I'd just like to speak to the person at Disney who decided to name this guy Diggy. That genuinely sounds like a dog's name

The moment I officially backed Mosh was the scene where he overcomes his fear of heights just to suck at a game Maddie loved.

Josh's awkward moments were actually really cute. Diggie's awkward moments were just...awkward

Why do writers LOVE to do the opposite of what the fans want

What is really funny is how Ryan, the actor who plays him hates his character and it kind of shows now when rewatching the show.

Liv was the one who encouraged Maddie to go out with Josh (absolutely loved Mosh) but then also pushed her to be with Diggie in the end 😭

I think in some ways Teddy and Spencer were worse because he literally cheated on Teddy, she wrote a whole song about how much she hated him, and then they got back together.

diggy's actor looks so intimidating sometimes like if you put scary music over his breakup scene with maddie then it could be straight out of a horror movie

Josh deserved better, he was literally the sweetest

Diggie feels like the ex that the family wants her with more than she wants to be with him, who would get invited to holiday dinners even after they broke up who could straight up cheat on her and the family would be all, "I'm sure he's really sorry, maybe you could just give him a chance". And the family would like continue to drop hints about them getting back together even if she was happier with someone else.

Can we give Dove Cameron some major cred, though. Her ability to change her voice so drastically for both her characters. Major cred. That and the mannerisms, I have never seen twins depicted so well. Also, Diggy was written kind of...poorly. He has his moments but he has immature and self-responses as him and Diggy have deeper relationship problems.

i’m so sorry but during that breakup scene it was so hard to take diggie seriously with the braids 💀

I had very mixed feelings when Diggie announced he was leaving for Australia. On the one hand, I was happy that they broke up, but on the other hand, being an Aussie, I was like “Don’t come here, we don’t want you here!!!”

I still remember when the wedding episode premiered and they had fans use a poll the entire episode for stuff. And then when Diggie sang Maddie that song the poll was something like "Who should Maddie choose?" And I'm 90% sure the viewers still choose Josh, I remember it being a close vote but Josh still won. And when Maddie chose Diggie I remember being absolutely pissed. Mosh might have been my very first ship ever. I remember trying to come up with ship names for Maddie & Josh. Mosh Forever!!!!

Honestly I thought the most toxic relationship in this show was Joey and Willow. It’s even more weird when you find out that the actress was actually in her 30’s. So I knew the ship would never happened. Then it surprisingly did but ended quickly. Like it was more about the chase.

what's funny is that Diggy's actor went on to play Jason Dean in heathers, a toxic boyfriend too but this time it's actually interesting

Also, the only time I remember Disney ending a toxic ship "for good" is in Hannah Montana. Miley and Jake were on and off for seasons. Then "He Could Be The One" happened with the voting thing as well (I'll admit I wanted Jake to win when I was younger), and I think Jessie was winning but Miley chose Jake and they dated for a while then Jake cheats on Miley and she finally drops him for good. Then she ends up with Jessie and it's really cute...

Before this video, the only thing I really knew about Diggie is that apparently Ryan was high a bunch of the time on set while acting as Diggie. And based off some of the actions Diggie made, him being high makes sense

Fun fact, Ryan McCartan himself has stated that he wishes Mosh was endgame because of what Diggy did to Maddie (he has a KZfaq channel with his girlfriend and he's mentioned this quite a few times)

I won't lie, I really liked this ship in the beginning because it felt like your typical sweet awkward teen romance (also cuz closeted me was attracted to both of the actors) and I was even sad when they broke up. Then the breakup happened along with the whole toxic Shenanigans and finally, Josh entered the scene which basically was the final nail in the coffin for the ship. All in all, I do think this ship is another example of Disney's "First Couple = End Couple" Phenomenon.

I agree with you, but I also feel like the fandom goes easier on Maddie when it comes to her part in all this. She’s more worried about diggie’s feelings than Holden and Josh. Maddie also only seems upset when people leave her to pursue their interests but wants total support when it’s her leaving. If Maddie really wanted Josh, she could’ve just said so and told diggie to get lost. Josh is the one in this situation who I feel deserves better.

IT SHOULD OF BEEN JOSH AND MADDIE 😭

I binge-watched this series in a fit of deep depression and had NO idea it was one actress.

It makes me even more mad that the episode where Holden and Liv break up is the episode where Diggy comes back. Way to make me even more upset.

I don’t think they started out toxic. They were kind of cute. He memorized all of Maddie’s little mannerisms. He tried hard to get her dad to respect him. They got toxic when he went abroad. Ok, it makes sense he could not come back at first because his parents already paid, could not get a return on the deposit, etc. Not mad at that. I just don’t like how he acted like a jerk about it and did not resoect Maddie’s feelings. Fine, you do you and go on another abroad program. That is what you want to do and you are young. Take almost every opportunity you get. However, he should have said it this way, “Maddie I am sorry. I have to see the world while I have a chance. This can also grant me more college opportunities. It is my senior year.” He could have been nicer about it and talked to her first and explained his feelings while listening to hers. The breakup could be mutual. He did not care about coming back for her jntil he saw her with someone else. What? I hate thus trope. Don’t go after someone who is already happy with someone else. I get Josh could not stay forever, but he truly liked and respected her. He made her happy and listened to her. Why did she choose Diggy?

I like Ryan as JD in Heathers. He seems too mature to pull off the Disney channel innocence.

The look on Maddie's face when she sees Diggy again always breaks my heart. She was hoping he wouldn't come back

I'm sorry, but seeing Diggy appear suddenly from Australia really creeped me out. Yeah, it hurts to see someone you dated with someone else, but instead of taking the loss or even calling her to ask her about the situation, he just randomly shows up expecting her to take him back without any consideration to how that backs her into a corner. If their relationship had been healthy, maybe this would have been a more heart-throbbing gesture, but because Diggy frequently disregarded her feelings in the past I can't help but feel this is just another situation where Diggy puts what he wants before Maddie's feelings. I'm sad too that Josh at the end also assumed he knew what Maddie "needed" and didn't ask her what she genuinely wanted.

AGREED AGREED THAT SHIP WILL SINK AND BURN IN HELLL

Mosh is superior and Miggie is a ship I despise!! I felt so bad for josh because diggie sings a song that isn't even his and then they get back together and josh is left but he is friends with joey so that's nice 😂🤣

Josh was respectful even when maddie liked diggy better. meanwhile diggy continously left maddie for an antarctica 2.0 i think we all know whos better

maddie and diggie are basically just the embodiment of everyones first highschool relationship

The moral of the story is never date a guy named diggie lol ty for the likes

That scene at the end where dumptruck says he’s a mosh shipper was what made him one of my favorite characters (obviously with some other things too. the dude is an icon) ALSO. I feel that scene was disneys way of like.. giving us what they owed us ig? cause I’m 1000% sure disney probably got a lot of hate when Maddie chose diggie, and all the characters seemed to be fine with it (I really don’t understand that honestly) but then dumptruck says what all of the fans watching are thinking which I think is kinda cool

Diggy isn’t a character. He’s a plot device to make things more dramatic and exciting for the kiddos who watch the show, and to move the story where the writers think will get the best feedback

If I were his parents, I would be so angered! Dude just tossed money around (exchange programs are pricey, not to mention plane tickets) and screwed the timeline of his future to basically guilt his ex into dating him again?! If he pulled that crap with college, they'd likely just take the fund away since he clearly can't make sound decisions with it.

I feel like Digging became an exchange student because Maddie was leaving for Junior Olympics. He didn't want to be in Steven's Point without her. If she had gone to Junior Olympics, I wonder how the long distance dynamic would have been between Maddie and Diggie if she was the one who left instead of him.

I would soooooooo love to see a vid on Holden and Liv, literally my favourite disney channel ship ugh

The amount of money these teenagers would’ve been spending on flights is insane

As you put it in 21:54, MIGGIE RUINED LOLDEN!!!! That was my final official sign. Mosh and Lolden should've been Endgame

going over this makes me realise that they really weren't that bad at all in the beginning. yes, diggy wasn't happy about the junior olympics but he was supportive in the end and found himself other things to do while supporting Maddie through the distance, and it makes sense for him to want to explore the world more when there's only one person tying him to Steven's Point. he was a bit of a jerk about communication but their first breakup felt really natural, and was understandable, then the breakup at the airport felt like a healthy way to end things. they should have ended the story there. if he was that bothered about Maddie and Josh, he should've just called her rather than upending everything he left for and everything Maddie had built after he left.

Dump Truck is the best side character on Liv and Maddie (not just because of his taste in ships).

can we just show the way Josh has been respecting Maddies wishes without her even saying it? he just let's her go after diggy because he saw that there were still some unfinished feelings

MOSH 4 LIFE WE NEED A REBOOT

please do teddy and Spencer from good luck Charlie next

Okay but on a BETTER note, the actor who played Maddie 2 got married to the guy who played Josh a week ago!!!

okay, and hear me out, when I watched this years ago on DC I genuinely thought this was the best, MOST HEALTHY ship on Disney. I am now starting to connect the dots, and now fully understand why I will most definitely die alone. Thank you. 👍

I know this is about Miggy but can we talk about how great of an actress that Dove Cameron is, being able to have "two different kinds of relationships" with Diggy and Josh, playing as both Maggie and Liv?

i absolutely love Dumptruck's scene in the finale, he was really speaking our minds and i love that you included it here!

Maddie and Diggie are seriously just the Disney Channel version of Carrie and Mr. Big from Sex and the City…

honestly the ship that pisses me off the most is spencer and teddy. spencer seemed like an alright guy, then cheats on teddy out of the blue, they break up. teddy and the other girl spencer cheated on become friends. write a song together to expose spencer. a while later, teddy gets a new boyfriend, and is faced with the same dilemma maddie had: "should i stay with my nice boyfriend that really appreciates me, or should i get back together with my toxic ex that was no good for me?" aaand of course picks the toxic ex that doesn't deserve her. because, why not ruin a good thing while you have it? smh.

Even Ryan McCartan has said in videos that maddie and josh were way better and that disney made a huge mistake

This couple started my toxic habit of sticking to the first main couple in every show😂

Diggie as a character is a serious case of character whiplash, first I couldn't help but feel sorry for him when Maddie and everyone else was mad at him when he went to tundrabania even though Maddie was going to the junior Olympics and wasn't going to see him anyway. Then when he was going to Australia he apparently wanted to do all of that again over the span of like two hours even though Maddie made it clear how hard it was, but at the same time it's the Junior Olympics situation in reverse and there should be some support. But then he comes back solely to sabotage Maddie and Josh's relationship and I lost the little sympathy I had, she tells him thre times ( 3 TIMES) that she is with someone else but still pressures her to be with him even on stage. By the end of the series I swear Edward and Jacob are looking at this guy and are calling him a creepy bastard

Fun fact: The actor who plays Diggie also played J.D. in the Off-Broadway Heathers production.

Honestly him making Maddie choose between himself and Josh greatly reminds me of a Big Time Rush relationship thing.

I really liked Diggie at the beginning. But obviously, I completely agree with you on how ridiculous and awful he is. And Josh really is one of the best characters on the show.

"time to talk about maddie and diggie for 20 mintues" me: notices the video is 27 minutes long. Welp, time to get comfortable. xD

FINALLY SOMEONE COVERS THIS. When I first watched the series, I enjoyed the Miggy ship. When it broke up, it didn't really matter though. When Mosh happened that was honestly the best ship in that series. When Maddie got with Diggy again I actually wanted to punch a wall. Josh was so much better, and Diggy just sucks. I'm so glad someone finally talked about this.

Ryan McCartan, the actor who played Diggy actually said he thinks Maddie and Josh should have ended up together and shipped there relationship.

Maddie and Diggie: “We’re one of the most toxic ships of all time!” Tessa and Hardin: *HOLD OUR POISON* Edit: I know they aren’t Disney but I hate Tessa and Hardin so much that I take any chance I can to shit on them

"What's not to understand, Digbert?" Lmfaoooo

Diggie also being the reason liv and holden broke up BOILS MY BLOOD I LOVED HOLDEN AND LIV and Josh 😭 poor Josh he deserved so much better

So mad that she got back with Diggy, Josh was a lot more fun and had a personality outside of liking and dating Maddie, plus he was SO CUTE

The breaking up and getting back together thing reminds me so much of Teddy and Spencer, minus the cheating stuff, of course.

I don't even remember Diggie very much, yet i remember everyone else.

i love that break up scene by the way ryan is holding his head makes it look like he was worried about the braid clip falling off of him 😭

using glowing in the dark for the relationship part is SENDING ME

Your description of the finale will be used as the official in my brain from now on . Thank you so much, I needed that clousure.

I’d love to see you make a video talking about where you think Disney channel characters are now/what their stories were after the show! Basically what you did with Maddie at the end of the video.

22:00 Liv and Holden breaking up because of Diggie is just ughhh no words

unrealted but i was just rewatching the episodes of I didn't do it that had the logan/jas ship, and I was impressed that they only had 6 episodes or so dedicated to that ship yet they hold a big place in my memory of the show

I have ALWAYS loved Dove's acting during the first breakup of Miggie. It's so good😭😭 I teared up all over again like I was 12 years old watching the scene for the first time omg 😭

I love how chill you are when you talk about this even though you're honest about not liking it. I've noticed this quality when you're talking about things you like too, which is why I clicked on this video despite not having watched this show. I just enjoy being surrounded by non-judgmental fandom. And with your videos I can tell you're really just hear to have fun. So thanks and I'll see you again in a future video!

3:26 I never really liked Dove but after the "accusations" I really disliked her. Him being "terrible" it's just her way to say they were different and fought a lot. She wasn't a kid so she could have handled the situation better cause it had a lot of backlash to Ryan that he didn't deserve at all. Personally I'd wish she spoke about this thing or at least clarify what she meant by "terrible", since I don't think he was abusive but rather incompatible.

Diggie: Dumb jock who doesn't pay attention to what Maddie wants or care about it Also Diggie: Can pick up mannerisms that tell him which one is which even when one is posing as the other

I absolutely love your own ending to the show! I was obsessed with this show as a child, and even then, I still adored Josh by a landslide!

Just watched an almost half hour video on a ship from a show I've never seen and I was still so entertained

I still can't believe that as she chose Diggy over Josh. 😭😭😭

The timing is perfect!!! I mean just like a week ago I decided to watch the story of Miggie on Disney plus, watching mostly scenes with the both of them only, to literally understand better why their relationship was unhealthy according to you. I only knew a little bit about him going to Australia and leaving Maddie or something, but other than that, nothing else, so I wasn't really sure why it was so toxic. And now just a few days ago I pretty much finished their storyline after finishing the third season of the show, and now you make a video about them, so It's just so coincidental and I couldn't love it more!!!! While watching them on Disney plus I was literally wondering about your thoughts on certain scenes, so now thanks to this video I know all of them!!!! It's so cool. I'm pretty glad that at the end you don't actually hate them that much, bc even tho Diggie abandoned Maddie, at least they never cheated on each other and they remained strongly in love till' the end. I find it almost worse than what happened between them when a couple is dating and cheating happens. In my honest opinion, Maddie and Diggie were fine until he decided to go to Australia. That's exactly the point where their relationship went downhill, and should've ended as well.

The music in the background being the girl and the dreamcatcher hahah iconic 😂

I fully agree with you on every level I’m so sad they got back together when it’s a toxic relationship

I have never watched a single second of this show before but damn that break up scene was flawless. I don’t think I’ve ever seen acting like that on disney channel, dove is incredible.

To quote Dumptruck “I’m a Josh fan. Team Mosh, forever” Right there with ya bro

Ryan McCarten (diggy) actually has a KZfaq channel with his current girlfriend named Samantha and he has gone on record (I believe) that Dove and his relationship was toxic on both sides. And considering Dove was sort up suppresing her Bisexualality at the time they were dating this makes sense.

even when I was a kid their relationship always felt really weird, I remembered being so confused why they were still together

I dated a guy like Diggy, after this trip he became so different and watching this I literally was like wth, did I accidentally manifest this.

I love Ryan. And I also like Dove. But I do absolutely not like them together, I think they weren't good for each other at all. I'm so happy Ryan is in an amazing relationship with Sam. And that Dove is also doing so well with her music and all.

I like your ending better than the way the show ended with them together

Reading the comments and seeing MOSH everywhere makes me so so happy and honestly they were just better and I feel like Maddie was really comfortable with Josh.

It's ironic how so many shows will superglue themselves to the idea of a specific couple, only to introduce one or more that is objectively better, but is treated like a stepping stone. The "will they won't they" trope is only detrimental, as the longer a show goes on for, the more accidentally revealing it is in regards to the lack of emotional maturity of both people of the endgame couple. If they wanted each other, they'd ask each other out.

Also this just reminds me of how often disney had main characters end up with their first love interest trope. I cant stand it, just because two people had a thing before doesnt mean they have to end up together by the end of the show.

I can't wait for you to make a video on Lutteo, no matter if it's 8 hours long, I will totally watch the entire thing!!!!

As someone who barely dated anyone, had a toxic relationship and had a bi awakening--I FEEL YOU DOVE.

His name being diggy is enough for a villain origin

I actually love the fact that you used clips from The Girl and the Dreamcatcher songs to separate the different sections!

Maddie and Diggy’s relationship pissed be off bc Diggy never cared for her feelings. Josh literally played treehouse horse with Maddie knowing good and well that he’s afraid of heights just to show that he cared. That says a lot more than Diggy just getting back from Tundrabania and the. Immediately after saying he’s going to the other side of the world for an “exchange” program. I secretly think that he had a sidechick that he was following through the world that Maddie never knew about.

Off topic but but Caitlin’s dimple every time she talks is so endearing

This was such a great video, very well spoken and laid out. But I also want to say that you are so pretty

I work with a lot of teenagers, so I hear stories about relationships all the time. Honestly these Disney Channel shows hit the nail on the head a lot of the time. Young people are all going through all kinds of stuff, so it makes sense that they make stupid decisions. They’re all learning and trying to figure themselves out and in that process they often hurt other people without realizing it. Toxic relationships are the norm at least with the highschoolers that I work with.