The Phenomenal Rise of F.P. Journe + Independent Watchmaking with Aurel Bacs of Phillips
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Күн бұрынHistorian, scholar, legend of the watch auction world, and unconfirmed holder of a crystal ball, Aurel Bacs is the Senior Consultant at Phillips Watches in Association with Bacs and Russo, and our esteemed guest on today’s episode of The Journe Report.
Aurel is quadrilingual, charismatic, and has stood behind the rostrum with perfect choreography for record-shattering sales the world over. He values authenticity - from the standpoint of a watch being a true mirror of its creator’s mind. He recognizes talent and creative genius - from Philippe Dufour to Kari Voutilainen, Denis Flageollet of De Bethune, and of course, François-Paul Journe. And he articulates the remarkable changes in the watch industry and the landscape of collectors over the last 25+ years from both logical and emotional perspectives.
In this informative and insightful conversation, George and Aurel explore the phenomenal rise in interest in independent watchmaking and the ‘Adam and Eve’ moments for F.P. Journe. They also discuss the unique set of all five F.P. Journe Souscription models that will be sold by Phillips in the fall. Tune into the episode and enjoy!
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@user-et5lc9tp2c 27 күн бұрын
What a refreshing interview!!!!! We need more of this......
@user-fi5fr9us2t 2 жыл бұрын
Aurel's unbiased honesty is a pleasure to listen to!!!
@sergeyzerkin8029 2 жыл бұрын
Fake as fuck … just like all shit he says about the watches never being worn lol ..
@antonioraffa123 Жыл бұрын
It's always a special treat to find another conversation with Aurel Bacs. I appreciate his views for his intelligence, politeness, and extensive knowledge and experience which place him at the pinnacle of guests to invite.
@stevesmith7997 2 жыл бұрын
You let Accountants take the lead in any creative industry and it will fail! Great interview!
@dannysimenauer5745 2 жыл бұрын
Aurel confirmed a lot about what I was thinking regarding the watch industry and independents. I would love to hear a follow-on video focusing on what makes the smaller independents so great from a heuristic perspective in depth. For example, the movements and other he finishing.
@dannysimenauer5745 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see Tim Mosso and Aurel do a video!
@hyunchang0306 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to interview is to question and listen, not long personal statements that the guest and viewers may already know.
@amintaslneto 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice watch talk. Couldn't agree more with Auriel and George about the importance to brand consistency in watchmaking. Collectors are more and more informed nowadays. Ficticious "limited" editions seems not to work so well anylonger.
@BobbyDazzler888 2 жыл бұрын
no need. limit supply is more powerful.
@robboyer6448 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting and important conversation. Thank you for this!!
@vricardo917k 2 жыл бұрын
Great talk! Thanks for making it!
@ronp4737 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting...great video. This is what watch collectors want....thank you!
@JoeyJiggles 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing interview. Wow.
@volkerhoeschele1449 2 жыл бұрын
What a Great Video about horology...and what a Great Sales man😀
@vricardo917k 2 жыл бұрын
Every brand is independent before being bought (or sold!) by a conglomerate, so people tend to forget that Blancpain, Panerai and others were independent back in the eighties...!
@salmana4239 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Dubai Wow what an amazing set of insights
@stevenljj 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the conversation. Nice movie!
@c.tobias6603 2 жыл бұрын
I like the WatchBox team and their content, but this is what I hear whenever they put George on camera: "Journe Journe Journe Journe Journe Journe Journe Journe Journe . . . "
@hyunchang0306 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative from a reputable man.
@johnlacroix1639 2 жыл бұрын
WOW 1st class very kool great info.,, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.
@Yakman18 2 жыл бұрын
When are the F.P. Journes coming up for auction?
@SusloNick 2 жыл бұрын
good description of soulless corporate vs authentic artistry of independents
@andreamazzanti3681 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting
@Joe-xo3xy 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, from the results we have seen in auction where new watches are selling multiples over their retail, it is not encouraging and it cannot be called a totally honest market. The latest example is the green 5711 that sold for a very silly price, only to find out the sale was fixed. I am very sure there are many more sales like this. Would you consider Jean Claude Biver's collection as pure love, he knew ahead of time regarding appreciation in price. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed listening to Aurel, was an interesting and entertaining show
@BobbyDazzler888 2 жыл бұрын
bought my CB at retail
@speeddog1955 2 жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏
@johnclark8455 2 жыл бұрын
Manjos son is trying to bait journe into the convo at every turn
@Hoss_D 2 жыл бұрын
That is why Moser lost me: limited edition dials that then appeared in a different model. Sold all of mine and will never buy another much as I like Edouard.
@davidjb3671 2 жыл бұрын
Which model(s) do you mean - I can't recall seeing that?
@Hoss_D 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjb3671 Blue Lagoon dial coming back in steel and then as the Pioneer Mega Cool, the Blue dial Flying Hours being re-released with a slight variation. Those are the ones that directly affected me.
@davidjb3671 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hoss_D I see. My concern with Moser is their newer releases seem split between entry-level Pioneers and ultra high-end tourbillons, which to me seem pointless. My sweet spot is the mid-range $20K to $50K, and they don't seem to be doing much there, having discontinued the Venturer and Swiss Alp lines. I'll still be hanging on to my Venturer Concept Small Seconds XL Arctic Blue and Streamliner Matrix Green though 😉
@Hoss_D 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjb3671 Yeah a bit of an overreaction on my part but I was sorely disappointed in that part of their philosophy. I expected Edouard to be perhaps a bit less corporate. I'll stick with my Journes and Gauthiers for now I guess. My loss, really, as Mosers are beautiful, no doubt.
@BobbyDazzler888 2 жыл бұрын
lazy faceless dials, arrogant ceo
@coldteeth24 2 жыл бұрын
Mae-yay-stro
@s1u8n 2 жыл бұрын
The comparison btwn Mr. Journe and Picasso is invalid. Supply for Picasso pieces are literally 0 with his passing. Where as Journe's design and blue print is already there, there can be many ilterations of the Resonance after Journe's passing.
@f5garage401 2 жыл бұрын
A sub is not a luxury item. It's a tool watch that any joe schmo should be able to walk into a dealer and buy
@styx4947 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you could start a new nation, the most famous one being "Launched" circa 1776. Every Brand has to start somewhere. Imagine A.L. Bregue, or Messr's Patek, and Philippe. Joules Ademar, Edward Pigue. They were the F.P Journe's of the 19th century.
@robertosanchez4021 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest concern with FP Journe is that it is a" one man Brand" even though it has a big group behind..., and also that one company is controlling princes in secondary market... don't think is sustainable.. the comparison with Ferrari does not apply because it needed a complete rebranding and lot's of money after Mr Enzo died...
@BobbyDazzler888 2 жыл бұрын
roger dubuis.... look what happened.
@chiefexecutiveofficerofyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
george, have you been crying?
@ColonelJGHyde 2 жыл бұрын
He is fresh from emerging from a toilet cubible. Whereby He had been sobbing his little heart out. The anticipation of this ass kissing exercise left him so emotional.
@rezamotori5709 2 жыл бұрын
or popping molly?
@bharatc.sampat6406 2 жыл бұрын
WRONG
@derrekb4501 2 жыл бұрын
Great designer who only makes a small handful of watches and caterers to the elites by default, yet the dumb watch nerds think FPJ is the shit. Ugliest old man watches like petaks are exactly the reason Rolex is the biggest and most sought by general population by a wide margin. This is a fucking joke FPJ is a fucking joke...no Rolex actually does not make the prettiest watches. It’s the companies like FPJ Patek IWC Langer make the ugliest pieces and prices that only billionaire can afford...yet the more scarce they are the more public believe they are better. Same thing is happening with Rolex as we speak.
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