he's hiding behind his agent and father to try and downplay the fact that it seems he has a insecurity towards his friend Auston getting paid more than him.
@herpderp1750
@herpderp1750 4 жыл бұрын
116 MIL Canadian, Steve. Trade him. This is cancer for the team. 11 mil is an over payment. And that was shot down. You can't pay him the amount he freaking turned down. We have ONE defense man signed next summer. The cap dictates we can't afford this kids expectations.
@JJ-fg2wd
@JJ-fg2wd 3 жыл бұрын
You know, the more I go over the timeline of the Mitch Marner contract saga, the more i believe that Darren Ferris should claim a great amount of responsibility for Marner's growing reputation as a player who folds under pressure. He might've earned a healthy commission and got his client a massive deal, but it is becoming apparent that the expectations baked into this massive extension are playing an enormous psychological toll on Marner. If he struggles for a stretch in the regular season next year with fans in the stands, things could get quite ugly. Sometimes, what's best for you and your client isn't always wringing every penny from a team's pockets. That being said, if Marner was emphatically pushing for maximum money and it wasn't just Ferris running the show....well, he dug his own grave for his reputation. A golden grave, but a grave nonetheless.
@joeypereira7047
@joeypereira7047 4 жыл бұрын
You are being naive. It's all 3. Agent, dad and Marner. 11×8 is $116 million Canadian dollars. For a winger. Not even the best In the league. I would rather trade Marner and Ceci, for a RHD and playmaking winger. Pesce is making, just over, a ridiculous 4 million dollars a year, until 2023-24. That would leave the leafs with 11 million to go after, a playmaking winger. If Marner gets all that money, the leafs are screwed. Unless Mikheyev turns out to be another Panarin and Dadonov, which he just might do, (similar numbers on a worse team then Panarin and Dadonov who both played for the powerhouse, KHL St. Petersburg) hopefully Mikheyev can be at least a close second to Panarin or a close 3rd to Dadonov. Marner turning that contract down in June is absurd, his obsession with Matthew's, top goal scorer, since entering the league per minutes played and other unreal stats, makes Marner look money hungry. Dont care what he does anymore. Hopefully hes traded and leafs cap will look much better and defense much better.
@UzumakiNaruto_
@UzumakiNaruto_ 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Marner and hope he stays, but on the otherhand trading him for a top end defenseman would be pretty damn good too and balance things out better. Leafs would definitely miss his offense, but I feel we can still score pretty decently without him.
@buckeyeisaacable
@buckeyeisaacable 4 жыл бұрын
i know you're just spitballing, but theres no way the canes trade pesce for marner. they dont have the space to sign him, plus like you said it's too good of a deal and it's long term.
@nateesquega1852
@nateesquega1852 4 жыл бұрын
I'll excuse myself after re-reading your post
@joeypereira7047
@joeypereira7047 4 жыл бұрын
@@buckeyeisaacable Not spitballing, been saying this from the beginning of the summer, it would solve all the cap problems the leafs have and they will be able to get a great RHD back. I'm dubas, that deal is off the table now. He doesn't have to go to the canes. Lots of teams have called about getting Marner. So, why waste 11+ a year, when you can sign a UFA dman or trade for one and sign a playmaking winger next year and keep your d-core in tact with the extra cap space. What's Marner going to do when Matthew's is named captain, demand that he get it, that they alternate the captaincy every game, this is turning into a shitshow.
@buckeyeisaacable
@buckeyeisaacable 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeypereira7047 yeah I agree. marner turning down these deals is an insult, you can upgrade the defense and get a good winger as well
@ldaws-3912
@ldaws-3912 4 жыл бұрын
BTW $11m USD would be $14.5m CAD dollars if anyone was curious. Doing the math this dude could buy 31 brand spanking new 2019 Rolls Royce Wraiths EVERY season. Wish I could turn down that kind of money while playing hockey smh. Meanwhile some people struggle to make rent.. I mean think about something you would love to buy and imagine how many you could buy with $14.5m
@aj4to145
@aj4to145 4 жыл бұрын
Point will be signed soon @ close to 8.5m, Rantanen will follow at slightly lower after. The only team willing to overpay Marner by more than 3m is the leafs.
@hehmtube
@hehmtube 4 жыл бұрын
So just ask Mitch: "ARE YOU IN ??"
@maxpowr90
@maxpowr90 4 жыл бұрын
Marner gonna pull an Antonio Brown and sign with Tampa.
@birdiec
@birdiec 4 жыл бұрын
Then we sign point
@TheogRahoomie
@TheogRahoomie 4 жыл бұрын
No way they’d just go ahead and make Marner their highest payed player.
@aj4to145
@aj4to145 4 жыл бұрын
How good would that be with Point coming back...Only problem Tampa isn't that stupid.
@patrickbooth5091
@patrickbooth5091 4 жыл бұрын
maxpowr90 hahahaha
@Luchoveli
@Luchoveli 4 жыл бұрын
Nope he signed for 6 with the 6ix! Hes staying
@jctasm
@jctasm 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve. Thanks.
@robirvinejr.1017
@robirvinejr.1017 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Steve - Really appreciate you using a wide variety of sources to illustrate the point. Hope you land a radio gig at the Fan or 1050.
@saml6741
@saml6741 4 жыл бұрын
Marner is clearly getting horrible advice from Daddy & Agent
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 4 жыл бұрын
Maximize money, he does in fact get taxed higher in Ontario, Canada. He should be demanding more to account for the amount more he would take home in the US.
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 4 жыл бұрын
@TTCGamer Taxes still matter. He still loses some of that money. I do understand your point though, so point taken.
@CndMoneyGuy
@CndMoneyGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@JHockeyFan He also makes US dollars living in Canada, so that $77m offer is over $100m Canadian.
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 4 жыл бұрын
@@CndMoneyGuy And then the Canadian government penalizes him for being successful and takes extra money from him.
@666Warg999
@666Warg999 4 жыл бұрын
@@JHockeyFan Don't try to tell us how Canadian taxes work or that you understand the nuance of international economics. Bottom line he has more money being paid in USD and living in Canada.
@Detector2002
@Detector2002 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty soon Marner gonna be in the Larry Murphy file folder.
@sketcheadfilms
@sketcheadfilms 4 жыл бұрын
i can't wait to watch this video about teddy blueger
@196236502
@196236502 4 жыл бұрын
Release the video already
@sketcheadfilms
@sketcheadfilms 4 жыл бұрын
@@196236502 saturday at 10 AM EST
@GeorgiaDipper91
@GeorgiaDipper91 4 жыл бұрын
The O Dog said it best. Put the offer of 7x11mill on the table beside a plane ticket to Switzerland and let him choose which one he wants. Can’t let this kid, his dad and his agent bully the leafs
@scorpiothegreat1
@scorpiothegreat1 4 жыл бұрын
They offered him more than Ovi, Crosby, and Kucherov. He turned them down. Mitch can’t hold their jocks!!
@maryrowe1616
@maryrowe1616 4 жыл бұрын
The sun came out. Marner signed.
@erikmartin4996
@erikmartin4996 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so much fun listening to Steve talk about his team. One day I’ll watch the Leafs play at home and I’m buying a Dangle jersey
@Jon4U
@Jon4U 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. Buuuuuuutttt I wouldn’t mind yelly Steve’s take on this too lol.
@TacticalSeaSquad
@TacticalSeaSquad 4 жыл бұрын
The context of tense and personal negotiations reallllllllyyyyy comes into light after the Babcock firing...
@zascorpusa
@zascorpusa 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly time to trade Marner. Dubas grow some and sign him and do a trade. Mitchy you damaged your Rep in T.O. Nobody will have your back anymore
@zednik4hart
@zednik4hart 4 жыл бұрын
*trades stamkos for marner*
@noobmaster-wj3qm
@noobmaster-wj3qm 4 жыл бұрын
Signs a day later
@bighonkies
@bighonkies 4 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment where Steve makes a video and then Marner signs the next day :P
@grizzly--vv1lh
@grizzly--vv1lh 4 жыл бұрын
This is nylander all over again. But i know nylanders 7mil per year contract is looking mighty good now
@adderalljunkie6144
@adderalljunkie6144 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like Nylander. Dubas had been in the driver's seat recently at the time and only had a few months to talk to Willy before the start of the season. They have been talking to Marner for over a year! Willy wanted long term because he wanted to be here for a long time. Marner is fighting for a short term. Willy was born in Calgary and spent most of his youth in the States and Sweden. The Leafs are Marner's HOMETOWN TEAM! and he turned down a deal that would make him the 2nd highest paid winger in the league. Completely different context and context is everything.
@grizzly--vv1lh
@grizzly--vv1lh 4 жыл бұрын
@@adderalljunkie6144 im just saying that last year around this time people were getting upset with nylander for wanting to get paid and he signed for a reasonable deal. Hometown or not marner wants to get paid and people are getting annoyed with it. His preferred term was matthews 5 year term so he could get paid again when he is in his prime.
@renunciation6
@renunciation6 4 жыл бұрын
No joke, as I watched this: Marner extension with Toronto is 6 years, just shy of $11 mil aav.
@cantthinkofaname7247
@cantthinkofaname7247 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine turning down 11 million a year. How much money do you need lol?
@ldaws-3912
@ldaws-3912 4 жыл бұрын
That's $11m USD by the way which would translate to about $14.5m CAD dollars. Don't forget that.
@matttricomi2259
@matttricomi2259 4 жыл бұрын
literally i could live off 11 mil for the rest of my life
@ldaws-3912
@ldaws-3912 4 жыл бұрын
Let's say this, he would be able to afford 483 Ford Mustangs every year. Or 29 Rolls Royces. Or he could buy fourteen $1m dollar properties all over the world for just playing one season. He could also buy 72,000 pairs of $200 shoes. Or whatever else floats your boat. It's crazy to think that the dude turned that kind of money down to play hockey.
@cantthinkofaname7247
@cantthinkofaname7247 4 жыл бұрын
D Laws that's crazy wow
@adderalljunkie6144
@adderalljunkie6144 4 жыл бұрын
More than Mathews. That is all that matters to him. He's nuts.
@jeffreypeterson3238
@jeffreypeterson3238 4 жыл бұрын
Ain't Marner making those demands. It's daddy and Jerry Maguire. BUT it's still bullshit. Get rid of him, stack the blue line and get a good back up for Freddie. I'm available for GM position btw.
@drew10981
@drew10981 4 жыл бұрын
I was honestly expecting a long yelling ranty video. However this may be one of the better videos I've seen on the Marner deal to date. Good job Steve. Good job trying to prevent your emotions from influencing how you see the situation and being an adult to evaluate what it looks like in the big picture. Keep that shit up, bud.
@KrisXMcKenna
@KrisXMcKenna 4 жыл бұрын
This aged well
@SnoodleMeTimbers
@SnoodleMeTimbers 4 жыл бұрын
He's a big boy stop hiding behind the agent and daddy.... Either you wanna be a leaf or not... Turn down 100+mill Canadian your a joke! you lost me Mitch
@fiftymissioncap9045
@fiftymissioncap9045 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers to that..fk bitch marner we wont have a team anymore if he gets that...not a team player
@JoeBlythe
@JoeBlythe 4 жыл бұрын
I had 100% faith in Marner up until just recently, but he hasn't lost me quite yet. If I wake up on Oct. 3, and he's still not signed, then Mitch and I are gonna have a huge problem.
@drfritz3517
@drfritz3517 4 жыл бұрын
lol we don't know shit about the negoceations and who"s pulling the strings.
@tylermackinnonn
@tylermackinnonn 4 жыл бұрын
TurrdFerg well it’s 8 months past this and he’s injured less then Matthews and is more consistent with points. I like them both but to me he’s worth the money now
@cloudysummers9970
@cloudysummers9970 3 жыл бұрын
Tyler MacKinnon no player is actually worth that much money
@user-ic7gl9nz1m
@user-ic7gl9nz1m 4 жыл бұрын
If he doesn't sign that long-term deal by October 1st, he'll be known as the Greediest player in the league
@SFascetta777
@SFascetta777 4 жыл бұрын
This whole thing has never felt like Mitch was in the driver's seat. Why he isn't, I have no idea. But there's no way he is being this unbelievably petty and unrealistic. That's not the person he has been over the course of his career. I think how jarringly opposite to his personality this has been is why fans are so upset. I genuinely hope that he is signed and this ends without irreparably damaging his relationship with the team, the city, and the fans, because he seems like a genuinely good guy, and is a tremendous hockey player. Signed, A Bruins' fan
@uroojali2732
@uroojali2732 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I haven't seen anything more accurate than this post
@johankiwii
@johankiwii 4 жыл бұрын
There's always multiple sides to a person. Just because he's a nice person or whatever dosen't mean that he's not greedy and wanna wanna cash in as much money as possible.
@uroojali2732
@uroojali2732 4 жыл бұрын
@@johankiwii Yeah exactly. I just wish Mitch would consider how a few more dollars is going to affect his long-term chemistry with his teammates and fans. It won't just be forgotten after he signs... I hope he truly understands the consequences of his actions. Sucks but it's reality. You can't pull this bs and expect every fan to stand by your side afterwards
@ShadowExe007Vageta
@ShadowExe007Vageta 4 жыл бұрын
PuckNerd Fellow Bruins fan, and this is completely accurate about Marner
@canadiancruelty
@canadiancruelty 4 жыл бұрын
this video willed the contract into existance
@derekwalter7100
@derekwalter7100 4 жыл бұрын
No matter what happens, I’ll never buy a box of Marner-O’s.
@jwt6577
@jwt6577 17 күн бұрын
On the bright side, it's 2024 and Marner's contract is still a giant pain in the ass for everyone involved.
@arisbougadis5548
@arisbougadis5548 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my I’ve been waiting for this vid.
@MonkeyworkPlays
@MonkeyworkPlays 4 жыл бұрын
Agent works for mitch ... the father is speaking on behalf of mitch ... end of the day it's MITCH that has to own all of this.
@TheAriadneChannel
@TheAriadneChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Dangle jinx
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I don't know about the idea that all is forgiven when he steps back on the ice. The cap implications of this deal will be big and long lasting. And I mean, if we're being honest, as far as the court of public opinion goes, William Nylander is still paying for his holdout last year.
@clarenceleblanc4920
@clarenceleblanc4920 4 жыл бұрын
I was in the media room at the Bell pratice facility in Borossard yesterday and it's probable a no no to share anything I herd or saw that is not hockey related but here I go: Pierre Lebrun's ring tone is "Little Bones" and this made me strangely happy....
@breakaway2x
@breakaway2x 4 жыл бұрын
I said this a long time ago and nobody believed me. Now you are seeing how right I am. Building a Cup contending team today is different than the past. There is no dynasty. Teams are penalized for drafting and developing well. No team is able to load up on star players because you just won't have enough money to go around when everyone will fight tooth and nail for max money, even if it means blowing up the dream and plan of building a Cup team. Nobody cares about the Cup compared to money. Money comes first. Cup is just icing on the cake. The key to winning a cup in today's NHL is TIMING. You need to have a few stars and sign them to long term contracts and hope they overplay their contracts...look at the Bruins and the Blues...nobody makes over 7.5. Look at MacKinnon in Colorado, arguably the best player in the NHL the last 2 seasons and he's only making 6 million per season over 6 year contract. The Leafs had good value in Kadri and Rielly contracts. That's also why I said when Leafs signed Nylander to 6.9 and everyone was saying overpaid, I was saying they got a great deal, a bargain, a steal. 6.9 looks a lot smaller today than it did 9 months ago, because now we are dealing with 11, 12, 15 million dollar contracts. At this point, IDC anymore who is on our team. As long as we win a Cup is all that matters. So trade Marner and get 4 1st round picks, I'm fine with that. Matthews can go to Arizona in 5 years, whatever. None of it matters. Only thing that matters is timing. Get the right mix of players, old and young, expensive and cheap, seasoned veterans and rookies, and a hot goalie, you can win the cup ANY YEAR.
@whostoleopinionayted
@whostoleopinionayted 4 жыл бұрын
It's not about that he wants more money, he wants to have a mid term contract and would take the same AAV.
@shannonhumber1339
@shannonhumber1339 4 жыл бұрын
Steve! Everyone! The time is now! It's time to break open the Marner jar.
@FMichael1970
@FMichael1970 4 жыл бұрын
So...Am I the only one here thinking Tavares would be a much better option to become Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs? At least we know he'll be in Toronto these next 6 seasons...
@Tizaster
@Tizaster 4 жыл бұрын
Greed is a helluva drug...
@pearldrums92
@pearldrums92 4 жыл бұрын
As an impartial capitals fan I am dying reading these comments... The leafs will never win with 40m tied up in 4 players.
@IHateMyAccountName
@IHateMyAccountName 4 жыл бұрын
Look at St Louis and Boston, one of the top lines is only averaging around 6 million each. The 2 highest paid guys for the Blues are at 7.5, with studs like Parayko recently signing for 5.5 mil. Look at Chara taking a discount. There's a reason these teams were in the final.
@JamesBrownyayaya
@JamesBrownyayaya 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this one first before watching "Marner Re-Signs" because I skipped it expecting a rant, I'm somewhat surprised this was more sensible than what others in the media have said. They were mostly wrong that the two sides were far apart and the 11 mil x 7 was actually closer than they thought.
@bloodstoneian
@bloodstoneian 4 жыл бұрын
Finished watching this just as the notification came inherently signed haha
@ryguy6577
@ryguy6577 4 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised I watched this whole video. I’m so sick of hearing about it but this was refreshing somehow. I don’t cheer for the leafs at all either but still I liked this take and enjoyed the vid thanks Steve
@randysgutful
@randysgutful 4 жыл бұрын
Hell, I'm a fan and couldn't watch the whole thing. I'm sick of it all.
@jacko1129
@jacko1129 4 жыл бұрын
Finally marner is signed. This is next day
@williamgraves8599
@williamgraves8599 4 жыл бұрын
This is making me crazy Steve
@mac0n3
@mac0n3 4 жыл бұрын
Tides are crashing in on Mitch by the fans . He's turning heel .
@maryrowe1616
@maryrowe1616 4 жыл бұрын
Some advice. Don't make yourselves sick over it. The sun will come out tomorrow. Trade Marner to TBL for Point. What fun.
@ericrolls9122
@ericrolls9122 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha after this amazing in depth video of course he signs today lol im dead lol love ya steve!!!! Such a relief!!!! LETS GO LEAFSSSS!!!!!!!
@abbysingh722
@abbysingh722 4 жыл бұрын
i love how mitch got signed the day after steve posted this lolll
@Will-eh6xe
@Will-eh6xe 4 жыл бұрын
if mariner dont want to sign 7-8 years for 11 plus a year then we should let him go and spend the cash on defence and a player who would be more then happy to just play for the leafs not a panzy who just wants to put the leafs in a spot
@JUMBOpin
@JUMBOpin 4 жыл бұрын
Look, a person who thinks! The greatest thing Kyle can do is trade,him for an AHL prospect and that's it. Treat him like he's treating like Kyle, like a shithead.
@derekmcaleer2386
@derekmcaleer2386 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the handshake deal has been done for awhile now. Dubas knows the whole league-wide RFA situation is handcuffed until Marners numbers come out... so he asked everyone to keep quiet... They will sign and officially announce at last possible minute. “Do anything to kick your enemies, just like you’d do anything to help your friends.”
@u2ooby
@u2ooby 4 жыл бұрын
Marner is really just in it for the Money...all his actions are now loud and clear.
@JohnPaul-rx1en
@JohnPaul-rx1en 4 жыл бұрын
Marner has a bad side, he bullied my cousin when he was 14 because they both played on the same team and marner would make him feel like shit basically, there ya go, a bad story about Mitch marner
@TheSwineFlu97
@TheSwineFlu97 4 жыл бұрын
John Paul tbf if this is true everyone is a bit of a dick at 14, you change a lot from 14-20
@SlurpEee25
@SlurpEee25 4 жыл бұрын
No one needs these kinds of dollars. No one. Also, Marner can always tell his agent to accept a deal so let's not pretend he is not to blame.
@madratthemighty
@madratthemighty 4 жыл бұрын
I kind of hope Montreal offer sheets him, it would reinvigorate the rivalry.
@Sebbe40
@Sebbe40 4 жыл бұрын
Oblivion Agreez
@castleview3321
@castleview3321 4 жыл бұрын
The NHL has changed rapidly to a young mans game, it used to be players were done by 35 , now 30 is considered 'old'. I think we're seeing the impact of this now as players aren't prepared to wait until 28-29 for UFA , they want the big bucks now or UFA earlier...
@FMichael1970
@FMichael1970 4 жыл бұрын
While you're right - it's a shame in a way that these 'kids' aren't in the league for more than a few seasons, and they want their big $$$ contract with very limited experience, and not much of a track record.
@jordanschlick387
@jordanschlick387 4 жыл бұрын
Buddy you better be making a video right now
@NESADDICT
@NESADDICT 4 жыл бұрын
It’s outta control
@garthfields3691
@garthfields3691 4 жыл бұрын
trade marner, and with the hate he'll have if he sticks to this path good luck living in the GTA. congrats on the fastest hero to villain transition in a long time
@mrkmixedman
@mrkmixedman 4 жыл бұрын
If it drags into the actual season, I’ll feel okay to trade him away. Don’t want another circus in town and I don’t love him as much anymore. Just want to watch hockey.
@loneraiderable
@loneraiderable 4 жыл бұрын
I would be ok with that, he's a good player but not 116 million good. Thats crazy money, Gordie Howe ? Bobby Orr? He takes a few hits in the playoffs he's done. Just trade him to another team.
@f3wbs
@f3wbs 4 жыл бұрын
People laughed at me when I said back in January Marner is going to want Matthews or Tavares money. This is Nylander all over again.
@tmlfan7785
@tmlfan7785 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Williams Nylander by all accounts was asking for what he got, which honestly isn’t ridiculous compared to Marner
@thricefan89
@thricefan89 4 жыл бұрын
Boo Marner when he signs his 12 aav for 6 years
@Mike-ls8et
@Mike-ls8et 4 жыл бұрын
this aged well
@stewb2004
@stewb2004 4 жыл бұрын
I've literally staying for something to get done or at least progress to be made.please mitch hurry up,I want to sleep good before the season starts
@maryrowe1616
@maryrowe1616 4 жыл бұрын
Love to watch you Steve. So theatrical. I am laughing at all this from a distance. Florida And listening to a Barred owl outside my window. So much drama.
@cunnilingusmessiah9464
@cunnilingusmessiah9464 4 жыл бұрын
BREAKING! Marner signs at 9.5 million a year for a four year contract with a felching stipulation!
@Kryptekah
@Kryptekah 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is starting to get a bald spot
@are3287
@are3287 4 жыл бұрын
Trade Marner for RNH and Nurse so Edmonton can overpay him and become truely a one line team.
@scorpiothegreat1
@scorpiothegreat1 4 жыл бұрын
They should trade him on principle alone.
@2Jim2u
@2Jim2u 4 жыл бұрын
start with your imagined amount for Marner; whether it's 8 or 9 or 10 or more. Now how much of it is his signing bonus because we hear so much about escrow: Tavares got 92% signing bonus Matthews 94% signing bonus Nylander got 54% signing bonus (Nylander received 12 mil last year for 27 points) all the while Marner is watching Nylanders 12 mil pymt. PS Aho received a 91% signing bonus, approx the same percentage as Panarin.
@yealogan3122
@yealogan3122 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@zednik4hart
@zednik4hart 4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: *marner joins the carolina hurricanes*
@nessa-marks
@nessa-marks 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah.
@Magicmeatbag
@Magicmeatbag 4 жыл бұрын
You guys should just trade him for picks and prospects. He would get quite the package.
@DrJFever-gf7zs
@DrJFever-gf7zs 4 жыл бұрын
The old news clip of Paul Marner is hugely telling. Why does wanting the best for your son equal money? That's not what a good parent solely wants.
@winring5593
@winring5593 4 жыл бұрын
This is very similar to the Aho situation, in that the teams are willing to pay more but want the longer term. But “THE HURRICANES DIDN’T WANT TO PAY THEIR STAR” vs. “MARNER IS SELFISH” narratives are very emblematic of elitist attitudes still in hockey
@MuffyCakeMan
@MuffyCakeMan 4 жыл бұрын
Marners dad needs to stay out of the contract talk... 116 million, you're set.
@ryandzur8400
@ryandzur8400 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like he deserves to get booed. Not every game, but his first game back. Fans are pissed and deserve to let him know then move on. I don’t think fans are stupid for that.
@TyD3e
@TyD3e 4 жыл бұрын
Well marner just signed and I hadn't got around to watching this yet
@gordsomers7244
@gordsomers7244 4 жыл бұрын
And next year Barrie will ask for the moon...
@bradtrick2315
@bradtrick2315 4 жыл бұрын
I would be furious with this situation if I was a leafs fan. I was pissed Werenski held out as long as he did. It’s ok to be pissed at a player or an organization.
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