The Mysterious Case of John Lennon’s Patek 2499

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WatchArtSci

WatchArtSci

18 күн бұрын

For his 40th Birthday John Lennon was given a Patek Philippe 2499 by Yoko Ono. The December after his birthday, John Lennon was murdered, and the fate of the watch was unknown. This video traces its whereabouts! “The Case of the Purloined Patek!"

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@HRM.H
@HRM.H 15 күн бұрын
I think the George Daniels Springcase Tourbillion is worth a video of its own. Such a special piece made by a legendary watchmaker.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
That is a special watch HRM. It would be days of research to do right. Jeeeze, you make it difficult to be watch pundit! Take care, Bill
@donculp9094
@donculp9094 15 күн бұрын
WOW ! What a story. I had no idea about about this 2499. Thanks Bill.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Like you Don, it was a new story (and watch!) to me as well. Take care, Bill
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 15 күн бұрын
Incredible story behind some of these watches, its another reason i love buying preowned! You never know what life they have lived before you
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Funny HRM, you have a point, but once I get a watch, I never think of who might have had it before-a saint or a demon? I just hope they took good care of the watch. Take care, Bill.
@charleslyall4911
@charleslyall4911 15 күн бұрын
Great story Bill thanks 👍❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@Javi_C
@Javi_C 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing the story Dr.!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
My pleasure Javi! Take care, Bill
@user-km1cf1gs8x
@user-km1cf1gs8x 15 күн бұрын
Swiss Courts of Appeal . Working at Glacial speed . She’s not getting any younger , you know . Thanks for keeping this story fresh in Eyes of Watch Collectors . It would marvelous if this returns to Yoko Ono ❤ That would be a Beautiful , Timely Justice ✌️
@clydemills7088
@clydemills7088 15 күн бұрын
Great story Bill. I really enjoyed all the detail. That watch would sell at auction for over 5 million easy.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
The "celebrity" premium can get nuts...especially on top of a watch like the 2499. Take care, Bill
@idletime
@idletime 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the story & G'evening Mr Bill 🤠 .
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Hey IdleTime! If it's evening, it's a bedtime story! Take care, Bill
@xpdchief7698
@xpdchief7698 15 күн бұрын
Great video, and story Bill. You are the modern day Rod Serling, because that story is straight out of the Twilight Zone Betst regards, Brian
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
My work coordinating Lyrique has put me in a horological Twilight Zone, Brian. Did you get your notice your watch is on the way? Take care, Bill
@xpdchief7698
@xpdchief7698 15 күн бұрын
@watchartsci Yes I did, thank you. It's scheduled to arrive sometime on Monday.
@dominickcolasanto6582
@dominickcolasanto6582 15 күн бұрын
Hello Bill Fantastic and intriguing watch story! The Patek 2499 is such a desirable piece in itself, and then you add JL etc. at autction with all the stars aligned my guess 15-20 million watch especially if the proceeds going to a good charity just my guess. Great video cant wait for the conclusion.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Hey Dom, thanks man. I do wonder what will happen with it eventually-she's 91 now (...finally someone older than I am...) and so the final fate of the watch may end up with the inheritor's decision. Take care, Bill
@davidfulginiti5985
@davidfulginiti5985 15 күн бұрын
loved the story----------------what's the value without John Lennon provenance? thanks Bill
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Thank David-the 2499 seems to start around $130k with no celebrity ownership. Out of my range! Take care, Bill
@drbobsnightmare2521
@drbobsnightmare2521 15 күн бұрын
I missed the live Bill, sorry I was taking a nap.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Hey Dr. Bob, my live chats have been known to induce naps...so you may have just been early. Take care, Bill
@StanfordFan-jn1dp
@StanfordFan-jn1dp 14 күн бұрын
The value of the watch is between $20 million - $70 million given by Jay Fielden in his June 24, 2024 New Yorker Magazine story about the watch
@PerryPapanier
@PerryPapanier 15 күн бұрын
Paul Newman's Daytona was so well known even before it came up for auction. So don't see how this would come close to it.
@cesarrocha3138
@cesarrocha3138 15 күн бұрын
Some estimate this can be 5x higher
@PerryPapanier
@PerryPapanier 15 күн бұрын
Guess for now, we will never know. Doing the math $75M. No way
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Perry, the Beatles are far better known than Paul Newman; so you never know how much someone is willing to pay for a watch, especially one so much better than a Daytona. Take care, Bill
@PerryPapanier
@PerryPapanier 15 күн бұрын
@watchartsci my point is no one equates expensive watches to Lennon. So regardless how popular he still might be, it will limit the appeal. But who knows n maybe one day we will find out.
@jonnieinbangkok
@jonnieinbangkok 11 күн бұрын
So does this "Mr. A" still have physical posession of the watch, or has it been deposited with the court?
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 10 күн бұрын
I believe it is in the custody of Mr. A's attorney until the appeal is complete, Jonnie. Take care, Bill
@jonnieinbangkok
@jonnieinbangkok 10 күн бұрын
@@watchartsci Thank you.
@relsanat7872
@relsanat7872 15 күн бұрын
great story, Bill. Been away for a while - nice to see you again
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Welcome back Rel! Take care, Bill
@jerrybonnet7356
@jerrybonnet7356 15 күн бұрын
Saw that story in my New Yorker and thought: I know someone who'll love that story!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Yes, Jerry, that's where I got it from. It's the only subscription that we have (...other than the Sunday NYT). Take care, Bill
@AMAMBT
@AMAMBT 8 күн бұрын
it is complicated, a missing watch since 2005 and was not reported missing ?! could happen for careless people with millions of dollars to spend in nonsense. but for famous people their legacy is kept under good care and must be classified as they represent a fortune . this is definitely done buy lawyers and business managers of whome inherited that legacy , so my opinion is it was not stolen.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 8 күн бұрын
Because they didn't miss it, it's not stolen? The ingrate who tried to jack them up for $2 million isn't exactly deserving for what he took without notice. Take care, Bill
@gynechiatrist
@gynechiatrist 14 күн бұрын
I think easily £500,000 in a wide open auction.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 14 күн бұрын
Gynechiatrist, wouldn't it be more like £5,000,000? Take care, Bill
@booijdesign
@booijdesign 16 күн бұрын
im a big fan of the Beatles, ive seen paul in a secret concert in paris. Great story. Can u do one on Jay-z or John Mayer. I think 2 popular videos
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Hi Bobbe, thanks man! I do mainly watches-this was just an interesting watch story. The drummer in KISS I believe is a big collector too. Take care, Bill
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 15 күн бұрын
John Lennon; the ultimate champagne socialist….he loved working class Liverpool so much that he decamped to Manhattan….🤣🤣….🇬🇧
@lararob4673
@lararob4673 15 күн бұрын
Agree, love their contradictions.
@richardsims3847
@richardsims3847 15 күн бұрын
"Imagine no possesions" when a whole floor of their hotel used for fur coat storage.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
Never paid much attention to the Beatles (or any other musician's) politics-just their watches Mike. Take care, Bill
@ctdavis3277
@ctdavis3277 15 күн бұрын
Rich people don’t bother me, rich people using their money to buy undue influence over public policy to protect their gains at the expense of the common good bothers me. Flaunt your wealth all you want, just don’t buy my representation in government out from under me or we’re gonna have a problem.
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 15 күн бұрын
@@ctdavis3277 Hugely amusing comment. I’m sure you’re terribly angry/annoyed/concerned about something obviously very political…..I wish I could help you….🤣…🇬🇧
@richardsims3847
@richardsims3847 15 күн бұрын
Nice summer "titfa" Bill.Stay cool unlike Mr Lennon who was quite a nasty piece of work.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 15 күн бұрын
My titfa tat is my summer lid, Richard.😎 Glad you like it. Take care, Bill
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