The OG of Pump Actions - Winchester 1897

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2 жыл бұрын

The Winchester 1897 was not only one of the most iconic pump actions ever built, it was also the first ever successful combat shotgun.
I have hankered after a later mode for years, (mostly to go and slam fire at clays) but looking over this early Damascus edition at Holts Auction was still a treat.
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@92fordpower 2 жыл бұрын

Fell in love with the 97 when my father gave me one as a Christmas gift he picked up at a pawn shop for $225 years ago. Recently added a holy grail piece to my collection in the form of a Cody Museum lettered 97 “Trap Gun” also called a Black Diamond. One day I’ll have a Trench Gun to sit alongside it!

@nachos_70firebird66 3 ай бұрын

2023 price I paid for my 30 inch 97 made in 1926 for $1000

@homeschooldaddyjournal9839 2 жыл бұрын

That gun is loved here in the US. People would pay in gold bars for that thing

@kylemonforte7583 2 жыл бұрын

1897s are still very affordable in the US. I picked up one made in 1929 for $300 just four years ago.

@bowbender5095 Жыл бұрын

I have my Grandfather’s 1897, it’s a 16 ga take down made in 1928 with a 26” cylinder bore, a family treasure!

@stevenh.390 Жыл бұрын

Just got a 1897, 1953 made. Beautiful gun, shoots like a dream!

@kevinmaughan4290 Жыл бұрын

Where did you get it

@SeaWarriorSon 2 жыл бұрын

My ‘97 (made in 1900) is still a perfectly fine gun today.

@gnarshread 2 жыл бұрын

I've never thought about the history of pumps. Thanks for the education.

@christopherroberts7052 2 жыл бұрын

I have one of these that I obtained from my wife’s uncle.It was made in 1900 and has a 30 inch barrel.When I had it restricted to 3 shots in 1989 I also had it re proofed as it was only black powder and it came back proofed as a 2and three quarter inch magnum and I had it bored out to half choke.It does cause some interest when I occasionally take it clay shooting.

@REVOLVER_NOIR 8 ай бұрын

I really enjoy the shotgun content. I actually own a Winchester Model 1897 Riot model. Excellent shotgun, shoots very well.

@lukedog7028 2 жыл бұрын

First time I pumped one of those it peeled the skin right off the top of my thumb. I remember someone describing the action of it as a gun that that looks like it falls all apart on the backstroke and miraculously goes back together on the front stroke. Or at least something to that effect.

@trucks_n_tractors_6335 2 жыл бұрын

I own one passed down from my great grandfather still take it out and shoot it every now and then

@funkla65 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, to have those two on the bench side by side would be a treat. And yeah, I'd say the 1897 is a further development of the Martini locking principle, with the breech face separated from the rear-pivoted locking block. The tipping bolt pumps are the slick ones. Take an Ithaca 37 or Winchester Model 12 for starters. And for ultraslick, a Remington 31 or a High Standard.

@harrymurphey2634 6 ай бұрын

.... you forgot one ... the Remington Model 17 ... designed Mr John Browning, released in 1917 but only in 20ga ... and that model was the direct father of the Ithaca Model 37 that was a slightly updated Model 17 by Peterson when the origonal patents ran out ...

@parrisgeorge9708 2 жыл бұрын

John you touched on something that's pretty interesting. Winchester for a long time would pretty much build any number of their firearms how the purchaser wanted. The buyer would for lack of a better term "check the boxes" and pay their money. Winchester would then just build it as a special order piece. I have a model 21 that falls into that area. It's also one of the reasons some people concentrate on collecting particular Winchester firearms. Depending on the serial number the Cody Firearms Museum may have the build sheet for that particular 97. They got a decent number of the factory records but by no means all.

@cmeeoutdoors7556 11 ай бұрын

Was just given a model 1897 made in 1911 takedown 12 gauge, 26 in barrel. Looks Almost Identical to the gun he has. I do wonder what it's worth? It's such an amazing gun

@user-ho4nw5sf3w 4 ай бұрын

That is a fine looking shotgun you got there. I don't think a finger pump shotgun has ever been made. I have a 1901 in good shooting condition.

@kerm9807 2 жыл бұрын

Pumps are awesome 👌

@NoneYaBidness762 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got an 1897. Neat shotgun.

@Berniessen 2 жыл бұрын

The 1893 is a stronger gun in terms of receiver but its unsafe as hell,and the 93 was redesigned and released as the model 1897. And yes these guns are old but if the action is tight and the barrel is good its no problem shooting it with normal (lead only) 12g shells.

@matt7220 2 жыл бұрын

Love this! Excellent video as usual ! Cheers !

@gimp6019 2 жыл бұрын

1897 clone is still in production by Cimarron for cowboy action shooters

@tomhman6441 2 жыл бұрын

Really nice review

@ShepFL002 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos young man

@joetruth5924 2 жыл бұрын

Great video John. Would love to see one on the Winchester Model 12.

@twinpotracer 2 жыл бұрын

Bloody interesting, that.

@iankelley7574 2 жыл бұрын

This shotgun might be worth restoring to its original beauty.

@theashbys8863 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jonny needed this vid today

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Hope all is well

@theashbys8863 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate all is well

@davidghirardi6282 2 жыл бұрын

Hola soy de Argentina muy buenos videos. Saludos.

@DFox-ud3gx 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny I think the 1897 was a trench gun in ww-1 . My grand Father was there and he talked about this gun .

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

It was under the M97/M1917 guise, with a massive bayonet and heat shield.

@forddude1976 Жыл бұрын

Was the Winchester 1897 Mead in 2+1 to meet the section 2?. I'd really like to have a copy of the trench gun ie hand sheild and bayonet. What is the UK law on deactivated I'd even have a deactivated one.

@aprilgalbraith5421 2 жыл бұрын

Wow thats just like the model 12 winchester

@bigboybiker4851 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I know it's nothing to do with this video but how much dose a game shoot cose I have just invested in my shot gun license a will be wanting to go on a game shoot.

@MrNocash13 2 жыл бұрын

Shame it's looking sketchy for pump action ownership in the UK at the moment.....

@montanamountainmen6104 Жыл бұрын

I have a reproduction 97 solid frame with a 20 inch imp. cyl. barrel. I've killed many ducks, grouse and rabbits with it.

@The_Young_Aristocrat 2 жыл бұрын

You need to review a L. C. Smith which was America’s Purdey, Boss, or Holland and Holland which ever is what you think is the best shotgun maker is.

@grannypanties4214 2 жыл бұрын

I love American guns but to compare an L.C. Smith to a Purdey or H&H is a bit much. I’ve handled LC Smith’s of many grades but quality of the fit, finish, lockwork etc just isn’t on the same level as a London best. It’s not that the American guns are bad, they’re just as good as many English guns and kill birds just as dead, but the top end English guns are just on their own level.

@The_Young_Aristocrat 2 жыл бұрын

@@grannypanties4214 I meant it to be that L. C. Smith was the best sidelock shotgun makers in America.

@traviscochran6280 2 жыл бұрын

I know an elderly farmer who has one and uses it to shoot pests on his land. He has also been known to shoot an occasional pheasant or even deer with it. I don't think he even owns another gun.

@zatszats 2 жыл бұрын

Pump actions... Next stop: Baikals...

@tgsoutdoors 2 жыл бұрын

Baikals are Cancelled

@zatszats 2 жыл бұрын

@@tgsoutdoors Yes, I agree. But ARs are freely sold so that every american wacko can kill his classmates. Guns are guns, no matter where they are built.

@NoneYaBidness762 2 жыл бұрын

@@zatszats freedom is scary. Doesn’t sound like you’d know about that.

@zatszats 2 жыл бұрын

@@NoneYaBidness762 If freedom means the "right to bear arms", no, I don't have the slightest idea.

@NoneYaBidness762 2 жыл бұрын

@@zatszats It should and it does.