I like that this is good faith but no nonsense. You're fair but you don't excuse any of Destiny's behavior even though you're clearly a fan. It also made me crack up a number of times, I really liked the courtroom format for this one, it was really fun. Honored as always to take part :D You used me well and the judge voice was quite fun.

This is an amazing video. Great work. Nice perspective. Very persuasive.

This is frustratinng because y'know Destiny is kind at heart,you know that he could do better than this yet stumbles at every step when trying to make a correct decision

Use me as an excuse to talk more about the wolf (?) guy in the first example !

Nice video, though I didn't know I was following yet another person in the twitch politics sphere... I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

the wolff analysis would be very interesting

how many dislike did this video got cuz I literally have to request the creator to ask about it

I'm like 99% sure booksmarts has had this discussion with destiny before (maybe even multiple times) and he was like "People are so bad faith to me I don't feel the need to be good faith to them" or something like that.

Also i follow Shaun on twitter, he does not seem that sociopathic

I think this was a really cool video format. I also liked some points you were reflecting, but I saw two things a little bit different. Destiny isn’t really a progressive in the terminus common in today’s America I think. When u go to the left side of the spectrum it is divided in left left (progressives) and middle left (liberals). I think this is important because in a big chunk of Europe a lot of destiny’s stands and points would be center some even center right. Here in Germany we wouldn’t really consider him left leaning overall. And the then the first cringe level:

I think at this point there's been too much bad blood between Destiny and the rest of the internet politics world, I can't imagine him being anything but bitter and angry. I've been watching him long enough that I've learned to filter out most of his vitriol, knowing what he's been through I can't honestly fault him for turning out this way, but I also don't blame anybody who finds a serious issue with it.

"Destiny was too mean to my favorite ultra progressive friends" all those three people were absolutely unreasonable in one way or another to steven and he doesn't need to be "the better person" especially with people who frankly were never charitable to him in the first place, I mean you put freaking demon mama here, who aside from being extremely bad faith is one of the most insufferable left streamers out there, for each leftist he's roasted he has done way worse to probably 10 right wingers and his community loves him for that, so I don't see the problem at all, you said it yoursel. Also the fact that you think that a concept so morally cut and dry such as defending your property against thieves is somehow something to be "discussed" is really sus dude.

Destiny popularized the debate format for better and for worse. As it is the format is flawed and can be ultimately hurful (go watch the Professor Flowers debacle to see how frustrating these things can get) .And ultimately i have mixed feelings on the matter.On one hand,it was the thing that got me into leftist content in the first place whilst also being a point of contention for many MANY leftist .I guess what im trying to say is that just like what Noah Samsen said:LISTEN to the critques,listen to what the others have to say,think critically abt it and form your opinion.And i think that some debate streamers SOMETIMES not always remember the first three

This is the worst thing since this morning. Bye.

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Yikes. If Vaush is the better example, things are BAD.

Meh he was fair to vaush on the rittenhouse case, vaush sounded almost like one of those preachers from the 90's

I don’t think he would disagree with you