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i see that you have chosen violence, finn

I love finn because he has some of the worst takes but also some of the best takes at the same time

First my hero Finn shat upon my internalized identity of Deftones...now crushes my Mr. Bungle childhood. But I keep coming back...I keep coming back. I need to hear these things...this is healthy.

Motorhead in terms of no-nonsense rock are one of the best, Lemmy stuck to what he knew and it worked, but yeah you can't really say they're any greater than that because of the lack of musical progression/innovation. Other bands took from Motorhead and developed the sound but in terms of attitude, Lemmy is the GOAT - truly didn't give a fuck

You may hate the Mr Bungle debut album but that album is the reason Korn and Slipknot even exist

It's quite easy: If you don't like a certain band, you consider it as overrated. If you like a certain band, you consider it as underrated.

I can feel the atmosphere trembling as Fantano furiously cycles towards Finn's current location.

"Overrated" is the most overused and useless word out there.

I wouldn't say Radiohead are overrated at all, they do have a really solid discography

The thing with Death Grips is that they came out in a very specific era. While their sound may not be as fresh now, keep in mind that The Money Store came out in 2012, where basically nothing sounded like it, it was a pretty unique sound at the time and even today, and in many ways, predictive of the next 10 years of internet culture and music. And I really don't think I agree with them being "fake weird" when they released things like Fellas On The Moon, Steroids, Gmail and the Restraining Order and Year Of The Snitch, albums that are legimitely bizarre and weird.

Thinking Radiohead isn't great is pretty much not an option if you appreciate music. There's a reason musicians love Radiohead. They are great for the exact reason you don't like them. You think they're fake weird. People who understand songwriting and experimentation realise they're walking a fine line that everyone else hopes to walk. They can fuck with time signatures, use syncopation, use instruments and effects in creative ways, use unexpected chord progressions, delve into different genres, while still writing catchy songs that still sound like Radiohead. And have you heard their production on some of their records? I know this sounds super condescending, and maybe I'm totally wrong, but most musicians I bet would agree Radiohead is hard to not at least appreciate. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but your take is just weird because being avant-garde while being mainstream is the hardest thing to pull off. And why is weird necessarily better? Don't get me wrong, I love some experimental music, but I appreciate sophisticated song writing that carves out a catchy song even more. Why is being into "weird" music gatekeeping if it's easier to make weird non-catchy music? Stop trying to outhipster hipsters. Hipsters suck, but they have pretty good taste.

Radiohead's the Bends and Ok Computer are two of the best albums of the 90s.

Finn went from making in depth videos about marketing in the music industry to centering all his content around triggering hipsters like me. And I'm here for it.

Never really thought of Radiohead as all that weird.. but like you, I'm a Gen Xer who's listened to quite a bit of music from all over the spectrum for years. But *hard* to say the band that made Paranoid Android, Karma Police, High & Dry, Just and There There "sucks"

You can say what you want about Mr.Bungle but you can’t say that Mike Patton is trash when he’s literally a walking soundboard that has mastered every sound and vocal note known to man

Fifteen years ago, I would've agreed about Radiohead, but it was less that their music was overrated (it's not) and more that there was this peer pressure to *have* to love them. I've been revisiting their music lately and really appreciating it, especially OK Computer and in Rainbows (Weird Fishes is just 🥰)

i cannot believe he ranked weezer ovee radiohead 😭

Saying Mr Bungle is overrated is inaccurate, ppl never even heard of them ever

Okay but Radiohead is actually amazing though

Radiohead exists in the space where they are experimental but also accessible. That’s a tough space to exist and be successful

Finn’s characterization of Radiohead as bland is bizarre. They’re rich from a music theory and textural standpoint, plus Yorke has a singularly beautiful voice

My opinion on weird music is that if you're going to be weird, you don't need to go fully off the deep end. For example, Radiohead. In the wide landscape of Avant-Garde music, Radiohead is not that weird. That doesn't mean their music isn't good. I think the members of Radiohead would agree that they do not make the weirdest music possible. Titles like that should go to bands such as Throbbing Gristle and The Gerogerigegege. But just because their music is more accessible than Avant-Garde, it doesn't mean they make bad music. Of course music is subjective, but calling an artist bad because they aren't 'weird enough' is a pretty lame justification. Also, Radiohead making Avant-Garde accessible probably got a lot of people into the Experimental music scene, and that's a win in my eyes. Also, just because it came up, Sepultura and the Circle Jerks would not have existed if not for The Stooges and Television. (Also, you're tripping Finn. Aphex Twin was MAD influential. Here's a list of people influenced by him: Korn, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers, 311, Madonna, Kylie Minogue, Frank Ocean, Kanye West, Travis Scott, Doja Cat, Daft Punk, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Skrillex, Radiohead, Bjork, Deadmau5, A$AP Rocky, Nine Inch Nails, JPEGMAFIA, Death Grips, Pharrell Williams, Flying Lotus, Nirvana/Dave Grohl, Calvin Harris, DJ Shadow, Arca, Vegyn, Iglooghost, Slowthai, Billie Eilish).

I don't really get the argument that an artist/band isn't good because they aren't "weird" enough? Like, sure, dg or radiohead aren't the most abstract or weird, but they can still be good. Some people like basic music, some people very experimental, so why couldn't something in the middle also be good? It's not like they try to claim that they are the most experimental outputs in the world.

The rerelease of Mr Bungle Raging Wrath of the Easter Bunny from 2020 is awesome. They brought on Scott Ian and Dave Lombardo to remake it.

You just dont like headphone music. You only like music you can put on at a party and noone will get offended

I would love to see bands that are vastly underrated or who really deserve more credit, for me the big one the past few years was when i came across Cardiacs and the album Sing to God....for me personally hearing the songs Dirty boy, Fiery gun Hand, Dog like sparky were life changing to me and then when i checked out the back catalogue and some of the weird but still cool stuff

I’m one of those obnoxious Bungle Stans. The self-titled and California releases are amazing. DV is always a tough listen even to this day. They did get the appropriate placement on the board which surprised me considering Finn’s known “love” of all things Patton.

I feel like Finn would understand death grips more if he listened to exmilitary

Noone listens to Radiohead because they are wierd. It's like Tom Waits, they are kinda wierd, but when you listen to them you just find the beauty.

When you claim “if you’re an honest person, you can’t enjoy these bands,” it makes you seem so much more pretentious than the Pitchfork heads giving Swans 10/10s. For someone who often claims music enjoyment is subjective, you seem extremely quick to generalize fans of bands that exist on the outside of genre margins. Coming up as a hardcore kid, it’s odd to see such an essentialist perspective from another hxc guy.

These vids should be at least an hour long. I could listen to Finn evaluate music indefinitely! Extremely entertaining! Cheers Finn!

Did Finn just listen to Fitter Happier and Pulk/Pull from Radiohead? OK Computer and the Bends are amazing guitar rock. But perhaps too melodic/emotional for his taste.

Mr Bungle are in no way overrated. Disco Volante is a one of a kind record.

Motörhead overrated???????? wtf

I think if you read a lot about a band before actually hearing them, it's definitely hard to jump into their music objectively. And that goes both ways. On the flip, I remember thinking that I'd never like The Grateful Dead because they're the "antithesis of punk" (i ended up like a fair bit of them), or thinking I'd hate all Pink floyd because "Johnny Rotten wore a shirt that said "I Hate Pink Floyd!". When you're kid and having an identity is important, it's easy to jump on those bandwagons until you become an adult and it's just ingrained in you to dislike certain bands for absolutely no reason. On the flipside: I remember being so excited to finally hear the Replacements, then later on, Turbonegro. I've read so many amazing things about those bands and the way they were described, they seemed to line up perfectly with my tastes. To this day, I can name about a handful of songs by both bands that I actually enjoy, and I find the rest of them really boring. Now comes my objective point: When I first heard the Ramones, I had no idea what I was listening to. Absolutely no clue. They just counted "1-2-3-4" and went right into the song on the radio. I decided about 20 seconds in that it was the greatest thing I ever heard. They instantly became my favourite band of all time and that was 28 years ago now. So, when I hear anyone say "the Ramones are overrated", all I think is "no, you just got sick of reading about how great they were before you actually heard them". Bands like the Ramones deserve every ounce of credibility and respect they get. (PS: I'm aware the Ramones weren't included in your list, but I heard many people say the Ramones are overrated). Guess my point is that what constitutes "overrated" or "underrated" depends on a variety of things, including where you grew up, what kind of books/zines/magazines you randomly decided to read, what albums you decided to take a chance on, the attitudes of people you were surrounded by, etc.

In my opinion Radiohead are one of the greatest bands of all time, but i kinda get were your coming from their not for everyone

“Hell yes I’m gatekeeping” >gate keeps music he doesn’t even listen to

who gave anyone the idea that Radiohead is "weird music"? i never thought of Radiohead as weird, the reason that they are popular throughout the years, is that their catalogue of music doesn't seem to deteriorate like many other bands have as time goes on. Their albums have enough variation to them, and they do experiment with different sounds.

I really think that Radiohead is objectively great. They are def on the mainstream of niche, but what does that matter?

As someone whose favorite band is Mr Bungle, everything you said about the fans was right

Not into Aphex Twin’s drill n’ bass music, but I really dig when he does atmospheric stuff like Flim, Rhubarb and Avril 14.

Finn: Listen to Florida Georgia Line, nerds also Finn: You’re a poser if you think Radiohead is alternative

I'm not one of those "insufferable" Tool and Deftones fans, but I think they deserve all the credit they get!

Disco Volante is also my favorite Mr. Bungle. It's like a homicidal Saturday morning cartoon. I have it on record. One of the songs is actually hidden between the grooves of another song and you have to randomly drop the needle right to hear it. "The Secret Song/Spy" ...and Merry Go Bye Bye is just fucking nuts. Fun fact: The album name means "Flying Saucer" in Italian.

I'd say the Beastie Boys are fairly rated, your average listener likely only knows like 5 or 6 songs and don't realize how important they were to the evolution and growth of Hip-Hop

The 90s is by far the best era for experimental music, especially in the electronic genre. Would love to know your opinion on other outfits like Boards of Canada, the prodigy, the chemical brothers to name a few. Also, i am a big Aphex Twin fan and enjoy IDM.

I've been into weird electronic/industrial since the mid 1990s. Death Grips was right up my alley right away. I always have them on at the gym or mountain biking.

I don't care much for most of his other output, but "Selected Ambient Works II" singlehandedly makes Aphex Twin a giant in my mind. That's the album I've listened the most in my life (though granted, often as background music), and I reckon that along with Boards of Canada has been immensely influential in modern ambient electronic music.

Some wild opinions in here lmao. Radiohead is actually a legendary band lol. Wouldn't call my self a huge fan, But they really have had a huge impact on most modern alternative rock since the early 90s. And then to say Aphex Twin trash lmfao. Aphex Twin is to date still one of the most unique and influential artists of modern times. Even legendary bands outside of electronic music like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Linkin Park, Nine Inch Nails or Radiohead it self claimed to be heavily inspired by Aphex Twin. I honestly could not come up with a more impactful artist for me personally. I get that if you're main genre of music is generic Emo and Metalcore then it might not be the most accessible music out there for you. But really then stick to that instead of bashing on other styles you got no clue about lol. Also the whole IDM is nothing what the guy him self ever agreed on, in the 90s overal electronic dance music was quite basic and primitive. vs IDM what actually was pushing a lot of it's limits by using a lot of complexity and deep synthetic designs for its time. Fact that there are big professional orchestras out there covering some of Aphex Twins early work says enough about his composition skills. Widowlicker was simply a test to see how big of a mainstream hit he could create by mostly using his voice. I think it's a banger, but for sure not nearly close to his best stuff out there.

Finn: “Death Grips is like fake edgy music” Also Finn: *uses some of the most fake-edgy and shittiest sounding music to point to what “real” edgy is, aka goregrind/harsh noise*

In my opinion: 95% of modern "metal" bands that's almost all being praised by modern "metal" community (modern "metal"core, modern deathcore, djent, modern nu-metal, modern alternative metal). That's right: Bad Omens, Sleep Token, Spiritbox etc.

I was at a festival and just happened to see Weezer and I was shocked at how much they sounded live like the recorded versions of their hits. It was really impressive

As soon as I saw Radiohead, I knew Finn is gonna mention Havohej, He does it every time and I don't understand why? There's a lot of "weird" music besides Havohej. Also Radiohead's music is not even considered weird by their fans, and no one that I know of listen to them because of that. I don't get why he got so hung up on their "weirdness".

Great video man! Always enjoy you're videos!

Alternative video title: "Finn shitting on artists Anthony Fantano has rated highly for 20 minutes"

Motörhead is in no way overrated.

Motorhead are more underrated, if anything. Most people only talk about everything up to and including 'Ace Of Spades', they've done some equally awesome albums after that era.

This chat is just a Yes men squad

Another good vid. I agree with all of these except Beastie Boys. If all of the music was like their big hits, I would concur but CYH, LTL, and HN you have all kinds of interesting instrumentals, punk/hardcore, electronic, and even some psychedelic stuff. Not that genre hopping alone makes you good, but I think their music is more complex than it often gets credit for today. Just my 2 cents though. Love the vid!

3:10 I don't think that's strange at all actually. I don't love Arctic Monkeys but there's a reason why they are popular. It's because there are these extremely passionate people who listen to them all day. Just because you only know about popular artists doesn't mean you're not passionate enough. Anyway, love your videos Finn, greetings from the Netherlands

''If you want to listen to something weird or niche'' - that to me is a wrong way to think about music. I can guarantee you that bands like Radiohead don't think about it like that and neither should you. The fact that people still think they are amazing more than 26 years OK Computer and the fact that every other musician today is inspired by them kind of means that you should give them another listen. Every album since OK computer has been innovative and some are honestly genius

Every point that's ever been made about Mr. Bungle is both incorrect and correct at the same time because the music changes every ten seconds, yeah the beginning of squeeze me macaroni can be pretty difficult for some people but it changes to something different in 13 seconds and then it changes again and again and always has something fresh for you. also my ass is on fire has one of my favorite sections in music starting at 1 minute and 40 seconds and ending at 2 minutes 26 seconds in the song starting with just guitar moving into a chorus like thing and then a percussion instrument that sounds really cool but I don't know what it is and then record scratching. Its hard for a band to be overrated when so few people listen to them, also California is a great album. its funny because I agree the self-titled is my least favorite of their original 3 (even though I still love it). This video is clearly only made to make people angry, don't do that. People like you make people feel invalid about their own taste and make them feel like shit for liking something weird or different. Bungle fans don't act like they invented music, we act like they are geniuses that always make something new. I would know I was raised listening to Mr. Bungle because that's what my mother played for me as I grew up and I became accustomed to that weirdness, if you don't like it that is fine just don't go trying to invalidate people for liking them. Also the Radiohead placement is criminal, I guess we're pretending that 2007 never happened.

I like death grips just because I like it, not because it's weird and edgy, just think it goes pretty hard.

Finn literally has a video praising the Beastie Boys for how great they are.

Disco Volante is the only Mr Bungle i own on vinyl. Desert Search for Techno Allah is a fave, for sure. i named my bulldog Mr Bungle, too. Great band.

I guess I never cared too much about if other people liked what I listened to. I just always hoped there was enough fans (not necessarily stans) to get it so they could keep making stuff and have a life. As for your list, you shot me twice in the heart with where you put both Death Grips and Motorhead. I mean who hasn't wanted to hear ODB lyrical insanity over industrial riffs (DG) or the one shredding song where someone growls along with it through it with his raspy Cigarette tarnished voice (MH)? As long as you don't destroy my love for Tom Waits I think I'll be okay

I think the series should be renamed to "Finn Hates Music."

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Wow Finn, I came to this video expecting violence against Mr. Bungle and you pleasantly surprised me. Keep up the good work!

Excuse me, Windowlicker in a H&M changing room? Brother, what H&M are you going to? Aphex Twin is a complete God of electronic music. He has so much music, he manages to make emotionally potent, nostalgic, menacing, heavy, unpredictable music. All those adjectives? Easily your worst take ever. Made me cringe ngl I kind of understand Radiohead being overrated if you're not a megafan (i am lol) but aphex twin was making some of the most groundbreaking mysic as a teenager before the imternet. That alone boggles my mind You literally have my two all time favourite artists as trash...... I'm appalled yet impressed Radiohead also have a pretty impeccable discography. Kid A , Ok Computer, In Rainbows and for me even TKOL are all incredible

Love this video. Waiting for part2

Bro heard two songs by Motorhead and decided they're mid. Hoo boy

I don't think weird when I think radiohead tbh. At least thats not at all why i listen to them. Apart from a couple albums, i actually think they're fairly accessible.

Finn trying to tell us all this band are awful is like him trying to tell us that all those awful shitty punk/hardcore bands that get grossed out by meat are amazing 😂

Can someone tell me whats wrong with "fake weird"

overrated by who is the question. the world of music criticism is so saturated these days that i'm sure you could find examples of all of these bands being both overrated and underrated. i don't think it really matters anymore

Motorhead isn't a band, it's a lifestyle...

Have to say, Aphex Twin is great music to work to. I think he's a lot closer to LoFi or Ambient than Electronica. It's like hating Lorna Shore for not having very good Thrash Metal songs, it's not really the vibe they're going for.

Bit disappointed with the placements for Death Grips and Motorhead. You are entitled to your opinion though. You make really strong content. It has definitely helped evolve my acceptance for other types of music. It has also given me new prospective on other genres. I still have my hot takes, but it has tamed my gatekeeping senses and turned me into a more mature music listener.

Would love a part 2 of this.

A thing about some of these like Weezer (Who I have not seen since like 1997 or so) and Motorhead is that they put on amazing shows. I wasn't a big fan of either until I saw them live.

Sublime is Overrated

My favorite as a King Diamond fan was, "Ohh man, if you like King Diamond you will love Ghost". I listened to ghost. It had nothing at all to do with the sound of King and Andy Larocque what so ever. Then I looked them up on KZfaq. Saw how they looked. Ohh man!!!! So because they dress similar people think they are the same thing? Blew my mind and I knew people respected people who fell for the image trap even though the sound is the polar opposite. BLEW MY MIND

As a wrestling fan I'll always give Motorhead props for writing the best wrestling tune in history, The Evolution Song. I think the official title is "Line In The Sand" but I haven't listened to much of their stuff to have an actual opinion.

Dude's wrong about Motorhead.

I haven't watched the whole video yet but I'm curious about what you think of Tame Impala. Forgive me if you've already made a video about it.

I dunno, these hot takes are coming from someone who ardently defends Nu Metal and Pop Punk. I understand that Finn thinks being aggressively unpretentious ad basic is punk af but c'mon, I'm not even a radiohead fan but How are you gonna tell me Blink 182 and Linkin Park are better bands than Radiohead when they are clearly not. The dude just hates music that's assertively artsy and pretentious. The dude bases his identity on being punk rock but like doesn't like Stooges? If you don't like the stooges, you have no taste, period. The dude has sheltered ass suburban middle schooler ears.

Death Grips is fun to listen to, and fun to see people's reaction to their noise (at least it was years ago) 😂😂😂 Also Ride's art paintings are very amazing. Super talented man.

Comparing aphex twin to "videogame menu music" is all i needed to know about you, you clearly know nothing about music production lmao

Can you do a video on math rock bands

These videos are great! This one in particular is making me want to listen to some Mr Bungle!!!!

weezer overrated? i mean the popular opinion about them is that they haven’t released a great album since 1996. me? i think they’ve put out some pretty bad stuff but they’re still an alright band. ok human and sznz were nice

Why is tool not included? 🤔

*PRMBA speaks the truth to power that Fantano won't.* I once had a friend who was COMPLETELY into Aphex Twin, Mike Patton, Radiohead, and all manner of weirdo circlejerk fodder; and we spent days riding around and getting high, me desperately trying to get my head around Skinny Puppy's goth-ambient-jackhammering with a system full of 90's weed and other things. I tried, I really did, but alas - Dead Can Dance was my palette cleanser between servings of Film OST's.

I don't know how Finn can say Death Grips is not good with a straight face considering all of the other music he likes or thinks is groundbreaking. I almost can't think of a more groundbreaking and interesting group than Death Grips in the past 10+ years. And I'm not even a Death Grips stan, I just think you can't deny how sick they are. I can not disagree more with his take lolol like it genuinely upset me even though I'm not even a massive fan of them. Also, Aphex Twin is fantastic. Utterly brilliant and groundbreaking artist. Like, a producer's producer. Calling him trash is just a fat fucking L lol...pure ignorance. If you have ever had a shred of experience in music production, sound design, or programming drums, his music will blow your fucking mind. Not to mention Aphex Twin has been producing NUMEROUS different variations of electronic music since the early 80's, and even has a new EP set to drop next month. He's got tons of longevity. I'm genuinely a massive fan of Aphex Twin, he's far more interesting, influential, and groundbreaking than 90% of other electronic music producers, and that's not even a hot take.

You can tell a super fan when their reaction to you not liking a band is that you just understand them.

UGH!!! this vid needed to keep going!!

Calling Radiohead trash just tells me you have no concept about playing an instrument or putting chords together and writing songs......

Death Grips have annoying fans, but a lot of their stuff is sick.