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@The_White2 жыл бұрын
On the note of "people who should be added to the game as champions", according to Irelia, there are more than 200 different species of talking dragons in Ionia, YET THERE ARE 0 IONIAN TALKING DRAGONS IN THE GAME! How????
@danshrk2 жыл бұрын
Because you cant make Dragons Sexy nor Cute for the general Populas.
@The_White2 жыл бұрын
@@danshrk From over 200 species you'd think that there's at least 1 with Humungous hungolomghnonoloughongous and UwU faces. And even if there aren't, I refuse to believe that dragons are disliked anywhere.
@JayStorm1992 жыл бұрын
If i remember right it was suppose to be Ao Shin the sky dragon but then later it turned into Aurelion Sol, which is admitedly better.
@The_White2 жыл бұрын
@@JayStorm199 That means that we can get another non-star dragon.
@saphcal2 жыл бұрын
yeah the game definitely needs more dragons. Aurelion is too cosmic and Shyv is only half dragon.
@atocanboi4092 жыл бұрын
something I feel needs to be mentioned here: the artists at Riot don't necessarily want to make all of these sexy champions, it's a company-wide policy that they have to work with.
@kalfkeith56462 жыл бұрын
Explain just incase someone doesn't watches the videos fully or didn't digest the information correctly huh.
@squishy96592 жыл бұрын
Money.
@kalfkeith56462 жыл бұрын
@@squishy9659 Yes.
@firelordwaffle29872 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Artists, for all of their work, have no sway on what parts of their work someone *else* wants pushed or changed or removed. Every approval phase sees more “marketable” changes.
@jmanjulian2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately riot is macing character designs only for the chinese market nowadays
@JimmyJonJillakers2 жыл бұрын
The thing I dislike about both Bel'veth and Viego is they're both supposed to be terrifying leaders of massive world-sundering armies. So why do they just hit things really fast? Is it because Yorick and Malz were the limit of minion-summoning champ creativity?
@nerdyandweirdybutmighty52562 жыл бұрын
Not giving These two a Minion summoning ability was a big mistake
@frightgeist14042 жыл бұрын
Making complicated minion design and the AI for it is like a wall. I'm sure Riot doesn't want to bother with super interesting minions cause it'll probably need a new system rather than the system that's used on lane minions (yorwick ghouls, Bel'veth spawn, malz voidlings, jungle monsters) or Tibbers (ivern ult and yorwick maiden). As a player in a "Every action matters" game like LoL, having a dumbass AI minion screw something up because of any reason will be hell for player and dev. Unless you're OK with Lane minion and Tibbers AI, though that sounds a little boring.
@OTAVify2 жыл бұрын
They tried to make Bel'Veth to not have the female head but it didn't receive a positive response from the team because players tend to like more humanoid characters so they can identify with them
@WoodSageSeaSalt2 жыл бұрын
It’s worse with Bel’veth because she’s this massive and powerful creature But her entire gameplay feels like a dual sword wielder. She’s massive but her entire gameplay is fast stabbing not barely anything else. It would have fit her much more if she was just a jungle version of Malzahar or a skirmisher version of Elise. It would have been more fitting if she wasn’t a large character. Her fast stab animation looks so stiff and out of place that it became a meme on day 1
@CalmNoises2 жыл бұрын
@@nerdyandweirdybutmighty5256 Belveth does summon minions though...
@elishamark45032 жыл бұрын
Yes yes and yes. Riot please, more darkin, more trolls, and more armored warriors. This man knows what he's talking about Ps they can also be women. That would be cool
@gameslacker27112 жыл бұрын
Riot: I got you fam, *gives a slender sexy female troll with a beautiful face*
@falsonomine41452 жыл бұрын
+qq
@elishamark45032 жыл бұрын
@@gameslacker2711 Lol
@grimmrockbro35972 жыл бұрын
Bruh.
@iwuanadie10582 жыл бұрын
no, they can't be women. we've got enough of those. i'm sick of huge milkers and coochie displays. 7:07 7:20 7:27 those. now that's what we need.
@Nicolas-wl3qm2 жыл бұрын
New champions are great for the game in the gameplay department because they shake the meta. But the design is falling behind SO hard, it's just turning into a mobile game
@rigglethedrake90402 жыл бұрын
So true cuz that why Chinese pple like and riot balls are taken by tencent
@amycoscyrus57402 жыл бұрын
But the "humanity" disables a lot of opurtunities for Gameplay too, cause they arent usable by humans. (Like the Evolution Idea of Kha)
@patrickcarter28292 жыл бұрын
I'm still wondering who the monster champion is supposed to be, given they were promised for this year?
@pokimane43892 жыл бұрын
@@rigglethedrake9040 balls lmao
@kar310002 жыл бұрын
They are not great for gamplay they are all pisss broken 1000 words of tetx passive
@xoafallen62392 жыл бұрын
I agree, theres SO SO much unique design in the world of runeterra and even when you check the concept art they usually even come up with something more unique but end up going with the most basic rendention of them which is insanely fustrating; like you said theres SO much lore with amazing designs and they just spit on the lore they created to make a basic sexy champions playground
@Greatot2 жыл бұрын
Agreed whenever you see the design sketches it's obvious they have talent on the team and the artists have good ideas, and then inexplicably something goes wrong before it's finished. I'm reminded of Viego and his sketch which had him as a floating wraith, holding the hilt of his sword which is still pierced through his chest. How cool would that be? Instead we get a shirtless guy in a leather jacket. Same stupid thing keeps happening
@firelordwaffle29872 жыл бұрын
don't forget the artists don't get to make that choice! what goes out and what gets pushed isn't up to them at all. the sexiness that's being pushed is clearly a big corporate watered down version of the artists potential
@andreasotelo5372 жыл бұрын
Tbf they probably go for the simplest designs for the sake of clarity
@gunlyte46612 жыл бұрын
@@Greatot The only time i’m okay with Viego’s base design was in Ruined King. There they kept his pre ruination outfit but the exposed bare chest was still there and his broken heart was dripping black liquid. Which his splash art and ingame model doesn’t have ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@picahmad40352 жыл бұрын
@@andreasotelo537 meh. I can kinda see that but it's kinda meh.
@syndexadbt41762 жыл бұрын
Necrit: "Last time we got a warrior..." Me: "Darius right?... Wait a sec that can't be right..." Necrit:"Darius in 2012" Me:"💀"
@TheThomas27302 жыл бұрын
Isnt Kled some type of warrior?
@syndexadbt41762 жыл бұрын
@@TheThomas2730 It's about the fantasy, you don't really look at Kled and think of him as a "warrior". Soldier is a more fitting word for Kled imo, especially the grumpy ptsd vibes without even counting all his other twists.
@Sorrowdusk2 жыл бұрын
@@syndexadbt4176 Soldier of Fortune
@jokehacker53492 жыл бұрын
I first think of rell but yea not quite
@magical571 Жыл бұрын
@@jokehacker5349 i think of her more like a knight, but then again, it depends on how people define warrior
@agwatson66002 жыл бұрын
I personally love horror fantasy, horrific abominations/villains really get me excited. Mordekaiser, Aatrox, Pyke, Fiddlesticks, even Jhin are all some of my favorite characters just for the fact that they are the villains. I find myself completely agreeing with Necrit in that I have not cared about a single new champion. I am waiting for the next bad ass horror like villain to be released. Someone genuinely evil, not a pretty boy longing for his lost love. I really hope I see another one of these types of champions in the years to come. Edit: I do have to agree with the fact that Renata is a cold calculating evil so props to riot for her. She is cruel in her own right lol.
@MAX_DJM2 жыл бұрын
ye i never played any of the new champs as they wherent apealing to me at all expect vigo cause his gameplay design is cool
@raulsauceda73922 жыл бұрын
They actually really nailed all of those champs not just design wise but also in gameplay thematic. Super fun.
@legoshirocha2 жыл бұрын
I agree too but honestly this topic is overrated and it’s being talked about many times. We can’t do much to be honestly because at the end Riot is business company. With that said, Renata, Bel’Veth and Vex are villains they are both very well designed in my opinion. People are going to be complaining and complaining about it over and over again. Oh well it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
@benmcnally99352 жыл бұрын
Honestly Renata fit that bill for me say she is hot all you want. She is an unrepentant calculating villain and gives a much more unique aesthetic than most female champs. Looking visibly aged for one thing
@kawaiivenus81772 жыл бұрын
bro come on please don't say that when you know you and Necrit have numerous of waifus and husbandos in anime and other media and won't bad an eye on their loli dragon waifus.
@vansserafim2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated how you give raw criticism to their work without holding back. Authenticity is scarce these days.
@andrejpollak32352 жыл бұрын
Honesty as well
@legoshirocha2 жыл бұрын
But we already know this tho. Here’s just a video of him complaining but yes he’s right but the devs have explained over and over why. Bel’Veth honestly works perfectly but we just have to complain.
@solalmightyy2 жыл бұрын
@@legoshirocha yea bro im tired of hearing abt hot champs for the tenth time like we already know man cmon
@legoshirocha2 жыл бұрын
@@solalmightyyExactly and we know it’s for the money and China. But honestly I have seen an improvement of their champions pattern with these last three champions especially Renata and Bel’Veth. I hope the next tank champion after Udyr is a cool design.
@Crocthunder2 жыл бұрын
@@legoshirocha This would be the case wtithout china, its really annoying seeing china as a scapegoat like America isnt a big money maker either and likes these champs still too
@thesolarhunter2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to proper warriors in armor: The Helmet stays on! This is the way.
@justpassing25332 жыл бұрын
Everytime Pantheon says that he's just a warrior, and that's why he needs a helmet, I cry. Cause apparently, "just a warrior" needs a helmet, but doesn't need any armor
@RB-xc9wg2 жыл бұрын
champions with (more or less funktional helmets): j4 (not functional) kayle (she even used to have funktional armour) kled? (looks like a weird helmet in splashart; in game more like a cap) morde doesnt count; he is a armour, without helmet he wouldnt have a head olaf (lets not talk about chestplates/chainmail) panth (lets not talk about chestplates/chainmail) seju (probably the best arrmoured champion) trynda (lets not talk abour chestplates/chainmail)
@paladinoateista91732 жыл бұрын
Have you played the Dragon Age saga?
@justpassing25332 жыл бұрын
@@RB-xc9wg Leona has one of the best armor sets in the game, eventho she doesn't have a helmet. Also I have to mention Viego 100%. Idk if everyone noticed that, but he actually wears a sick armor set with closed helmet while being in his mist shroud. Why?! WHY CAN'T HE WEAR IT ALL THE TIME?!?! This armor looks dope, literally like Sauron's armor. And it makes him more badass and also connects him with Morde much more. But nah, let's just have a sexy boii instead -.-
@RB-xc9wg2 жыл бұрын
@@justpassing2533 leona wears a form fitting bodysuit with bits of plate thrown on. Thats not armour. I have to agree on Viego, his best look is definetly in his mist.
@celfhelp2 жыл бұрын
as you briefly mention, sexy/pretty/cute just sells best/is the most desired, and this isn't anything exclusive to Riot or America, this is the reality of the entire world, now and throughout human history one thing i think trips people up though, is that the dynamic doesn't just have to be "pretty and ugly", and although i'm a massive fan of beauty in general, i'd love to see more gnarly designs because in reality, if you have such an overwhelming amount of beautiful/sexy characters, eventually "beautiful/sexy" doesn't mean much, since there's nothing to contrast it to
@virginoyster2 жыл бұрын
Hard agree It's like eating ur fav food everyday until u eventually hate the taste of it. I miss those times where lux used to be unique and now every new fem champ is just her in a different clothing
@Nobody-zl3kk2 жыл бұрын
Me with my friends who play Genshin impact whenever a character was revealed and I just hit them with "isn't this just the last one but In purple" and 80% of the time after 3 or so days of the dueling process we would end with the assessment of "well yeah it's derivative, but I like it tho" which is completely fine, but there's something to be said about creativity being stunted by the need to sell as fast as possible in the shortest amount of time. Long term quality trumped by short term gains (unless you constantly pump out new and still attractive designs so the fire still burns)
@claudionosotti88122 жыл бұрын
Also: "Sexy" doesn't always have to be "Pretty". I mean, Illaoi surely wasn't supposed to be a pretty girl with her design, and still no one would say she isn't "sexy" bc of her strong identity and how good her character is designed. You want to give us sexy? Give us ugly sexy, give us champs with scars, champs with "unconventional" body types, champs that feel like they lived in the world they come from.
@DraknorDragor2 жыл бұрын
@@claudionosotti8812 ok lets be real Ilaoi has been referenced as a dommy mommy on several occasions XD
@Mr_Mistah2 жыл бұрын
They'll release more monster champions that nobody will play
@somebrid21472 жыл бұрын
It's so much worse when you put it that way. So Sylas gets to be hella buff surviving on prison food, but I skip a meal once and suddenly my push--ups in a row drop by 5....
@peri26562 жыл бұрын
sylas' design sucks on so much levels.. his basic abilities are such some guy slamming chains. how tf he gained all that combat experience
@supremeoverlordvader55522 жыл бұрын
@@peri2656 If he was in the prison, and you want us to show him as a good brawler warrior and buff guy...then tell us how his life in prison looked like. Uncle Iroh in prison became the literal beast, so it's not impossible :)
@nerdyandweirdybutmighty52562 жыл бұрын
@@peri2656 sylas is one of my favourite champions but he's design is HORRIBLE , him and kaisa have the same issues of having perfect bodies dispite that they spent their childhood beaten up and surviving in a hostile and dengerous environment and without healthy food and dispite ALL OF THIS they came out looking like super models, like sure i don't brush my hair for two days and it becomes a mess but kai'sa fight cosimic horror monsters for survival everyday since she was 10 and her hair is smooth as silk
@peri26562 жыл бұрын
@@supremeoverlordvader5552 he was in a single cell prison most of the time
@supremeoverlordvader55522 жыл бұрын
@@peri2656 like Iroh, tbh it should be retconed, that he all the time trained for the day of his revolution
@Yumaax2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I want more Darkin I think their lore and aesthetic is super cool I want more. I’m also curious as to why Bel’Veths release just kinda fizzled. I thought we’d see some crazy void event but like nothing happened lol
@austeyen56282 жыл бұрын
tbf necrit baited us tons, it could still happen in the fall i guess
@RaulMr952 жыл бұрын
Void event will arrive mid summer, at the same time as Sentinels last year
@picahmad40352 жыл бұрын
The void event was never annonces be disappointed if you want but don't blame riot
@shadicunleashed97682 жыл бұрын
@@RaulMr95 holy copium
@smashrosa81112 жыл бұрын
@@RaulMr95 Copium.
@phinalex13932 жыл бұрын
I hope they add a Draklorn warrior, especially one that has lived for a long time (cannon-wise). I feel like they could both expand and clarify the Freljord region and what the Frostguard have been doing. Also, having them could really help the barren (lore-wise) landscape of the region.
@hollystepp37352 жыл бұрын
Right?? I forgot how sick the drakorn look and it would be incredibly cool to have an iceborn supportive of Lissandra in the game. Her only "ally" is Trundle and even that can be argued otherwise. I'd love to have more lore using her standpoint and perspective.. and the interactions he'd have with everyone would be awesome.
@Crabgar2 жыл бұрын
the main problem i see with "warrior from an army" is that they have to be "special". Sure riot can make them special, but it kinda feels weird to have a "legend" in some army. The exceptions here are garen who was made 13 years ago and darius who acts as the noxian symbol of might, but outside of that, everyone else is more than just "warrior from an army" (this is why i hate quinn, she's incredibly replacable with any other scout with animal companion) I definetely agree that freljord and liss need more representation, the unification of freljord thing has been building up since the game launched and braum was 8 years ago (1 year after liss) maybe something like "the first draklorn" that's been bestowed some of liss's frost powers or a draklorn yeti can work. (i feel like a troll would either undermine trundle or just be mundo, personality wise)
@hollystepp37352 жыл бұрын
@@Crabgar I genuinely don't think every champion has to be "special" as far as power or influence. League of Legends isn't SMITE where everyone's a god. We have heimerdinger whose just a Yardley inventor, Mundo an experiment, Nunu an iceborn boy, Shack a puppet, Gragas a big dude who likes alcohol, Lulu and Blitz and as you mention Quinn. I actually prefer a champion to not be overloaded in lore and for a champion's lore to fill in an aspect of Runeterra. If the draklorn has abilities as simple as Quinn and olaf I'd still be happy because it's a full armoured bloodborn fighter who works directly under Lissandra for who knows how long. He doesn't even need to be "the First" draklorn, just a relatively high up one
@hollystepp37352 жыл бұрын
Basically if Riot could just bring his calamity level low and remember the K.I.S.S. acronym I'm fine. He doesn't need to be inherently unique, a draklorn would still provide us with an excessive amount of information regarding Lissandra's system of command and perhaps several missions Lissandra ordered her army to do which could hint at future champions or events
@statikin51102 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just as an FYI, I'm pretty sure the teaser image with all those unique looking people from the "new nation" is meant to be teasing the upcoming tank and not Nilah. It's mentioned that the tank is from that new area somewhere within Shurima, which is why Nilah doesn't use any of their garments or styles since she isn't from there.
@Sorrowdusk2 жыл бұрын
Misdirection??
@jellopuffy29742 жыл бұрын
Nilah's teaser image had a lot of hands that are not even present in her kit lol
@benmcnally99352 жыл бұрын
@@jellopuffy2974 I think the hands appear in her passive
@fIayff2 жыл бұрын
@@benmcnally9935 I mean yeah, but her teasers were all about the hands. I imagined a coole champ who played with hands like irealia with her blades (which is and was a cool design back then) but her hands have absolutly 0 impact on her abilities
@christineboari1312 жыл бұрын
@@fIayff I mean, the teaser images are mostly not about the champions abilities, and more about their lore or associations. Jhin had one of the best teasers in the game, and it was all just a representation of his state of mind and how he sees his "art".
@penndavi2812 жыл бұрын
Literally in my opinion I think the coolest design of Bel'Veth is when you pick up void coral, transform into the monster and screech- and there's the shockwave effect of her screech. It's so satisfying. They clearly do have a capacity to sell monster champions with the sound design and animations, they just need to trust themselves more.
@kurtieplayz06052 жыл бұрын
Nilah's demon feeds on joy Lux and Zoe: haha I am in danger.
@saphcal2 жыл бұрын
Jinx too. her joy is a bit twisted but I doubt the demon would care.
@kurtieplayz06052 жыл бұрын
@@saphcal crazy happiness take it or leave it
@queenoftraps7162 жыл бұрын
The region image you were showing saying Nilah was from is for the next Tank champion if I remember correctly. That’s why her design doesn’t fit with their clothes and weapons.
@gerhardmonsberger81872 жыл бұрын
I like the fact, that there is someone in riots team, who has the capability as well as the will to make such boring or just dissarpointing designs into unique themes. The problem I see is that, while a good story can make the most generic character charming and unforgettable, its the lore. A part of the game, which maybe 10% of the playerbase really look forward to. For most league players a boring design can be rescued by an interesting in game gimmick, but most of the time those "gimmicks" are overloaded or frustrating, with some uniqueness shining through, but beeing hold down since it is the 116th sexy character with dashes etc. The lore of runeterra is magnificent and a few years ago I read a lot more of it, but sadly it just isn´t in the forefront of a moba game.
@magical571 Жыл бұрын
who is sexy? renata? vex? zeri? rell? if any of does are sexy to you, then basically any woman just existing is sexy in your eyes, you should reconsider your own biases. only semira has some of that, and it goes perfectly with ther character, you can tell she ain't there for you but enjoying herself. If we are talking male champs, akshan, yone and viego? otherwise we've got to go super far back, we are talking 2017 with rakan. Riot really doesn't release that many champions as people say. And there already were plenty of "ugly" champions, league actually had the opposite issue in the past, it had almost no female champs, and all of them ugly af. So it was about time that they gave plenty of options to people.
@Thesmus2 жыл бұрын
legends of runeterra is defo superior in creating new characters that are actually interesting. probably got to do with the fact that most of them are not made to be champions, which in turn made creativity in creating a character less limited. in league, they have to consider that the new champion has big importance to a plot, which means the character should have a presence. also, they have to stand out from the rest of the champions and look as unique as possible. lor don't have as much of a problem with some cards looking similar to another, because the main visual clarity of each cards are not solely reliant on the character design but the card art, like they can even use a same character in a different card but it won't confuse you which ones they used.
@donvitopatata2 жыл бұрын
Its kinda disappointing that my boy pantheon gets the shirtless treatment in his ashen knight skin. God damn I wanted him to have a badass armor like pyke, that might have filled the ironclad warrior shaped hole in my heart for the time being.
@DraknorDragor2 жыл бұрын
since pantheon is based on spartan culture don't they wear less clothes anyway? Its still just a skin i guess
@azrieldalusong50422 жыл бұрын
@@DraknorDragor that's from the movie 300, Spartans actually wear armour.
@donvitopatata2 жыл бұрын
@@DraknorDragor The thing that annoys me so much is the existance of dragonslayer pantheon. They have an armored skin, and not much speaks against my boy getting the skin he deserves. Besides some revenue based plans they have or sth.
@Jackmccartyy2 жыл бұрын
Really good points about the fantasy of Runeterra. A good example would be differences between a champion like Pyke and a champion like Zeri, there is such a noticeable narrative gap between them that I hope Riot returns to the high fantasy it used to have. The thing is THEY HAVE THE ART already done in Legends of Runeterra or on Universe; What I wouldn't give to play as a draklorn inquisitor.
@picahmad40352 жыл бұрын
Cuz people would complain that they have no imagination and recycle ther own ideas. And zeri's design is 100% by her background I mean she has pretty much the same design base of ekko and no one complain s about him
@darthchungus99642 жыл бұрын
@@picahmad4035 that's becus zeri is a pallet swap of a character in another game that has no relation to league lorewise lor on the otherhand is litterally built on league's lore cithria ledros or atakhan are way better designed and make sense to be there than any of the new champions
@picahmad40352 жыл бұрын
@@darthchungus9964 Zeri and neon released together and riot clearly is trying to setup a multivers idea
@benmcnally99352 жыл бұрын
Pyke though is probably one of the worse ones for narrative. At least on initial release since he just stole Nautilus' MO wholesale
@taetaesblessedhands16352 жыл бұрын
@@benmcnally9935 to be fair, a drowned revenant that brings both death and abundance isn't a very original concept after all (see the rusalki in slavic mythology)
@jsc1jake5122 жыл бұрын
I honestly have to agree with new champions losing their excitement over time. The last champion I was actually excited about was Yone because the Spirit Blossom event expanded on Ionian mythology, Yasuo/Yone lore, demons and that he looked fun to play. Before Yone though the last champion I was excited about was Pyke, he had such a good teaser, he brought back the Bilgewater ARAM and he was an actually compelling character by design and lore all without looking attractive. Look at Pyke today, he's got quite a few skins, he's popular and he's been in about half the events since his release. Can you say the same about the other attractive characters that Riot has released? No, very few have attained his level of fame. Sure, you could argue that it's because his gameplay is unique, but I don't think that's the only thing carrying him.
@kadesumitsuriboshi55992 жыл бұрын
i have to disagree: "a proper warrior, armored, and fighting for a purpose": this is literaly the definition of rell, fully armored, controlling, using her armor to create a steel horse she can ride on, and she fights to free children used by noxus and the black rose. Yeah, she's only 1 exception, but she's still there
@iwuanadie1058 Жыл бұрын
she's so garbage, that they said she's already being reworked. also it's just a horseman with a modded horse. also, it's no fantasy, at all. it's dogwater.
@0mnom5192 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would agree that I play the champion because of their lore And I really am disappointed on the Vastayah They're just sexy humans with animal ears And yes we need more darkins
@pokimane43892 жыл бұрын
No one needs darkin cry about it
@asbani072 жыл бұрын
@@pokimane4389 Speak for yourself.
@JustFun-wl3jf2 жыл бұрын
@@pokimane4389 Whats wrong with darkin
@pokimane43892 жыл бұрын
@@JustFun-wl3jf they ruined the darkin fun for me. The best darkin we ever had is rhast who is both funny and dangerous. Other than that both aatrox and varus sucks hard
@pokimane43892 жыл бұрын
@@asbani07 like you are doing
@ArchielDiem2 жыл бұрын
The picture you used for concept art for a new region isn't for Nilah, that's for the Shuriman Tank later this year (we don't actually have art for Nilah's region)
@Raezra2 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of Jaren Rosen for a few years now. It feels like every champion he touches becomes incredible. He is a phenomenal writer.
@rennodumortier45812 жыл бұрын
I think that there are a lot of designers who want to stop making pretty champions but that there are a lot of higher ups at riot who stop them from doing that. I find that legends of runetera supports this theory as there would be more freedom in the designs as there is a huge amount of cards and the higher ups would not really care about the "normal' cards. It's kinda sad really, bel'veth mught just be the closest thing they were allowed to a monster. I know we are getting a monster champion but like the fact that we have known about it for so long makes me think that the designers kniw what we want and are very excited to make this champion, maybe they had to argue a lot with the company to be allowed another monster champion. Of course this is just pure baseless theorising, but i wouldn't be suprised if this was the case
@magical571 Жыл бұрын
you are exactly right. Because at the end of the day neither artists nor designers can do their "best" work unless they are self employed. What sells, and what the higher ups say is best dictates it all. Not speaking just about riot but in general.
@mergo_38132 жыл бұрын
Necrit they actually changed bel so that she has a hole in the middle instead of it being covered It looks more like a mouth now
@WoodSageSeaSalt2 жыл бұрын
But only because ppl made their own edits and showed it multiple times to the riot member. Glad it is implemented but I feel like this change only came about because it was mentioned several times to the designer with picture example to show how easy it would be to adjust her.
@PowerEd82 жыл бұрын
I really like Renata Glasc design and lore, many chem barons fear her, she is like Silco in that regard ( but not dead lol ), she commands respect. Illaoi, Xayah and Renata are my favorite female champion designs.
@visionofsolace89612 жыл бұрын
A General of Lisssandra as a champion would be awesome.
@saphcal2 жыл бұрын
Trundle? Last I remember since his rework, Trundle is basically one of her generals. but yes another would be nice!
@visionofsolace89612 жыл бұрын
@@saphcal Oh yeah, poor Trundle
@darkskyxgames2 жыл бұрын
The problem with Nilah is that her model/character looks so generic. Even Jax that is just a cape has more charisma than her.
@xXMrZentusXx2 жыл бұрын
I still remember the golden age of champion releases between 2014-16. Especially 2016 There was so much hype about every reveal, theories went wild and when the champs released everyone was hyped to see who they are and what they can do. Do you remember the mystery around Jhin? The aweinspiring teaser of Aurelion Sol? The amazing cinematic for Ekko! There was so much effort put into every release, into every design and every champ was unique. Of course this wasn’t possible for every champion forever but now, 2 weeks after Bel Veth becomes playable we get another champ that could walk in our world streets and no one would notice anything special about her. Tbh, i expected a 4 armed fish lady who likes to brawl but gracefully like a waterbender. Wild dreams. I hope at least some of riots passion for champion design, the designs that made me love Runeterra above all other fantasy worlds comes back in some way. Even if its only one *new* champ per year (the reworks were amazing but reworks…)
@evanbain20232 жыл бұрын
The thing that really gets me about the thighs argument is her in game model. like look at the model she is literally given LEGS. Its not the splash art making it look like legs, she actually just has them.
@picahmad40352 жыл бұрын
The model kinda suck ngl
@paztah21942 жыл бұрын
it’s not even “oh they’re actually tentacle like appendages like the story splashart”, it’s a pair of actual dangling legs with thick thighs and full pair of ass on it.
@claudionosotti88122 жыл бұрын
I feel like this was their initial idea, then they changed it into a more monstrous-like creature that only looked like a sexy human (maybe bc of players feedback, idk), but actually forgot / didn't care enough to change her splash art and model accordingly. Even her release skin has abs and a belly button where her mouth should be... it's clear to me that was the intended design and it just wasn't changed when Bel'Veth was updated into her new form
@vovabars12342 жыл бұрын
Those are tentacles tho?
@peacepham78382 жыл бұрын
You got to be blind to see those tentacles as legs...
@ky-passley47692 жыл бұрын
From my experience artists love drawing monsters and don't mind drawing non sexy characters, so I don't think this is the design teams fault I think the heads at riot and the people who look at the stats and numbers see that pretty girls are more popular and sell more so the force the design detraction that way.
@leetri2 жыл бұрын
As an artist who mostly draws monsters, it's more that people can't/won't identify with monstrous characters and thus like them less than something they can identify with. People love monster designs when it's an enemy or a pet, but don't like it when they have to play as one because there's little to get attached to. Another reason why we get a lot of pretty ladies is that women exclusively play pretty ladies. A lot of women do play League, and 97% of them ONLY play female champions according to Riot's polls. If Riot adds a monster or gruff warrior dude that only caters to the male players, while a cute or sexy lady appeals to both male and female players. They're trying to even the gender distribution since over 2/3rds of the champions are male, and in the process give women more options in different roles.
@epiccobra10802 жыл бұрын
I disagree with a lot of the arguments here, but I think I agree with the general sentiment of the video. Renata having an attractive design doesn't remove from her fantasy. The problem isn't really "being attractive/visually appealing" it's that there's too frequent use of "generic" attractive features. Renata doesn't use "generic" attractive features to be visually appealing. Nilah doesn't have a big sword... but she has a whip which actually isn't in the game at all yet? We have big blades already, Nilah doesn't have to add to that fantasy, especially when she's adding to one that doesn't exist whatsoever in the game. Admittedly, her outfit seems a little barebones and could use some more stuff. Aside from being a bit simple though, I think her outfit would still work with the teaser, at least if it had some more color. Vex is a yordle, and while she is supposed to be darker and sadder, a big part of yordles as a whole is how they aren't entirely serious characters. Yes, Vex /could/ be the first exception, but to say that her cuter aesthetic misses her fantasy would be, in my opinion, wrong. She uses both the darker look her lore suggests and the lighter tone that yordles bring to League. She doesn't have to be an exception to be a good design. With someone like Aphelios, I don't feel like the level of attractiveness adds or removes anything from the "fantasy" of the champ. If Aphelios were less attractive, that wouldn't add anything to his character. He's still the silent fighter for the Lunari with the help of his sister. I suppose you could make the case that his gameplay isn't very representative of that... but how would you represent that in gameplay in the first place? Admittedly, we could use another warrior. But only because it's been a while since our last one. I don't think the roster is in dire need of warrior characters or anything, we have a decent amount. Also as a final point, Bel'Veth's model was updated to have an actual mouth when she is in her ult form. I don't personally agree that her ult form looks like an afterthought. Aside from the mouth issue, I personally have always thought that her ult form looked like it fit the model and animations better than her human form. Especially now that it looks more like a mouth in her monster form. I will absolutely agree about Battle Boss Bel'Veth tho, why the heck does she have a belly button where her mouth is...
@mirin5812 жыл бұрын
For the first part: the problem isn't that they're attractive. As u say Renata looks great and unique. The problem Necrit and a lot of us have is that once again the character follows certain thematics: attractiveness or cuteness. But fantasy is much more than that. And you don't even need to go on the monster side to achieve that. Take The Maker from LoR. Yes, she's human. But her design is one of the coolest ever created, where attractiveness is not even considered. Her fantasy is used to the extreme and doesn't disappoint. Nilah, on the other end, waste the idea of the hands. Imagine if she had these water hands that she could use to fight. You don't even need to lose the whip, you can still make it part of the design in some way. But don't limit the whole water bending aspect to just a human weapon, as unique as it may be for the game it would never result as interesting as other concepts could be. This is what i understanded from the video and i personally agree.
@epiccobra10802 жыл бұрын
@@mirin581 Yeah, I kinda get that. A part of my disagreement is that I feel the video leans into ranting and venting (not that there's anything wrong with complaining/voicing your opinion, of course, and rant videos are entirely fine, too, so if that's what this is, that's fine). But I feel like some of the arguments got lost in the complaint and leaned a bit too far into "attractive human = bad design". And so some of the arguments became ones I disagree with. To provide more nuance tho, I do agree it's getting too repetitive at this point. I also think Nilah's design was disappointing. But I don't think it was disappointing because she's an "attractive human" - she can have the water hands with minimal changes to her current body. I think the disappointment is more because we expected water hands but didn't get it. Also, water-bending extra hands takes nothing away from whether or not a champ is considered "attractive", especially if Bel'Veth vaguely looking like she has legs is considered to be leaning too much into "attractive and sexy." Nilah can get water hands and be way less disappointing of a design, without changing much else. Don't get me wrong, I do agree overall that the prevalence of "attractive and sexy" designs have been too high recently, especially in male champions (idk I have a distinct hatred for making champs shirtless/excessively revealing for some reason). I just disagree with how some of it was argued, mostly about Nilah not fitting her region and why she was disappointing, and about Bel'Veth being too human and her model not supporting the monster design. Sorry for the long comment, I'm... very verbose...
@jarda67922 жыл бұрын
No we need another sexy female champion, actually we need 5 of them so they can make KDA 2 and then they can make cinematics where they collab together and release 300 new skins
@ahmedtag39042 жыл бұрын
Write That Down! Write That Down! - Someone at Riot probably
@ahmedtag39042 жыл бұрын
Write That Down! Write That Down! - Someone at Riot probably
@ezraho84492 жыл бұрын
KDA boy band when?
@YourBishMariaTeresa2 жыл бұрын
You're memeing and being dumb about it but, guess what... That's what actually makes them big bucks. People can "complain" and b*tch all they want about it but, if they tend to lean more towards sex appeal it's because *drumroll* it's what works for about 90% of the entire audience, so, sorry to burst your bubble but, you're part of the vocal minority. I'm personally neutral about it, yes, I would like for a new champ to be both interesting in terms of design and have a good lore, but if i end up getting just one of the two I'm fine with it
@rcloud52712 жыл бұрын
300 new skins divided between ahri Lux seraphine kai’sa zyra yasuo and Leona
@Vizible212 жыл бұрын
I like how people who doesn't even play that much League is criticizing the gameplay design while LS out there a literal pro is excited about Nilah. Lmao. And what's with these people surprised that League is a game and a game needs a marketable design? That's why Arcane has better design because the characters doesn't need to be marketable. As much as I love Kindred, Jhin, Fiddlestick, i really don't care about them as they're boring to me. No matter how much they hate Kaisa's design. She's literally one of the most successful champion Riot has ever done as much as Ahri and Lux. Lmao.
@34alexray2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in the 9 last human male champions + Rakan, only 2 weren't shirtless, those being Jhin and Aphelios
@HateshWarkio2 жыл бұрын
You could go even further than Pyke because while Pyke is not necessarily designed to be sexy he still is more attractive than needed to be considering he is an undead revived by some eldritch being He could've easily looked like somebody from the crew of the Black Pearl, the Flying Dutchman or the Silent Mary from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise when those crews were still cursed but instead he is mostly intact black guy just with some funky eyes and massive shoulder pads and probably some additional holes considering his joke emote (which some might find even as a bonus, do not question the internet) Which is also why a lot of people still find him hot
@Maposil2 жыл бұрын
Talking about attractiveness, but "Edge" concepts is far more attractive than things like Yuumi or Vex, so in my opnion the last champ was Ivern in 2016.
@monzirhasabosaliem57582 жыл бұрын
Who is the mistery vgu if we r not having a void event at this point necrit
@bidaboy44882 жыл бұрын
It's Aurelion, is only gameplay
@PennozC2 жыл бұрын
Aurelion sol
@monzirhasabosaliem57582 жыл бұрын
Aw man what about my spon biy
@antongrigoryev63812 жыл бұрын
11:15 She actually wasn't supposed to be a Monster Champion, but more of a "monstrous human". The Monster Champion they talked about before is said to be coming out later, next year likely.
@PedroMiguel-zv3fj2 жыл бұрын
He knows it, he said that a few videos ago
@Siureivax2 жыл бұрын
Sure sure. Riot said and teased many things. We’ll see how ‘monstrous’ this supposedly ‘monster’ champ really is… 🙄
@Mr_Mistah2 жыл бұрын
@@RemixedYoshi There's already 30+ monster champions in the game and NOBODY plays them. YOU don't play them
@Mr_Mistah2 жыл бұрын
@@Siureivax It doesn't matter how monstrous it is, nobody will play it unless it's ridiculously overpowered. League players say they want monster champions, Riot releases monster champions, then nobody plays them. Nobody plays the monster champions we already have in the game
@Siureivax2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Mistah Then make the gameplay more engaging? The two concepts are not mutually exclusive. In a game of win and losses it’s no brainer people will choose more viable champs. And that’s not my issue in the first place. My issue is with Riot stating one thing and then present another thing. Their concept and the backstory accompanying them often clash with the final design which often prefer to relegate themselves back to design that is basically youthful and attractive.
@jesseflora88432 жыл бұрын
If Kindred came out today, people would complain about Lamb being too human and too sexy.
@user-xu6ne7vu7g2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Kindred just animal(lamb) on human anatomy and they concept design is more interesting than "sexy"
@elite8predator8832 жыл бұрын
The tiny chair got me laughing. I'm absolutely loving his humor in his videos especially the thumbnails
@sinister-oni41772 жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat with Necrit. Though I am new to League since January and I was more content with what was there already for champions that I wasn't interested with the new champs outside of Renata and Bel'Veth. That I am more of in the boat of wanting champs to get ASUs and VGUs. I'm more waiting to see Udyr and Skarner's VGUs. lol Also if we're talking about other already existing characters that could make good champ ideas, there is the T-Hex, the one Hextech robot Dino, it's in both Legends of Runeterra and Hextech Mayhem. It would make a cool idea.
@EligorArgentum2 жыл бұрын
In Brazil she was imediatly praised. Not only for inclusion(most of the country is not white), but because Avatar is a very popular series, and her voice actress is the same as Korra from avatar, and a lot of popular female characters. Like Raven of the classic cartoon and the Scarlet Witch from the MCU
@dolofonosesostrefis2 жыл бұрын
We **need** more Darkin. Our last one was Rhaast and that totalled THREE!! The lore is so cool and SO unexplored. Like, right now we have a Godslayer Darkin and two "Darkin fighting for control but not quite fully there". We need more of them. End of story.
@hakonmartinolsen82492 жыл бұрын
I dont know about anyone else, but i would love to see a titan champ, the ones from the titan wars from 9000-10000 years ago. I think the lore is perfectly in place for a titan to awaken from its slumber and wander around. Also i imagine Bel'veth getting close to Targon for some reason and thinking she is unstoppable, only to be farted out of existence by Aurelion
@peace15832 жыл бұрын
I suspect that Riot is actually skipping the "interesting character" focus to save that type of content for their future more rpg and story oriented projects. After all, the vast majority of people playing league and spending money on the game play almost exclusively for the gameplay itself, not for that cool dialog interaction that references lore 99% of players don't know about. I'm sure we all know it's not in Riot's financial interest to put work into anything that wouldn't be consumed by the vast majority of players. So I think whatever interesting characters they've introduced in the lore are much more likely to make appearances in a game or show that is made for rpg players. Its unfortunate because I also get easily immersed in great story and am also getting bored with new champions where the focus is a gameplay gimmick rather than a unique appearance and insight into the lore. Luckily (hopefully), Riot pandering to their most profitable audience is the most likely way we will get that story driven content we desire. Ruined King was actually incredible and so few of the people who play league are aware of that. Its a shame but money moves mountains as they say.
@SapphireMan082 жыл бұрын
The only thing I took from this video is that Necrit wants to smash Vex
@frustratedsquirrel2 жыл бұрын
I like to call this the 'Tate Kubo' school of design. Kubo is a mangaka and the creator of Bleach. He's gone on record for saying that he doesn't initially think too hard about his characters and just likes to draw cool shit. The story tends to come later as a way to justify that cool shit. It's actually quite a fun and organic approach to character design, because you get to have your cake and eat it too. Draw your emo boy with a big mechanical corrupted crab arm, and then make up some story about how he came from a cult of sea-worshipping engineers who would throw superheated iron into the ocean and then fish them up again to have their products 'blessed' by the ocean god, not realizing that they were actually dragging up pieces of an alien life form that would slowly take over both biological and non-biological matter, and that the emo visions are not divine commands, but the parasite slowly starting to take over his mind, etc.
@RodrigoLeaf152 жыл бұрын
A couple of weeks ago I was thinking about something like this, that there's very few "true warrior" designs and the variety that could be added with them. An idea popped into my mind, about another Ionian Samurai, but unlike the two brothers, design this one how a proper samurai would look: Heavy armor, big sword, slower movement, maybe a backup bow. I believe something like that could work, a support Samurai whose main idea would be "I am duty bound to protect my Lord/Lady", and could be explained like a bodyguard for Irelia (who I think is the acting leader of Ionia currently?) now that a new Noxian invasion is brewing. We truly need more of those warriors/fighters, and LoR has A LOT of characters that would work great :D
@magical571 Жыл бұрын
xin, garen, pantheon, renekton, Leona, trundle, volibear, shen, olaf, braum, wu kong, sett, darius, aatrox, thresh, hecarim, fiora, sejuani, lee sin. Your description is like a super cheesy version of shen who already exists btw, or the bodyguard side is just like rell down to the "being super slow" part (unless for you it only counts if it's a man)
@de-ep2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, I don't even played LoL and any of runeterra's game. But the thing that keep me hooked on is their lore, their story, their world. It such an amazing fantasy world, just like you said. Filled with many wonder and varieties of cultures, creatures, Gods, and magics. It was like a culmination of several Gods (the writers) that decided to create a whole huge world, that could competes all of it's contents with our true living world that we live in. Those writers on riot, and their visual arts, designs, and such departments were truly a blessings
@HarryShires2 жыл бұрын
The image from 14:58 was about the champion after Nilah, it's a region from Shurima that we haven't seen yet.
@Arcian2 жыл бұрын
I've always held the belief that character design and character story must exist in symbiosis, by which I mean the character design should influence the story, and the story should influence the character design. That's how you make them feel like an organic part of the universe.
@FenrisRM2 жыл бұрын
when i heared we get another female void champ that back then wasnt confirmed to be monsterlike, i almost snapped. like i could not stomach another kaisa pretty girl in my corrupted, cancerously spreading void realm. but gotta be honest. Nilah looks so boring, its not even funny. for the first time in years im actually straight up dissapointed in a released design.
@blturn2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely want to see another Minotaur. It’s going to look uncanny seeing a new one with amazing facial animations side by side with alistar. It would be on par to Lulu standing next to Vex. (Also, unless the female minotaurs look brutish too, I genuinely don’t care for how female minotaurs are illustrated in Runeterra)
@danboru_bakooo19662 жыл бұрын
Imagine a skinny girl who is half minotaur (mostly human), there!! new "monster champion"
@leetri2 жыл бұрын
There's both skinny and buff Minotaur women in LoR. Thorn of the Rose is a spy and is more lithe, while Ruined Reckoner is built like a brick shithouse because she used to fight in the arena. From the limited Minotaur art that exists, there exists a lot of variety in body shape. Aurok Glinthorn and Retired Reckoner are buff but much smaller than Alistar, The Fallen/Risen Reckoner are on the same level of buff as Alistar, and Lord Broadmane is very stout and pudgy. As you'll notice, all the buff Minotaurs are Reckoners and fought in the arena while the weak Minotaurs aren't fighters.
@Alexis-em3xq2 жыл бұрын
2014-2016, Vel'koz to Camille, all good designs back to back, Azir, Kalista illaoi... and some of the best in the game like Jhin, kindred and tahm. Rito, plus take us back, I know you can cause you did back then.
@k1nguerra2 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate your takes. The only point I want to make is that I'm pretty sure "viego" has been planned for like 6 years in total
@Luksed122 жыл бұрын
His actual appearance wasn't
@Yosuru2 жыл бұрын
15:24 Thank you Necrit, it feels like not enough people are pointing this issue out. It has been bothering me too for a long while, add the fact that they had previously promised ROTATING NOT RECURRING gamemodes (it was called RGM (ROTATING gamemodes). But where has that gone but the repeated/reused gamemodes we have now. Feels like a major drought in innovative content, haven't had the motivation to play for a long while now. The game has never felt so much of a money grab than ever, it used to be actually enjoyable but that can be a subjective topic. They even had previously established a naming system for champion updates namely: Visual Update (VU), Gameplay Update (GU), Visual Gameplay Update (VGU). But it seems that had been forgotten because we now have Art and Sustainability Update (ASU) like how is that any different?
@lukeelbourne52902 жыл бұрын
Also props to Jared Rosen for making it make sense. As long as it makes sense and the lore is good all is well. Bless you Jared
@Sorrowdusk2 жыл бұрын
Jered is the hero we needed.
@vorpalthefox2 жыл бұрын
one thing i will say about the heavy sexy slated mostly female release is i've counted how many of each presumed gender there is of the champions, there's almost double the amount of male champs as female champs even after the most recent release riot has also said that male players are 50/50 playing male and female champions, while female players are playing something like 90% female, so a new female champ is more likely to be picked up by a broad community than a male champ with that out of the way, i don't think every single one has to be attractive, or should be required showing off muscles/body there is so much to the world of runeterra unexplored and it seems like the goal is selling skins of attractive champs
@bokunokebab81362 жыл бұрын
Add shaco as a joy demon make him watery on basic skin and we can call it a day.
@oathbound_a89612 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh... People find Pyke very hot, the trend goes back further... That being said, having attractive characters doesn't mean bad design or a bad story, that just happens to coincide, as you say the fantasy is gone.. They really should just look at some of the cards in Lor and be like 'huh, I can make that work' You showed a picture of Captain Farron, he would be perfect, Captain Ledros, what about a watcher??. GIVE ME BLUMIN CITHRIA AT THIS POINT.
@Lunarcano2 жыл бұрын
I actually made a fan made kit for cithria some time ago lmao.
@Stomaia872 жыл бұрын
I've got some real bad news for you Necrit. When asked why Gwen didn't look more doll like the official response given by Riot, or at least given by a Rioter, was that "She would share too similar a design space as other doll like champs." Those other "doll like champs" are Shaco and Orianna. They had to make Gwen look human because otherwise she would look too similar to an insane male clown and a robot ballerina. They will never make a second troll or minotaur. They clearly lack the ability to make them appear unique from each other. Or at least that's what their answer has been.
@magical571 Жыл бұрын
Which is fair enough. People complaning don't want to understand riot is just filling in each niche they can, if they don't do much "repeats"/"variations" on a same thing, is precisely cause they are aiming to give a wider array of champion options. Nobody is taking away the already existing void, "ugly" and monster characters, and they are just filling on top of that certain archetypes that even if common elshewhere, they weren't executed in league -yet. People forget that league used to have for a long while the opposite problem, too many ugly and masculine characters for the most part, and having to "fight" to make something like star guardian lux. Seriously, people will always complain, it doesn't matter
@Stomaia87 Жыл бұрын
@@magical571 I'd buy that if we weren't going onto like the 100th "Attractive young adult humanoid" with only the tiniest of differences between them.
@woogi8322 жыл бұрын
No i think a rioter said that they want the game to have 50% males 50 percent females, so i get why most of the released champions nowadays are female.
@azurclerx9512 жыл бұрын
Saying that cute character and pretty character are appealing but monsters and “terrifying” (Pyke, Fiddle, etc…) aren’t is kinda wrong in a sense. Since a lot of people want monster and love Pyke design, doesn’t that makes it an appealing design but for another part of the community ? We always focus on appealing towards people being thirsty over cuteness or prettiness but in that sense that makes monstrous champions also an appealing design. The next monster champion that will be released will probably sell like crazy (especially in NA and EUW were people are always complaining of cuteness) so doesn’t it makes it a champion made to appeal toward the players in a certain way ? I think we are always focusing towards the pretty ones because, for some people, they are not fitting to the world of Runeterra and even if I agree that recently there has been too much pretty champions, at first there were none, only dark and bloodthirsty champions. It feels like they are trying to fill the lack of attractiveness and cuteness to attract a new part of the gaming population but in the end, releasing whatever type of champion that fit into a certain kind of concept like cute, pretty, monster, badass, etc… makes them an appealing design, it’s just that it’s not conventional to call a hideous creature an appealing design. (Btw, I do understand what everyone thinks when we talk about “appealing design”. I am just explaining why a monster champion is as much of an appealing design as anything, because it serves to attract a certain category of the population towards the game. It’s just that before Seraphine, Lillia, Neeko, etc… were released, people that wanted cuteness had to go for explosive Yordles, warriors or monster. (And yes beauty sell because humans are thirsty but I can assure you that if a creepy doll Gwen skin comes out, a LOT of people are gonna buy it, even if it’s not “appealing” as we may intend it to be))
@michaeltaylor7882 жыл бұрын
Your right.
@Reia.P2 жыл бұрын
Imo it all went down since 2017, We got Kayn, Xayah, Rakan, then Zoe was teased during Worlds, and next year we got Kai'Sa Yea Ornn was there too, but despite how much he's played in pro, poor guy still only got 2skins…
@dzibanart85212 жыл бұрын
I know we had many female champs lately but, can we have Sevika? she could play as a tanky version of old Kayle.
@CryoConnoisseur2 жыл бұрын
11:28 We were told that our actual monster champion is gonna be released next year (2023) so its a proper design and not rushed... Bel'Veth in that case is supposed to be a "monstrous" champion and not a monster specifically. If u believe that or not is your decision
@WoodSageSeaSalt2 жыл бұрын
I would say she is "rushed" in that she felt incomplete when Riot released her. First gameplay that was revealed looked like her AA animation wasn't polished Another gameplay showed her transforming her entire wave of minions into fishes at once, something which is not in final game Her own trailer looked like she bugged and she didn't transformed into her Ult from despite ulting multiple times. Then AA animation being adjusted, E animation being adjusted, new face being added. Further animation adjustment so she doesn't turn in as much etc
@zerefkun96582 жыл бұрын
I feel that, even if we keep shouting about how we don't want any more humanoid sexy champions, riot is already too deeply lost on the champion creation department . Bel'Veth was supposed to be what gave us hope, but that face and those thights only managed to shatter mine completly. There won't be any more urgots, trundles, cho'gaths,kha'zix, rengars... etc.
@emilianomonteleone79622 жыл бұрын
I think the image you are referring to as the homeland or region of nilah is actually the image teaser for the upcoming shuriman tank toplaner we'll get later this year but I may be wrong.
@magical571 Жыл бұрын
You and many were 100% right, but necrit will find a way to complain regardless.
@Noanatsuka2 жыл бұрын
Sex sells and especially with them considering the overseas market, who typically prefer their characters to be "hot and/or cute" over anything resembling monstrous or getting within the "furry" territory. Which is why champs like Neeko are more humanish and why even Bel'veth "had" to have a sexy form, because Sex/Moe sells, especially overseas. Riot didn't forget. Sadly, they're just appealing to the market for more $$$. :(
@gablam-79472 жыл бұрын
Dota 2 designs are so much better
@david_89242 жыл бұрын
While we did not have a true heavy-armored soldier in a while, we did have some armored warriors - though unconventional: Rell being the most recent, she is a rogue teenage rebel with a more modern, sleek, and cubist approach to the forms of her armor. Ornn's blacksmith attire and demigod body, seemingly made of stone, teeters on the edge of armor. Kalista doesn't fight like a traditional melee warrior and her armor is pretty light on her slender body, but her outfit is clearly inspired by Roman soldiers. Diana also is a fully armored warrior, though her armor is more sleek than the archetypal bulky plates of somelone like Darius.
@abbywoodhead27642 жыл бұрын
I wish riot went deep in lore in stead of wide. New champ new region breaking models. Bel veth isn’t like other void born, renata isn’t like other chembarons, nihal isn’t like other demons. Stop making new stuff when you have gone deep about the old stuff
@warlis47672 жыл бұрын
Bel'Veth's design feels like it has so many flaws. Like for one, her splash art, she literally looks like she has thighs. Like, is it just me or whoever made the art drew her with one hand while using the other for fantasizing of a mommy dom? Because that's not how monsters work, chief. I mean, even Kai'sa is a fail design. She enters the Void, then exits like a Victoria's Secret model. The Void is corruption, not a place where you can get make-overs.
@vansserafim2 жыл бұрын
As much as I agree. This is important for the core fans of the lore and world. Riot is taking it safe to appeal to a larger audience, I presume. Besides, they have teams of researches working full time job to study players and how to best appeal to them
@residentfacehead34652 жыл бұрын
Belveth wasnt ever intended to be the full "Monster Champion."
@tentacle_love2 жыл бұрын
She had to seduce the void to survive!
@warlis47672 жыл бұрын
@@vansserafim I mean, you're not wrong, but the fact that that's what they're doing, it probably shows how insane the amount is of sexually depraved losers there are. A monster is not supposed to be appealing. Hell, the void is not supposed to appealing either. They may be researching what players want, but they ain't researching quality.
@Fakensyit952 жыл бұрын
@@residentfacehead3465much as I like the manta ray design, i'd rather they go back to the sexy tentacle void lady designs she had in the concept art despite of backlash. Those designs would fit way more with her kit rather than the current manta ray design.
@user-ve2zx7zc4i2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine a berserk based armour tank warrior character just imagine the armour it's also can fit in lore dark character are more attractive than these actual beautified characters
@samuelallard1412 жыл бұрын
I wanna see that noxian on the council who no one knows who he is with his double maces
@lore_wa2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone has said it! 9:14 Thank you Necrit, a lot. I've been feeling and saying just the same for years now. Hope this gets heard since you have quite a footprint on this community.
@SingingInferno2 жыл бұрын
Having one of Darius' sons as a champion could be fun. Also, I'd love to meet the darkin that taught Vladimir hemomancy.
@bellsama65882 жыл бұрын
Ok Ok ok.... I dont mind the human champs but we do need other types of champs and its true Riot is taking forever to keep the lore alive in game apart from cinematics, like we need more champs that have really good interactions that makes players interested into the lore even if they dont want to..... LoR did so well with showing more character designs and ugh idk.
@Mr_Mistah2 жыл бұрын
It's a MOBA game. How much should lore matter?
@zeros2412 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't kled be considered the last armored warrior type champion we got? I mean he's essentially riding the yordle version of a war horse. He's wearing riders armor. And I'm certain he's not going for sex appeal
@illuminight11992 жыл бұрын
I personally don't mind if champions are attractive, attractiveness sells. As long as they have good lore like Renata, Bel'Veth, Rell or Nilah, they can be as marketable as they want.
@vhan752 жыл бұрын
Bel'Veth out here claiming she's unstoppable. Meanwhile Asol out here with the acid reflux closing void rifts on accident.
@lovekai70412 жыл бұрын
Zeri, renata, nilah, Rell, vex and belveth are sexy Champions? Wtf are you smoking? At this point I think this is some kind of personal (thigh fetish) problem. where does this obsession with „sexy champions“ come from? this topic has been going on for way too long now and im tired of hearing about it when the previous champions weren’t even sexy. (Again: Zeri, renata, nilah, Rell, vex and belveth, what? So is Tristana a sexy Champ aswell then?) if you really think vex is sexy you should probably see a therapist.
@lefthandedglasses52412 жыл бұрын
"The man who gives nipples a reason." -Necrit 2022
@gillesnotard692 жыл бұрын
We can argue that Pyke was an error in Riot's cycle because just before there was Kai'sa, you know the girl who got corrupted by the Void to the point that she looks sexy as hell
@just_dont_do_it28832 жыл бұрын
im glad you made this video, i have the same feeling but with skins, when my main hasnt even gotten a skin in forever while lux,senna,leona,ezreal,sera are getting extra legendary/prestige skins when they already have a bunch, and most champs in the game dont even have 1 legendary or prestige it just makes me mad, especially since my main (vi) has like 2 decent skins and the rest are garbo
@egghunter21222 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, i hope riot will listen and one day maybe we will get a interessting champ design thats not human or appealing in some way
@patrickcarter28292 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, I'd even be fine with more Kindred-like champions: humanoid, but not human.
@egghunter21222 жыл бұрын
@@patrickcarter2829 thats cool too, you are right
@ArkLazarusMaximus2 жыл бұрын
Jared has done amazing work with his champion releases and the worldbuilding he's brought to Runeterra. However, I disagree with your statement that he is "saving bad designs" the lore and the designs go hand in hand, Bel'Veth's lore is better because of her character design and vice versa.
@lemur86392 жыл бұрын
Jared Rosen creates lore that compliments the champions designs, so he IS saving those champions. If these champions had different designs, they'd also have different lore to compliment it. Its because he makes good lore for bad designs that everything works out like that and compliments each other.
@ErzDetox2 жыл бұрын
That's not what he meant I think. He mainly means that he saves the "sexy design" choices of the team by giving lore reason to them. Bel veth Design was overall good but the sexy side and face were trash. But the lore saved those aspects by giving them purpose (bel veth mutating because she absorbed humans) Without Jared there wouldn't be any purpose to make her sexy (except money ofc)
@ArkLazarusMaximus2 жыл бұрын
@@lemur8639 You contradict yourself, because you point out that if these were different designs they'd have different lore, which shows how these designs and the lore go hand in hand as I said in my initial comment. So it is biased to say they are bad designs, because we could take some of the "better designs" and give them Jared's lore, but they wouldn't work, because the design doesn't compliment the lore, for example if Rek'Sai had Bel'Veth's lore and character.
@ArkLazarusMaximus2 жыл бұрын
@@ErzDetox This is working under the assumption that Bel'Veth's design was 'completed' first and then she was given lore. Sometimes champion design works like this, but more often than not, the narrative, design and gameplay influence each other continuously throughout the process. It is equally as valid to say Bel'Veth is sexy because of her lore as your claim that she was given lore that makes sense for a sexy design. Hence my statement that the design and lore goes hand in hand.
@ErzDetox2 жыл бұрын
@@ArkLazarusMaximus what you are describing is the perfect scenario how it should be with development. But in my opinion Bel Veth's Face is nevertheless trash as well as her thighs even with lore. But the lore at least removes the "senseless" aspect which makes it better not still not good. So the writing saved the champion (mainly the optical part with face etc.) For me cause otherwise I would find it trash. Now it's okay. And because Jared is the one accounted for the story he obviously gets the credit for it. (I mean it's not coincidence he got promoted) + Riot is intentionally making all champs sexy for sales which concludes to why the possibility that the lore needs to fix those gaps created by design is more likely to be the truth.
@SoIfire2 жыл бұрын
I have this argument with a friend that came from overwatch all the time cause he says all the league champs are basically anime characters. I get that everyone has their opinions but if u give me the choice of playing a champ that's ugly for the sake of being ugly and a champ that looks good i'll choose the one that looks good. I'm the type of player that doesn't like playing champs like tahm kench not because of their kit but because of the way they look. And that's valid too. We spend sometimes hundreds of hours playing champs we like and i don't want to be looking at something gross the whole time
@SoIfire2 жыл бұрын
Sub-point i don't think bel'veth's face is pretty at all and think she's an all-around disgusting champion so i don't know why you focus on her face so much lol
@hystericalsavant37982 жыл бұрын
I want the Darkin Behemoth and a ChoGath rework to have a Canon head to head fight. Like, a literal, old school rivalry like Khazix and Rengar
@ChXris2 жыл бұрын
There's a crucial fact that people tend to forget: you can combine every western region where lol makes profit, and it wouldn't even scratch the amount of money China brings. Sadly, that's the state of mainstream games. If it sells in China, it gets done. So, as much as I love Riot's art and lore, I'm fully aware they are a company looking for a profit, and profit is not here. We stopped being the target audience long ago. LoL is already gone, so I just try to enjoy what's still not part of the big profit machine, like LoR or their animated series. They're like the last bastions of quality content.
@michaeltaylor7882 жыл бұрын
1)Most of the fans base in the world like the sexy champions not just china 2)even indie game characters are sexy as heck it’s a human thing not a china thing.
@ChXris2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltaylor788 I was thinking more about the whole monster vs human design. Of course sexy sells, but cool monster characters also are popular in the west, and that's what they're lacking, since they're quite unpopular in the east. I'd even go as far as predicting that belveth will not be popular at all for this very reason, not human enough.
@michaeltaylor7882 жыл бұрын
@@ChXris with the way they talk about her all over the internet she’ll be fine.
@samuelallard1412 жыл бұрын
@@michaeltaylor788 yes but western actually plays monster champs, china only plays waifus (fiora riven irelia and such) check out the research about favorite vhamps by region
@michaeltaylor7882 жыл бұрын
@@samuelallard141 yea but the people who complain about the waifus are a small minority and most people in the real world probably don’t mind them. But that small minority is very loud and complains a lot and insults people who like the sexy champions which gets on the most people who play the games nerves so unfortunately they get labeled as toxic and get refuted and told that the most people like sexy as a whole
@deadead452 жыл бұрын
Good video i agree on every points and i hope Riot will one day remember the diversity of the universe they created when making new champions.
@kekw12572 жыл бұрын
The Nilah teaser that youre showing is actually the teaser for the qoute "High skill toplaner tank from Nazumah" which is on Shurima so yeah Nilah is from another region entirely so she wouldnt really have the cloak nor the blades
@locomotiveclown27052 жыл бұрын
I want a mage seeker champ
@samuelallard1412 жыл бұрын
Rito will tell you we already have galio lmfao
@elitechicken1182 жыл бұрын
I feel like fantasy champions or those with more lore would require expanding the lore, that's probably why champions like zeri are released and not darkins for example. Humans might just be easier to mend into the world of runterra. But then again, viego and bel veth expanded the lore but were given human like features.
@ivaivaivaivan72 жыл бұрын
Yall who want summerization. Necrit: I give up on the new characters. What made you do something like that. 99.9% of Riot: *MONEY* 0.01% of Riot: *Classical Music over the most godsensual fucked up lore that redeems the characters* Necrit: ...But the lore is good.
@Mike_22562 жыл бұрын
"Sexy champions sells better" is not entirely the right assumption because there is a clear example in Japan with Godzilla, that franchise sells so well and i don't see boobas on godzilla&co, the trick is to make something unique enough that people are draw to it but usually companies (the high in command) are too lazy, want fast money and don't give a damn about the artistic side and so sexy champions it is.
@sahimi.a82402 жыл бұрын
Love too see your face Necrit when Riot will release the monster champion soon and it will be Female monster XD