The MCU Timeline book is here...did it answer our biggest questions?

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A bit of Everything

A bit of Everything

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This video looks at whether the new MCU Timeline book answers 20 important questions fans want resolved.
#timeline #marvel #mcu #disneyplus #phase1 #phase2 #phase3 #phase4
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Video series on tricky placements
01:31 - #1: Will D+ timeline end up accurate?
03:01 - #2: Will previous timelines be ignored?
03:57 - #3: Are pre-D+ shows still canon?
08:00 - #4: Are the MCU comic tie-ins still canon?
08:35 - #5: Will we learn the MCU presidents?
09:51 - #6: How will "What If?" be handled?
11:22 - #7: How wlll the Sony movies be handled?
12:24 - #8: What year did Iron Man occur in?
13:10 - #9: What year did Iron Man 3 occur in?
13:41 - #10: What was the timespan was Dr. Strange?
15:10 - #11: Did Captain America travel to a branch?
17:15 - #12: When did Tiamet emerge?
17:50 - #13: When does Ms. Marvel's series start?
18:41 - #14: When does Shang Chi occur?
19:35 - #15: What determines Moon Knights placement?
20:21 - #16: How long before the Wong cage fight vid was released?
21:22 - #17: How long was Thor with the Guardians?
22:01 - #18: When did Werewolf By Night occur?
23:10 - #19: How long after Endgame did T'Challa pass?
22:51 - #20: Will fans agree with the timeline book?

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@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
If you'd like to join the discord server, here is a link: discord.gg/aboeMCU. There are over 800 members so far. Love to have you be part of the conversation!
@Cooper_118
@Cooper_118 8 ай бұрын
I think that 838 and Noir and Spider-Hams universe are all still branches. Noir and Spider-Hams my have just branched when the Big Bang happened and made a universe without color and one with different cartoony laws of physics. In 838 it also may have been something long ago and due to the butterfly effect their universe looks super different
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@Cooper_118Yeah, I agree...anything is possible. I do think that it works abit better if the noir universe or the paint universe have separate big bangs so that the stones can be formed differently. But your idea could work as well. I wonder if they will ever get us a definitive answer on it?
@yudhazacharias9377
@yudhazacharias9377 8 ай бұрын
​@@AbitofEverything4UExcuse me sir, I have a question. The book explains the timeline with a display of the sacred timeline right? Now does the book show a branch, and what projects take place in a branch?
@margarithadamaledo6631
@margarithadamaledo6631 8 ай бұрын
​@@AbitofEverything4Uexcuse me sir. An alternate timeline or a branch timeline is just the same* thing as an alternate universe. Like why do we call an alternate timeline an alternate timeline? Because different events happened there. And why do we call an alternate universe an alternate universe? Because different events happened there too. See, it's just the same thing. Time traveling only creates another universe. Different choices in life do the same thing
@jdmarsh91
@jdmarsh91 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U-As far as I know, none of the Noir universes have messed with the Infinity Stones in any way, about the closer instances would be the fragments of The Tablet of Order and Chaos that Goblin Noir, Vulture Noir and Hammerhead Noir got their hands on in Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions
@kylebrown1640
@kylebrown1640 8 ай бұрын
I quite like the use of Miss Minutes to cheekily address continuity errors. There's a great section where she comments on the infamous eight years later from Homecoming.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...I love Miss Minutes commentary. I suspect she also helped with the She-Hulk re-write of the ending of her series. That section was awesome!
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 8 ай бұрын
can you quote what she says there?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@kikosawaHer quote on Homecoming? Just making sure I know what you want. Happy to get it for you!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@kikosawa Actually, this article covers it, so you may have seen it by now, but just in case: www.ign.com/articles/mcu-timeline-book-officially-retcons-spider-man-homecoming-continuity-error.
@brandonmiller8351
@brandonmiller8351 8 ай бұрын
Always a great time watching your videos.
@JulianRog
@JulianRog 8 ай бұрын
I’m so happy that Marvel finally made everything in the timeline clear, and that Disney+ finally has everything 100% accurate and are willing to change it if they find something is wrong
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Well said! I am so happy to have the book and I love that D+ turned out to be accurate, after fixing Shang Chi. All is well with the world now!
@joeyglusky4774
@joeyglusky4774 8 ай бұрын
I love how there are different colored branches to represent different points in time and that Endgame didn’t exactly break the sacred timeline yet!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the book is really done well! Love it!
@grecia_gs
@grecia_gs 8 ай бұрын
I'm so happy that after waiting so much we have a Timeline book, but now we also need a multiverse book 😂 I was surprised to see Miss Minutes in the book, it's almost like the TVA wrote the book 😳 I really loveeee your breakdown timeline/book videos, thank you for doing them 😊
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...I'm so happy to finally have the official timeline...but yeah...I'm greedy...now I want the entire multiverse in the next one...lol! And yeah, Ms. Minutes was a real surprise in the book. Made it alot of fun to read!
@connorlanham4459
@connorlanham4459 8 ай бұрын
I was really hoping they would touch upon who the Presidents are in the MCU timeline officially. I feel like Marvel Studios deems that situation not necessary due to it not being a major focus. They really try to avoid politics in this.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point...yes, they do indeed try to avoid politics. But I also agree that I wish they would include the list of presidents as it's such an important aspect of the MCU. Maybe one day they will tell us all the presidents, especially those during the blip!
@connorlanham4459
@connorlanham4459 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U Totally agree with you on that 💯. I guess in the mean time we’ll have to follow what’s on the official wiki list for now.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Agreed...I think that's as good as we are going to get for now!
@TrumbullComic
@TrumbullComic 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I could see a lot of people getting bent out of shape if they officially said, "No, Obama didn't have a second term in the MCU" or "No, Donald Trump was never President in the MCU," even though that's what the evidence suggests. It's probably best to just avoid the issue altogether in official documents like this.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@TrumbullComic Good points. For me, I don't care either way who is president, but I do think it would be fun to know if the current president was blipped in 2018 and if so, how they picked a new one. Stuff like that fascinates me.
@Zenlore6499
@Zenlore6499 8 ай бұрын
I tend to go with what is official canon, so I feel pretty good about most of this. Sad to see that the comics, Sony movies, and the old shows are brushed under the rug, but I figure there would be extra hoops to jump through so they stuck with Marvel Studios projects only. Bit of a bummer, but I’m glad to have what we got!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Well said...I'd have loved to have everything in there, but I'm still really happy with what we go. The book is amazing!
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 8 ай бұрын
To quote Deadpool, "These timelines are so confusing" 🤣🤣
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL! And ironically, DP will be making them even more confusing with his shenanigans!
@elicortez446
@elicortez446 8 ай бұрын
14:34; we’ll he needed time to heal after 2/2/16. He didn’t just break his hands, he got all those cuts, and other injuries that required lots of time to heal. Then, he had to go to physical therapy. Then he tried various experimental and expensive surgeries that essentially drained him of his money. So yeah, seems like a pretty long time. Great video, as always!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good comments...yeah, that makes alot of sense. Means he really did slowly drain all his money...kinda makes it even more impactful to view it that way, tbh!
@elicortez446
@elicortez446 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U, yup, he literally left his money, drained himself of material possessions and found enlightenment, if you will. I guess as Wong said in Infinity War: “attachment to the material, is detachment from the spiritual.”
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, you gotta feel bad for him, even if it was his vanity that got him into the accident in the first place. Wild!
@elicortez446
@elicortez446 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U , he’s saved countless lives, and even though he’s and arrogant prick, his good deeds often outweighed his bad ones.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yep...his life really turned around and now he's helped safe 1/2 of the universe!
@davidthewhale7556
@davidthewhale7556 8 ай бұрын
I wish they clarified how the multiverse works exactly. Like what’s the difference between timelines, branches and universes? Also how Loki, Spider-Man NWH and DrStrange MoM fit together because it seems like they all have differences in how the multiverse works in them
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree...I really want them to go into detail on that. If you haven't see it yet, I did a video about my current theories on universes vs. timelines, in case you are interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdWZp7GFmdupc4k.html. If you watch it, let me know what you think!
@Lanosrep
@Lanosrep 8 ай бұрын
For months we all said that if the TV shows weren't in this book, they weren't canon. Now we've got the book, we know the shows aren't in it, and we're still hesitating to make a judgement. I think we can't keep pushing the line for MTV recognition. The last time Kevin Feige acknowledged them as canon was when his boss was Perlmutter, and he simply had to accept the television shows as they were because he had no input in them. That's changed now, and it's clear that if anything from those shows are in the new MCU, it will be an invention
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, I agree. I think the writing is on the wall and that the shows are in a branched timeline. But I also can't figure out why Feige won't just say "Agents of SHIELD is in a branch". Would be so nice to end any discussion on it. I've already see alot of fans that are finding ways to make his quotes actually mean AoS is in the sacred timeline, so I think Feige is being vague on purpose, tbh. Anyway, I tend to agree with your assessment, and as long as Quake can return in Secret Wars, I'm okay with wherever Feige decides the show should land. Excellent feedback on the vid. Thx so much for sharing your thoughts on it!
@ArynWellspring
@ArynWellspring 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4UAnd the Extremis incident had already happened prior to season 1 of Agents of SHIELD, and Thor the Dark World happens sometime around episode 11, so this timeline where Iron Man 3 takes place after that film already makes AoS impossible to be canon
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@ArynWellspringGreat question...I thought the same as well. However, check out this vid where I explain how Dec, 2013 works well for Agents of SHIELD, even if at first glance it seems to be an issue: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMyboMZnssy9ZoE.html.
@masterpankace9
@masterpankace9 8 ай бұрын
Great job my guy this book is really exiting, I'm glad you're making vids on it!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...it's such an awesome book. Marvel really knocked it out of the park!
@ericbaymusic
@ericbaymusic 8 ай бұрын
Love this channel and the effort/enthusiasm you put into each video :) I think once Deadpool is introduced they should do a series of shorts called ‘Loose Ends’, where Deadpool kills every character in the MCU they have no intention of returning to (like 616’s Baron Mordo, Scorpion from Homecoming etc)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL! That would be an epic way to use Deadpool!
@Blazecap
@Blazecap 8 ай бұрын
I ultimately think it being canon if only in a multiverse sense(and not to the sacred timeline) is better than not being canon at all. I don’t think they want to say it’s all canon because a common complaint for the D+ show is that they feel like homework. Now imagine adding 5+ show with multiple seasons may be a bit overwhelming to the average viewer. Their good but it’s still a lot for ask for a lot of people. Idk. TLDR; watch them because it’s fun cannon or not.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yep...I think you nailed it. Feige wants them to be a branch off the sacred timeline to still allow them to be canon to the overall multiverse and thus be able to appear in a movie like Secret Wars down the line, but doesn't want them canon to the Sacred Timeline so that he is free to tell future stories w/o having those pre-D+ shows restricting what direction he wants to go. Excellent feedback!
@mrmadfunny5507
@mrmadfunny5507 8 ай бұрын
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
My full video on the timeline book is coming soon...hopefully in the next few days. Thx so much for the positive feedback!
@teddybay1555
@teddybay1555 8 ай бұрын
I just want to fast forward to 5 years from now to see how much the MCU evolved
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it will be really cool to see how things have changed in 5 years!
@roliv16
@roliv16 8 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to get this book myself, I’m glad it appears that there is some kind of plan.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I think the book is amazing. You'll love it!
@eternalvariant
@eternalvariant 8 ай бұрын
i like that you guys are so still supportive about all the other shows 🤣 AOS fans are very dedicated
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Agreed...AoS fans love those shows...as do I. In the end, I don't care as much if they are on the sacred timeline or in a branch, but I do understand that for many fans, that is an incredibly important detail. Either way, I just love that show, as well as many of the other pre-D+ shows!
@jonbonart7191
@jonbonart7191 8 ай бұрын
The video I've been waiting for!!! Thanks for your hard work!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@skinz1993
@skinz1993 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this!!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Such a great book. So impressed with all the work that was put into it!
@isacctavares1368
@isacctavares1368 8 ай бұрын
I got to get this. Definitely a Christmas gift. Glad we have clarity on the timeline. I hope theres a volume 2 that puts the Fox Xmen/ Fox Fantastic 4, Sony Spidermen timelines, and see how all those movies fit once we get to Secret Wars. Because they are technically "Canon" to the MCU. Great video. To me, the Netflix shows will always be canon. They fit in to well.
@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M
@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M 8 ай бұрын
They fit but Marvel's studios doesn't want to acknowledge them like they didn't exist in the MCU.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
It's an excellent Christmas gift. Such an amazing book. I agree, I hope future versions do indeed include the multiverse films (Xmen/FF/Sony). And yeah, it's hard to imagine how the Netflix shows aren't canon...nice call on that. They are such good stories and fit in perfectly with the MCU!
@WhiteRaven696
@WhiteRaven696 8 ай бұрын
While I will definitely cry about the continued ambiguity towards Marvel Television, at least Fury’s Big Week was further canonized, which gives me hope for other supplemental materials.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good point! Yes, it was great to have FBW officially canonized. That was awesome to see!
@jayguero2123
@jayguero2123 8 ай бұрын
Once people understand the behind the scenes aspect of these productions, you’ll understand most of those television shows were shoehorned in because of studio mandates from Marvel Entertainment at the time which didn’t necessarily align with Marvel Studios’ vision. Remember, this was before Marvel Studios was spun off from ME in 2016 after Kevin Feige (reportedly) threatened to leave Marvel when he wasn’t getting along with Ike Pearlmutter. Past that point, you’ll notice a lot of the canon between movies and TV really didn’t begin to align themselves. Notably, the rules of time travel between Agents of Shield and Avengers Endgame.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@jayguero2123Excellent commentary on the situation. I agree, that was likely the heart of the issue!
@waltascher
@waltascher 8 ай бұрын
Fury’s Big Week being canonized is one of my biggest gripes with this book, personally. The dates given in the movies just don’t support it, and even if Iron Man 2 and Thor overlap (which I know is the intention, but it’s far from ironclad), there’s no reason that The Incredible Hulk must also take place during the same timeframe.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@waltascherI can understand your feelings on it. But If you haven't seen my video on the reasoning for Iron Man 1's placement, as well as Fury's Big Week, you might enjoy it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9-PdKty3ruVmaM.html. As for Incredible Hulk, the reason it happens during IM 2 is you can see Tony watching in real time the battle at Culver near the end of the movie. So I think Marvel has always intended the three movies to coincide. They even released a comic book tie in that came out around that time and further cemented the three movies happening at the same time. Anyway, hope that helps. Thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@mattyboyb523
@mattyboyb523 8 ай бұрын
Wow this is really great stuff !! You really do put in a lot of time to understand the nitty gritty of the MCU. Very pleased to have come across your channel. With my way of following you tube videos I listen I really don’t watch them. I have my ear buds in and I’m working (with with my business for about 2 or 3 hours a day or while doing yard work or whatever) & your videos are great for that. Thank you
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words and positive feedback. I agree, the vids are kinda like a pod cast in a way. Glad you can listen to them while doing tasks and such!
@Marvelord1
@Marvelord1 8 ай бұрын
oh wow ive been waiting for this video 👀im so happy its out!!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
The book is so amazing...kudos to Marvel for pulling it off so well!
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 8 ай бұрын
Good video. It's great the Disney+ timeline adapted itself a bit to go inline with the book. Honestly I expected Werewolf By N. to happen in the past, maybe not a distant one because they have some sort of morden tech, but didn't expect it to happen in 2025... I don't know what will happen to the canon of the Marvel Netflix shows, but AofS is probably just in a different timeline to the sacred timeline. Not only they keep ignoring what happen in the show, Ms Marvel closed the door to inhumans in 616 universe I guess and Secret Invasion was a great oportunity to bring the agents back but in the show isn't clear if SHIELD is a thing in the present.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...nice to see D+ updating their timeline. And WbN was abit of a surprise...although Miss Minutes made it sound like it could be happening anytime with her cheeky comment. And yeah, sure seems AoS is in a branched timeline off the Sacred Timeline. And in the end, I'm fine with that, as long as Quake can appear for Secret Wars. That's my hope, at least!
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 8 ай бұрын
I will find it funny if Kang was the author
@kkplaysgd
@kkplaysgd 8 ай бұрын
Well thought 😂 There's just one problem, if that was the case, the book would end on Loki S1E6.
@marcuselvard5922
@marcuselvard5922 8 ай бұрын
My exact thoughts 😂😂
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01
@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01 8 ай бұрын
@@marcuselvard5922or he who remains
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL...that would be awesome!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@kkplaysgdGood point! LOL!
@zechariahdavid5199
@zechariahdavid5199 8 ай бұрын
Most chill and sane Marvel video creator. Definitely a sub
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Really appreciate the positive feedback and the support for the channel!
@johnataoliveira1064
@johnataoliveira1064 8 ай бұрын
I love ur vids they are so helpful!! Keep it up!!! ❤
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@hunterterrell5735
@hunterterrell5735 8 ай бұрын
You, my friend, had single handely made me very hyped for the book. I can't wait to get a copy
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
It's such a great book. You'll love it!
@jasonreidy6893
@jasonreidy6893 8 ай бұрын
Kevin Feige said recently that all movies and shows made by other companies ARE CANON to the MCU MULTIVERSE
@Cris00900340
@Cris00900340 8 ай бұрын
I feel like we already knew that
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 8 ай бұрын
There is no MCU Multiverse only Marvel Multiverse.
@ant-man9018
@ant-man9018 8 ай бұрын
MCU or MCM, pick one. Cuz MCUM (Marvel Cinematic Universe Multiverse) sounds wack.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Right...the good thing that the book establishes is that the pre-D+ shows and also the Fox and Sony movies are all canon to the greater multiverse. Love that!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
​@@Cris00900340 Yep...it was certainly implied. ig it's nice that Feige has said it clearly now, but I agree, it really had to be the case for movies like NWH to work and for DP 3 to work, etc.
@tyler_traveler
@tyler_traveler 8 ай бұрын
Been watching your timeline breakdowns, I love that you basically predicted everything that the timeline book established! Fantastic review, hoping to get my hands on this book! 😍
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, the book is great. It's everything I'd hoped it would be. They did a fantastic job with it!
@pokken564
@pokken564 8 ай бұрын
Love the prediction video you did, excited to see if you’ll do a vid discussing what you got wrong or the interesting choices they made. Keep up the good work!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
You nailed it. I will indeed go thru the specific timeline details of the book and the interesting choices they made. As for my personal timeline errors: - I had Iron Man in 2009 (I trusted the 6 months later line in IM 2...drat!) - I had Iron Man 3 in 2012 (based on the 13 years later than Dec, 2012 line) - I had Winter Soldier in Jan, 2014 rather than Spring, 2014 (due to AoS timing) - I had Shang Chi in July, 2024 rather than Apr, 2024 (due to D+ timeline) - I had had Thor in May, 2025 rather than Oct, 2025 (to cut down on his time with the Guardians, and to make Oct, 2025 be Korg's retelling of the movie) So I followed the D+ timeline order to a T, but still got a few things wrong in predicting the exact months of some entries. I will say, however, I was one of the very few on the planet that trusted the D+ timeline and I'm glad it was correct (other than Shang Chi). Love the new timeline book and I'm so happy Marvel has officially given us the answers to our key questions about the timeline!
@SuperCeleste007
@SuperCeleste007 8 ай бұрын
Makes sense. They went with the coloured version because that’s the one that’s canon.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it does seem that the color version is the canon version. Good point!
@theorycraftingmachine2876
@theorycraftingmachine2876 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the book, my copy came today! Watching your videos is always a highlight of my week, keep up the good work.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Sweet! So glad you received it. Yeah, it's an amazing book and I'm so glad you won. Thx for all your awesome support of the channel!
@theorycraftingmachine2876
@theorycraftingmachine2876 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U During the Timeline book Miss Minutes says, "Given the fluidity of time and space, and the infinite expansion of the Multiverse-and our paperwork-we're always playing catch-up, so we appreciate y'all's patience and understanding! Maybe we'll get to the rest of it someday. Until then, sit back and enjoy!" Also Kevin Feige says, "On the Multiverse note, we recognize that there are stories-movies and series-that are canonical to Marvel but were created by different storytellers during different periods of Marvel's history. The timeline presented in this book is specific to the MCU's Sacred Timeline through Phase 4. But, as we move forward and dive deeper into the Multiverse Saga, you never know when timelines may just crash or converge (hint, hint ? spoiler alert)." These quotes proves that there will be a sequel book to The Marvel Cinematic Universe An Official Timeline, which will most likely contain and pick up where the Disney+ Timeline placed Loki Season 2 which takes place simultaneously with the events of Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania which takes place during Summer 2026, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 which takes place during Summer 2026, Secret Invasion Season 1 which takes place during Fall 2026, then I think that The Marvels takes place during Spring 2027, also it will include Echo Season 1, Captain America Brave New World, Deadpool 3, Agatha Darkhold Diaries Season 1, Spider-Man Freshman Year Season 1, Thunderbolts, Daredevil Born Again Season 1, Blade, Fantastic Four, Ironheart Season 1, Armor Wars, Marvel Zombies Season 1, Avengers The Kang Dynasty & Avengers Secret Wars, I also believe that the next Timeline book will come out on Amazon for sale sometime during the summer of 2027!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Agreed...can't wait for the update!
@supersaiyanjalil
@supersaiyanjalil 8 ай бұрын
Finally I've been waiting for you to get your hands on this
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Such a great book. And my next vid will be a detailed dive into the full timeline. Should be fun!
@tylermuchos8800
@tylermuchos8800 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video, loved the questions you posed
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I felt those were some of the key questions I wanted from the book. Really happy with how the book turned out!
@ChillingTruths
@ChillingTruths 8 ай бұрын
I'm confident that the What If? Entry once again confirms that it's all multiverse and there's no complicated timeline shenanigans. Nothing changes after Loki, it's always been multiverse. It all makes sense when you accept that these "branches" are just universes straying from the desired timeline of the TVA. There's no contradictions, no logical gaps, no paradoxes, no complicated timeline magic that causes constant confusion with every new bit of information. At 10:27 you can't confidently state that Loki causes new timelines and NOT universes, there's no evidence for that other than an interchangeable word, timeline/universe. I beg of you to find me something official that debunks the idea that it's all just multiverse. and NOT just someone referring to a universe as a timeline, that happens all the time, they're interchangeable. That's the whole point, except a timeline IS A universe, it is NOT a mystical meta-physical thing that does and does not exist at the same time and eventually turns into a universe. It is just the descriptive term for a universe, or a set of universes that follow the same series of events. Just to be extra clear, if you want to debunk it and take what I'm saying in good faith, and consider that your interpretation may be wrong, then look at anything you find about timelines and just swap it with the word universe, and see if it still fits within my multiverse theory. It's so much more simple, and has no evidence against it.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Great feedback. In answer to your question about timelines and universes, for me, the quote from Waldron in the MoM Assembled episode is key. He wrote both Loki and MoM and he said: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." So he's distinguishing between the timelines in Loki and the universes the multiverse. In particular, only America can jump between universes. So it seems there is a difference. But I agree, Marvel really needs to do alot more to explain those differences. Hopefully it will happen during Loki Season 2!
@scarletwitch616
@scarletwitch616 8 ай бұрын
For me i personally don't think the pre disney plus shows aren't canon to MCU timeline but will probably be referenced via the multiverse
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 8 ай бұрын
They are canon it's literally a fact. The real question is will it remain canon?
@scarletwitch616
@scarletwitch616 8 ай бұрын
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 literally not in the book or disney plus timeline so not canon but you can believe whatever fan fiction you'd like
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 8 ай бұрын
@@scarletwitch616 K.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Right...the book makes them canon to the greater MCU by being a branch off of the Sacred Timeline. So they can therefore return to be in Secret Wars in the future!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 Right...the book seems to make them canon to the greater MCU by being a branch off of the Sacred Timeline. So they can therefore return to be in Secret Wars in the future, which is great!
@IFledFromKansas
@IFledFromKansas 8 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Ima sub.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your support! I truly appreciate it!
@aidanlowrance1528
@aidanlowrance1528 8 ай бұрын
I still cannot comprehend you only having 10k subscribers. I subscribed around 5-6k. Your MCU commentary and questions makes me consistently come back and check if a new video has dropped. I have recommended this channel to all of my friends and family who are MCU fans. Keep up the good work man!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Wow...thanks so much for the kind words. I love the MCU and thus love making videos about it. Really appreciate your support for the support of the channel. That means alot to me!
@BigBaldandBeardiful
@BigBaldandBeardiful 8 ай бұрын
Have you had a chance to check out Werewolf by Night in Color yet? I'd be interested in seeing if you picked out any extra details from it now that color is highlighting things. For instance I noticed how Elsa has a strip of hair highlighted red. We couldn't see this in the original black and white version (or at least I didn't notice it on her when the color faded in at the end.) So that would be a cool video showing details we missed now that Werewolf by Night in Color has released.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
That's a cool idea! If I see enough to make a vid on it, I'll definitely do it. Excellent suggestion!
@amf0078
@amf0078 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s clear Agents of shield and Daredevil are a branch timeline that’s very similar to the main mcu
@prsleepy1152
@prsleepy1152 8 ай бұрын
They have to be branch timelines that’s the best way to explain it
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 8 ай бұрын
​@@prsleepy1152 No it doesn't.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yep, I do think that's what Feige is saying in his forward.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@prsleepy1152 Yeah, at this point, I tend to agree. It sure seems the direction Feige is going.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 As a huge fan of Agents of SHIELD, I'm bummed by this direction, but I does seem to be what Feige is indicating. Maybe one day we'll get a very clear answer, as I agree, this wasn't as clear as I would have hoped.
@Herokalla
@Herokalla 7 ай бұрын
I am loving these mcu videos by you, cant believe youre not one of the big breakdown channels, I really wish I woulda been watching you back when WandaVison came out
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words and positive feedback. I really appreciate it!
@alexgonzalez-fn9jb
@alexgonzalez-fn9jb 8 ай бұрын
The shield part is probably the easiest to answer lol. They just reconstructed it. Thought it was a no-brainer
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Right...that is the perfect answer as long as Steve went to a branched reality (which is what I hope happened). But if he went back to live in the Sacred Timeline, it gets alot trickier. He would have to be basically hiding from everyone in that case, so I don't see how he would get the new shield. I really do hope Marvel gives us a firm answer one day. Thx so much for watching the vid and leaving your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@CaptHayfever
@CaptHayfever 8 ай бұрын
#1: That they waited until *today* to change the D+ timeline is pretty messed up (the Shang-Chi mistake was still there when the sequence of the book leaked a couple months ago, which means they should've known about _before_ then, but there was no change then either). #3: Like you said, this book is about the Marvel _Studios_ output. And you mentioned "A Funny Thing" is missing; what about the other one-shots, and I Am Groot? (Feige is also playing fast-&-loose with the term "sacred timeline", which is used here differently than it is in Loki.) I agree that it should take a crystal clear declaration to remove the old shows, since he originally *made* crystal clear statements that AoS was in the MCU (m5e39EbGc1w&t=56s) and that the Defenders Saga took place in the same continuity as the films as well (NYnQnNerddA&t=1095s). #12: It was so obviously fall (whether 2023 or 2024) that it was utterly baffling when the writers said it took place near the time of Falcon & Winter Soldier. #15: The April 2025 placement actually still works with the moon phases; Geekritique confirmed that. The bigger issue is that it's thematically tied to Love & Thunder.... #17: ....which really *should* be June 2024, not because of his time with the Guardians, but because of the *very* precise statement on how long it had been since Thor & Jane broke up.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Excellent feedback! #1: I suspect they waited to switch the order of Shang Chi to time it with the release of the book to really stress that the D+ timeline has always been meant to be official and in sync with the book. Granted, if it was my call, I'd have switched it awhile ago, but ig they wanted to do it with a dramatic flair of the book reveal. #3: I am Groot is actually in there (very cool!) as well as the other One-Shots. So they just missed missed the Funny Thing one-shot. Perhaps due to it having no other super-heroes in it so it wasn't worth mentioning? Still, very strange. But yeah, as I said in the video, I consider the pre-D+ shows canon to the Sacred Timeline until Feige is crystal clear that they aren't. #12: I think the writers said it took place around the timing of FFH, but still, that was in July, which was silly. I agree, has to be in the late fall. #15: The moon phases do work in April, 2025, but not as perfectly as in June, 2024. Also, the fact that Diab said that Marvel went with a different timeline placement than he originally had in mind is what made people think it had to be June, 2024. #17: I admit, I've never understood why people don't feel the break-up works 8 years, 7 months, and 6 days before Oct, 2025. I did a video on it where I mention why I think a break-up in early 2017 works perfectly. So I think both L&T and MK work well in 2025 and still have the Gorr implied cross-over. Again, thanks for all your awesome feedback. Really appreciate it!
@CaptHayfever
@CaptHayfever 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U #1: Regardless of the intention, it comes across less as "dramatic flair" & more as "somebody who works on the menu layout just opened the book this morning for the first time & realized they had to hurry to fix the playlist." #17: Because a breakup anytime after spring 2016 means that (a) Thor should already know the Avengers dissolved, but both Ragnarok & Infinity War suggest that he did not, and (b) the Avengers themselves should've known where Thor was at the time of Civil War, but Thunderbolt Ross's comments in that movie suggest they did not.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
#1: Yeah, I agree, it's a weird situation #17: Keep in mind that Thor did return at the beginning of Ragnarok and talked to people on the street (who did bring up his break-up with Jane but not the Avengers) as well as Dr. Strange (who also didn't mention it). So I suspect Jane didn't mention it either. At this point in their relationship, they were barely speaking to each other and were fighting alot. As for the Avengers, they had no way to reach him if he was just popping in for a quick date and then leaving. The L&T narration made it sound that near the end of their dating, Thor was on earth briefly and then leaving.
@proximashining776
@proximashining776 8 ай бұрын
So if the What if episodes take place in separate universes and at the same time those universes are all branches of the Sacred Timeline... That would mean that "timeline" and "universe" are just two different words for the same thing. Timeline= universe.
@darwinfernandez8069
@darwinfernandez8069 8 ай бұрын
They’re not branches. They’re just a universe that were identical up until a certain point but they don’t stem from the same universe. They just played out the same until a certain event then it became what if.
@gabebartlett9680
@gabebartlett9680 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@darwinfernandez8069Yeah I just consider What If, Parallel Universes Nearly the same in makeup and frequency, but different/distinct enough to where they are separate from each other
@ChillingTruths
@ChillingTruths 8 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. I've been saying this since Loki season 1. It's all multiverse. The Sacred Timeline is what remains of the multiverse, they constantly interchange universe and timeline, even in the OFFICIAL book. You can't read their official reference to these universes branching away from the "Sacred Timeline" and STILL deny that they're universes. Every instance of "time travel" in Endgame and Loki is exactly the same as universal travel. They're just travelling to older and younger universes. There's so many people that refuse to accept this. They pick and choose which bits of "official" quotes they like and completely ignore the parts that literally spell it out. It's a bizarre cognitive dissonance. Michael Waldron said in an interview with ScreenScrush "Oh, you know what? Time travel basically is the multiverse." years ago, and people will ignore that part of the interview, and quote another part where he says timeline, as proof that they're different. If you go with the multiverse theory, that the Sacred Timeline is just the multiverse forced into the TVA's desires, and that when they "time travel" in Endgame and Loki, they're just travelling to different universes, it causes no contradictions, no paradoxes, no complicated mystical logic about timelines "eventually" turning into universes after a certain point and a bunch of other silly ideas. It all just works. I've never seen any solid argument against it other than people just repeating their wrong ideas about timelines not being universes.
@darwinfernandez8069
@darwinfernandez8069 8 ай бұрын
@@ChillingTruths okay so one thing I’d correct is that the sacred timeline isn’t what remains of the multiverse. The sacred timeline is *isolated* from the rest of the multiverse. Endgame time travel isn’t universal travel. They’re traveling to alternate timelines but those timelines are part of the sacred timeline aka our timeline. All these timeline weave together making our timeline so yes they travel to other timelines but no they never leave our universe. If they were to travel to a branch that didn’t originate from 616 then yes they’d travel to not just another timeline but another universe. Endgame visited 616.1 616.2 616.3 but it was still 616. Every episode of What if on the other hand may seem like 616 but is really 617, 618, 619 no matter how similar it may be it’s a completely different universe.
@ChillingTruths
@ChillingTruths 8 ай бұрын
@@darwinfernandez8069 that's your theory, not something you can correct me on. Instead of repeating theories I've heard over and over, just explain to me why you insist on calling these universes timelines, and what the significant difference is. He who remains literally says he brought peace by reorganizing the multiverse into a single timeline. Timeline meaning, set of events. Not mystical magical timeline that is exactly the same as a universe but we don't call it a universe because reasons. Find one flaw in my theory, and telling me that you call universes timelines isn't a flaw. Especially if the fundamental existence behind both of them can be described in the exact same way.
@brandonmiller8351
@brandonmiller8351 8 ай бұрын
Always a great time watching your videos
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@kattheartist978
@kattheartist978 8 ай бұрын
I just imagine he who remains sitting at his desk watching the timeline and every time something interesting branches out (Spiderman-Storys, Agents of Shield etc.) he tells the TVA to let it go, grabs a bucket of popcorn and binges the whole thing before integrating it in the timeline the way he wants. He has nothing else to do so he might a well enjoy the stuff we enjoy.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
LOL! That's a hilarious visual...I love the idea of HWR just chillin' and watching the MCU movies play out!
@Twoupyyy
@Twoupyyy 8 ай бұрын
i personally think universes and timelines are in bubbles, universes are each unique in ways where changes differ majorly, impacting the entire flow of that 'universes' future and timeline, where as timelines are changes in that universe that would still lead to similar enough if not the same future events as the universe the timeline branches from, thus being in a bubble. i feel that also sticks perfectly to what he who remains did, and cut off all other timelines/universes from his own, he kept his own bubble off on its own, so the only timelines that branched in the "sacred timeline" would lead to the same major future events in time. (for example thanos or specifically what he who remained cut off for, no kangs) the sacred timeline going haywire at the end of Loki S1 i feel has that slow overtime effect that just seems sudden, like small events over years or centuries on one timeline cause it to split and grow in all different directions, but looking at the timeline as the blew threads it is, makes it seem like it just suddenly splits from one major event instead of each timeline changing bit by bit, one by one overtime slowly until they would converge with another "universes" splitting timelines, thus creating that connection between timelines/universes needed for kangs or more to become active in "our" timeline thats my personal belief of the mcu multiverse and "timelines", hope it makes sense!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I think what you said makes alot of sense. I do think there is some type of difference between two unconnected universes vs. the branched timelines coming off each universe. And I think that's what you are saying, if I'm reading it right. The reason I make a distinction between those two things is based on Waldron's quote in the Multiverse of Madness Assembled episode. He said: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." For America Chavez's powers to have any meaning, it seems that universes are disconnected from each other (and only she can jump between them) while timelines are branched off each universe and it's possible to jump between them. Anyway, I think we are saying the same thing. Really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts. Thanks so much!
@stergiosbousvys8008
@stergiosbousvys8008 8 ай бұрын
you know your timeline is confusing when you release a whole book to explain it😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, you could definitely view it that way. But lots of popular genres have published timeline books. Star Wars has a really nice timeline book, as well as Star Trek. So it made sense for Marvel to do it too, considering they have 30 movies, 8 shows, several one-shots and specials, and lots of flashbacks. It's cool to see it all fit together so well!
@jdmarsh91
@jdmarsh91 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I hope they d a massive book after Avengers: Secret Wars and go through EVERYTHING Marvel, definitive declare what is and isn't canon
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Agreed...that would be so epic!
@Mccpotinc
@Mccpotinc 8 ай бұрын
Finally I’ve been waiting on this book to come out and you to break down the timeline you’re the best at what you do
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can't wait to do the bigger breakdown of the entire timeline!
@Mccpotinc
@Mccpotinc 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U we’ll be eagerly waiting for the video to drop
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@patricke0n
@patricke0n 8 ай бұрын
Old ass steve shows up to the Wakandans a year before infinity war. Maybe he even introduced himself to them in private years ago. Anyways, he asks for a shield, because the world is gonna need a captain america, and he wants to give it to falcon. They make him a shield and then he waits, gives the shield to Sam, heads up to the moon.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yep...I could actually see all of that happening. Okay, I'm down for that!
@F0CKSTR0T
@F0CKSTR0T 8 ай бұрын
By mere nature of Steve going back in time with Peggy makes that a branched timeline.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree 100% on that!
@SuperCeleste007
@SuperCeleste007 8 ай бұрын
Also nice finally hearing the book mentioned the years that we know the movies were set, but haven’t been mentioned
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Agreed...that is soooo nice!
@squidlickersteven2733
@squidlickersteven2733 8 ай бұрын
Super excited for this one... you've hyped this book up a lot
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the book is amazing...you'll love it!
@luisbracht4345
@luisbracht4345 8 ай бұрын
Nice breakdown again :)
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@Joseph-tc8nk
@Joseph-tc8nk 8 ай бұрын
Great video! 👍
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@ideanaskarzadeh9145
@ideanaskarzadeh9145 8 ай бұрын
15:10 My favorite theory is that old cap has actually already lived through the events of secret wars and the shield is what he used during that time. Then after SW he goes back to that point in endgame and gives Sam the shield. I hope that’s true lol
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Okay, now that would be wild!
@BullyHemsworth
@BullyHemsworth 8 ай бұрын
oh dang that's a good one
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
@@BullyHemsworthIndeed!
@JuanRamirez-rr1iu
@JuanRamirez-rr1iu 8 ай бұрын
Great video! The new book seems like it will clarify some events but still leave some questions unanswered. Still excited to check it out.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...it's a fantastic book. Definitely worth the purchase. Ofc, I'd love if it answered all of the questions definitively, but it's still an amazing book with so much awesome detail. Chefs kiss to Marvel for all their work on it!
@Loosetext
@Loosetext 8 ай бұрын
Let’s go!!!!! Have been waiting forever as well
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Such a great book. The next vid I do on it will be a deep dive into each event covered in the book in timeline order. Should be alot of fun!
@Loosetext
@Loosetext 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful idea! Definitely looking forward to that!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks...should be fun!
@TheMarioAdams
@TheMarioAdams 8 ай бұрын
I think timelines and universes are the same thing. It’s just easier to think of them that way. Marvel themselves seem to be using the terms interchangeably. You mentioned how u don’t think 838 is a branch but I think it is as well as all the other pre-MCU marvel movie universes. The explanation is that the branch happened a lot further back in time and branched perhaps 100s of times subsequently creating a vastly different universe to 616. Say for example a branch occurred in 1568 and kept branching and branching and branching; who knows how different technology, cityscapes, society etc would look by the year 2015 for example? Also i think that accounts for vastly different looking variants or variants being born at different times like with Peter Parker
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Great feedback on the vid. I agree, Marvel really needs to give us a specific model of what the multiverse looks like. But I do think Waldron's quote from the MoM Assembled episode is very important: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." He of course wrote both Loki and MoM, so he understands how both worked, and he seems to indicates that Loki was dealing with one universe (616) and branched timelines off of it, while 838 was a separate and disconnected universe. If there isn't a distinction between the timeline branches off of 616 and the disconnected 838 universe, then America's powers seem to be meaningless. So yeah, I hope Marvel continues to explain how all of this fits together. And I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@Mr.celaphane
@Mr.celaphane 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad I found this channel. You have answers I've been looking for😂😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback!
@Mr.celaphane
@Mr.celaphane 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U Anytime. The videos are great! I listen to them while I work👍
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
That's so cool to hear that. Glad I can make the day pass a little faster!
@lifewithmace2338
@lifewithmace2338 8 ай бұрын
this video needs to go viral
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback. Had alot of fun making it!
@josen1223
@josen1223 8 ай бұрын
Very nice recap!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@The_Surf
@The_Surf 8 ай бұрын
Wow, the fact they put Shang-Chi before TFATWS is actually awesome!
@The_Surf
@The_Surf 8 ай бұрын
I think that each branched timeline can be referred to as its own universe, just anchored by the first timeline of that specific universe.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? The Shang-Chi correction was a a surprising, but welcome, turn of events. Also, I agree with you...a branched timeline is indeed a universe. The trick is there needs to be a term for two disconnected universes vs. two universes that are anchored by a branch. I do wish Marvel would come up with some specific terms that describe the multiverse abit better. Otherwise, it's hard to know what they are discussing at any given time.
@ramihajyounesmontoya5194
@ramihajyounesmontoya5194 8 ай бұрын
I think from all this, my only gripe with the timeline is old Captain America. Only an hour and a half before we see him, we see Prof. Hulk talking about how traveling back to the past does not change their current present yet here we are. I do remember reading somewhere that the decision for old Cap's appearance was more of an emotional decision than a rational one so it can work out if they don't bring him along. Kudos to you for this whole video series on the timeline. It was a huge task and you tackled it very thoroughly and brilliantly. Very enjoyable. Have a great one! Edit: also, i love that Miss Minutes is like a mini villain in the book itself with all these slippery bananas she keeps chucking at us 😂
@ramihajyounesmontoya5194
@ramihajyounesmontoya5194 8 ай бұрын
This is completely head canon territory but if they never end up answering this, i'm happy going with this: Old Cap traveled from that branched timeline after having lived his whole life and came to this particular moment to give Sam the shield since he knows that he left his timeline without a shield and without a Captain America. I'd like to think this was him showing gratitude to the journey he went on and he's supporting that timeline for whatever is coming.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I totally agree...I think old Cap went to a branch, lived his life with Peggy, got the shield from that branch, and while in the branch learned how to return to the present day in the main MCU w/o using the time platform. So he returned on that park bench instead. I think that works out really well, so it's my head canon as well. Thx for all your great comments on the vid. I really appreciate your support for the channel and for your positive feedback!
@TrumbullComic
@TrumbullComic 8 ай бұрын
It's cool that they're finally officially nailing this stuff down. The book looks very comprehensive. I'm looking forward to getting it, even though I'm going to have to wait on purchasing it for a while!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was really impressed with the book. They did a great job with it. You'll enjoy it when you do get it. And I'm going to do a few more videos on it as well!
@duncanharris7976
@duncanharris7976 8 ай бұрын
i LOVE that i have this video and all your videos on the timeline book cuz that makes my decision on which book to choose IF i win your october contest MUCH easier😂 The Reign of Marvel Studios it is! the timeline book would make a great coffee table book but seeing as you (and others) provide me all the necessary details i want to know about, no need to get it for myself😂 thanks!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
That makes alot of sense. I agree, I'll be extensively covering the timeline book, so you're covered there. And the Reign of the MCU book is a really good read!
@Chaniya-td6kd
@Chaniya-td6kd 8 ай бұрын
Nice video ..💯❤️🔥
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate it!
@xyro77
@xyro77 8 ай бұрын
The book is freakin great and it’s the CURRENT and OFFICIAL say-so on the MCU timeline.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...I love the book so much. Marvel did a fantastic job with it!
@DarthTingleBinks
@DarthTingleBinks 6 ай бұрын
I think a key factor in determining whether or not Steve lived on the sacred timeline or on a branched timeline after joining Peggy, is that throughout both seasons of Loki, we see the TVA traveling to both the sacred timeline and to various branches, and not once are we led to believe that the TVA showing up branches the timeline. They do like to keep their presence relatively hidden, but there are also times where that is unavoidable, and their presence is very evident. But still no branch. So, we can assume that people merely traveling TO a timeline/universe don't cause enough damage to branch it, and that branches only occur if significant changes to the timeline occur, such as the events seen throughout the What If...? episodes or Loki escaping during 2012. Which means we can presume that the Avengers went back to their own 2012, in the Sacred Timeline, until the timeline branched off when Loki escaped, because he was obviously supposed to go back to Asgard with Thor. And that, because Steve placed all the Infinity Stones back to the time when they were taken from, no branches occurred. Except, however, for 2014, as Thanos and his entire ship traveled to the future and never returned to the past. So there exists a timeline where Peter Quill never meets Gamora, and the Avengers never face off against Thanos. And it is to THIS timeline where Steve would have placed the power and soul stones back into. Edit: The new shield Steve gave to Sam is still ultimately unexplained, but it could have come from Wakanda if What If...? S2 E2 is anything to go by.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 6 ай бұрын
Good points! So I agree, the TVA seem to be able to appear in a branch w/o immediately creating another branch. I think that's due to Kang tech as I think we'll find that Kang can travel to branches and not create new branches. Also they aren't going into their own past, so that means it doesn't need to create a branch. But in the time heist, I think they had to create branches, because Steve said "hail Hydra" in the elevator and he fought himself and even told himself "Bucky's alive". Plus, they knocked out Starlord, meaning he probably never made it to the powerstone in time. I don't think it's possible to go into your past and not create a branch, as any change could alter the future. Heck even the car that Hulk smashed as a joke at the very beginning of the 2012 time heist definitely altered the future for whoever owned that car. So I don't see how Steve could live in the past and not risk changing the future. But just my take on it. I really, really, really want them to show us how he returned the stones and then met up with Peggy. That would be so amazing!
@DarthTingleBinks
@DarthTingleBinks 6 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U Another thing is that, presumably after Loki took the throne at the citadel at the end of time (however 'after' works in that situation), when Doctor Strange's spell brought in people from other universes, it didn't seem to branch that film, either. The book, afterall, lists all of it as taking place in the Sacred Timeline, despite the fact that if Kang was never dethroned, the other Peters and villains likely could never have come to the Sacred Timeline, Aunt May would never die, and Peter would never have to be forgotten. So all things considered, the movie SHOULD be a branch, but it doesn't seem that way. And the multiverse stuff in MoM also doesn't seem to branch anything in any of the universes shown. We only spend considerable time in two of the universes, but it doesn't seem that Wanda slaughtering the Illuminati branches their timeline/universe. And alt universe Strange's corpse, the destruction of Mt. Wundagore, and America Chavez just being there also doesn't seem to branch anything. And let's also not forget that even though Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S7 creates a massive branch timeline, it ends in a causal loop with the end of S7, which necessitates Kora going with the S.H.I.E.L.D. team back to their timeline. And unless that time loop itself happens in yet another branch, we're not led to believe that their timeline branched at all from before the time loop started/ended (because it's a loop, there's no definite start or end to it). All this leads me to really want to how exactly a branch forms.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 6 ай бұрын
So my guess is that it's only if you go into your own past that you create a branch. Jumping to someone else's "present day" in their universe doesn't create a branch. So you can hop between universes without an issue, but you can't jump backwards into your own universe's past without creating a branch.
@jofita
@jofita 8 ай бұрын
love the video
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@e3xhernandez359
@e3xhernandez359 8 ай бұрын
Great video
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much...really appreciate that!
@Haywirex666
@Haywirex666 8 ай бұрын
This video made me question even more stuff about the MCU Timeline. I am glad they could answer the movies/show timeline placement, but now i wonder about the smaller stuff such as the history, as u stated, the U.S Presidency timeline and etc
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Ikr? I mean, I'm stoked about everything we did get, as the book is awesome. But I would love to get some of those smaller (yet quite fascinating) details answered one day!
@sjorsweeda3717
@sjorsweeda3717 8 ай бұрын
If Steve did go into the past in the sacred timeline, maybe Peggy kept quiet, but one version of here did tell someone else and that is the Peggy look-a-like from Loki. Also, Peggy knew Howard Stark, who made the shield, so maybe she came up with an excuse to get Steve his shield.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Interesting theories! Thx for sharing your thoughts on it. I wonder if we'll ever get the answer? I'd love a special presentation showing us how he returned the stones, went to live with Peggy, got the new shield, and came back at the end of Endgame. C'mon Marvel, please give it to us!
@sjorsweeda3717
@sjorsweeda3717 8 ай бұрын
That would be great indeed! I fear it would be too much of a quick cash grab instead of returning the stones, and they'd have to get quite a few actors back that aren't in the planning to get back (for example Tilda Swinton or Natalie Portman). And there would (in my opinion) have to be a complication somewhere, because right now we roughly know what's gonna happen at most of the points. (So it'd mostly be for just the fans that really want to see it, and not the casual watcher) Also: how would Cap re-liquidize the Reality Stone? And if he returns the Soul Stone, can he also do the 'soul for a soul' bit? Does he need to restock the Pym-Particles in Camp Lehigh? More questions, we're probably not gonna get answers to haha. About the shield, didn't Stark use all available vibranium? Maybe he went to wakanda to talk to T'Challa or Shuri so they could get a new shield? Cool videos btw, just discovered you yesterday!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, you list some of the excellent questions I'd love to see answered. It sounds at first like it would just be Steve going back and dropping off the stones, but I suspect it would end up being pretty complex in the end, as you mention. Maybe they'll give it to us one day! And thx for checking out the channel and being a sub. I truly appreciate it!
@APJ97
@APJ97 8 ай бұрын
It’s about time they made this! Just mad I didn’t get to first 😂
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the book is amazing...so glad Marvel finally released the official timeline!
@IS-qp7rs
@IS-qp7rs 8 ай бұрын
so excited to pick this up
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Such an awesome book!
@KingTC12
@KingTC12 8 ай бұрын
dope!!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is such a good book...Marvel did an awesome job with it!
@F0CKSTR0T
@F0CKSTR0T 8 ай бұрын
I'm of the mind that every "universe" is a branch of the sacred timeline. But I imagine something changing much early in history for Tobey's Spider-Man movie to happen. Like no super soldier serum in the 40s.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Great feedback on the vid. I agree, Marvel really needs to give us a specific model of what the multiverse looks like. But I do think Waldron's quote from the MoM Assembled episode is very important: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." He of course wrote both Loki and MoM, so he understands how both worked, and he seems to indicate that Loki's series was dealing with one universe (616) and branched timelines off of it, while 838 was a separate and disconnected universe. If there isn't a distinction between the timeline branches off of 616 and the disconnected 838 universe, then America's powers seem to be meaningless. So yeah, I hope Marvel continues to explain how all of this fits together. And I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@mds_main
@mds_main 8 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to dive deeper into these book with more videos. I'm happy it addresses some questions we had and it's unfortunate that is ignores the other ones. I'm especially bummed at the Marvel Tv situation. I hope they give us a proper answer soon because I'm tired of living in this limbo of "we make some connections but we won't confirm anything".
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yes, you can definitely count on a deep dive video coming soon. And yeah, bummer about the pre-D+ shows not being given a clear answer. Hopefully we'll get it one day!
@KrishnaVedavyasGaddam
@KrishnaVedavyasGaddam 8 ай бұрын
That's awesome
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...I think the book is amazing. Love it!
@elmig0s245
@elmig0s245 8 ай бұрын
Oh boy yeah, it's finally here. I really need it
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's so great...absolutely love the book!
@graybutsuperwhite7949
@graybutsuperwhite7949 8 ай бұрын
Mine should arrive this evening. Super stoked
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Awesome...I know you'll love it!
@knilla2k
@knilla2k 8 ай бұрын
Awesome 🤩
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@crispyg1998
@crispyg1998 8 ай бұрын
I finally subscribed
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the support...really appreciate it!
@CredibleCommenter
@CredibleCommenter 8 ай бұрын
I think if a branched timeline contains something that was meant to be, it fractures into its own universe. For instance, Peggy was just as qualified as Steve to be the super soldier, so it stands to reason that the branching of an Agent Carter timeline could be so powerful that it becomes its own universe. I could be totally wrong, but as a lifelong comic nerd this is the best explanation I can come up with given everything we have to work with!! I know it’s not necessarily running on MCU rules, but I think something similar is happening in Spiderverse; theoretically, if Miguel’s logic is correct, then either Miles’ universe or Universe 42 should’ve long since ceased to exist. The timeline where Miguel had a happy family wasn’t fated to happen so it imploded, but the timeline where Miles became Spider-Man was fated to happen even though it involved multiverse shenanigans so it stayed intact. While Spiderverse and the MCU probably don’t intentionally run on the same logic, I still find it a probable explanation. What do you think?
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Interesting! I mean, that could work. It's weird that a nexus point creates a branched timeline off of a universe, but the events in What If create new universes, but I also think some of that is due to What If having to have been written before Loki was written, due to the long timeframe needed to put out an animated series. So I wonder if they will tweak any of the vernacular when the second season arrives. But I do like your theory. It could work!
@CredibleCommenter
@CredibleCommenter 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I think in general, this whole branch / alternate universe debate is a big illustration of why the Multiverse saga was probably not the right time for them to pull back the reigns on micromanaging every project, cause now there’s a lot of lingering questions like that.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, they definitely needed to do a better job of explaining it all. Totally agree!
@rhodiumveil7072
@rhodiumveil7072 8 ай бұрын
10:30 In Marvel Comics, alternate timelines are a type of alternate universe. The MCU likely uses the same classification.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Great feedback on the vid. I agree, Marvel really needs to give us a specific model of what the multiverse looks like. But I do think Waldron's quote from the MoM Assembled episode is very helpful: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." He of course wrote both Loki and MoM, so he understands how both worked, and he seems to indicate that Loki's series was dealing with one universe (616) and branched timelines off of it, while 838 was a separate and disconnected universe. If there isn't a distinction between the timeline branches off of 616 and the disconnected 838 universe, then America's powers seem to be meaningless. All that said, I hope Marvel continues to explain how all of this fits together. And I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@FariaFC
@FariaFC 8 ай бұрын
Great analysis as always! These conversations really help us understand the MCU much better, as it can be seriously complicated at face value, and I'm a proper MCU stan, so that says a lot 😅
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Your feedback means alot to me, so I really appreciate that. It sure helps me as well to put these videos together as I learn a ton along the way. Thx for watching and leaving your thoughts!
@FariaFC
@FariaFC 8 ай бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing! I'll always have your videos in my notifications. Can't afford to miss out on any details.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! 😊
@foibr
@foibr 8 ай бұрын
hey! big fan, this book looks awesome
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, the book is amazing!
@collinwiniarski4703
@collinwiniarski4703 8 ай бұрын
I just think it’s crazy they made a book of the timeline with how uncertain so many things were/are. Wouldn’t think they’d want to try to lock it in like that, but I like the effort I guess
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I think they felt comfortable locking down the timeline for phases 1-4. Phase 5 and beyond will get addressed in future updates, I suspect. It's a really good book. So glad they finally landed on the official timeline!
@Redem10
@Redem10 8 ай бұрын
You are still in the continuity in my heart Agents of Shield
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Preach it!
@mayo4660
@mayo4660 8 ай бұрын
I am impressed how much the Book answered. Even when it just gave an "half-answer" it still helped. So it exceeded my expectations.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I agree...the book did a great job of either completely answering or at least semi-answering my biggest questions. It is an amazing book and I am so impressed with all the work that went into it!
@oscarpfl
@oscarpfl 8 ай бұрын
Great analysis, I hope I win the contest, I would really like to get this MCU Timeline Book!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback on the vid and best of luck in the contest!
@Nulono
@Nulono 8 ай бұрын
Another thing to keep in mind with respect to the pre-Disney+ shows is that while they take place in the same continuity, they were always separate from the "Phase" or "Saga" systems. _Inhumans_ was not a "Phase Three" show, and _Luke Cage_ was never part of "the Infinity Saga". There also are obviously things that happened in the MCU that won't be covered in the book if they're not relevant to the grander narrative; that could include anything from real-world historical events to backstory details that logically must have happened to disconnected stuff that happened at street-level. Plus, of course, an MCU timeline that covered _everything_ that happened in the MCU would be like 80% Marvel Television stuff.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good points...yeah, I'm glad that at least Feige is saying the pre-D+ shows are a branch off the sacred timeline and thus they are canon to the greater MCU. It means they can indeed show up again in a movie like Secret Wars! Thx so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
@dippymcskippy
@dippymcskippy 8 ай бұрын
I feel like the branched timelines off the sacred timeline were always different universes, that's why he who remained called it a multiversal war
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Good comments. So, I think think Waldron's quote from the MoM Assembled episode is very helpful. He said: "It's something that we've established is that it's impossible, near impossible to travel from one universe to another. In Loki, you can kind of hop from one time line branch to another, but you've gotta be anchored to some original time line. What America can do is, she can jump from one universe to another one. She can literally do the impossible." He of course wrote both Loki and MoM, so he understands how both worked, and he seems to indicate that Loki's series was dealing with one universe (616) and branched timelines off of it, while 838 was a separate and disconnected universe. If there isn't a distinction between the timeline branches off of 616 and the disconnected 838 universe, then America's powers seem to be meaningless. All that said, I hope Marvel continues to explain how all of this fits together. And I really appreciate you watching the vid and leaving your thoughts on it. Thx so much!
@danielorlovaquinn
@danielorlovaquinn 8 ай бұрын
As a huge inhumans + agents of shield fan the mcu always feels like a slap in the face i do 100% believe though that at one point feige was going to reintroduce A.O.S into the disney + side of the mcu but those shows and their productions flopped and now... well 💔
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Sigh...yeah, it's a total bummer. I loved the pre-D+ shows (esp. DD and AoS). At least they are still canon, even if they aren't on the main timeline. So we could get appearances from the characters in Secret Wars, for instance. But still a bummer.
@danielorlovaquinn
@danielorlovaquinn 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U ya these were the shows that got me into the mcu i literally never would have picked up a comic and fell in love with ms marvel and the inhumans if it wasnt for agents of shield, already going off years of fighting the A.O.S isnt cannon comments when ms marvel was announced and they had a push for the more neighborhood heroes in cartoons like marvel rising (even having a quake + ms marvel interaction) i was so sure A.O.S was being re introduced like daredevil eventually especially with the leaks at the time and them ordering 2 more seasons of A.O.S where they break off daisy and send her to space but alas no 💔 i will always feel bummed out about that
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 7 ай бұрын
Oh wow, I hadn't considered that AoS might have been up for renewal. That's fascinating! And I can see why you are heartbroken (as am I) about the series not being in the sacred timeline after reading your story. Thx so much for sharing all that!
@1998rushi
@1998rushi 8 ай бұрын
Waiting for a long time about learning different timelines of MCU..
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, hopefully Loki Season 2 will give us alot of the answers we've been craving!
@Reimoto42
@Reimoto42 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate that!
@Reimoto42
@Reimoto42 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U I've really begun to appreciate this slide deck style of videos in recent years.
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, this style isn't as cool or dynamic looking as some of the vids that incorporate clips from the movies, but I like this style better as I like to focus on the thing being discussed and when there's alot of extra movement going on I end up focusing on that instead of the point being discussed. Can you tell I'm abit ADHD and therefore need to limit the stimulus? lol! Anyway, glad this style works for you. That's great to hear!
@thedustindillon
@thedustindillon 8 ай бұрын
Man, I've got a lot of thoughts about this timeline. First off, I think Agents of Shield is best thought of as a branched timeline. I feel like it works a lot better if Coulson actually dies in the sacred timeline since he is never mentioned again, and it has a better impact. Bringing him back makes a great nexus event to become a branched timeline, so I think that's the best way to look at it. However, the Defenders shows really have no reason to NOT be in the Sacred Timeline. They are all pretty self contained stories and their canon does not interfere with Marvel Studios at all. They also help flesh out New York in a post-Avengers timeframe which is nice. I like to think that the Defenders saga ends right before the blip, which is why we have unresolved plotlines regarding Iron Fist, Luke's control of Harlem, and Bullseye. Regarding Phase 4... man I really think it just works better rejecting the official timeline haha. I've always preferred Loki, Eternals (taking place mere days after Endgame, I like the 5 years ago line from Ajak since it implies Thanos spared Earth from the celestial birth, which I think is a cool concept), WandaVision, Shang-Chi, FatWS, Thor: Love and Thunder (I just see no way that Thor was with the Guardians for a year and a half, plus there is the whole growth of Groot issue), Moon Knight, Spider-Man: FFH, and Spider-Man: NWH. Then I actually move Multiverse of Madness from Fall 2024 to Fall 2025. I personally think it works better to have NWH lead right into Hawkeye since they both involve Christmas (I know the majority of NWH takes place in November, but I find it very strange for Doctor Strange: MoM to occur immediately after. They have completely different costumes, and I think it works better if some time has passed between multiversal events, especially since the ending has Strange going to deal with incursions. Plus, to be honest, I really like having Daredevil and Kingpin in back to back projects. The only real issue is that makes it two years instead of one for Wanda to be corrupted by the Darkhold, but I can live with that since in real life it was like a year and a half between releases) Then obviously we have Wakanda Forever in Spring 2025, followed by She-Hulk and Ms Marvel. We'll have to wait and see if Secret Invasion takes place before or after Ms Marvel until after The Marvels, but it's definitely somewhere in Fall 2025. Then we have Multiverse of Madness, Werewolf by Night, and Guardians Holiday Special at the end of 2025. This is followed by Quantamania and Guardians 3. I realize my version of the timeline is a little bit all over the place, but it makes the most sense to me and makes me happy. Feel free to leave your thoughts! And as always, great video!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
I'm with you on Agents of SHIELD. At this point, its probably better to have it in a branch off of the sacred timeline. Regarding the Neftlix shows, I adore them (esp. DD), but I suspect Feige wants to have the freedom to tell the stories he wants to tell and not be bound by the Netflix shows. I wonder if he wants to avoid bringing back Iron Fist, for example. And he may want to retell Elektra and Bullseye's stories. So I wish they were all canon to the sacred timeline, but I suspect he will draw alot of inspiration from the shows, but go a new route. As for the timeline, I definitely understand your reasons for having a different timeline. I did do vids on each of the trickier placements that you can watch if you haven't seen them yet, but for me...I'm okay with Marvel's timeline. Regarding L&T, I agree, I don't think Thor was with the Guardians 24x7 and he probably was just on select missions with them of and on. As for Groot, I've decided he is just built different. A living tree likely has growth patterns we can't possibly chart. And Eternals is a timeline placement mess, but I do like it later into 2024, as I think so many people died during the blip, that there weren't enough people on the earth to allow Tiamet to arise immediately after the end of the 5 years. And Ajak is an Eternal, so ig that 5 vs. 6 years means nothing to her. Lame answer, but ig it could work. Anyway, great feedback. At this point, I'm just glad Marvel has told us their official timeline. Fans will likely still have their head canon, but at least Marvel has told us their position on it. Thx for watching the vid and leaving all your thoughts on it. Loved reading it all!
@thedustindillon
@thedustindillon 8 ай бұрын
@@AbitofEverything4U thanks for the response man, always love hearing your perspective on this stuff!
@AbitofEverything4U
@AbitofEverything4U 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure. I love chatting with fellow MCU fans!
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