"This is what all 7 of you were waiting for." - referring to the Outrider Bruh You didn’t need to call us Shadows of the Empire fans out

This is a nearly perfect example of the "quintescential nerd conversation". Way more detail than is really needed. But perfectly and meticulously supported. Loved the video, bring my back to arguing with my cousins over which ship in the TIE-FIGHTER dog fighting game we would rather personally own.

It's so enjoyable to get some well thought out lore comparisons and thought about the details that make star wars so immersive in the first place

I really like a Star Wars lore channel that isn't just reading off wookipedia articles. That was fun.

2:31 "How does one acquire such military grade equipment?" Well, you see... ~First the players need to determine what kind of military grade equipment they want (common or rare, old vs current vs experimental, overall quality, which faction's military, etc.). ~Then the GM needs to gauge the difficulty of obtaining it based on the above criteria and the overall cost. ~Next the players check their talent trees to see if they "know someone" and/or have other perks that will either lower the difficulty or upgrade their dice pool. ~Finally, if the players have enough credits and succeed in their roll, then they'll get such military grade equipment. I'm sorry, these videos really make me geek out on Fantasy Flight's Star Wars tabletop games.

@19:48 Anakin's Custom Delta-7B Aethersprite-class light interceptor "Azure Angel", from the original Clone Wars series, has a centrally mounted Astromech forward of the cockpit.

19:54 I believe the clone wars animated show has a number of centrally mounted astromech droids in delta 7's, whether you consider that a reliable source or not is another question

The ship with a class 0.6 hyperdrive is the Jade Shadow. It was a SoruSubb Horizon-class star yacht originally owned by Mara Jade. After the fall of the Empire and Mara Jade joining the New Jedi Order (and eventually starting a relationship with Luke Skywalker), Mara and Luke had Han upgrade the ship's hyperdrive - which Han gladly did on the grounds that he wouldn't make it faster than the Falcon.

I play a Star Wars MUD (for the uninitiated a MUD is a text based online game) where you can design your own ships. Everyone wants something of the approximate size and function as the millennium falcon because its just the right size for anything. It can haul small amounts of cargo if you are bored and want menial work to make money, Large enough to chew up fighters and survive against something bigger until you jump into hyperspace, large enough for spacious living quarters and small enough that you do not need a crew if you do not want to.

4:48 The Acclamator class assault ship had a hyperdrive rating of 0.6, which is insane because such things would be decades-old by the time of the OT and was a mass-produced light capital warship.

Can't say I'd heard of the Ghtroc 720, but it looks like a charming ship! There's no way it wasn't sea turtle inspired.

A heavily modified SoroSuub Horizon-class Star Yacht. Call it the Emerald Shade or something like that. Maybe keep a Z-95 Headhunter in the aft docking bay. Definitely a R9 astromech and maybe a jedi spouse.

14:58 slight correction, R5 was never stated in anything canonical to have done this. It came from one comic that was written as a joke. The same comic said he was force sensitive too, so I'm not sure it's the most reliable source, and that's honestly by design.

This could be considered pedantic, but with regard to the complaint about anakin’s starfighter, please pause the video at 20:37; if you look at the bottom of the port side wings on both obi wan and anakin’s ships, they have a small sidecar compartment, one which has enough space for the body of an R2 unit; the compartment is also visible in the previous shot, on mustafar, where there appears to be enough space for R2 inside if we take the measurement from the first frame with R2 fully ejected and account for the roughly 15 degree change of direction R2 is performing in midair. Another piece of evidence, albeit slightly less solid due to it being from a toy and not the films, is the lego set for “anakin’s jedi interceptor” which i had as a kid, that had a compartment for R2 in the wing much like the ones on the ships in the video, and if you dont believe me, feel free to search the quoted name and see for yourself.

There's a channel idea I'd watch: Top Gear SW Edit: I only made it to 7:01 before writing a comment. I like your style.

R4 in the delta 7 obi wan pilots in AOTC is an intergrated droid that was just a head that couldnt be removed from the ship. There was no body casing and legs with the body internals kept within the hull. As for R2D2 in ROTS that is a mistake.

This is exactly the kind of theorizing I love. I will watch your career with great interest

This is my favorite kind of content. This is how you do self inserts. Normally self inserts are hated, and for good reason. Media is plagued with god-like Mary Sue's and Marty Stu's, as it is... all simultaneously existing in a vacuum bubble outside of canon. But this... This is well thought out, well researched, transparently honest, and wholly immersive. I really, really, love these kinds of self-insert thought experiments. Especially when you run down the cost. That's as real as real can get. Looking forward to seeing more... essays... for lack of a better word... done in this style.

I wish more stuff like this was on KZfaq, this dnd style customization I just love

So, regarding the Delta 7, there _is_ actually a variant with a center-mounted Astromech, we just don't see it in the movies. It's the Delta 7B. This variant has the droid socket in the center in front of the cockpit, and to compensate for the new visual obstruction, moves the cockpit upwards and backwards a bit. We see this variant used in the Clone Wars before the introduction of the Eta 2 Actis.

I've been loving your videos lately, shocked to see you only had 5k subscribers. Keep it up! _edit: yes I wrote a comment before the six minute mark what does that have to do with anything-_

I like that the ship looks like a sea turtle. ☺️💙🐢

Love the video quality cant wait for more people to discover this channel

Man you are on a roll, these videos are great. It's like The Spiffing Britt for SW nerds.

man.... your love for star wars and attention to the details is so goddam beautiful. I love these videos so much. Started with that 12 hr Ep1 vid and haven't stopped... more plz thx

I had it TTRPG group pick up that ship for the exact same reason too, except for one extra modification, you can modify the cargo bays to fit in a fighter, or pick up some recovered vulture droids and deploy them.

“You came in that thing? You’re braver than I thought.” - all my friends, meeting my girlfriend they disapprove of

19:48 the Delta 7B from the Clone Wars, a show that is apart of canon and legends, has a thicker midsection to allow for a full R series astromech to be inserted. The older Delta 7 can only fit the head and it’s internal components. After the start of the Clone Wars, R4 was torn out of the her Delta 7 and given a full body

I would want an hwk-290 light freighter. It is small enough to fly like a X-wing, but big enough to have sleeping arrangements. Easy to modify. Optional Variable Engine geometry, magnalock (magnetically sealed) dorsal docking hatch. Able to carry up to five cargo containers of various types via magnalock plating on Variable geometry engines (magnetically sealed to the hull until released), Optional ventral twin ion cannon Turret/twin laser cannon Turret/twin heavy Blaster Turret (no stock Turret, only room for one Turret at a time), 4 engine mounted Laser cannons (modified from stock X-Wing laser cannons). 1.0 military grade hyperdrive with matching Navcom. Definitely would want a Dedicated Astromech droid for astrogation aid and space based repairs.

Awesome captions/subtitles. Totally subscribing and giving a perpetual thumbs up. Thank you for being considerate to your audience.

"She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts kid."

Here I was, feeling self conscious for liking the Wayfarer-class Medium Transport as much as I do, a ship that originated in an RPG rather than having a more noble pedigree, and then you go and mention the Ghtroc 720. They're both basically designed to be nearly perfect for a party of traveling misfi- uh, heroes.

I kind of want more of this, it would be fun to listen to a bunch of this sort of talk!

As much as I love the flying brick with guns that is the YV 929 armed freighter, if we’re focusing on saving money I’m going with a Barloz class medium freighter. Still a CEC ship. Only 70,000 credits. It’s old, but reliable and tough with 150tons of cargo. The bay itself can fit an A wing easily. Class 2 hyperdrive comes stock with back up Class 10. There’s only 1 laser cannon turret but that can be swapped out and more added. For droids I’d go with an R4, and probably some kind of protocol or service droid to help with translations, paperwork, and loading cargo.

This channel will be massive soon I can already tell

Really loving these videos! Keep it up dude 🤙

I’ll take a VCX-100, because I have more cargo to haul than a YT-1300 or 2400 could handle.

Woah, was just wondering when your new video would come out a few hours ago. Lucky me.

Love these videos mate ,keep em up

At 20:37 you can see a huge ass bucket under the heads of R2 and R4. They have the space there. It just makes the ship a bit wonky.

I was one of the seven.

All shall FEAR! The mighty Space Turtle!!!

Fun video, successfully & entertainingly plumbing the depths of the WEG (and WotC) RPG books. On the Astromech/Eta-2 issue, the cross-sections do show a boxy structure below the droid socket, which could just-about house R2, with his shoulders protruding and his legs telescoped-up the same way they do in the Naboo N1 socket. This requires less distortion of local space than it does to have the actors standing upright in the Millennium Falcon! Also, as others have noted, we never see R2 in a standard Delta 7 wing socket, just the central-line socket versions in both the Tartakovsky CW and Filoni et al TCW series. So the spherical R4-P series explanation can definitely work.

Love your snarky approach to Star Wars!

Love this video, reminds me so much of the West End Games Star Wars RPG

In that final shot of the Jedi fighters, they showed a big bulky box showing up beneath the droids, making the hull thicker there. I only now noticed that.

Great tour of ship designs!

one interesting thing I noticed recently was where the computer aesthetics came from in Star Wars. I was watching some videos about 70's computers like the Altair 8800 and the big IBMs and if you look at those, they look like Imperial control panels, which makes sense being the computers of the day.

Great video series!

That was nice, would enjoy more discussion on droid series.

11:26 you can’t convince me that this ship wasn’t designed to look exactly like a turtle

Endless Skies on steam has a well developed ship modification system that fits very well with this video, a cargo economy, combat/bounty hunting, and it has a good modding community/support to add star wars content

This is what I used to contemplate for years as a teenager. With those same original 'essential guide' books from the 90's. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.

my top 3 picks for a suitable smaller ship would be a sentinel-class imperial landing craft, a zeta-class heavy cargo shuttle, or a YT-1930 (though with heavy mods to maintain the 1300-style side-set cockpit and more intact saucer-shape of the body, and resulting in the engines being moved back ..... also, a big honking turbolaser strapped onto the hull, like a jousting knight and his lance). For larger ships, my top 3 would be an Arquitens-class, a Baleen-class heavy freighter, or an Acclamator class ship.

If you need cargo space, just go for the Action VI freighter. It's slower, but who needs speed when you can take a whole Home Depo store stock in one haul.

It’s very impressive how much you know about Star Wars lore!

I remember in a Star Wars D20 RPG game and I used the deck plans of the Beowulf Free Trader from Classic Traveller, a great game to pull deck plans from for other games. I didn't need all of the fuel tankage so that became space for more weapons and storage.

The Delta 7b athersprite was the refit done during the clone wars that fit a whole astromech socket Infront of the cockpit

It seems to me that @20:37 there are docks for the Droids visible at the underside of both Anakins and Obi-Wans Actis.

I'd want a C-ROC Gozanti-class light cruiser. Super cool ship design IMO, plus all the cargo space you'd ever need!

Ngl, I always saw the Falcon as something like a mobile home that also doubled as a tug boat. Kind of like a long hauler in real life has a mini apartment in the rigs cab for the misses or your whole family. Friend of mine takes his misses and two youngest with him everywhere now that his oldest kid went off to a boarding school.

I think the clip at 20:36 shows an added portion to the wing the droids are in. Still kinda small space, but you said the legs could telescope so... You know what? That would explain how R2 springed out on Mustafar and Grievous' ship. Though I do see how that may not be consistent with the shot of landing on Grievous' ship, where it seems quite low to the ground.

Oh hey, I built a tiny Lego Ghtroc 720 for my rebel fleet just two days ago. Awesome to come across this video so soon after.

Loved it! Also, always wanted a game where I could make my own ship! Make it! X)

I've always been partial to the Lancer-class Pursuit Craft, they're nice and speedy while still allowing me to carry some lighter cargo

I liked the RetCon that it was essentially like a Shunter train, with a huge number of cargo units attached to the front. Being practically all engine and constantly jury rigged and cobbled, i also see it as a Hot Rod. =]

7:12 so true. In Empire at War you can also see and command Bosks YT-666 Freighter.

There is a delta 7 with a center mounted astromech slot, the B variation seen in the clone wars show

I object to the notion of hyperdrives not being possible to throttle up or down- otherwise how would we explain the Millenium Falcon arriving with the rest of the Rebel fleet in VI to attack the Death Star II, instead of days earlier? It's obviously possible for faster ships to 'decrease' (increase) their hyperdrive class to not get ahead of other, slower ships when necessary, even if the same doesn't work in reverse.

I want you to know I appreciate the Stingray clip at 10:24 immensely

Never spent any credits on a funkopop, ey? Never will you say? You had my curiosity, now you've got my attention and subscription!

I just KNEW you were going to pick the turtle.

You ever consider the YU-410 or it's bigger cousin? Also look into the larger variants of the Ghtroc 720. I don't remember the numbers on them but I had one in a table top campaign that was the longest variant with three sets of cargo holds to the Ghtroc 720's single set. It also had more turrets and fin engines set in between the holds. Though still was a deathtrap like the Ghtroc 720 in that the only escape pods were at the rear of the ship while all the crew and passenger areas are at the front with cargo bays in between.

The Jabitha was a ship designed specifically for Anakan when on a mission to Zonama Sekot with Obi-Wan Kenobi as a young padawan. It had a hyperdrive rating of 0.4 (book Rogue Planet). However it was destroyed not long after taking possession of it. The Acclamator class Assault ship had a 0.6 hyperdrive rating.

11:53, that is just the internal storage. The YT-1300 was designed to connect multiple medium cargo containers to the front fork of the craft. Star Wars Encyclopedia, First Edition.

7:22 isn't that the Duracrud? "It's a brick with wings and a hull that leaks gases like a flatulent Hut" -- Uran Lavint

Shoutout to the OG Homeworld soundtrack playing in the background.

Love the video as always- keep up the super detailed good work! Have to disagree with your definition of canon though, for me Lucas is canon, so the first 6 films and the Clone Wars. Can't separate George from Star Wars or Star Wars from George. Ultimately if the creator didn't directly come up with something or task someone else with coming up with it and then subsequently approving their work it isn't canon. Sure they'll be some inconsistencies or things that don't quite add up, such is the nature of movie-making. And it's fine to use some real world logic or science to fill these gaps, but only as filler. You can't base any substantial part of the universe on such information. So if it wasn't an approved part of Lucas' vision then it's fan fiction or head canon, no matter how much more sense it makes. Big fan of legends books, some canon books and the video games but acknowledge these aren't really part of the Star Wars story, more of an alternate timeline type of thing

19:56 in star wars the clone wars we see the delta 7b aethersprite which has a centrally allined astromech slot.

you got me - I need to sub to have more of this!

The Turtle Freighter for the hipsters. It would be nice to have some new ships though.

the eta-2 can has a clearely visible extended zone for astromech droids

i would reccomend VCX-100 as the ship known as the "Ghost" was upgraded to hell and was far more reliable than the falcon

Correction. Warp Drive is a point-A to point-B system that shrinks space between the ship and the target frame, leaving the reference frame to perceive the ship flying faster than light where-in-fact the ship is flying at sublight speed, but with the space in front of it warped to be smaller. In other words, it’s space that’s moving. Not quite the wormhole, “fold a piece of paper in half and punch a hole in it,” more like “erase the target point and draw the points closer to each other,” or more accurately, “fold the paper accordion-style and use huge amounts of energy to travel through the stacks.” Hyperdrive, on the other hand, means punching a hole into a subspace corridor or tunnel, then traveling that corridor and punching out at your destination.

I want one. Also, this is the way a star wars video should be made

The GHTROC 720 would also be my go-to ship, but I would make some mods. For one, replace the crew cabins with equivalents that are suited for humanoids.

Happy to say I was one of the 7 waiting for the mention of Shadows of the Empire

There is a variant of an early jedi starfighter with a central mount for an astromech droid, refer to the clone wars, especially first couple seasons

I'd go for an R5 unit, they invite all manner of after market modifications, and they are some of the only droids that come with a unique personality straight out of the box.

Rare that I learn so much from a vid

I didn't now know there was this side to starwars. This is a huge appeal of Gundam. Different manufacturers and millitary configurations.

GX-1 or XS-800, price depending. They're much more cost efficient. A new xs-800 is only about 35,000 iirc. They have high sublight speeds which if you're a good navigator is fine. The falcon and your's can 'slide' though, useful for busy freight lanes and maneuvreability. I'd take out the 2 rear escape pods and move the workshop into the cargo holds, plenty of space there and nice cargo lifts big enough for a family speeder. All it really needs are a hyperdrive overhaul, power overhaul, shields overhaul, a turbolaser turret would be nice (not to do damage per se but to keep big ship's shields up so they have less engine power)

I really liked your analysis. Are aerodynamics a huge deal if you're using one of thes in atmosphere? I was just thinking about venerablity taking off. Sorry to geek out.

The decannonized Correlian XS Freighter is a whole ass house in space

I tend to run a Gozanti class freighter/cruiser or Marauder class Frigate/Corvette if I can get one.

My dream ship is the Consular-Class Cruiser retrofitted for mining asteroids in a nice Caterpillar yellow.

I would love the twilight only because I can carry 2 smaller 1 or 2 setter ships like a n1 nubian witch I also want. With some interesting upgrades

There's also the YT-2000 (Otana) from XWA and the VCX-100 (Ghost) from Rebels. The YT-2000 looks to be smaller and lighter than the Falcon, like large van or box truck to the Falcon's 'Semi-truck' feel. Meanwhile the VCX-100 boasts a pretty solid size, easy to load bay, and the ability to dock a child vessel to it. Which is pretty useful if you want to say, avoid docking fees for a spaceport and still be able to zip into town. (Assuming you're not loading cargo.) Both craft also boast centerline cockpits instead of the starboard-side offsets. Which make handling either one easier. Exact stats and numbers are not something I feel like looking up, but their performance as 'hero ships' in their respective media indicates they are at least tough enough and versatile enough to hold their own in a dangerous galaxy. If I were to pick, I'd probably take the VCX-100. A full size loading ramp DIRECTLY into the cargo bay would be my make-or-break for the role. Just, straight up TRUCK utility there. The Falcon's layout is sorta... well. The front area which SHOULD be the loading bay seems to double as the living quarters for the crew, and the aft cargo and engineering bays require you to maneuver cargo through those turns. Which means you limit the size of your individual cargo pallets or can only fit one BIG item in the front section, sitting all over your 'living room'. The YT-2000 likely has similar issues, and the cockpit takes up where the loading bay on the Falcon is. Plus, the VCX has full, if tiny, crew quarters. The Falcon has two wall bunks shoved into bulkheads. Need a nap? Crawl over your cargo and get into an uncomfortable little spot. All ships can clamp large containers on their underside, so I'm not worried about that. Though, anything magnetically clamped to the outside of the ship is going to play havoc with maneuverability if you're in a hurry. In terms of systems, I'm not overly concerned about the hyperdrive. As long as I'm not sitting on plain-jane civilian drives and spending a week just going to the next system over, it doesn't need to edge out every military ship in known space. Instead, I want a powerful sublight engine backed by some reinforced shields, and a top of the line navicomputer so my jumps get calculated quickly. The threat is getting jumped by pirates, not getting destination-jumped by a cruiser I fled from in the system behind me. Also, I need a cargo pod full of beer ready to eject at all times. At the very least, if I encounter Hondo, I just dump that and run. He'll probably go 'at least that one left us drinks' and bugger off.

Id want a N-1 starfighter or a classic Y-Wing with the full plating i love the yellow and sleek design or a nubeian yacht even

this is quickly becoming my favourite star wars based channels