THE PRISONER, Rejected 1st theme.

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Pmg6portmeirion

Pmg6portmeirion

16 жыл бұрын

Very rare vid showing what the opening credits would've looked like using Robert Farnons "big country" style composition as explained by music editor Robert Dearberg.

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@shawnfella
@shawnfella 5 жыл бұрын
The Little Prisoner On The Prairie.
@miliamince
@miliamince 15 жыл бұрын
In a Lotus 7, you can actually go under those barriers...he was being very polite in taking a ticket considering he was resigning ;)
@phillyflash43
@phillyflash43 7 жыл бұрын
I can't stop picturing a cowboy on a galloping horse for that theme, lol...
@talkinganimals
@talkinganimals 14 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the theme for a show where the characters from Dallas perform a corporate merger with the Beverly Hillbillies, who take in the Waltons as boarders, and open a Wild West theme park... all turned into a spoof done by The Young Ones.
@jerrykitich3318
@jerrykitich3318 2 жыл бұрын
Get those wagons rolling.
@grinsko6741
@grinsko6741 3 ай бұрын
Genius! 🤣
@enigmagenesis7341
@enigmagenesis7341 Ай бұрын
😂
@grinsko6741
@grinsko6741 Ай бұрын
This is not a number; it’s an abomination.
@barbarakirk3064
@barbarakirk3064 20 күн бұрын
That could also tie in with Red Dwarf's Gunmen Of The Apocalypse episode!
@macten11
@macten11 4 жыл бұрын
Whew! not dark enough. To lighthearted.
@tubian323
@tubian323 15 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's way more like a western theme than a spy/sci-fi theme.
@gomro
@gomro 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this bit of alternate history. They couldn't have gotten it any more wrong.
@ryoushii
@ryoushii 14 жыл бұрын
I listen to this and expect to see a herd of cattle and cowboys riding the range going hee yah. Might have made a good secondary opening for the Harmony episode.
@davidcritchley3509
@davidcritchley3509 6 жыл бұрын
Ride 'em cowboy! The Magnificant One!
@Baelmyrrdn
@Baelmyrrdn 10 жыл бұрын
Yikes. I'm glad they rejected it! (It sounds like something better suited to Bonanza than The Prisoner)
@MKIVWWI
@MKIVWWI 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Number Six joins the Cartrights on the Ponderosa Ranch! lol
@littleneutrin0
@littleneutrin0 4 жыл бұрын
Could have used it for Living in Harmony perhaps.
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence 3 жыл бұрын
i would have said more like the saint...
@storminboy
@storminboy Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I thought it was the start to The Big Country theme.
@altfactor
@altfactor 7 жыл бұрын
The theme music eventually chosen was by far the right choice. This first rejected theme certainly could have been used as incidental music during an episode.
@christophernuzzi2780
@christophernuzzi2780 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this was changed to the classic Ron Grainer theme!
@petermcintyreA1
@petermcintyreA1 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God they saw sense. The chosen theme was often hummed amongst my class mates at school, as we were so much into the series, at the time.....
@EdOscuro
@EdOscuro 16 жыл бұрын
It would've been hilarious if they used this theme for Living in Harmony.
@markgriffiths8786
@markgriffiths8786 6 жыл бұрын
Never mind Robert , you wrote a great theme for 'Colditz' !
@stu1701E
@stu1701E 2 жыл бұрын
They missed a trick by not using this as the opening theme for "Living in Harmony"
@chetvaldes
@chetvaldes 11 жыл бұрын
Funny- at first I hated it, but now I can't get it out of my head! There's something about it's energy that I like.
@shitsumeilegumovitch
@shitsumeilegumovitch Жыл бұрын
I agree. It works really well with the quick edits of the opening, much better than what they ended up using.
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 2 ай бұрын
It's got a good melodic hook but it definitely sounds hopeful and horsey, not paranoid and modern
@robharding4028
@robharding4028 Жыл бұрын
Excellent choice of music, this is just plain, but the original theme chosen was definitely the right choice.
@EnergyOM
@EnergyOM 11 жыл бұрын
That theme would have worked for the episode that played in a wild west town.
@95thFoot
@95thFoot 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say, this is growing on me. I like it.
@dougalmac54
@dougalmac54 11 жыл бұрын
This village ain't big enough for the both of us, hoss!
@phillipbonner9944
@phillipbonner9944 25 күн бұрын
😅😅
@adminkoff
@adminkoff 15 жыл бұрын
Fascinating bit of history. Thanks for posting!
@mariegriffiths2713
@mariegriffiths2713 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine what McGoohan said when this was presented to him. "At what stage did I say cowboy?"
@alexrodriguez9441
@alexrodriguez9441 8 жыл бұрын
That's actually a very enjoyable piece of music... but it's much too optimistic. Glad they changed it.
@Roescoe
@Roescoe 6 жыл бұрын
Heh it sounds like the Thunderbirds with all that percussion.
@dannyventure
@dannyventure 3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness calmer heads prevailed
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b
@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 16 жыл бұрын
I said to myself thats the music to Big Country! Then the editor said the same thing and I patted myself on the back, lol. Amazing how important a thing like music is to the success of a film, they did a great job with the theme music that was picked, it's awesome!
@GeorgiaJen
@GeorgiaJen 10 жыл бұрын
Too conventional, not sinister or off-beat enough. Totally different vibe. I can see why they rejected it..
@MISTERASMODEUS
@MISTERASMODEUS 5 жыл бұрын
I am so glad this was rejected. It sounds like a 60s western. It also is awkward.
@Romantic_At_Heart
@Romantic_At_Heart 6 жыл бұрын
So glad they chose the other theme.
@CaminoAir
@CaminoAir 6 жыл бұрын
I always tuned into repeats of 'The Prisoner' to hear Grainer's theme. It works as a combination spy theme/surreal, over the top theme that suits the show. The original theme here sounds like a cross between 'The Big Country' and a more conventional 1960's thriller show and the orchestration isn't well chosen.
@UNOwen1
@UNOwen1 12 жыл бұрын
It definitely is 'different' than Ron Grainer's familiar theme. While I don't dislike it ((I DO dislike Wilfred Joseph's), it doesn't fit withe the 'menacing' undercurrent that Grainer's theme has. My favourite version of the Grainer theme has always been the FALLOUT theme, with the horns, which really give a foreboding quality to what had taken place in ONCE UPON A TIME, and, what will happen, in FALLOUT.
@leelarson6534
@leelarson6534 8 жыл бұрын
I would have rejected that first theme myself. It belongs with a BBC situation comedy series.
@Mishima505
@Mishima505 4 жыл бұрын
Or Carry On Number Six?
@barbarakirk3064
@barbarakirk3064 20 күн бұрын
@@Mishima505 Number 6 meets The Rumpo Kid in Stodge City!
@tjscott395
@tjscott395 9 жыл бұрын
That would have worked better for Bonanza than The Prisoner.
@lukasdowd
@lukasdowd 4 жыл бұрын
This is good for "The Alamo" not for "The Prisoner"
@bpage4132
@bpage4132 3 ай бұрын
I love this alternate theme, and I think this should make this for western movies or TV series like Bonanza, etc. Hi Ho, Number 6!😊😇❤💯
@gary7vn
@gary7vn 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing bit of history. The Prisoner was a great great show. The score, as chosen was superb. Thanks for posting this!
@johcafra
@johcafra 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be too harsh with Farnon, a genuinely talented composer and among the very few arrangers Frank Sinatra could work with. Paddy likely didn't give any of the candidate composers much to work with. The choice is always clearer in hindsight. Josephs' theme was (as only a German instructor could say it) "a little too weird," and even Grainer's was redone (search for his "Age of Elegance"). Suffice it to say this show kept a lot of folks guessing...and to its great credit still does!
@pogolswood
@pogolswood 11 жыл бұрын
Cowboy film theme music definitely. Something the composer had lying around.
@galinneall
@galinneall 15 жыл бұрын
It is sooooo 60s! It's exactly what you would expect from a typical second-rate detective/adventure t.v. series, which the composer probably thought he was writing it for. Problem is that the Prisoner wasn't a typical series and couldn't use typical music. "The Age of Elegance" fit perfectly.
@iwasthor
@iwasthor 11 жыл бұрын
Praise da Lawd it got rejected. That theme music would have done well for the Big Valley which was a 60's western show. I mean I expect the Indians to attack a fort full of soldiers.
@inversion66
@inversion66 10 жыл бұрын
It would have made a good theme for McCloud.
@SoloPilot6
@SoloPilot6 15 жыл бұрын
Yee haw! Who is Number One? HOSS CARTWRIGHT!
@phillipbonner9944
@phillipbonner9944 25 күн бұрын
😅😅
@stingray4real
@stingray4real 6 ай бұрын
It sounded like the film score The Big Country. Thank goodness it was rejected.
@darren2514fv
@darren2514fv 10 жыл бұрын
the two rejected themes were used on other ITC shows this one on the Champions for the scenes introducing each of the agents voiced over by David Bauer but this one could still have been used on The Prisoner in the episode A Town Called Harmony
@MKIVWWI
@MKIVWWI 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't David Bauer play "Morton Slumber" of Slumber Mortuary in 1971's "Diamonds are Forever"? Where Bond almost gets burnt to a crisp in the crematorium?
@bpage4132
@bpage4132 Жыл бұрын
@@MKIVWWI Yes, he did.
@erjo8199
@erjo8199 4 жыл бұрын
I instantly thought of the Big Country too
@toml.1408
@toml.1408 8 ай бұрын
We are all very lucky that the 1st theme was rejected.
@paddy9i99
@paddy9i99 11 жыл бұрын
Get annnnn yer sports car and ride outta town boy
@xerxesxylophone7188
@xerxesxylophone7188 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the Big Country!
@shanewaterman4125
@shanewaterman4125 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God they binned it!
@Floorguy1000
@Floorguy1000 4 жыл бұрын
Omg... we dodged a bullet there! ( by this NOT being the music used.) Thanks for posting.. very interesting.
@kurtb8474
@kurtb8474 10 жыл бұрын
It's too light. Or it sounds like it belongs in a western.
@raverdeath100
@raverdeath100 11 жыл бұрын
" I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM.... YEEEEHAAAAWWWWW!! "
@RetroGamebloke
@RetroGamebloke 4 жыл бұрын
If the Prisoner had used this it would be forgotten. Thankfully, Patrick fought for a better theme, tooth and nail :) Let's face it, he nailed the final version :)
@captainbedworthy
@captainbedworthy 9 жыл бұрын
There's a reason it was rejected, it's not nearly as effective as electric guitar, bongo's and horns wound up being.
@professor_stevens6784
@professor_stevens6784 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, hey, I never thought about the percussion being bongos, but you're right (or might as well be). Wonder if that kind of arrangement would cross anyone's mind today, or would it all be Hans Zimmer and sweeping synthetic glissandos? (Not that I don't love Hans Zimmer, but I love Ron Grainer too.)
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 9 жыл бұрын
epic fail seems more like a western
@aardvark280
@aardvark280 8 жыл бұрын
+paul hunter true... and does not complement the editing of the visuals at all!
@MKIVWWI
@MKIVWWI 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, good song, but horrible match for The Prisoner!
@LouisaMusyoka
@LouisaMusyoka 5 жыл бұрын
paul hunter
@sirjanska9575
@sirjanska9575 8 жыл бұрын
This music makes me think of cowboys and indians chasing each other in the prairies with lassos and bows.
@TheScavenger71
@TheScavenger71 7 жыл бұрын
I agree..... it reminds me of the music from the old Marlboro commercials.
@gerardphillips7507
@gerardphillips7507 18 күн бұрын
Such a good decision to reject this first introduction!
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Upload! Didn't know ANY of this as a very casual Prisoner fan! Thank you. This just makes the show distinctly UNMENACING and makes me appreciate Grainer even more if that's possible. There is a subversive genius in this version too but it's just not right is it?
@GPGaal
@GPGaal 10 жыл бұрын
Yee-haw!
@edwardgrabczewski
@edwardgrabczewski 2 жыл бұрын
Thank god they didn't use this theme. It has echoes of The Magnificent Seven!
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 10 ай бұрын
sounds like the theme to the Western Magnificent Seven
@SteveBrant55
@SteveBrant55 9 ай бұрын
Wow! Who thought this show should sound like a Western during its opening credits? I keep looking for Marshall Matt Dillon to show up!
@RammatRamzi
@RammatRamzi 3 жыл бұрын
If they stuck with that opening thing, we wouldn't be talking about the Prisoner now.
@johnwilliams2479
@johnwilliams2479 3 жыл бұрын
First one is like that sound track to The Big Country
@staberind
@staberind 15 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeehaw!! ride 'em Pat! [ohghodthisisdross]
@andrewrooney8264
@andrewrooney8264 10 жыл бұрын
That theme music would never have worked as a ringtone.
@teecee1567
@teecee1567 3 жыл бұрын
That makes me think of a western!
@abcbatman1966
@abcbatman1966 9 ай бұрын
This would’ve been a great theme if James Drury had played The Prisoner..
@thatvegasguy
@thatvegasguy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I would have ever watched with this theme.
@anthonyluisi7096
@anthonyluisi7096 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was rejected ... sounds like the sound track to a US WESTERN /Cowboy TV SHOW 😨
@michaelnorthcote3194
@michaelnorthcote3194 3 ай бұрын
The start is exactly the same as the Big Country theme!
@gary7vn
@gary7vn 12 жыл бұрын
I was shocked to see that you still had your notes, after all these years. Did you have any sense of how good the show was going to be?
@rupertchappelle5303
@rupertchappelle5303 Ай бұрын
rather light hearted and upbeat, missing horse hooves.
@borusa32
@borusa32 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the opening to The Big Country
@OrchestrationOnline
@OrchestrationOnline 11 жыл бұрын
Rightly rejected.
@altfactor
@altfactor 15 жыл бұрын
This was so "wrong". The theme they ended up with was the best possible choice.
@stevenn5764
@stevenn5764 4 жыл бұрын
Very Western oriented piece of music - I am so glad they rejected it.. I don't think the show would have had the same feel about it if they hadn't.
@jeprice08
@jeprice08 15 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be quite honest with you and you can ridicule me all you want, but I liked it. I mean the music, the beat and all, but I agree that it wouldn't have worked as the theme song for that show. Neither would the second one work, although it's pretty good too.
@bpage4132
@bpage4132 3 ай бұрын
Ride `em, Number 6!😊😇💯❤
@raymondoreilly959
@raymondoreilly959 3 жыл бұрын
reminds me of a westren for some reason .I see Yul Brynner on a back of a horse
@barbarakirk3064
@barbarakirk3064 20 күн бұрын
Westworld!
@CarlB_1962
@CarlB_1962 6 жыл бұрын
Great piece of music, just not right for The Prisoner's main theme. The one they finally chose is perfect for it.
@belkys120
@belkys120 8 жыл бұрын
THE PRISONER :GREAT TV SHOW. SPY VS SPY . AND HOW TO BREAK DOWN A PROFESSIONAL.!!. AND MAKE HIM TALK ABOUT ALL HIS CASES. HE REFUSE TO GIVE IN . AND FIGHTS FOR HIS FREEDOM. !!!!.
@kevindouglas8652
@kevindouglas8652 3 жыл бұрын
Shocking.
@67roko
@67roko 10 жыл бұрын
good call.
@ajvonline
@ajvonline Ай бұрын
...and then they all realized that 'The Prisoner' isn't a western.
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger Ай бұрын
Too funny. Would be good for a western or a one off action sequence.
@kurtb8474
@kurtb8474 14 жыл бұрын
@enemyofbohemia I agree. I was waiting for John Wayne to come riding down the tunnel on a horse.
@barbarakirk3064
@barbarakirk3064 20 күн бұрын
'Get out your car and drink your milk!'
@rendezvouzwithrama
@rendezvouzwithrama 10 ай бұрын
Talk about dodging a bullet.
@Tony11806
@Tony11806 Ай бұрын
I thought it sounded more like a theme for a Western film before he mentioned it at the end of the video.
@migmadmarine
@migmadmarine 4 жыл бұрын
the one they used was much more "mod".😏
@bc1969214
@bc1969214 14 жыл бұрын
Guess this could have been a one episode use for Living in Harmony.
@SHONNER
@SHONNER Ай бұрын
I can't even watch half of this vid. The music hurts.
@krelbar
@krelbar 10 жыл бұрын
I kind of like the pause with the drums during the resignation scene...I wonder what affect that would have had using the origina theme? Other than that, I agree with others...the theme doesn't fit at all.
@davidgo8874
@davidgo8874 3 жыл бұрын
It's like the opening theme for Dame Edna
@cheesehoven
@cheesehoven 14 жыл бұрын
It shows you how important music is. Had that been used, the series would probably have bombed.
@mallecort
@mallecort 12 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt they made the right choice.
@jefffuller9918
@jefffuller9918 2 ай бұрын
"YEE HAW" instead of "Be seeing you."
@SylvioGoncalves
@SylvioGoncalves 14 жыл бұрын
Sounds very much like Farnon' The Champions.
@ShannonFAVsongPG
@ShannonFAVsongPG 12 жыл бұрын
it wasn't dark enough--too upbeat. it would make a good theme for another show
@vintagethings9187
@vintagethings9187 2 жыл бұрын
The Big Country on speed! Thank God they didn’t go with it. (Sorry composer!)
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