A movie about the behind-the-scenes of making Robotech and the legal issues surrounding it would make a better movie. If nothing else, there's a really good documentary hidden underneath all the legal drama.

Isn't that what this is?

It'll be the next Jodorowsky's Dune

Shiiiiii… the third coming of Jesus will have happened by the time we ever get a Robotech movie!

I just watched that movie here. kinda wandered in the middle. XD

Just like the SDF-3 from Robotech

​@Darkgod777 wait until he find out about what happened to the Megaroad from Flashback 2012...

Entropy

Two words, Harmony Gold

Well Harmony Gold can be blamed for some of that drama...lets just say that they do really honest practices in the business.

Don't forget to break out the unseen.

I see what you did there.

Love veteran of psychic wars

"All I want to be is a lover! Not some red-eyed screaming ghoul. Why couldn't it have picked another, To be it's killing tool?... BLACK BLADE!"

And we do have Voltes V: Legacy before Robotech. And it's fantastic!

Don't forget the wing commander movie before robotech.

Yay, a getter robo live action movie is coming!

Didn't one of the project leads step away from it?

@@cobrapanic Yeah, because he wanted to do an original story while the rest of the crew wanted to make a 1:1 of the manga. They’re still on track to deliver the pitch trailer in March 2024.

I was 10 when this came out too, and man did my brother and I haaaaaaaate min-mei, and more so hated how Rick kept shafting Lisa over her.

Min mei was ahead of her time, she's a lot like the entitled females of the current generation. Lisa was wifey material and Rick was a prick.

@@mauirixxx And considering that it was Xor who turned out to be Lin Min Mei’s son who started the whole Robotech storyline to begin with by traveling back in time to meet his mother (Xor’s father is not Rick Hunter, but Bretai {the Xentrani alien} ) confused yet ?

I thought Min Mei was a babe

I was in HS and went home immediately after school every day to watch this.

The best American homage to real robot anime for sure.

It was great and kind of still holds up

that shit eas banging as a kid but i still have great memories from the Robitech books

I remember me and my brother watched it an also bought the toys from Toy's R Us.

As a long time fan i second this. We lost the LAMs pretty early on, I could live with that, but the Marauder, Warhammer, and Archer were just too much! (You can keep the OST series, they sucked anyways)

The only reason I heard of harmony gold is because of BattleTech. Even though I watched robotech as a kid, I never really cared for it

@@RecklessFables I can understand that. Even as a full on American Otaku I'd have to say Robotech is any extremely important historical work, but just an ok anime. It was given to an American culture that was mostly ignorant of animation and not properly introduced to the correct age group to boot. It's aged about as well as one would expect from anime of the time (but watch a couple episodes next to the original G.I.joe, probably be surprising now). It was the storytelling that was so different, it just wasn't very American for the time. Transformers had a (sort of) similar beginning but was HEAVILY Americanized, made a huge difference right?

Yeah, I liked Star Blazers though :) @@mikylak7983

@@mikylak7983 Ah, the Marauder my love...I do like the OG design more but the current one is good.

And slowly erodes Dan's will to live.

The whole Robotech storyline is a timeloop (read up on the entire Robotech storyline, you might want to have something alcoholic on hand)

Only thing I know about Robotech past the initial three series episodes is the Jack McKinney novels. I've considered them canon for ages over the actual show because of how much heavy lifting it does to bridge the seperate series better. The last one I read was the End of a Circle, which the special kids (I forget why they were special) pulled from the past the missing fold generator from the SDF1 as they needed one in the future or something. Is that the loop you're talking about?

@@alekesamthat’s one time loop, another one is when at the beginning of Robotech:Macross when what becomes the SDF 1 crashed in the South Pacific, that was Zor putting the Protoculture in what he thought was a safe place, so he sends the SDF 1 back through the past, that protoculture was used to power the Veritech fighter jets (oops 🤦‍♂️)

Imagine if Transformers found themselves in the world of a Robotech ! They’d be like WTF? Are those humans piloting….corpses!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep crying! 🤡

That would have been so on-brand for this channel, I'm almost disappointed they didn't.

@@richlo8887 Um ... nobody is crying ... except maybe ...

@@UberNoodle Yes, you can keep crying. Robotech is the superior product!

The culture war have been going on aince before the 1950s What are you talking about?

@@trunkage Dude, 'protoculture' is a Robotech reference. He wasn't talking about the 'culture wars' at all. It was merely a comment about this whole fiasco that the video was about.

@@trunkagehe said Protoculture war, not culture war, Lol. Clueless!

Yack deculture!

Ditto!! The Spanish dub also has a very bad ova of a certainmarriedge u don't see on macross

@@aztecklover69 The marriage between Max Hunter, and Miriam who is a Xentrani (sp) ?

yeah it was the most magical coolest thing I'd ever seen in my 5 year old life

I own the entire box set on dvd

@@Nonce746 💯

Same here. I fell in love with the show when I first watched it back then, and I was glued to the set every morning before school, which was when our local station showed it. I have to confess, I thought the Southern Cross part was kind of "meh." It was alright, but just filler. The Mospeada part was quite enjoyable, but the Macross part was _great._ I was always thrilled when the series rolled around and they restarted the Macross part. I tried watching a release of an English language version of the original Macross series a few years ago. It had different voice actors, and it kept the original Japanese names of the characters -- Hikaru Ichijyo, Misa Hayase, Maximilian Jenius, etc. -- and I just couldn't enjoy it as much. Maybe it's nostalgia, but I still just prefer the version I grew up with. I watched the Star Blazers 2199 update to the old, 1970s Star Blazers/Space Battleship Yamato series, and it's a _fantastic_ update, genuinely better than the original, IMHO. This is how to remake an old anime series and do it right. But it made me reflect rather sadly that there's no way Robotech could get such an update, at least not the version I'd prefer. It would inevitably be a Macross only update if it happened, and that might be something most fans would rather see, but what can I say? I still prefer the Robotech adaptation I fell in love with as a kid.

Robotech WAS cool. The story lines weren't just "for kids." That and the overarching story are what sucked me in.

They didn't lose to Piranha Games. They settled out of court. This is obvious if you paid attention. Basically Piranha paid HG (and Tats, BigWest, SN) enough money to make them go away with certain stipulations.

The Mech redesigns look more industrial and I love it.

@@BrooklynRedLeg the judge also ruled that the lawsuits vs Catalyst and battletech (HG tried to claim the Atlas as part of the PGI suit) has no merit with the new settlement agreement and dismissed any litigation with prejudice over the unseen

@@stevemcnabb9461 - When you settle out of court, you ask a judge to vacate. That's WHY its settled out of court. There is a contract and money obviously changed hands. BigWest was about to enter the lawsuit. That was what the Letter of Rogotary was going to ask for and once BW/SN (who, btw, DEMANDED Harmony Gold defend their mutual IP rights), Piranha was going to get its ass shredded, since BW/SN retained the Authorial Rights (as in the rights to make Derivative Works) to SDF Macross. BigWest and Harmony Gold buried the hatchet after this, btw, which is why everything past Flashback 2012 is now coming to the West. The audit between Tatsunoko and Harmony Gold, btw found that Tatsunoko, not HG, was in debt to HG to the tune of over $1 million USD from HG helping with the Tats/BW lawsuit in the early 2000s. That's why the rights to SDF Macross, Genesis Climber MOSPEADA and SDC Southern Cross were renewed between them (1mil is a lot of clams for 3 shows that are now 40 years old). The lawsuit between HG & Catalyst was a separate matter altogether and the fact the Judge dismissed it with prejudice is irrelevant to the fact of the Unseen.

​@@BrooklynRedLegsettled, but I doubt they paid them much if anything. Probably more of leave us alone and we'll won't take this to trial. You can see that since Catalyst Game Labs was in default and yet they are still using designs that look closer to the anime Mecha than PGI.

I grew up in the 80,s I missed the ending last 7 episodes vacation 30 years later I buy DVDs 1 2 4 5 6 and watch the ending for the first time from a pawn shop. Now I'm 50 years old and I've never got to see seasons 2 and 3 and realize I'm probably gonna die before I do. I'm strongly considering watching the Japanese versions that some made English dub if they exist.

I heard they are actually releasing all of Macross officially. I grew up with Robotech and loved it. Even when I got older I read the novels. Then Macross came to me via a 7th or 8th gen dubbed VHS. I watched that thing everyday for like a month. I remember being ecstatic to get my hands on Macross 2012 VHS and Mecha Graffiti. I met Carl Macek once. He was selling a VHS of the subbed Macross Saga. Seemed like a nice enough guy. It was at an anime convention called Anime East.

As a battletech tabletop player, I agree wholeheartedly.

harmony gold is a tumor

As a battletech fan yes

The Macross story is the Robotech story. You're an idiot if you think the one and done Macross story only failed to continue because of Harmony Gold. That third series, Southern Cross, was so bad it killed the Japanese company that made it. And to them, Harmony Gold succeeded in making it watchable, a near miracle. It took over a decade for anything new for Macross to appear in the later part of the 1990s.

@@MilitaryStyx So Say We All!

"SDF Macross" was already remastered and released on DVD many years ago. Since the licensing is held by HG, there will likely be no upgrade or release in the near future. "Macross 7" and Macross Frontier" are floating in limbo since Sony absorbed Right Stuf/Nozomi who acquired the licensing rights and planned to release them this year but now... At least we're getting "Macross Plus" and "Macross II". Old before new, I guess... "The Sentinels" has been disregarded and is no longer considered canon. The "Shadow Rising" trademark was abandoned well over ten years ago.

​@@fiveoctaves "Macross Plus" and "Macross II" have been availble in (at least Canadian) iTunes store for a decade something already. Not something new I believe. Source: I searched keywords like Gundam and Macross from time to time there.

I'll be honest, finding out if Secret Galaxy knew anything I didn't about what was going to happen to the later Macross series after Right Stuf got taken over by Crunchyroll is why I watched this video​, and I'm still frustrated.

@@kelmcclanahan4885 Big West wants media releases but Crunchyroll is probably only interested in streaming which also means a dub. The parties do not want the same thing but Sony still holds the rights for now. We'll be frustrated for a while.

@@fiveoctaves remastered macross along with southern cross and mospeada were available on amazon a decade back, free with prime. They are still available at $2/ep and I wish I knew where to actually purchase media or downloadable copies, because it's something I keep circling back to and don't trust streaming services to maintain availability.

I'll never forgive them for this. (and all the other stuff as well)

I'll leave it to others to correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure SDF Macross and DYRL content is being made unavailable worldwide for that game with the exception of Japan itself. The developer's solution to the debacle has apparently been to make the SDF Macross and DYRL content free DLC, but again...only for those who live in Japan.

@@delta7890 You are correct sir, to help make it easier to get the game out, the SDFM/DYRL content was made into a separate DLC. Honestly a smart move. Now still waiting on the US steam release.

Yes, because there was a legal agreement a few years back where things were officially hashed out. HG officially has the licensing rights for SDFM and DYRL therefore anything from those shows must go through HG approval or else. Everything else Macross is fair game worldwide now. It's why the recent Hidetaka Tenjin art books only cover Flashback to Delta but there's a third book in Japan that was all SDFM/DYRL.

@@danielcraig9666 HG does not have the licensing right to DYRL but they now hold the rights to the character and mech designs for SDF Macross and nearly all the DYRL designs are identical. Macross media made 1987 and later is available for international distribution with going through HG so from Flashback 2012 and on but DYRL is the one title that stays in Japan.

Exosquad was what brought the founders of MAHQ together.

I had the green and blue mechs as a kid, some of the best toys I've ever owned. I remember them fondly.

If nothing else, I think how the original writers connected the three animes together is fascinating as a behind-the-scenes factoid. In general, I like both Macross and Robotech, and I think there's room for both to exist. Both the stupidity on both sides, (Harmony Gold and the Japanese owners), have created a legal system where neither benefited from it.

Really? I loathe them because they made goku zero and korin whiskers the wonder cat.

This is a compilation video of all of those Robotech videos remastered and re-edited into 1 long saga, and even this is basically incomplete.

I just got done watching the entire thing … this is the longest video on KZfaq I actually paid attention to …

@@mauirixxx then You’ve got a LOT of work to do. Board game and video game reviews are an hour and a half regularly now. I watched a review of every shooter on PC ENGINE that was 5+ hours long.

@@darinherrick9224 pc engine … now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a few decades!

​@@2lobo777 just like Robotech 😂

idk if youve ever seen them but the sentinels novels etc continue the series past the cartoon quite a bit. As far as i know, the shadow chronicles movie was the final piece of story that we got and it ended on a cliffhanger of sorts.

@@darnellfelix8114 I will have to look into the Sentinel series. I’m curious about it. I have seen Chronicles and enjoyed it. Thx! ✌🏼

@@henrymatos9551 sentinels happens before southern cross. They make an sdf3 with the factory satellite and go to tirol to meet the robotech masters unaware that a bunch of them had left for earth. Worse they didn't repair the fold systems properly so the trip was instant but they were gone from earth for a long time. They encounter the Invid invading tirol. You get cameos from chars like scot Bernard, you meet and ally with the haydonites and other races etc. Ends with humanity sending waves of armies back to earth to try to retake it from the Invid as seen in robotech next Gen. There's actually a bit of tirol being invaded by the Invid before the sdf3 appears, on KZfaq as they were adapting it as a cartoon but plans got scrapped.

Also the same year i saw Thundercats and StrTrk:tng.

Gundam 0083 would be another option for that.

@@mightyrobot42 I'VE GOT A BURNIN' LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE

​@@NebLleb🎵"I wanna get a chance!"🎵

From a strictly universe-building standpoint the Macross universe is more interesting. Macross Delta made it clear that humanity colonized a good chunk of the galaxy. Robotech is still fairly post-apocalyptic.