The problem with bind and fly "freestyle" drones

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BOTGRINDER

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Жыл бұрын

Bind and flys are great for beginners and people that dont want to build, but if you want to fly HARDCORE FPV FREESTYLE then you may want to look at other options.
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@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
This bnf flew great!: bit.ly/3UFbrNW My "hardcore fpv" build bit.ly/3Grz9sF Lets build a drone park fpvpark.com Holiday sweater!: bit.ly/3EL2sF4 Botgrinder frame! bit.ly/3xMo8go Botgrinder motors! bit.ly/3z05EZD
@loen9591
@loen9591 Жыл бұрын
You know you did not pin your comment right
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
@@loen9591 lol good looks
@SemiCollin
@SemiCollin Жыл бұрын
The 2nd link doesn’t work
@WickedWaysfpv7087
@WickedWaysfpv7087 Жыл бұрын
been flying the iflight nazgul 5 and it's been extremely durable on bando bashing but my next frame is 100% going to be the demibot. I love the design and out of all the fpv guys out there you're channel has the best content 🙌🙌
@XtianApi
@XtianApi Жыл бұрын
Me to on the nazgul, I so wish it didn't have those light channels on the arms. Looks cool, but I broke two arms where the screw goes through the arm and the channel sort of splits there also. Like maybe it would hold off that channel wasn't there? To be fair, I failsafed twice at about 300 feet onto concrete. So I don't know if all arms would break on all drones. Maybe they would. But it flys great
@Monkey_D_Cluffy
@Monkey_D_Cluffy Жыл бұрын
Dude i just found your channel randomly and you are like my favorite FPV channel now! You made hitting gaps easy 😂
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
haha thanks for watchin! i put out a new video every saturday!
@andiprogshop3097
@andiprogshop3097 Жыл бұрын
Hey Bot, i enjoy watching your videos a lot. I've stopped watching the other pilots because they are all the same somehow, but you come up with another interesting topic every time and i think that's absolute awesome. Keep doing what makes you happy my friend
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watchin!
@TheBoatPirate
@TheBoatPirate Жыл бұрын
​@BOTGRINDER hey did you ever get anyone with that fart spray? 😂😂😂
@slaughtercarterfpv1336
@slaughtercarterfpv1336 Жыл бұрын
Much respect, started with one idea and changed his mind. This is why I support
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Not afraid to change my mind when presented with information lol
@LetsFlyRC
@LetsFlyRC Жыл бұрын
Funny AF. I love how you tell it like it is. Great vid
@Swoopfpv
@Swoopfpv Жыл бұрын
I’m building this frame right now and it is solid! I have no regrets paying top dollar to get top quality thanks Bot❤
@Holdenmagroyn
@Holdenmagroyn Жыл бұрын
i literally have 0 problems with my iflight nazgul, its also super easy to work on and upgrade. good to learn tuning on. I have crashed the shit out of it, and only broken props. I literally don't see any problems with bind and flies, other than the fact that they might have wonky tunes from the factory. edit: price also, maybe a few years ago before covid you could source parts for a really good freestyle build, relatively cheap, but you cant do that anymore. I had multiple wish lists and shopping carts with different builds, and I never committed because its cheaper to purchase a bind and fly, and just upgrade as stuff breaks. Using the nazgul as an example, i purchased it for 200 on banggood, even after shipping it was cheaper than buying all of the parts and putting it together myself. Decent stacks are at least $70-100, 4 motors and a spare is at least $60-80 dollars, then add a $20-50 frame, 800mw vtx, Decent good quality camera, receiver, a couple sets of props, thats at least $250, and thats for cheap parts.
@NightRiderFPV
@NightRiderFPV Жыл бұрын
The problem is Botgrinder doesn't sell bind n fly's.
@tbounds4812
@tbounds4812 Жыл бұрын
yeah nazguls are sick the stock vtx is garbage but apart from that they are solid fucken quads
@barkvarkie_fpv8623
@barkvarkie_fpv8623 Жыл бұрын
The Nazgul frame (both the F5X and the F5D), just like the BotGrinder frame, has 6mm arms held together by 3mm plates. While Foxeer do not give full specs for their frame, judging by the weight, is seems like a very lightweight frame and therefore the carbon used for the arms and plates must be quite a bit thinner? I have tons of time for Doug, but on this one, he does not get my vote as he chose a single B'nF quad and drew generalised assumptions about all.
@KremerFPV
@KremerFPV Жыл бұрын
Foxeer definitely did a great job, and so did you 😉
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks bro
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
Bought my Roma F5 almost 2 years ago. Love it still. Edit: There are lots of reasons people go BNF. Low stock on parts, long shipping times. They're in a hurry to get started. Don't "want" to solder, or just don't have time.
@PropsOutProductions
@PropsOutProductions 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, my Roma F5 was and still is my absolute favorite frame, bought the BNF 2 years ago like you and it's still solid
@SirCrashaLot
@SirCrashaLot Жыл бұрын
Foxeer is knocking it out the park. Their racer is my build - the frame. I am so close to just get their Caesar and stop building. Good times.
@PeugeotL-vd2le
@PeugeotL-vd2le Жыл бұрын
Lmao the roast on bardwell 😂😂😂
@angelao
@angelao Жыл бұрын
Thank you, you described these nuanced differences very well. I don't have grass where I live and I've already had a smaller "freestyle" BNF take a beating after taking one hard dirt nap. Steep learning curve to build though... It's daunting.
@daltonboucher8162
@daltonboucher8162 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your content thumbs up bud
@SkeezyFPV
@SkeezyFPV Жыл бұрын
Epic video, bot. The part about alcoholics or if you have the shakes killed me 😂😂😂.
@HolaACchillin
@HolaACchillin Жыл бұрын
Great video BOTGRINDER! Bnf have come a long way for sure and you are correct - a lot of bnf drones have weak frames. Ideally someone should purchase a bnf and a demibot frame at the same time. When the bnf frame breaks convert components over to a real freestyle frame like the demibot💯 (I always adjust pids on bnf to my liking)
@redcobra1246
@redcobra1246 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your honesty lol
@edrone_
@edrone_ Жыл бұрын
There is something over near that tower that made me failsafe this past summer first failsafe I've had with crossfire. Awesome video and definitely agree that building drones is usually more durable of a option 🤟
@GuruGoesUTube
@GuruGoesUTube Жыл бұрын
Pause the video when bot is approaching the tower, there are loads of antennas on top of that tower. I'd say that's why you guys failsafed there. A friend of mine once failsafed with crsf on top of a wind turbine. They got antennas on there too. Don't know what frequency those are on but they sure got loads of power.
@edrone_
@edrone_ Жыл бұрын
@@GuruGoesUTube yeah for sure I'm lucky I didn't failsafe more than once because I dove that building multiple times lol 😆
@Raven187FPV
@Raven187FPV Жыл бұрын
Awesome review bro
@starman5565
@starman5565 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always 👌 👏 👍
@lambo_drives
@lambo_drives 9 ай бұрын
10:37 that's one f!cking cool Ken.. thanks Ken for giving the world a good attitude
@avijitkarmakar3744
@avijitkarmakar3744 5 ай бұрын
00:53 I was not ready for that 😂
@loaderqsf
@loaderqsf Жыл бұрын
You rock brother love your channel
@DrMacca
@DrMacca Жыл бұрын
7:19 when Bot literally jumps with surprise at @IzzyBoop - lmfao
@WHEATSFPV
@WHEATSFPV Жыл бұрын
another banger video. :D
@amosagregory
@amosagregory Жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best. I use the term freestyle like a mad man. Mostly likely incorrectly. I always intend to fly something cool and then I get distracted, cruise slow and just look at stuff. #fpvfreestyle #freestylefpv
@willbrown8928
@willbrown8928 Жыл бұрын
I knew Mike V. years ago. Ray Barbie introduced me to him. I love that deck!
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Bro thats awesome
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and fun video review of bnf "freestyle" drones, well one bnf. Apparently there's quite a few "pilots" that really like the Nazgul, see if iflight will send you one to rip. I love to build my own, but these days I can see people buying a bnf to get going. Or they don't have time to build or want to. They are so much better than those made just a few years ago. Happy ripping everyone. 👍💖😎
@quad_jake904
@quad_jake904 Жыл бұрын
Your input maybe the most important for bnf freestyle quads! Most Real Drone User, keep bashing the bands!
@djbis
@djbis Жыл бұрын
I'm liking that Tee!
@michaelfitzhenry6788
@michaelfitzhenry6788 Жыл бұрын
Good video like what you do Your frames are the best the strongest And if you want to grow as an ftv pilot you will Need a strong durable bando bashing frame
@jesselopezdrones4396
@jesselopezdrones4396 Жыл бұрын
I build my quads but my wife bought me a bnf iflight evoque 1 year ago. For Christmas, I've been bashing 6s hard still flies like a champ. Not a fan but just do like it.
@Holdenmagroyn
@Holdenmagroyn Жыл бұрын
i dont understand that last sentence.
@tbounds4812
@tbounds4812 Жыл бұрын
@@Holdenmagroyn he's not a fan but he just do like it
@25eazi
@25eazi Жыл бұрын
i have a sector D5. I have had some hard smacks. no bends, breaks, no broken motors etc... thani god lol. Love it
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
awesome!
@ruddig
@ruddig Жыл бұрын
yo bot grinder, i am a friend of gelato fpv, whats up buddy, we are almost neibors, im in nwi, anyway like the vids and thanks bro!!!!!
@835FPV
@835FPV Жыл бұрын
Whenever I've looked at a bnf, it's with the expectation that I'd be putting its guts into another frame shortly thereafter. I don't do much Bando stuff, though. But sometimes it's somehow cheaper to get the bnf than get the parts individually. Either way my goal is to always have enough parts laying around to build a new quad or fixed wing. The bnfs are just fuel for the fire lol
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Great point haha as this is what I do with my Micros.
@bigbellyflyer
@bigbellyflyer Жыл бұрын
Holy ship ! Dude you totally crack me up man.. I would like to see more of that skate dude actor, that’s some funny ship. Dig your videos , from an old Santa Cruz skater . Later man…
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Ey man thanks for watching!
@shadcovert1160
@shadcovert1160 Жыл бұрын
Dude is hella good at calling me a total dork - Really really respectfully.
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
haha we are all dorks some of us just have nice shoes.
@BrandinoTheFilipino
@BrandinoTheFilipino Жыл бұрын
"i figure we don't bother anyone" reverse phycology on the man 😂😂
@jimwhit
@jimwhit Жыл бұрын
This hobby can't grow without new people
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
Really? 🤔 Whenever the masses start doing the hobby, it ruins it, everytime. It's one of the reasons we have remote ID now. The hobby was growing at a decent pace organically. Once they started making it easier for new people to get involved it all went downhill. So I disagree with that opinion.
@twp3029
@twp3029 Жыл бұрын
thanks bot. it was gud. 10/10
@eprohoda
@eprohoda Жыл бұрын
you sahred perfect , see ya!,)
@fishhead420
@fishhead420 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like we need a BOTGRINDER bind and fly freestyle drone....hint hint...you should, show them how it should be done!
@DroneMee
@DroneMee Жыл бұрын
I've been flying FPV for just a few months and got my first 5inch and went with a BNF because I was a little overwhelmed about setting up all the betaflight and receiver stuff. Bought a GEPRC MK 5 and it seems pretty legit. I fucked up and got Frsky so it has fail safed twice (once on a snowy rough that I had to gorilla rescue lol) Just got ELRS so learning that now. And the Kwad is completely undamaged so we will se how it does. BNF are a lot better now and for a first FPV drone I think they serve a purpose. Definitely will build my own from now on though.
@monkeyfpv7866
@monkeyfpv7866 Жыл бұрын
I heard you BOT... I ordered your new Demibot frame today along with the 3D prints from Brain3D. Cost me half as much again in postage but hey, that shit is worth it bro. Just got to order your motors now and sit and wait for the good times to arrive. Your the best, dude, keep up the good work...
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Eyyy monkey! Thank you bro!
@monkeyfpv7866
@monkeyfpv7866 Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER no worries bro. Trying to get the motors from TBS but it won’t let me complete my order because I’m in the UK and the stupid page keeps asking me for the zip and state so I can’t go any further. I put United Kingdom in there but it still keeps asking me for this shit. So frustrating dude.
@Fly_High_FPV
@Fly_High_FPV Жыл бұрын
Preach 🙌
@ChilkoNZ
@ChilkoNZ Жыл бұрын
I have this frame on my 5 inch as it fits a 30x30mm HDZero VTX in the rear. Love how it flies, but the arms are a definite weak point and I've broken a couple now. Will change frame soon
@AlvyFPV
@AlvyFPV Жыл бұрын
Havent broken anything on my demibot yet 👌👌
@paulclement3235
@paulclement3235 Жыл бұрын
hi Bot great video mon
@skycontrolproductions
@skycontrolproductions Жыл бұрын
@3:31 I was in a other room and I just heard "suck butt" lol 😆
@andreastornesel8404
@andreastornesel8404 Жыл бұрын
I have a bind and fly TanQ, so far it held up OK, it vill level the bando before breaking, do you think it's soft?
@Gazb_fpv
@Gazb_fpv Жыл бұрын
I have the foxeer aura 5 I use it more for cinematic cruising and open park/ tree freestyle, if I go bando bashing I take a rebel graffiti 5 which is a legit flying brick
@whereverimayroam74
@whereverimayroam74 Жыл бұрын
I bought a BnF GEPRC Mark 5. The build quality was questionable. There were chips in the wires that go from the vista to the FC. Those chips had been wrapped in bits of electrical tape from the factory (weird way to deal with that, just replace the wires before shipping it?). Also, I didn't have to strip my screws in the top plate because they came pre stripped. Now this thing flies like a beast. There is nothing it can't do but if I crash on a hard surface it's probably gonna snap an arm. Overall, haven't had a lot of drones but this is the best yet. Love it!
@Aerospaceinc53
@Aerospaceinc53 Жыл бұрын
Sick.
@PseuOG
@PseuOG Жыл бұрын
I had a wizard 220 from years ago. I was like 16 and I crashed it and didn’t have the funds to repair it so it sat in a closet. Recently I got back into FPV and I slowly replaced every single part as a matter of repair. Haven’t had to do much work since. The Eachine wizard is old though, and it seems like most bnf drones these days are equipped with good hardware and come pretuned. I imagine it would’ve been far easier to get into fpv now.
@PeugeotL-vd2le
@PeugeotL-vd2le Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree 2 years ago I bought a nazgul 5inch and it broke so much, I still have it (technically) but literally every part aside from the camera has been swapped to something else
@mrUrlolFPV
@mrUrlolFPV Жыл бұрын
i have an iflight nazgul5 v2 4s and i turned it to 6s didn't give me problems yet. but im only 8 months in fpv tho.
@fishbonez5670
@fishbonez5670 Жыл бұрын
Ill add I think BNF long range quads are good. Here is an example the Iflight Titan or even GEprc Crocodile. Yes it has the DJI Digital because I like digital. Anyway the titan and the croc have been reliable frames that can handle crashing into large boulders/mountain rocks and such. Its not hardcore freestyle but if you really want to "go and go" then these two quads and many others are worth a look. Just my 2 cents worth
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Oh 100% lr quads are exempt from my opinion in this video.
@austinspired
@austinspired Жыл бұрын
Looks to me like you need w.e that cam angle is on the demi. Smooooth even on dvr
@TheEviling
@TheEviling Жыл бұрын
For the specific purpose of flying bandos i do agree with you that the current BNF's outthere dont last long. However i think that might be intended, cause if they marketed them as being tough enough for that, they would get a lot of people RMA'ing them back. There are quite a few that are good for normal freestyle. The TransTEC beetle, Diatone Roma power Kit's and to some degree the Eachine Tyro's, those have all worked really well for me.
@whereverimayroam74
@whereverimayroam74 Жыл бұрын
My Transtec Beetle got swept up in an insane updraft and carried a few streets away. When I went to get it there was only a piece of broken prop and the battery. Someone had scooped my drone. Sad day. I liked the Beetle.
@TheEviling
@TheEviling Жыл бұрын
@@whereverimayroam74 Wind and Beetles dont play well, sad thats its gone, but you can still find new ones at the vendors :)
@fiveflatfpv
@fiveflatfpv Жыл бұрын
Haha. Comin' at JB... well deserved! But honesty frames are the cheapest part of a drone. I'm down to break one. Makes me try a new frame more often.
@lpayette1996
@lpayette1996 13 күн бұрын
@BOTGRINDER What’s your opinion on the Nazgul from iFlight? Isn’t that a proper freestyler?
@dirtfpv
@dirtfpv Жыл бұрын
Out of the 14 quads I have, half are BNF. Some are better than others. The best one I have is the T-Motor FT5. Literally one of my favorite quads next to my Armattan Marmotte (also BNF)
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
thats alot of quads
@dirtfpv
@dirtfpv Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER Many different sizes from mobula 6, to 7"
@MJ-bj1gn
@MJ-bj1gn Жыл бұрын
Funny how Botgrinder gives us links for a "shitty" freestyle quad. I have bought 3 Freestyle Quads and built 2 on my own and I never had a problem like "The receiver stopped working" or "the screws striped". I think it has to do with the very negative opinion Botgrinder has towards bnf's P.S. It's Delaware
@buddahblack5581
@buddahblack5581 Жыл бұрын
Is the spot your flying off of concord pike in Delaware ? .
@propcircles4082
@propcircles4082 Жыл бұрын
bnf's are fine dude i loved my nazgul lasted ages too
@ScottyRoddis
@ScottyRoddis Жыл бұрын
Having a durable frame also gives you the confidence to hit some spicy gaps without worrying about crashing and breaking your gear every pack.
@brianlangford7278
@brianlangford7278 Жыл бұрын
How about a real world comparison between yours and a source one, big difference in price? By the way I have both including OG bot 5 ,5s
@kaptkrunchfpv
@kaptkrunchfpv Жыл бұрын
Aint gonna lie, I fk love this channel! I think ive watched this video 5 times, just hear him say "Fuck DJI"
@brianlangford7278
@brianlangford7278 Жыл бұрын
Not all of us "bando",I live in the country near small town,zero to fly,its all woods trees n parks
@dronepilot260rc
@dronepilot260rc Жыл бұрын
Nice vid! And I had no interest in the Caddx walnut rip off camera lol 😂
@Brian-S
@Brian-S Жыл бұрын
I loved the dal cyclone props when I tried them they were super solid and not very flexy. Not as durable as the good ol hq props tho
@AdventureFPV
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
Man I have been having really good luck with my Walnut, Have you done the latest firmware update?
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
I know! I been seeing your videos 😆, yeah this is on the newest firmware. .
@AdventureFPV
@AdventureFPV Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER Hmm I have not tried the internal stabilization or auto settings yet. You know I overproduce my crap... Thanks for wathching.
@miket6669
@miket6669 Жыл бұрын
@botgrinder I know your sponsored by foxeer but you should have tried the iflight nazgul5 v2 bnf things way stronger looking then the foxeer
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
I dont think if iflight wants to send me one, I'll totally make a video on it if they do.
@xjet
@xjet Жыл бұрын
ZMR250 for the win!
@austinspired
@austinspired Жыл бұрын
Yeah I broke like an arm a week flying the jb qav s, it rips the most though. But weak.
@rc.remedy
@rc.remedy Жыл бұрын
Just wondering Bot, have you flown the Apex frame from ImpulseRC?
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
No i have been making and selling my own frames for like 4 years now? so i never had a chance to, i hear good things though!
@rc.remedy
@rc.remedy Жыл бұрын
Right just curious.. great frames. Been following your antics for 6-7yrs now I reckon!
@ampedandvolted
@ampedandvolted 4 ай бұрын
botgrinder, no fucks were given in the making of this video. excellent!
@adamvaughan123
@adamvaughan123 Жыл бұрын
Hey bot, i know you're not really into the whole technical side of fpv. But i have a question, I've been trying to set up my vtx in betaflight and it hasn't been working, i was like "...wtf" and decided to open up the drone and replug the USB... Turns out my vtx doesn't power up from usb. Is that normal?
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Your vtx has a usb port? ive never seen that before.
@adamvaughan123
@adamvaughan123 Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER I meant when I plug in the flight controller, the vtx doesn't power up. It turns out I needed a battery. I thought my vtx was dead even though the drones brand new
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
@@adamvaughan123 ohh ok haha, yeah the vtx power should be soldered onto you xt60 pads so usb wont power it.
@kalebklein5665
@kalebklein5665 Жыл бұрын
my roma f5 is legit man. been flying it for a few years
@DearlBarnes
@DearlBarnes Жыл бұрын
The I flight tune is off the chain. You gotta change that taste. I the nazgul is murderous... even though it's quite heavy. I mode it a bit. Maybe like a camera or vtx change or antenna change. But bnf are getting crazy good.
@Nastee_FPV_
@Nastee_FPV_ Жыл бұрын
Bro the fucking opening shot had me dead 🤣🤣
@ppoinha
@ppoinha 3 ай бұрын
hahahhaha the DJI comment is the best :-) you really have a thing for DJI 😛
@monkeyfpv7866
@monkeyfpv7866 Жыл бұрын
Bro, I have ordered your new demibot frame, 3D print kit but I can’t get your V4 motors anywhere. TBS have them but I can’t order them due to the stupid Zip/state on the delivery address section. We don’t have these in the UK. Help bro I really need a set of these motors. You rock dude.
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
There should be some uk vendors that sell them if not ask one of your local spot to place an order!
@monkeyfpv7866
@monkeyfpv7866 Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER I’ll give it a go bud. I did check quite a few but they don’t stock them. I found one that has the V2 and sent them an email. Hopefully I will get a response soon. Stay safe bro.
@MentalWhiplash
@MentalWhiplash Жыл бұрын
Energy all goes somewhere. I'd rather snap a $7 arm than trash the motor on the end of it...love your brutal honesty....too many "yes men" in this shiny-new-toy hobby. Keep bashin' that which needs to be bashed!
@eeeeweeezeee
@eeeeweeezeee Жыл бұрын
Pretty much my experience. I got a Diatone Roma. Crazy power, rock steady, flies amazing, but the frame is fragile. Whacked it on the ground, broke an arm. Ordered a bunch of replacement arms, they don't fit. The part numbers are correct, they just don't match! I'll probably transfer all the parts to a heavier frame.
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
Bro.... You bought the wrong arms. I have a Roma F5 too, and I love it. There are two arm versions. They might even have the same part number but one says HD and it's for the DJI frame. The ones that don't say HD are for the analog/vista frame. I bought four extra arms assuming I would break them and it's been a tank so I haven't needed them. Try to exchange them.
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV Жыл бұрын
Soooo yeah being completely honest 2 bnf got me started and in the air which was awesome. As those stand now everything on both has been replaced except for the stack lol. Definitely will need a better frame to start and do it right pay for a good one like bots. 💯
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
Some bnf's don't need to be modified. My Roma F5 for example. Not all bnf's are created equal and thus shouldn't be judged as a group.
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV Жыл бұрын
@@dangerous8333 Didn't say all bnf's just said my experience with ones I purchased. There is many great factors that go with a bnf and one is customer support. Mine had great customer support live chat with that on thankful. But now I have learned I will only build in future 💯
@TheVeganarchism
@TheVeganarchism Жыл бұрын
I would never fly if it wasn’t for BNF. As you said, not everyone has the time or necessity for the absolute best and most resilient. Imagine if everyone who wanted to drive a car had to build their own.
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
The world would be a much better place, we would have high speed rail and bike lanes. I'm about it.
@TheVeganarchism
@TheVeganarchism Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER I’d be walking everywhere 😂
@ThomasAndersonFPV
@ThomasAndersonFPV Жыл бұрын
Only but on the Demi bot, its a few buck cheaper if you select the parts individually. Make the whole drone cheaper or the spare parts more expensive. XD
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Haha trying to make replacements cheap.
@ThomasAndersonFPV
@ThomasAndersonFPV Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER $42.36 shipping And still have to pay import tax on it. Total of 160,14 smackeroos. It might as well come in golden condom-wrapped because USA drone purchases bend me right over XD. She better rips, i'll trust she does. but Anyhuwww on it's way to me!
@sparx-86
@sparx-86 Жыл бұрын
damn, i actually wanted to try that frame because i like light weight shit (i fly fpvcycle glides) , but that crash was weak AF.
@greedfox7842
@greedfox7842 8 ай бұрын
I want one of these frames, for long range mountain cruising this little boi would be pretty ideal. why don't more manufactures use colored carbon fiber like this frame? it looks pretty cool.
@haroldseaman4243
@haroldseaman4243 Жыл бұрын
Man will you make a BotGrinder hardcore freestyle bnf drone and end the dispute lol!!!
@aaron6516
@aaron6516 Жыл бұрын
Read my mind... need a good parts list for a demibot build... I fly with frsky transmitter since I never graduated since I don't know crap about building... time to take off the training wheels...
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
Heres my build all in one place! bit.ly/3gmIZRY
@Bipolar_Weasel
@Bipolar_Weasel Жыл бұрын
Some of us don't have office parks or bandos where we could fly. It seems a very metro-centric viewpoint. You make due with what you have. If that's bandos, great. If that's parks fine. If that's a country gravel road with wheat fields on either side and a lone, overgrown tree, you make due. As you said, Freestyle is Freestyle. I mean, Bardwell is a respected Freestyler and he mainly flies around his farm. We make due with what we got. Finally, not every session needs to be a full-send. Sometimes it is nice to just cruise.
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
all great points! but in this video im talking specifically about urban flying this one doesn't apply to a rural setting.
@Bipolar_Weasel
@Bipolar_Weasel Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER - Understood, it just wasn't clear in the video, hence my response. I'm a city flyer myself but we don't have any bandos to fly in since the old buildings are either deep inside the city and boarded up (and are along main roads where bored cops roam), or are torn down rather quickly and something else built in their place. Construction sites are almost always gated off with private security patrolling and people are always calling the cops the moment you try to fly there. Office Parks are extremely tiny or have private security always roaming around. We want to freestyle but we only really have parks to fly in, so even if we are in an urban setting we just have to use what we have.
@crank_FPV
@crank_FPV Жыл бұрын
Nazgûl is great lol idc I love flying them idgaf and u right got me in and dji is bc of it!
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 Жыл бұрын
I think I agree completely with what you say. Build em like a tank! Bnf's are not tanks
@dangerous8333
@dangerous8333 Жыл бұрын
Mine is. 🤷
@ChrisQuadFPV
@ChrisQuadFPV Жыл бұрын
I didn't think there was one .😲
@hookedfpv3219
@hookedfpv3219 Жыл бұрын
I’d put my nazgul5 up against any bnf freestyle drones when they say freestyle companies mean not racing just freestyle flying around but I’d put a iflight nazgul5 bnf up against any freestyle quad
@alexanderfpv6655
@alexanderfpv6655 Жыл бұрын
This guy might be telling the truth when he says he ate a sandwich off the ground. Love you Bot!
@joshmellon390
@joshmellon390 Жыл бұрын
I had my friend tattoo shit on my knuckles too lol. We did it in the front room of my trailer. Best way to get finger tats besides the joint lol. Mine look like crap, the "LL's" are fading, and they're my fucking favorite.
@MJ-bj1gn
@MJ-bj1gn Жыл бұрын
@BOTGRINDER Question: Could you not curse for 24 hours?
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