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Yargle is secretly S+++ tier because everyone loves Yargle :3

I think the funniest thing you can do with polukranos, engine of ruin specifically is just cast a lot of hydra's with no x paid and they just enter and die to state based actions because a lot of them just have counters, and you turn it into like 1 green mana for 2 3/3's. with anything that draws you cards whenever a creature enters the battlefield that's 3 draw triggers or 2 draws for elemental bond style effects

Jolrael is from MOM Aftermath. The buy a box promo for this set is Omnath Locus of all

Poor slimefoot and squee missing out from the list

Shuffling it into the deck can allow you to send it straight to your command zone, which let's you bounce it away from effects like kenriths transformation or any steal ability or the like.

One thing you missed on Rankle and Torbran is that they work similarly to BFZ Drana - they have First Strike, so their on-combat-damage trigger will happen after first strike but _before_ normal combat damage, so buffing all your other damage to players/battles that turn by +2 will apply to all your other non first strike creatures' combat damage. Also, for Rona, you can proc her backside trigger yourself to play your hand for free. Sure, UB isn't the _best_ colors for pinging, but there are still a fair number of effects that you can use to proc her yourself to play things from your hand for free. You can even put out multiple lands, since she says "put" and not "play."

Urbask feels so much better than any other card in the set. It may be because it already fits into ruby storm builds and that it arguably power-creeps birgi out of her own deck

taking a drink everytime he says "essentially" and all of a sudden Multani and Yargle are my new deck

Where's Goro goro? Did i miss him? By the way,when will gameplays be back?

Was looking forward to this fun vid!! Thank you for the insightful takes and making my sunday awesome! 😊

You forgot slimefoot an squee🥲

You also have to remember that with vorinclex, you're pulling 2 lands out of your deck before you mill, making it a nicely lower chance you hit lands when you need creatures.

I think polukranos has a preatty good potential usin Hydra spells for 0, and white reanimator spells, don't think it's S, but D is too low

I feel like new Jolraelis perfect for a creature duplication deck. You create clones of the land creature and ramp from what is typically a payoff

Glissa seems like a really good Alien xenomorph commander. She makes alien eggs, can wake them up, and gives them first strike and deathtouch which definitely feel xenomorphy with their sneak striking and acid blood.

Etali's front side is one of those commanders that gets stronger the more opponents you play against and I love that.

I have played Jin-gitaxias and it is a lot more powerful then it looks because you are mono blue and proliferate is quite easy in blue. Also you can kinda control the game. Every time I have flipped it I won the next turn or the turn after

Having built and playtested a Heliod Deck, it's OP. If you untap with it on the field it's almost a guaranteed win with the ability to do everything at flash and for cheap

A note on Zurgo and Ojutai: I believe that because it says “one or more dragons” and not “a dragon” it only triggers once, not at each dragon, so I definitely wouldn’t put it that high up, but that’s just me.

Even though it's a C I kind of like the idea of Surrak and Goreclaw. I'm down for mono colors more now as I've only ever done 2-3 in color combinations

You actually can break Kroxa and Kunoros. Altar of Dementia last you sacrifice your commander on the stack, so you can return you commander to repeat this loop. You’ll net one card in the yard. So you can set something up like Fiend Hunter + Karmic Guide + Altar of Dementia to mill your opponents out.

I actually really like Kogla and yidaro. Sure I’m not gonna be running it as a commander, but it’s a perfect fit for my polymorph deck, where I need creatures in my deck else they’re useless. The fact that I can turn a dead draw into enchantment removal is rlly good. I run yidaro for the same reason.

Did you miss Slimefoot and Squee?

The flip commanders into a Saga are good, yes, however it allows more than one turn around the board for opponents to react with removal. Harder to pull off, but if you get there and 6 other turns have occurred with no interaction it is on them :)

I’m hoping to build complaeted ETALI. That card will be fun af.

Hidetsugu is underrated. They can just win on the spot in one turn with a deck full of clones/reanimator and some time walks.

I feel like zurgo and Ojutai should swap with Rona, Herald of Invasion. Z&O take longer to come online and the ability is not as easily to abuse as Rona. Rona is essentially a cheap looter that only has upsides for 2 mana and can do a lot a work with many dimir combo lines. If you want to get even more degenerate then you can abuse her backside and ping her to play so many spells from your hand for free.

17:23 I thought I heard Fanatic Amogus and had to rewind just to make sure I caught that correctly lmao.

The second I saw drana and linvala I knew it is going to be a big stax commander. With Urborg and kormus bell out you lock your opponents out. Great, more karn 'wins' decks.

With rankle remember his ability buffs all other attacking creatures as wel because he has first strike so he is a mini anthom however his effect is symmetrical so it also buffs opponents power Also ronna if you use pestilence you can use it to ramp/ play random spells from your hand for free as long as you can damager her with an effect it doesn't say opponent damages her

With new Quintorius, Djeru and Hazoret Boros eating good. Can't wait for the pre-con tier list

For Sheoldred if you could somehow put a fire mana you could run sire of sanity for 4 black red and at the beginning of each end step every player discards their entire hands

Orthion, Hero of Lavabrink is an absolute superstar in an Argus Kos, Eternal Soldier deck.

Kogla & Yidaro -Pretty cool Godzilla & King Kong flavor 😅

My next commander didn't even make the cut. I'm building a Shalai and Hallar deck centered around hydras and tyranids to have some +1/+1 counters fun.

Ashamed to say I bought a box to get the sick alt Omnath art, hopefully I pull a Thalia in it so I can build both the new decks.

Jorael That one spell that creates X Land Dryads was tailer made for this commander Especially in Simic, X will most likely be 7+ mana. Once all those dryads that get through hit thats good draw power But this is only just a small Move to do since it’s relying of casting/creating those tokens with just one card

i agree on most cards with you. although i dont like mechanics (proliferate, infect , poisonous or phyrexian mana in general) because they are too strong, I like the idea that there are new pseudo-commander for example Zimone and Dina . in addition all stuff is now corrupted by the process of Phyrexia and so there are new powers to creatures like Etali. And Yargle actually is God-tier because he can swing and kill with commander damage. xD

So many cool cards that I don't even know what to get.

Kogla - a 7/7 Yidaro - a 8/8 Both working together - a 7/7 Logic

No slimefoot and squee?

Did he forget Goro-goro and Saturo?

Glissa may also be a bit undervalued as it can generate 2 artifacts a turn

I think Vorinclex deserves at least A tier, though I might be biased. With his ETB he pays for himself, so commander tax can basically be ignored. If your opponent kills him, you just get to cast him again and get two more forests. As CGB puts it, "hes a big giant monster that makes sure you hit youe land drops to play your other big giant monsters". Probably my favorite mono-green commander right now, hes crazy.

The true tactic: New Brimaz commander, with all versions of Elesh Norn and Sheoldred. Where is your god now?! Seriously, fine ranking. Looking forward to opening some packs and play with the cards. 😀

I’m super disappointed polukranos is in D I thought all of the recursion effects in white like abiding grace paired with casting a hydra for X is 0 was pretty strong

Actually, I have all of these now. I would love some random person to suggest a commander, because I literally can't decide.

im excited for drana and linvala

Personally most excited for blightsteel dino!

42:16 make your creatures wHAT- 😭😳

In a talk permeated by the idea of powercreep, is kinda weird that borborygmos tag up card is weaker than borborygmos enraged...maybe the big guy is holding back to not hurt his little friend? xD

you could also hit rona yourself and cheat ur whole hand in if u can do it consistently

Ghalta triggers without attacking, it's triggered from 'you attacking'

What about slimefoot & squee?

Dont put draw reducers in heliod, fucks up his storm, but you can put in dampning sphere, and it wont hurt your deck at all, a storm deck utilizing stax pieces is scary

I think baral and KZ are underestimated. It has some hardcore cEDH potential

I think Orthion is going to be better than expected. He's going right in my Mishra (pre-con) deck.

Polukranos is far from weak though considering most hydras cost 1 to 2 mana if you don't put anything into X and with 0 toughness they die. So for 1 to 2 mana you could put 6/6 power onto the board between 2 bodies.

What about the commanders in the precons?

I didn't even notice you weren't including the Commander deck legends until you finished S Tier and didn't say Shalai and Hallar

Gush gives Jin Gitaxias +5 cards in hand for flip and blue gives access to great proliferate spells I'm unable to not kill the whole table by turn 6 at the latest with Jin, should definitely be s tier

How about the 3 prerelease promo creatures, like goro goro and satoru

if a player has response of the activation of elesh norn, does the elesh norn still transform?

I think you missed the point that for Jin gitaxias you pretty much only have to activate it once, and then it fuels itself- because of the requirement, you always draw a minimum of 7 cards when he transforms. This ability costs 4. With the price and ward, he's gonna be insane

I got an idea to explorer Urarask and dragons aproach 🤪

Polukranos can be played as an X = 0 commander for shenanigans.

Heliod is a safe pick for the S Tier imo. First card to think of is senseis, just draw ur deck instantly

Mitch, you're dead wrong about Glissa. She builds an army so fast, and the fact that she doesn't need to attack makes a big difference. If you're curving out and getting an incubate token on turn two and three, she suddenly has four tokens to transform. Played against her in the prerelease, and it was dominating. At the very least, high B or A tier.

Omnath GDP(God damn pareators) and I know the gods you know put in with this the Dominis paraders

Flipping jin pretty much wins you the game on the spot, Id say that he could be considered for S tier

I think I forgot squee and slime foot unless I just missed it

I need jolrael for my manlands/gate tribal deck...

No Slimefoot and Squee?

It would be absolutely amazing if you could make them humans somehow, and then moonmist them instead if the cost is too much

Finally. A balanced simic commander.

No shalai and hallar? They're cracked

(it's a long one, sorry!) I'd rank Rona and Ayara higher (A), as both are fine front side and disturbingly abusable flipped. Pinging Rona yourself sounds amazing, and Ayara's "unearth" has no replacement effect, only exiles at end step (unlike the Unearth mechanic and, say, Whip of Erebos), so you can sacrifice the thing before the trigger. Not so high on any Praetor unless the deck proliferates the counters on the Saga side, and assuming the ranking is AS commander, them being monocolored hurts this a little. Sheoldred and Urabrask at A, Norn and Jin-Gitaxias at B and Vorinclex at C, as he's better off in the 99 of decks that can properly profit on searching (non basic) Forests. I'd rank Zurgo and Ojutai lower along with Etali, at B. Etali's front side isn't all that abusable in its colors, but sure, a blink deck wreaks havoc with it. ZaO looks barely ok in a Sneak Attack setup, but I admit Dragon synergies usually perform better than any of the pieces read individually. I think I agree with pretty much everything else.

Wonder who would win, phyrexians or Progenitus...

Orthion would work great with the new Etali

Polukranos + x=0 hydras + beast whispere = fun

Yargle is in Yargle tier

What about the commanders from Prerelease promos?

i'd bump Etali up a tier for the 1 hit k.o., otherwise I agree

What aboht Slimefoot and Squee? Didnt make the cut on this list?

What about slimefoot and Squee?

polukranos when you cast 0/0 Hydras for x=0 makes two 3/3 tokens for 1 mana dude!

Omnath feels like a mistake. He's like Golos in a way: 5 color decks that didn't have a specific commander can just run this guy and they still get all of his benefits. At least he's not colorless!

What about slimefoot and squee?

I think you missed the new Goro Goro

I noticed that slimefoot and squee isn't in here

food chain etali go BRRRR

urabrask is finally not the worst praetor

I though Jolrael was the box topper for a later set?

To All the ur-dragon players out there, will the new Zurgo and Ojutai make it into your list?

Rona being considered B tier is kinda funny since she's good enough to be considered cEDH viable and is a 1 card combo with Wishclaw Talisman.

I find it funny that the ramp/stacks/ Death trigger legend..is an A ? Wth?

Is Nicol Bolas Phyrexian a real card and if it is why isn’t it here?

No Goro Goro and Saturo?

my man really left out squee and slimefoot im so sad hes my favourite card in the set