Puppypaw was the absolute MVP here I think. Not only did he win with the wonder in the end with 3 players alive but he also killed the remaining 4 players or atleast got the points for those kills by sniping their last landmarks. Very methodical and clean game.

"That's the bit of the toast that matters the most." This is the commentary we keep coming back for.

Dam puppypaw was on fire this game: every single player that were eliminated met their end at the paw (so that's 4 x 3 for 12 points), then he built a wonder & successfully defended it (15 for victory + 5 bonus points for building a wonder with four players total still alive) Just this single game netted puppypaw 32 points!

Drongo upon reading the patch notes: "Why they nerf grenadiers and china so much? Civ is ruined..." Drongo during this cast: " Once you get to this many bombards and grenadiers there is basically no counter" This is why they needed a nerf Drongo.

Drongo when you complain about well deserved Grenadier nerfs, watch this game again ahaha

I think the new UI eats up too much of the game screen, when constantly shown. Would be cooler to sometimes show it and then hide it again for most of the time. Or make it like 25% the height with smaller fonts and less icons and such.

Such an amazing game! And there’s no ‘unfair’ pre-game alliances just randomly bully a player out

Puppypaw got an insane amount of points from this match. He elimated 4 players by killing their landmarks and won with a wonder build when 4 players were alive.

I got this game in a sale and now its finally dawn on me how good these players really are, like I get to second age in like 15 muinets if I rush for it with all my 3 hours of playtime these players are insane

I appreciate the reference to the Halo series which I’m not sure you ever actually refer to from the thumbnail. Great KZfaq series which was actually bought by a tv service.

No idea about current affairs, since I've been watching a lot of these Outback Octagon videos. But it'd be probably fun to watch the 2-team contest but hold a scoring system again, wherein the conditions are First Round: 8 players 1a) winning with a 3v1 gives equal, high points to the first and second best contributing player for the team win. 1b) winning with a 2v1 by wonder/sacred site, high points to the first contributing players from both sides. 1c) winning with a 2v1 by extinction, give 1st and 2nd place to both players of the same team. 2) those with high points can then point to form a team with any of the other players who didn't quite make it. 3) both sides will declare their respective empire with careful planning while map will be random. 4) Early K.O/lowest contributing players are eliminated. SCORING +goes, i.e 6, 6, 4, 3 for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th respectively, which will be true for the rest of the rounds. +Additional scores depending on how the fight was won (dependent on the map, imagine a sacred site victory cuz they were all easy to manage) +Incentivizing empire kills too, like the other games. Players can easily stack-up points that way. Additional drama in-fighting too. Just imagine some ally refusing to show up cuz "you'll steal my kill ywy". Second Round: 6 players 1a) Same condition as first round 1a 1b) Same condition as first round 1b 1c) Same condition as first round 1c 2) those with high points will not be able to pick their ally, left at random. Only assuming you can set it so there will only be a maximum of 2 teams for the map (a.k.a only Team 1's and 2's) 3) players will have random empire while the map will be fixed.. Third Round: 4 Players 1) Highest contributing players, regardless of their teams, gain equal and high points. 2) Those who have scored the best amongst the 4 will advance for a 1v1. 3) players will have random empire and map. Last Round, which will be very straight-forward. Assuming this entire competition will be a single-BRACKET 4v4 2-team battle. Can prolly make it a 2, 3, or 4-Bracket system wherein players may choose another player from outside their bracket, to switch up the players in-between brackets. The 4 top players may only choose their allies after all N Brackets have finished their matches. Though this may prolly end up locking top performing players in their own bracket and make them the "leader" for the bracket. Assuming the bracket system, prolly make it so the final round will be a 2v2v2v2 or 1v1v1v1, basically top performing from each bracket ends up playing together against other top performing players. Whichever floats their boat.

Drongo how we can see overall score of this tournament

Show the leaderboard for the OVERALL TOURNAMENT please, thank you sir!

Need to see Great Wall Fireworks shenanigans and Rus with Stone Walls in this FFA nomad megarandom setting

Great game as always Drongo, I hope this outback octagon never ends. But why are buildings faster then foot soldiers? That's just so ridiculous to see a building running away from units.

Could you imagine if Simtom had come back to life once the guild hall had finished? China would be even more OP lmao. "Oh, you think you can kill me?! Let me just send out 5 vills to build 5 landmarks around the map at once."

What's up drongo, regular viewer of your channel(not sure how I wasn't subscribed already, but I now am!) Just wanted to drop into the comments to say you make an awesome job of your content. It's always fun to watch your casted games and others. Your enthusiasm, humour and analysis are superb mate 👍

Dude the UI is blocking too much of the screen

That run at 40:00 was hilarious!

Amazing strategy & execution by Puppypaw, well deserved points. However it feels like Kyo & Kaup threw the game. Main Reason why Puppy could defend so well was that he had 200 army and had critical mass. Both Kyo & Kaup had the res to build a forward base, delete most vills and amass a gigantic push. Even if that took 5-7 min, they could have 8 min of push with 200 military each. I guess it's the greed of hoping to win after the Wonder is destroyed? I mean kauP even invested into a wonder himself instead of more military / less vills on res.

@Drongo, ngl I really don't like that huge overlay at the top; it's taking up too much screen real estate, and it's hard to see the actual game.

Thanks drongo

Odd that this video is already processed in 4k, but the previous one isn't.

Just thinking if this the great gate of china is new updated one with shooting capability.. Then the wonder is the best position wonder

KYO definitely threw this game, at least had the potential to do more. He had 85,000 resources in the bank but never made the army he needed to do literally anything.

Huge bank and the smallest army vs Wonder. Why Kyo? What was point of that?

poor simtom, should have sold that would out and tried for guild hall earlier

I see comments bashing Kyo’s mil count but pays no attention to the actual game state. Quickly, early he was building what he need to beat SortOf and he didnt have the res bank. Post PuppyPaw wonder drop, he needed to proxy past the lake. So his buildup was slow. So can criticism be made based on an analysis on how more production shouldve been set up with the proxy? Sure. Without analysis? those simplistic bashings are just that. Naive and meritless. (Still look forward to true insights. I am curious myself whether Kyo couldve done more in a significant way. At the end we saw PuppyPaw was high unlikely to hold even 2 more min - his army might still survive but the opposing siege wouldve gotten in range. So the margin of victory isnt high.)

There is so much scenario on fun diplomacy to be had with FFA. I think aoe4 should focus on this rather than 1v1. Having more experience on FFA could spell good content for players as well as casters. As players become more confortable playing among us with one another.

Can we see the points from the players?

Hey Drongo, the new UI is awesome though in my opinion, if possible to reduce it to 50% (if it's still visible) if would be perfect. Another idea that I do not know if it would work out so well, is to keep everything visible, and outside of the screen boundaries to have that input in small (might only be good for people in 2 or 4k as in 1080p the screen would be too small for that concept -- Though idk without seeing it) This is only an opinion should it would help by any way. Keep up the amazing content!

Phenomenal as always, puppypaw the king of wonders

HI DRONGO

Recently, I left a comment suggesting a China vs Mongol team match...when I saw this video drop, I legit got excited to see it...but sadly it was just a free for all... Not that it's a bad thing...just thought a 4 on 4 civ vs civ was about to happen.

puppypaw should have left striker alive; wait for one other player to die. THEN drop the wonder and finish stiker off that way he has the 5 points and vs. 2 other players only. mistake by him

Yeah this shows why china should be targeted. Insane eco, walls with over 9000 hp, broken bombards and grenadiers. Tbh their push could have been better, kyo was still at 150 vills making horsemen with over 20k gold banked and going for landmark snipes isnt good vs china, you just know they have one hanging around somewhere hidden or behind the wonder

You ever wonder why wer're here ?

Finally a Chinese win, because people couldn't be toxic this time and target the Chinese player down in time! :')

I never understood why you assume mongols will gg when they lose the khan. They're a decent unit with good buffs, but they're free and come back in ~2min. Why gg?

Huh?

Hey Drongo... Those stats up there for the eight players, take a lot of space and tbh it's just useless information, because it's too much information, not needed at the same time. It may work nice when on 1v1, but on FFA with 8 people, it's just too much info and waste of screen space. You can select players while commenting and then we can see the stats for each one. As it is now, we cannot see which player you have selected, nor we can see the original stats page of the game on the top left corner.

I mean the only reason there were red bases here is because there were blue bases over there.

21:59 someday Drongo will learn to check the minimap before making a claim like this. Dark blue in the minimap is not passable terrain. The center looks shallow but it's actually too deep for walking.

Drongo. You weird af man :(

Wtf do you mean red flag? Like my ex??? Or teams!?!!?

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Can't wait for the China nerfs. They are so op in ffa its not even funny.