The Mountain vs The Red Viper! - How It Happened In The Books? (A Song of Ice and Fire)

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Welcome back for another Game of Thrones and A Song of Ice and Fire video. In this video, I will describe what happened when The Mountain fought The Red Viper in the books. The fight between Gregor Clegane and Oberyn Martell was one of the most shocking moments in television history. This was one of those scenes that caught almost everyone off guard. It went on to become a classic moment from Game of Thrones. But how did this scene play out in George R.R. Martin's books? How faithful was this adaptation? Check out the video and find out. Thanks for watching!
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@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

This message is for those who haven't read the books. Have you ever wondered how certain scenes from the show played out in the books? Let me know if there are others you want to see/hear in a video format. Thanks for watching!

@swaggerdagger5168 3 жыл бұрын

I think a video on the chapter where Bran, Meera, Hodor, Jojen, and Coldhands finally reach the cave north of the wall in ADWD would be super cool! I just recently read through that chapter, and it’s pretty intense. I know they did something similar in the show, but I feel like since it’s the first chapter in the series where anyone comes across a child of the forest... well I’m guessing that makes it pretty damn special and significant lol. Also little comments from Coldhands such as “the cave is warded” I feel are important as well. That was just a chapter that had a really cool and spooky vibe for me, would love to hear your take on it!

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

Please do book Dorne vs show Dorne. lmao 😂

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

I did the Red Wedding a few years ago, when I first started the series. Here ya go. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acpzYLOFmMu5fIE.html

@458joey 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for everything you do for us. I look everyday for a new video from you and I am sorry for being so greedy, but when I don't see one I get so disappointed. Not with you though. I cant help it. Thats How much I like your videos.

@swaggerdagger5168 3 жыл бұрын

@@458joey diving deep into A Song of Ice and Fire lore (anything ASOIAF-related, really) is the best form of escapism to help us all get through this goddamn pandemic. I second this sincere thank you :)

@macleunin 3 жыл бұрын

"Today is not the day I die" Oberyn Martell- The day he died

@BiswajitBhattacharyaottalika 3 жыл бұрын

Syrio Forel: What do we say to the God of Death?... Not today God of Death: Hold my Braavosi Coin.

@hardwirecars 3 жыл бұрын

Morgan Freeman: It was the day he died.

@labrat7382 2 жыл бұрын

He was quite the jokester

@SubjectDelta20 Жыл бұрын

Those are good last words. Another favorite of mine is " Hey guys, check this out."

@willmckenzie9162 Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@StrasnusDude 3 жыл бұрын

The performance of Pedro Pascal as Oberyn Martell is so iconic and has landed him more iconic roles.

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. He made Oberyn one of my favorite characters. He did so much, with so little time.

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones the defining factor that made season4 even more engaging than the others. A starbust, before it started dying. But honestly ep. 9 and 10 of season6 were the starbust of the game of thrones for me.

@Tango8787 2 жыл бұрын

I could have watched an entire show dedicated to him. Pedro did such a great job. I had no idea who he was before GoT but best believe I know exactly who he is now. Kudos to whoever was in casting. The perfect actors for Mountain and Oberyn and pretty much everyone.

@mathieuouellet6762 2 жыл бұрын

This is the way

@jimsty5222 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Great actor. I'm just glad he got his day in the sun. Hopefully it lasts for a long, long time.

@nutter789 3 жыл бұрын

The moment Gregor Clegane sweeped Oberyns leg, I gasped. Then I froze as I watched Gregor push his thumbs into Oberyns eyes and crush his skull. It hit me so bad, I couldn't move nor think. I had to watch it again afterwards, this was one of the most shocking scenes from GOT but nothing is sadder than The Red Wedding...

@aegontargaryen9322 3 жыл бұрын

The red wedding and the Russian roulette scene ( the ones with the Vietnamese making them do it )in the Deer Hunter are the two most gripping scenes in all of moviedom ( in my opinion )

@Smoothsmoothie 3 жыл бұрын

I was a lot more devastated over this

@Pkjkpjkpkj 3 жыл бұрын

Hodor, is one of them. Can't ignore

@nutter789 3 жыл бұрын

@@Smoothsmoothie I was more devastated about Clegane surviving, that's just devastating for the Martels. Oberyn had an ace in the hole polishing his spear with poison yet the Mountain survived after crushing Oberyns skull while admitting loudly he raped Oberyns sister, killed her and her children... Savage

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 3 жыл бұрын

I had most of the got spoilt when I started watching a few years ago, eg this moment. But red wedding was a complete shock to me, I stared at the wall for an hour after that ep.

@RikJSmith 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite Scene of the entire Series is the discussion between Oberyn and Tyrion that ended with Oberyn offering to be his Champion. And Oberyn was definitely my favorite Character. Love this Video.

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

I love that scene too. The acting was incredible.

@Zach-sx8cm 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn is the best and I love that scene too, but nothing beats "Hold the door!" for me!

@darkaero 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn was only around for a short time in both the books and the show but was an instant favorite among basically everyone who read or watched.

@ezequielstepanenko3229 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn had a lot more dialogues in the books, and was even more epic, every word he spoke was like a viper's poison waiting his moment of vengeance

@Adenn 3 жыл бұрын

The best thing is that the scene you are talking about, was Pedro Pascal's first day on set

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

Pedro Pascal nailed it

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

He was so damn good. He made the character better than he already was.

@desmondgentle1474 3 жыл бұрын

And Hafthor Bjornsson crushed it. I'm not sorry

@ezequielstepanenko3229 3 жыл бұрын

@@desmondgentle1474 I would've preferred the first mountain, he was better

@markanthony1004 3 жыл бұрын

@@ezequielstepanenko3229 Was he though?

@markmorose 3 жыл бұрын

Pedro pascal should be in more stuff.

@michelesilva9491 3 жыл бұрын

Oh how I loved this fight. Right up til when the mountain grabs Oberyn. I loved the way the viper fought, so quick and graceful almost like a dance. He was amazing. What a scene.

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@wrynightraven5255 2 жыл бұрын

The minute he started gliding around with excellent footwork, you just knew he could beat the mountain

@robpolaris5002 Жыл бұрын

But his lack of respect for the mountain’s true strength did him in.

@Daemon3rdBlackfyre 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn will forever be my favorite character. I wish he would’ve survived the trial

@davidhutchinson5233 3 жыл бұрын

You're not alone. He would have been epic for the rest of the seasons. Pedro Pascal is so talented.

@alexeiharp7676 3 жыл бұрын

Me too but he was way too driven by his emotions and justice to survive Kings Landing and that trial, that happened before awesome characters got plot armors

@mrender1016 3 жыл бұрын

@melissablackwood 3 жыл бұрын

Was horrified when I read it, but at least I was warned when it came time for that scene in the show. I still fast-forward through the fight. Not so much because of the gore, but because it makes me sad and angry. Oberyn HAD it. He had it in the bag, and he effed up.

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

He sure did... He fumbled the damn ball right at the goal line.

@janiscmc4105 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones Damn his arrogance!!!!!!!!!!

@mercyjokes2d696 3 жыл бұрын

@@janiscmc4105 It was his grief over his sister. He could have ever walked away without the final blow and would have been safe. His need for the confession in his grief got him killed.

@sirtype-alot3391 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones Oberyn Fumbled the Ball at the Goal Line and the Mountain Picked up the ball and ran it back 100 yds for the Win

@erikkarlsson9192 3 жыл бұрын

I watch that fight scene several times over every time, but I think the actual fighting is quite slow. At least when Oberyn is landing significant hits. It bothers me more than it should, but if it wasn't for the like 1 second wait before hamstringing the Mountain and stuff the fight would look magnificient. The one scene that makes me sad and angry is Shireen's death. That one is truly brutal. Though I never back down from it, even though it almost makes me cry every time.

@SevenPr1me 3 жыл бұрын

Its important to note that Oberyn wanted to fight the mountain in the Trial because it would mean there would be no POLITICAL repercussion for it, because he cant just kill a knight of a kingdom if youre a foriegnor but the Trial by Combat granted him diplomatic immunity

@timothythorne9182 3 жыл бұрын

After this scene in the books, Tyrion becomes so dark I love it. The show ruined him. He could've been so much better

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. His character became extremely bland after he left King's Landing in the show. They didn't know what to do with him. They didn't know what to have him say.

@timothythorne9182 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones the worst part about that is... It's all written in the books. At least up until Meereen. But they wanted to call Jon Snow Aegon, so they had to leave out the whole Rhoyne storyline. If only they stuck to the story instead of trying to be creative, Tyrion would've had everything he needed to be an interesting character

@ElmoElmoSWAZILAND 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones hi

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

D&D were more interested in cringe worthy fanfictions(aka R+L=J)

@timothythorne9182 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera R+L=J is a GRRM thing though. D&D just didn't do it right

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

Elia is one of the most tragic characters in asoiaf. GRRM introduced Elia and her kids to show us the cruel side of Rhaegar

@mzothuledlamini7601 3 жыл бұрын

The cruel side of Robert too

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

@@mzothuledlamini7601 Robert isn't cruel like Rhaegar. Robert isn't perfect, but he's not cruel as Rhaegar

@mzothuledlamini7601 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera you're delusional man. At worst Rhaegar is a selfish idiot. Robert on the otherhand walked over said bodies of Elia and her children smiling.

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

@@mzothuledlamini7601 Rhaegar Abandoned his sick wife and little children. He left his own little children to be butchered. What's the difference between Craster and Rhaegar? Both let their little children to be butchered. What Rhaegar did was worse

@mzothuledlamini7601 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera dude you do know Robert was going to kill them himself if they weren't already dead??

@gutspraygore 3 жыл бұрын

The Viper was as charismatic in the show as he was in the books. They did a great job with the fight.

@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын

I've always read and watched Oberyn's way of fighting to be similar to water dancing. Or maybe because Oberyn has seen so much of Westeros and Essos that he probably took the best "moves" from each fighting style and incorporated that into his own personal fighting style? This scene also kills me bc all I can imagine is Gregor, Tywin's Mad Dog, doing what he did to Elia and her children. And worse, how I would feel if that was what happened to my sister. I thought Pedro Pascal did an EXCELLENT job portraying a grieving brother with vengeance and fury in his heart, strengthening his ability to try to murder the Mountain.

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

Elia is one of the most mistreated characters in asoiaf. What happened to Elia and her children are the reason I hate characters like Tywin and Rhaegar. Rhaegar is worse. He left his own children to be butchered

@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera Elia is never heard or seen but she is probably one of the most tragic characters (along with her children) in the entire story. And I also despise Tywin for ordering her death. I do believe that Tywin told Gregor basically to get rid of the 3 of them. And Gregor was a known rapist and brutal killer. I also immediately disliked Robert Baratheon for his glee when he saw the dead "dragonseeds", especially since he is also part "dragonseed". I weep for Elia and how she was treated. I don't envision her as a weak person, but rather I envision her as a fierce mother, who spent her last minutes trying to save her children. She stood no chance against the Mountain, but I believe that she fought tooth and nail to save her babies.

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTam0613 tywin is so cruel. It's not just the deaths of Elia Martell and her children. What happened to tysha was also heartbreaking. I hate Rhaegar the most. The silver haired coward left his own little children to be butchered.

@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera I apologise if you thought that was my only reason for despising Tywin. He's got a serious issues with manhood and thinks "his" patriarchy is the same thing as family, which is evident by how he treats his own children, including his golden boy heir that was taken away.

@Kamillo041285 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera yea... He should take all family to battle of trident.

@b4warned115 3 жыл бұрын

I was so mad that he didn’t just finish him off. He could have had his justice, but he decided to put confession over punishment

@alltheworldsastage4785 Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@ajemma78 3 жыл бұрын

Tyrion most certainly did NOT stop drinking after he murdered Tywin

@EricMustardman 3 жыл бұрын

And he didn't stop being clever, either, otherwise he would never have become Daenery's chief advisor. He only ever stopped being clever when D&D botched the film script beyond recognition.

@natedawg6510 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn is by far my favorite character in the show. I can only imagine if he was added to the team cutting down white walkers. Would have been epic

@asapBreeZy 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve also thought that too. Him fighting the Night King would have been SICK

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139 3 жыл бұрын

@@asapBreeZy anyone fighting NK would be sick, ekhm Jon Snow...

@stepanovicboro 3 жыл бұрын

Tyrions „i didnt do it“ speech was easily one of the best performances ive seem on tv

@raunaqgupta33 3 жыл бұрын

I finished A fear for crows literally 5 minutes ago. And man show is so different. The story is so much bigger in books and more interesting.

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

1000%

@raunaqgupta33 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones starting dance with the drangons now. And yes I know it's not the biggest thing but really looking forward to whether Marwyn reaches Dany.

@gabberhenk497 3 жыл бұрын

@@raunaqgupta33 it's so interesting how many storylines are actually in the song of ice and fire and what you can look forward too. When I was reading I was really looking forward to hear from the hound again. Enjoy the books man:)

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

D&D ruined GOT

@raunaqgupta33 3 жыл бұрын

@@gabberhenk497 where I am, hound is dead as per septon and thoros. And even his helmet was with Rorge when podrick killed him. Pretty complelling that hound is dead afterall but doesn't seem like a befitting end to such an important character. I don't believe for a second that he's dead already. If catelym can come back as lady stoneheart, hound can be alive too.

@Free_Palestine_0419 8 ай бұрын

Tywin Lannister's death is what ended Game of Thrones for me. Then, the show began to really deviate from the books and started snowballing downhill very quickly when it came to the writing and even the way certain characters were cut out like Jeyne Poole who only appeared in the very first episode of the show or were killed off like Ser Barristan.

@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 3 жыл бұрын

Best to keep far away from the 8' tall giant, especially when he's dying......

@xyianderson635 3 жыл бұрын

hafthor is 6'9

@raulo7 3 жыл бұрын

One of the more memorable scenes from the show. The fight was extremely well choreographed and made a one on one fight very entertaining. Really enjoy the readings and comments you offer on integral points throughout the book. Still entertaining this long after the show’s downfall (Season 8).

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

My second favorite fight scene. Hardhome is still the best

@moneymayweathera 3 жыл бұрын

And the show started to go downhill since season 5. Season 7 was just as bad as season 8

@ivandanielmaccario8781 3 жыл бұрын

@@moneymayweathera yeah thats right, although the battle of the bastards and light of the seven are really good episodes and in fact one of my favourites but I think that only Those 2 are worth it xd

@billybadtoes 3 жыл бұрын

The viper may have been crazy as hell but he damn sure wasn't scared of the mountain

@glorygloryholeallelujah 2 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh I wish they would’ve included the *”if you die before you say her name, I will hunt you through all seven heIIs”* line in the show...that is one of those *badass 90’s action hero quips!* 😆❤️

@marcellusboyd3863 2 жыл бұрын

The comments here are awesome but your name just slayed me. I’m literally crying tears of laughter! Great job!

@glorygloryholeallelujah 2 жыл бұрын

@@marcellusboyd3863 well thank you very much! 😁 I genuinely enjoy hearing that my goofy handle made someone’s day a little brighter and more fun! 💖

@kenworthNH 3 жыл бұрын

Ellaria's scream...it still haunts me. I still can't watch the end of this fight lol. Too traumatized. On a side note- Tyrion's breakfast sounded really delicious.

@EricMustardman 3 жыл бұрын

Not after he had uneaten it. 😁

@chrisquiett1776 3 жыл бұрын

Pascal is a very talented man, he was the only person who could play the viper

@rockycampbell6027 3 жыл бұрын

When I read this scene I thought of Zombieland rule #2 "Double tap". What great writing. Awesome commentary!

@EpicGamer-sr5so 3 жыл бұрын

You nailed the Oberyn impression! 😂

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I wish I could do spot on impressions. It would make these so much better.

@stephonjames1038 3 жыл бұрын

Spot on!!!!

@SerkeysTV 2 жыл бұрын

I mean he kinda whispered those bits my guy, there's a little certain ways the dorns talk

@joejessup9775 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn should have won. GRRM should have at least indulged us this one character. Imagine if Oberyn had survived and became a POV character in TWoW

@loucypherdamorningstar 3 жыл бұрын

Joe Jessup Especially since he has no intentions on finishing the series.

@SouthernOregonReps 2 жыл бұрын

I love these videos. I will never get around to reading the books, so I find these videos credibly insightful! Thank you so much! I have been a subscriber for the last couple of years and enjoy all of your videos, even though the show is done.

@samjacobs5656 3 жыл бұрын

Yes totally! You often hear things like in the book that was so much better or the show really captured the imagery perfectly, so yea, thanks a ton for these posts and the others💖 they’re great!!🤩

@angelwolf5756 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making such a detail it is amazing to hear such aDeep analysis on the character😃👍🏻

@short11000 3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your explanations. I felt from the very beginning that Obrien would loose the battle, but during that scene he could have overcome the Mountain. He became too self-assured.

@mariahcampisi9152 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video ! Thank you Talking Thrones

@techngames49 3 жыл бұрын

The fight scene is almost same in the books. What I liked is the conversation between tyrion and obreyn before the trial about Marcella.

@sevenstarred77 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!, 😂 That is what I actually commented earlier. The fight overall went down the same way.

@GanjaCoyote 3 жыл бұрын

@@sevenstarred77 Serious lack of Oberyn's shield in the show, so overall a slightly different style of fighting, but yes all the major beats are basically the same. One could argue that Oberyn takes a bit more punishment in the books, with the hits on his shield and being knocked down. Also noticed that the Mountain was specifically quiet at the beginning of the fight in the book but seemed to be bellowing as he attacked in the show. That's only if you want to nitpick though, the dialog, outcome and overall dramatic effect are essentially the same. The good old days when they were getting it basically right, we didn't know how good we had it lol.

@sevenstarred77 3 жыл бұрын

@@GanjaCoyote You are so right! 😄

@meepding3259 3 жыл бұрын

Mycella

@ryanorielly5617 3 жыл бұрын

That scene was so well done, specifically give credit to the camera shots that help show how much of a size different there actually is

@Chilltownify 3 жыл бұрын

Love these, thx for doing them💗💗💗

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching them ❤

@elenim.6535 3 жыл бұрын

I hear Tyrion’s character becomes very dark when he’s in Essos in the books. I would have loved to see this on the show.

@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын

I've loved this series of videos you've been cranking out! I cannot thank you enough. I definitely screamed at this scene on my first watch. And maybe the second time too lol. I appreciate your videos so much!

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tam! This scene caught me so off guard during my first viewing. I couldn't believe he went out like that, after putting on such a great performance in that fight.. Damnit, Oberyn!!

@Lotschi 3 жыл бұрын

While reding the books I started to hate the Mountain and I just wanted him to die I wanted Oberyn to win, and he didn’t!

@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын

@@TalkingThrones That was one of my reminders that in GRRM's world, justice rarely occurs. Sadly, much like our own world. But Oberyn put up the most epic and beautiful fight. I understand his need to hear the Mountain's confession though. Although it killed him, when I first read it, I thought that although his death was hellish, that Oberyn may have found some peace. I'm an emotional reader (I'm an emotional everything lol) and I try to find tiny moments of victory, happiness, justice, and some peace even within the most horrible places. That's my silly, emotional "prayer" for Oberyn.

@TheTam0613 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lotschi It was my desire too. I hated Gregor from the first mention of him. But, even though he killed Oberyn, he lost his own "life" in that battle. I would much rather be dead and at peace than having any weird head experiments done on me until I resembled some rotting zombie in some sort of slavery to Cersei. I'm not sure at all what happened in season 8, so that isn't my head canon. I don't really understand why the Mountain could refuse Qyburne and Cersei at the end?

@Lotschi 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTam0613 I have not watched the show so I can‘t say anything about it but I‘m sure GRRM has his ideas and they will be great!

@omairsheikh3982 2 жыл бұрын

I can never forget that head crushing scene at the end of the fight. The entire scene was so well done

@dinglbarry1275 2 жыл бұрын

The show did such an awesome job on this entire fight scene (of course everything leading up to it as well). The way they made it look when Oberyn gets tripped up, then grabbed by the Mountains right hand, lifted in front, followed by a punch knocking out his teeth, was amazing. It takes the audience from a high to an ultimate low in a second. This was not an easy scene to pull off visually and they did it to perfection.

@pamjames9077 Жыл бұрын

One of the best scenes in the series and the saddest. It makes sense now that Tyrion was a broken man after this happened. I never made the connection until you made it clear. Thank you for all of your hard work.

@mrneutral8423 Жыл бұрын

Great narration/video. Good stuff.

@JeremyIceAndFire33 3 жыл бұрын

This might be an unpopular option but Oberyn is a very rare case for me, I liked him in the books but he's prob the only character who's on screen version I liked even more, Pedro Pascal simply killed it & imo brought something unique to the character that worked perfectly on screen even. This episode is both one of my all-time favorites & worst episodes combined, the episode was near perfect but watching it I remember having this feeling of dread almost cause I knew what was gonna happen to my boy lol & up till that point Oberyn was by far my favorite character on the show & I knew this would be his last episode. If only the rest of Game of Thrones was as great as seasons 1-4 were!

@samfoley6132 2 жыл бұрын

The shows definitely hit and missed on some characters. Tyrion is obviously near perfect casting, but there r obviously shortcomings when it came to ppl like Gregor just bc u don’t rlly find ppl muscular at 8 Ft tall. I envisioned him as somewhat younger than Eddie hall w longer hair. Ned Stark’s casting was also great

@wadewilson8011 Жыл бұрын

🙄

@cookielove8174 3 жыл бұрын

You are so right, that moment broke him 💔 even his hair colour changed. It broke me too, I felt I needed therapy after seeing what happened to Oberyn 🤯😫

@pooroldman5089 3 жыл бұрын

Good emoji choice 😭😭

@GaiusJuliusCaesarMasterOfRome 3 жыл бұрын

Really love these types of videos, please keep making them!

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@OscarEqualsLove 3 жыл бұрын

When I watched the fight on HBO I had already read the book and knew what was coming, but my heart was pounding in my chest all the same. One of the best fight scenes put to film and a tremendous display of acting and athleticism by both men. They both truly encompass the Red Viper of Dorne and The Mountain That Rides beyond my expectations. Great scene. I can remember reading Oberyn’s gruesome death for the first time. I put the book down and just sat silently, dumbfounded. Victory and justice snatched away at the last moment. One of my favorite characters dead in the dirt. And Tyrion, my favorite, is sentenced to death by his own father.

@yusei5ds870 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing scene, even better video 👍❤️

@thebdiddy 3 жыл бұрын

One of the absolute best scenes in the entire series. Even with the differences I think it captured the emotions of the book very well.

@thatrobedude1023 Жыл бұрын

From both the book and show I always get heavy Inigo Montoya vibes from Oberyn. Especially in the books as the mountain is much more talkative and is yelling at him to shut up most of the fight.

@zer0pulse156 3 жыл бұрын

it's a known outcome but still, it had me on edge of my sit, especially at the show, it's a bittersweet scene...

@daniell1483 3 жыл бұрын

I had already read the books, but I was watching the show with a couple of friends and I didn't spoil it for them. I can still remember their excitement and horror with how the fight turned out. I think they were more affected by this fight than the Red Wedding.

@enchanted7076 3 жыл бұрын

lesson not to celebrate too early , oberin is one of my fav characters

@freerealmfighter 3 жыл бұрын

I just read that scene and I thought "wow Tyrion's going to win and be free. he'll have to leave of course. Can't live in a kingdom who would still think he killed his nephew" Then I read the Red Viper's death and thought "Oh, God. How does Tyrion get out of this?"

@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын

If Oberyn won, Tyrion would be send to the Night's Watch!

@nuovosalario 3 жыл бұрын

I was shocked for a few minutes when I saw it. Couldn't watch the scene again, I loved Oberyn and his revenge was just.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

Well, he had his revenge after all. Oberyn's spear was poisoned. It took the Mountain days of unspeakable suffering to die, and then he had been revived only as a walking corpse.

@cosmicwolf9918 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. He was such a cool character

@jarofross1326 8 ай бұрын

I saw that scene after returning from school and it's glued into my mind.

@jimjenkins8511 3 жыл бұрын

Great job

@roentgen571 2 жыл бұрын

Book-wise.... everyone viewed the Mountain as this unstoppable warrior. He was a badass you could just never hope to defeat. But then Oberyn showed up, and the whole equation changed. Dorne wasn't completely invisible to the Seven Kingdoms, of course, but they were a sort of separate country and there was a lot of separation between the two, so champions of one weren't quite as reknown in one country as another.

@bloodangel19 Жыл бұрын

Also, Oberyn spent many years away from Dorne.

@fitdadskrds8903 2 жыл бұрын

Dude. Great video!

@TalkingThrones 2 жыл бұрын

Thank u!

@gesmith98 3 жыл бұрын

I'm still not over this fight. I also really wish they woulda had more of Oberyn in the show leading up to this, he was a great character!

@bigjohnkapert2827 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice 👌. I was surprised when I first read that in the book. So, having read all the SOIAF books, the show fighting didn't surprise me. However, it did without a doubt, impress the hell out of me. Extremely well done. 👏👏👏. For me though, I wasn't taken aback by the Red Wedding. Too much was going on. Where as the Viper fight was so intimate it made it much more exciting. And, I was very disappointed that Aria through Nimeria didn't rescue Cat who then became, Lady Stoneheart. That was when I lost faith in the show. Although, the show as a whole, was still the best televised event ever. 👍☮️ .

@Zazzaro703 Жыл бұрын

I watched this scene with my wife and her twin sister that hadn’t read the books and also a couple friends that hasn’t read the books. Their reactions were priceless.

@krithikayasa8156 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, K!

@NoLuckJustSkill1337 3 жыл бұрын

Was hoping that he didn’t die in the books lmao

@bradcarver8127 3 жыл бұрын

I just started reading a Storm of Swords for the first time. I’m only 200 pages in so far. I’ve got a long way to go but I can’t wait for all the iconic scenes to come.

@TheRoguePrince0 3 жыл бұрын

R.I.P that stable boy

@lordofcastamere9376 3 жыл бұрын

ELIAAAAA This was such a great chapter in the books, a highlight in ASOS. Too bad that the show cut off Tysha and completely whitewashed Tyrion since s5

@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын

I imagine how incredible Tysha's truth scene could've been under Nikolaj and Peter's actings!

@calcifiedinnerbaldur 4 ай бұрын

LOL "You talk too much. You make my head hurt 🙁" sounds hilarious the way you said it given the context of everything that is happening.

@BaMBaM-gi6yx 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly the viper was to skilled for the mountain but was his own worst enemy that was to caught in revenge

@mandaloretheultimate4762 2 жыл бұрын

This is number 2 for me in saddest moments in the show, I nearly cried. The only thing worse imo was when Jaime’s hand got cut off, I literally cried during that scene and every scene afterwards until he got back to Kings Landing. But Oberyn dying pi55ed me off the most, because he beat him and just died from bs.

@civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35 3 жыл бұрын

Big fan of the book vids, also first 🖤

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Much love!

@Lotschi 3 жыл бұрын

The books are so great!!! I know Winds of Winter will come!

@civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lotschi You sure about that ? Lol

@civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35 3 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for the next next book in 'Tales of Dunk and Egg' . I think it's called 'The she-wolves of Winterfell'

@Lotschi 3 жыл бұрын

@@civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35 I hope that I know

@GothicXlightning 3 жыл бұрын

never underestimate the bite of a Viper in my eyes Oberyn did won this fight by taking the damn mountain as they knew him with him and sending him into a well deserve coma if only the viper where aware that his arrogance could destroy him by taking the fight for granted if only he didn't care for that confession that doomed him but that is also how Heroes may face their end sadly Oberyn is one of my fav characters in this story

@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын

Dorne and the Sand Snakes will never forget!

@yellowisksheppard8889 3 жыл бұрын

I threw the book and cursed grrm. But that happened a lot my first read through, I seriously felt like any character I connected with was just killed or maimed. However after reading the books dozens of times I am simply in awe at the amazing talent grrm has.

@kurodo9926 3 жыл бұрын

For my tastes it's too parodieish I would say. But feelings you get from this kind of serieses are golden

@capricornblack3450 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely top 3 moments of the entire series! I just wished they would’ve included the part with the stable boy getting hacked up! 😳😳

@matthaeusprime6343 3 жыл бұрын

I was an extreme late comer to the show. I started watching it 4 or 5 months before the final season aired. I new about the Red Wedding, so I was anticipating seeing it, even though I didn't know the details. This fight and it's outcome were a super shock to me and made a bigger impact on me. The death of Oberyn was horrifying and shocking, very well done, as disturbing as it was.

@lucomics3093 7 ай бұрын

This fight is so iconic. "Some dead man" always makes my shiver in fear for oberyn.

@asapBreeZy 3 жыл бұрын

It would have been SICK to have Oberyn with the gang til the end. Imagine him fighting the Night King. Or being made into one of the WW generals and having an undead Oberyn right John. Sheesh

@lukha225 3 жыл бұрын

Just finished season 4. It was soooooo good; one surprise after another, especially this battle here. My take from this scene in life is if you are going to pull the trigger, do it! No talk.

@dennyel2849 3 жыл бұрын

Have you finished season 8 yet?

@some_metalhead 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy it, season 4 was the last good season.

@souhaibboukadjar3884 3 жыл бұрын

I hit the like button only when i heard buffer say it's tiime... Jk great video !❤️

@Crimsonking2006 3 жыл бұрын

Am I one of few who was disappointed with mountain versus viper fight scene in GOT season 4? It was actually a very short fight scene that lasted only about 3 minutes and was not nearly as intense as the way the book did it. In the book, it was much longer, bloodier, suspenseful, entertaining, grittier, unexpected and more realistic. I don't understand why HBO (who already had a reputation for taking creative risks) couldn't allot just another 15 minutes to be more faithful to the book regarding that iconic scene.

@ralphlaurencehart3171 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@Aharra12 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that you keep content going long after the disappointment of the last season of the show Edit: I was salty when the viper died not gonna lie

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying my best. Some of my ideas are hit or miss, though. Lol. Thanks for continuing to support the videos. I need it right now.

@Aharra12 3 жыл бұрын

Talking Thrones been with you since 1K I’m glad you have grown this much man love the content. 😁

@jeffallen4393 3 жыл бұрын

He never stopped drinking lol but i love these videos thanks for keeping the thrones alive

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

I meant getting hammered. He started sipping wine like a gentleman.

@bobbierobinson6269 2 жыл бұрын

He wanted (needed) the Mountain to tell who ordered his sister, and her family, killed. He knew, but couldn't get justice until he was named. The Mountain was just a weapon used by the Lord Tyron.

@netbanditz2223 3 жыл бұрын

I also think that Oberyn's "I will be your champion", performance in the arena until he gets killed and the Red Priestess' enchanting fire to the weapons of the dothraki before engaging the undead was kinda similar, the show gave us high hopes all to be crushed anyway. But Oberyn's was more powerful since it was presented later on right before the battle ends, the dothraki's was predictable since it started early on the battle.

@Venusv2lll 3 жыл бұрын

This was great, just like I were watching it on tv in present time.

@shilliojr 3 жыл бұрын

No matter how many times I read or hear this chapter I'm on edge lol

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

It's just that good. Lol

@leoknight6749 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I think about this fight, I always get a strangle tingle in my eyes... anyone else relate?

@youngscrappyhungry4570 3 жыл бұрын

My teeth start to ache.

@finding_aether 3 жыл бұрын

The ending was mindblowing

@kdub2627 3 жыл бұрын

I remember screaming NO at the TV. Everytime I watch that scene I ways wish it ended differently.

@danbenzaken2252 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn was my favorite character! I was staring at the blank tv screen half an hour after the episode ended

@KorpsePaintKlown 2 жыл бұрын

I could have sworn Oberyn also had a helmet in the book? Either way fighting The Mountain with no head protection is insane lol

@markster769 3 жыл бұрын

Geart video. Quick question: In your opinion why do think they took out Penny from the show?

@alexijeknavorian4914 3 жыл бұрын

Hey dude, are u still gonna be doing the chapter by chapter vids?? Those are my favourite

@AlisiaBolivar 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video!

@TalkingThrones 3 жыл бұрын

Much love!

@Smoothsmoothie 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn will always be my favorite character

@mariahcampisi9152 3 жыл бұрын

I was shocked when I saw this scene in the show , wow! Just wow !

@yulawdunkem9643 3 жыл бұрын

Oberyn was one of my favorites from the show.. I loved his campaign his reasons why. this scene is the best and worst at the same time. Everytime i see it, it bothers me really bad. It's hard to watch the way he dies.

@brianachim2670 3 жыл бұрын

Oh Game of Thrones. You were so great.😣

@lolusuck386 Жыл бұрын

I still remember hyping every one of my friends up for that fight in the show, knowing full well how it was gonna end. I think that fight hurt them more than the Red Wedding lol.