Whoever wins we lose

That’s sounds awesome. You could have an under strength IG force in the middle. For the real AvP experience.

@@derekeaton-loken4528that reminds me of the narrative game me and my buddies just played. We called the mission convoy ambush. Basically my combined regiment got slammed in the middle between an orc army and eldar battle.

DO IT! With Catachan Guard no less!!!!!

Which army do you think Nick would play the Kroot or the Guard stuck in the middle

The greater good

The Greater Good

That's all I will hear now too 😂 The greater good

The Greater Good

No luck with that goose then?

Nick is on record stating that he actually, sincerely believes the Tau are the “good guys.”

As long as he cosplays as each one. Blue nick and bald nick must be things.

i would watch this.

@@lostwolfx tbh mechanicus Taq or Necron Michael would be the craziest cosplay

@@zachhughes9149 they are such ‘great guys’ that farsight had to leave to do evil shenanigans

So many cool things you could do. I’m thinking running the now legended XV9s would be perfect for it!

@@PlayOnTabletopAs i do some saturday house cleaning, i keep thinking of the banners and i think that might be the best idea for showing unit types, since historically a war banner was used to show who was in what unit.

@@PlayOnTabletopI was going to do that as well funny you mention it. But I am very very sad we didn’t get new riptide rules for the forge world riptides. Given how popular they are I’m surprised

@@PlayOnTabletopSorry to bother you again but where did you get the war banners from?

Don't let the rule control the way of your hobby. GW can change the rule as they want, but they can't change the miniatures you have built and painted

Space Communism man. Space Communism

Gunna cry?

Aww, they tossed the onager gauntlet? Now everyone knows how I feel about my Deathwing Knights

Can't even have proper crisis suits now... 10th ed is the death of customisation.

The Kroot have almost as many units as Votann does in their entire roster lmao

And technically you still get that flexibility. Just in 7 combos rather than a bewildering 63.

Laziness

Nah. I hate it deeply. From my perspective they took our leman Russ and cut 2/3 of its main guns and made sponsons built into the sheet. Why do the humans get the effort and the xenos get this?

Not really fond of it, myself. I think the solution to the CIB spam was to just limit them to one per suit. Easy fix to the spam without having to go to the extreme of splitting crisis suits into three separate datasheets that only have specific 2 weapons.

The way to fix it was to take away the CIB from regular crisis suits. That's all that needed to happen, one simple change that both solves the problem of "the kit doesn't have that bit in it anyway" and people not being able to give up that crutch and branch out with other options. They went way too far and they're objectively worthless now, especially if the rumored points costs are accurate, they're way too expensive for the pathetic amount of firepower they'll be putting out with only two guns. And it makes no sense not being able to take support systems like shield generators anymore when there's enough in the kit to give one to every suit. When we're at the point where we're removing option IN THE KIT and going against the "Swiss army knife" design of the unit that's been present since day one like 20 years ago... The designers clearly just didn't care, they didn't "get" the army because they personally don't play it and don't have any real passion for it, so they phoned it in as quickly as possible so they could focus their effort on the next Marine supplement, no doubt. Put it out there, who cares, the nerds will buy whatever we make.

I just noticed that myself! Amazing.

if you're feeling especially mortal you might even use the grenade stratagem for even more mortal wounds.

Yes. It's called rebalance

@@theophrastusbombastus1359 support systems weren't the balance issue neither was the Plasma rifle being at 24". Now our only weapon over 18" range is missile pods.

​@@zachnoland155Tau getting outranged just feels bad

@@theophrastusbombastus1359 For Fireblade's to be as effective as they were, they would need to be 130pts for the 3 man unit, and they still lose the wargear, the turbo-jets rule, and cant have double drones. How likely do you think we are going to get 130pt Fireblade teams?

no one was using cib’s cause they did not come in the box😂

Yeah that would have been nice.

Farsight Enclaves for me should be the only tau faction that is heavily melee. Dare i say they should have a stand alone codex just like world eaters for example

You can get the Onager Gauntlet in the Crusade rules as a relic!

@@PurgingParrot Really hoping so. That’d be nice. If you have a picture can you send me that way?

@@theinnernerd719 Funnily enough they did have something like that in 7th

The difference is that this unit is attached. There’s an argument here for it. But I’d love to have clarification from gw.

@@PlayOnTabletop Yeah, there are potential arguments for it each way. While I'm hoping Nick's interpretation is true, I suspect that it won't be.

@@PlayOnTabletop You aren't attached to a destroyed unit. This video is going to mislead a lot of people.

@@PlayOnTabletop in the moment of destruction the Shepard will become a own unit, so the strat will not work here

I think it should work for the shaper, and any other similar leader/stratagem combos, but only if the leader is destroyed in the same set of attacks as the unit. Otherwise I agree that the unit is no longer attached being dead and all

Perhaps that’s exactly what will happen. I’d love to see it!

Ya I love the shirt too and really want to know where to get one for myself.

If they survive long enough to fulfill their roll. And some might want use burstcannon and flamers together with a shieldgen for example.

It's a valid point; the CIB was the best option by far and was being used like a crutch. But 1) that's GWs fault for failing to balance the options properly, and 2) easily fixed by just removing the CIB as an option, which is the most sensible thing to do since the kit doesn't have the bit in it anyway and it's the entire point of 10th editions obsession with simplifying/dumbing the game down. They've been doing it for other armies and taking away options the kit can't build, so it was expected here. You will have players using other builds because without the CIB dominating the wargear list and standing out as the most obvious best choice, and people who still want to field crisis suits because they're cool, naturally trying the other options since they don't feel like they HAVE to take the CIB. And before the CIB there had been multiple configurations in the past that worked for different things (there were also a lot more than just those three classic "named" builds, if I'm not mistaken). But now you can't experiment at all, you can't have fun trying different things because you're locked into one of three specific builds that are needlessly rigid, and if you started just last edition or with the index at the start of 10th, you're being punished whether you spammed CIBs or not, and forced to rip your suits apart or buy new ones to replace them with "legal" configurations. And "Legends" isn't a solution, most people (and local events and GWs own tournaments) will refuse to "let" you use them by default, and it might as well be considered 40k's version of a ban list. It's too heavy-handed and reeks of a design team that clearly didn't have a dog in the fight and just shrugged it off because they didn't care. No one actually plays Tau up there in the ivory tower, so they're just guessing at what they think we want or what's "balanced" or not, and I see massive points drops coming in the future, unless they're suddenly okay with having an army sitting well below their "sweet spot" they love so much. I'm not expecting everyone in the studio to play every army or to be passionate about literally all of them, but their job hinges on them at least knowing about these armies they personally aren't into and how they're "supposed" to play, and as a fan you can really feel it when they aren't...well, feeling it. And it's worrying because that was allegedly the reason Squats took a 30 year hiatus from 40k, because no one in the team was feeling it anymore, and they didn't know what to do with the army or what direction to take them in, and even now, it's pretty obvious that if it weren't for Deep Rock Galactic of all things, there wouldn't be any Leagues today, since that seems to be the main inspiration behind bringing them back. Someone ELSE had to do space dwarves and make it a hit, before they came in with "W-wait, we did it FIRST!"

Considering they removed the free Age of Sigmae datasheets from the webstore when they moved to 3rd edition; it seems more unlikely to happen in the current climate than not. That being said, if they sold them as PDFs with a vastly cut down price and a print on demand version - with the box sets carrying the special edition physical release as always - then that is at least a step in the right direction.

I mean you don't really need a codex to play, there's plenty of army list building apps that work. The books are mostly meant for Advanced collectors by this point.

Exactly. Well said. But don’t be scared to go with a clipper and clip em off and replace with new. I’ve done it countless times :)

Or just simple dont run a single one. For me they dont excist in this edition. I'll stick to Stealth, Ghostkeel, Riptide and Broadsides. That 9 "full" squads are 3 each, maybe not as much as you though. And 1/3 of them are pretty useless with plasma nerfed to 18" and special rule only to unharmed squads. And I dont think they get that cheap that 6 shots from the pods could be worth it for damageoutput.

I always wanted to try that one, but didn’t get to try before they took it away

FOR THE GREATER KROOT

Me too. Perhaps In the future.

According to the designers commentary a model is considered to not be leading a unit after the attack sequence is done. And the trigger for the stratagem is as soon as the unit dies. So yes, you can’t bring back the leader, but I think it’s still works, as you play the strum before the leader dies.

@@PlayOnTabletop I really hope you are correct, a GSC player friend told me they have a similar rule but it doesnt work, I'll do some more digging

No one in the studio gives a crap about Tau, we're lucky they could even be bothered to think of 4. Next time we might be lucky just to get a codex at all.

@@ninneplug With what they did to age of sigmar... Maybe they decide the next edition to get rid of that little place in space where the tau sitting like "Oh that's a precious 'lil empire you got there, wouldnt it be sad when they got... let's say... consumed by the 'nids? Or what about a new crusade, to finish the job this time."

And our plasma also got cut to 18" on top.

The return of the king

The data sheets for the new one are. Not the old one.

Alright! Thanks for the answer and keep up the awesome tau content ♥@@PlayOnTabletop

Yep. That’s how I’m reading it.

What do you think is good? They lost the ability to use the best weapon on their suits, can't customize their load outs, locked to minimum size units when their best Strats cost 2 co so you would want to use them on a big unit. Lost characters, lost prototype systems, only 4 detachments compared to more for every other faction that has a codex. Stealth suits for an upgrade and firewarriors are arguably better with their new special ability. New Kroot are fun but they don't let them interact with our main army rule.

@@WaywardpaladinYou main army rule doesn't it say "T'au empire' units, I believe kroot have that. I think? I'd have to ask my brother he's the tau player. But this is coming from a space marine perspective. Your army was already ok (In 10 edition standards anyway) before the codex and it's looking like it's more of the same. meanwhile space marines have about half their detachments(one good thing about having less detachments is they can focus a little more, Space marines got to worry about 6 plus balance it out for future sub faction detachments which kind explains why Dark angels sucks so badly) being good but internal balancing is the real issue. There was even a decent and not overpowered strategy(Atleast as I saw it) using Uriel ventris, Marneus calgar and Devestator centurians and the ravenguard detachment. Then GW is quick to nerf that into the ground by increasing prices all gravis and the centurions. I'mnot saying it's perfect and as someone who's only been in the game for 10 I see what they are doing. My brother straight up predicted that Crisis suits would be turned into more specialized units(The unit cap of three kinda sucks though) Losing the best weapon is both good and bad. Cause it was just too predictable for people to just spam the cyclic blaster. But it was a very good weapon. They are trying to obviously remove it for more variety and to encouragemore aggressive styles of play cause I believe the blaster was the longest range weapon? Don't get me wrong, it's got bad. But from what I see Tau is eating better than space marines in my honest opinion.

@@Admiralkirk95 Kroot don't have the For the Greater Good keyword like all the Tau do.

@@Waywardpaladin Unless the codex is changing it the description for Greater good is "T'au empire' unit. And on the datasheets Kroot do have that as their faction keyword.

@@Admiralkirk95 The rule itself is called For the Greater Good. Just like Space Marines have Oath of the Moment on theirs. You need to have that rule to even get to the Tau Empire targeting step.

Even if you could run them like this now... Plasma got no range at all, it's on 18" now, making it kinda useless cuz the fubla + the shield only they got seems overall better.