1. show stats of bruno putting up similar numbers to kdb and odegaard 2. conclude that united need to replace him with a kdb or an odegaard 3. ????? 4. profit

Odegaard has been an elite midfielder THIS season but emphasis is on this season. Bruno has been sufficiently consistent in his performance across multiple seasons. So, using Odegaard as a yardstick to criticize Bruno is a bit harsh in my opinion.

The problem with Bruno is that we have to play him every minute because we don't have a suitable backup. He's incredible at what he does, and his fitness levels are commendable. He has his flaws like all players, but that's why we have Casemiro. You can't have a midfield with all players maxing out all stats like a FIFA cheat mode. Eriksen, casemiro and Bruno are a more than capable midfield for the next 2 seasons, so long as united stock up with capable fresh young talent to come through, challenge them and eventually replace them

The low defending intensity doesn't really match the eye test. He is our most pressing player and is always running when out of possession

You don't need to build a team around bruno, look how easily he slotted in and hit the ground running when he was first bought, unlike other midfielders like pogba

Usually like tifo but disagreed with a lot of this. United aren't trying to build the team around Bruno, and the point seemed to be that he's similar statistically to kdb and odegaard, but we need to replace him with a player like them? I also think a lot of the stats particularly the pie chart doesn't line up with the eye test. Just my opinion as United fan

First Casemiro, now Bruno Fernandes. Jon really, really dislikes Man Utd's midfield... I'm looking forward to the next public apology.

The problem I’ve always had with Bruno Fernandes is he’s brilliant at football. Go again, Tifo.

I think the pressing weakness doesn't really track when you put it to the eye test. He does press well and pretty constantly. Also Ten Hag commented that when he puts Bruno on the right, it's because of his pressing intensity and ability. Otherwise, entertaining video though, not denying Bruno doesn't have his flaws because he does. Just don't feel like this is one of them

Comparing a deep lying ball progressing midfielder (de Jong) with a transitional number 10 is not a balanced ground for comparison, this is poor. Saying buying players that compliment a player that's already there is a problem is poor, every great team from years past had players with defined roles that where different from each other and complemented each other it does not mean you are building a team around anyone. Bruno is not in that team solely of his creativity but of his work ethic and leadership skills

I've seen enough of Bruno to know that he is easily good enough to adapt to whatever Ten Hag wants him to do.

hand picking. bruno isnt a problem. The reason we have Eriksen is cause he holds onto the ball. Sam reason he wanted DeJong cause of his progression

Not sure I see the connection between a number ten essentially and controlling the game. The six is usually the one dictating tempo whilst the ten creates

When all is said and done Bruno does so much for the team. 69 G+A in 108 PL appearances is a great return. Ozil is sat on 91 in 184 PL appearances, under 0.5 goal contributions per game. That shows the benchmark set for creative midfielders, and Bruno does infinitely more in defensive transition that Ozil ever did.

Think you've overstated this one. Having midfielders that complement Fernandes's strengths and weaknesses isnt really building a team around him so much as just building a team. Almost no player is literally flawless, i would argue none in fact, every player needs players around them that complements them, thats was a team sport is.

You can't talk about the eye test when talking about his lack of ball carrying [which he's ALWAYS had] but ignore it for press intensity. The man is one of our best pressers. And I think it's absolutely ridiculous to say Odegaard is as good as Bruno Fernandes never mind better after just one season of elite production.

First of all Frenkie and Bruno play different positions... Frenkie acts as a connector between defense and attack...

If Bruno is one of United's problems, then they must be absolutely amazing

This hammers home a question I've posed to Tifo before. Why does Bruno Fernandes not get credited enough like other similar "AM" like De Bruyne, etc. Bruno has consistently put up both G/As since (before) he joined United but most people just don't rate him at being at that "elite" level. He's not a dribbly-boi and he's not the one you build the team around. He's the one to make the final pass and that's dependent on if his strikers are in form. Yes, his consistency has dropped as he's been ever present for United and naturally fitness comes into play and he's also been playing out of position at times this season. Doesn't mean he's poor or not as good as some of the players you just compared him to. C'mon Tifo, Kevin is better. But not Odegaard.

He plays at least 60 games a season 3 games a week, If he doesn't pass out on the pitch that's good enough He's the best captain we've had since Rooney And his pace and dribbling is way better when he has the legs Fitness is the most important factor that isn't considered here

He playes so much basically every minute I don’t expect him to be in the form he was in he first few seasons. He’s consistent

Bruno is absolutely amazing

Usually agree with most analysis by Tifo. Goat channel. But I think you guys got this wrong. He is pivotal in terms of what united does and yes there are lot of things he does which frustrates us. But like you rightly mentioned, the pros and cons to his game, pros outweigh the cons. And I have enjoyed watching him this season more than any other, since he plays less Hollywood passes, and more realistic but yet creative ones. I think ETH will improve his game even more and we haven’t seen the ceiling or peak of his game.

The lack of a Bruno is one of the issues with this current Chelsea team.

Just because brunos pizza chart isn't a colourful as frenkie, doesn't mean he's not the better player. Bruno has by far been the more productive player and the main man in the team compared to frenkie in both of their careers

The thing with data and stats is that you need a co relation point, for example de jong and gravenberch carrying the ball, both play deeper than bruno and to be fair are better in terms of dribling, but the different positions so cant really compare that aspect, also not sure how the defensive pressure is calculated coz if any one who watches utd play every week will tell he covers every inch of the pitch defensively, his tackling and recoveries are also great, may be press from the front not being successfuly may be the factor, but utd dont really press with high intensity that much,

The pressing stats fooled you there. Bruno is the best presser in the team

Where is “the problem with Mason Mount” or “the problem with Mo Salah”… you know, the top 6 teams having awful seasons

You have to keep in mind he has play every 3.5 days with no obvious backup at moment so you has conserve his energy

Bruno's weakness in ball progression can be covered up by having a deeper central midfielder that can dictate tempo and carry the ball, like FDJ. Eriksen as creative as he is, isn't much of a carrier.

Bruno is absolutely amazing there's no problem with him.

Yep such a big problem, only the 103 goal contributions in 159 games for Manchester United, massive problem indeed.

Talk about nitpicking. The eye test clearly shows bruno is very important to how the team press and is always around whenever the ball is won in the final third and he tracks back a lot and his intensity is never a question. He isn't built physically like de bruyne so that can let him down but isn't a significant weakness as the video claims to be. Just because he doesn't excel at any stats doesn't mean he is an issue considering the pressing and defensive stats don't match the eye test and have lied this time around. Also odegaard has been amazing just this season before that he was fine so naive to use him as an example. Similar concerns like in the video were raised before the season started but bruno did fine and now he's even getting better. The stats are misleading and useless in specific areas. He has played the most minutes for united for an outfield player so that shows ten hag doesn't have a problem with him. If he did he would dropped him sometime but he has never done that and bruno always plays the full 90min whether united are winning or losing.

I think he is back in form again since the world cup.. but he still needs to control his passes.. sometimes instead of waiting for one or two seconds before picking the pass.. he goes for it the moment he gets the ball.. which gives away the ball too many times.. but when those passes work, they are absolute worldies..

There is no problem with Bruno Fernandes. He’s been integral to how United have improved this season. And his assists and goals tally since he arrived in England are indisputable.

yeah doesnt matter that he plays well works hard and the team is winning if it doesnt show up in statistics

this comment section "my feelings are more accurate than your statistics"

Surely covering Bruno's weaknesses with other players doesn't mean tailoring the midfield specifically FOR Bruno. De Jong in the Ajax midfield wasn't covering Schone's weaknesses, they just offered different things and worked in combination? Bring De Jong into this midfield does the same, you bring him in because he makes the team more rounded.

Wow what a provocative title! I'm so happy with the way Bruno has started to find his best form since Ronaldo is gone and Ten Haag has constructed a system. GGMU!

He said De Jong and Odegaard are better then B. Fernades 😂😂😂

Tito and Tifo IRL are proving that Man United are the biggest club in the country by miles. So much content on Man United because it gets the most engagement.

The point about the team ceiling being only so high as Bruno's ceiling is really poor. You're implying Bruno will limit United but for some reason aren't highlighting enough how, in terms of creative passing, only De Bruyne is better. Therefore, Bruno is world class. If United's ceiling is tied to Bruno's then they should be winning trophies very soon, because AS YOU SAID, the manager knows how to cover for weaknesses. He's also shown he's incredibly consistent, meaning he's reliable. He's a set piece taker, of all kinds. Reliable penalty taker. Captain to the team. Amazing chemistry and link up with players in the team like Rashford. He gels perfectly with the team. Ridiculous video designed to get clicks.

The problem with only looking at metrics: Bruno Fernandes brought a lot of fight to United. He brought belief and spirit. Something portuguese all garra... 'claw'!!

Man could not find concrete problems with Bruno.

This team is being built around Rashford. Even by the metric you used, Bruno is often on the left. Ten Hag prefers Luke Shaw and Martial in his starting lineup to connect with Rashford. So if you have Martial, Shaw and Bruno in the team, Rashford excels due to the relationships. It is also important to note the area we have the ball the most and the area we start our play, It is in the 6 with Eriksen/Casemiro in his absence. That is the position that is key to controlling games for United.

Such a non-issue issue

"Tesco's finest Ten Hag"😂

Definitely one of Tifo's more "hot takes" so to speak. 😂But that applies mainly to the conclusion arrived at and not the points leading upto it. (Though, im not sure how someone can rank 85th percentile for tackles+interceptions and yet rank mid 20s for defensive impact. He also leads most presses. DI Seems to be skewed towards blocks for some reason) He does make sense and it's something we all know is pretty true, Bruno isn't the best dribbler or the most technical creator, and he has a tendency to kinda play Fifa-style where it's all 2 touch pass chaos. And it does get little annoying sometimes coz of the sheer volume lol, but its a double edged sword and I'll take it for a 0.5 xNPxG + xA player. And yes he's a sore loser but he's also an elite example of gamesmanship, he wins these small mental battles throughout the match. And when everything clicks there's this main man aura about him where he just becomes a complete player in all departments. And he plays with a passion that would faze academy grads. You could say it doesn't really make sense for a very "traditional" Dutch manager to play with someone like that in the system. But ETH has shown that he has no rigidity about him and is very agile in his thoughts and an excellent man-manager. He play this semi-out of possession football and we can just switch to possession if we need to which is perfect for Bruno, Eriksen and Casimiro coz they've all played with teams that have been happy playing with less of the ball if need be (Spurs, Madrid) There's no real compromise being made here Bruno fits right in. And I'm sure ETH doesn't have any plans to switch to a fully possession based system with United it's just not something the fans would want to see. I feel like he's building a team where everyone feels like they are the center of the team, Luka Shaw is living a whole main character life at LB. I don't think Bruno is going anywhere for now he'll just adapt to whatever ETH wants him to do. And even if we do need to replace Eriksen due to age I don't see why Bruno would need to step down.

Having a midfielder whose better at passing and a midfielder whose better as carrying is normal, no? TIFO needed to do more work to show other teams aren't like this

A year on, I'm rewatching this and the problems haven't been addressed yet

AMAZING KNOWLEDGE TIFO. THE EYE TEST CONFIRMS THAT BRUNO IS NOT AN ELITE #10.

The era of Utd "building around a single player" is done. Tried it with Pogba and Ronaldo and all it's done is make the team too one dimensional, predictable and disrupts the team chemistry. Improving all positional areas through managing and coaching is now the new norm. We need players that understand ETHs philosophy in order to succeed from here on in.

Interesting, I'm not so sure about pressing, my issue when we had him and Pogba though was our inability to retain the ball cos they both frequently took risks meaning a lot of lost possession, hence a lot of defending which you don't want either doing. Eriksen has aided in solving the retention problem although he's still a defensive liability vs teams that keep the ball better. My current issue with Bruno is he's not that flexible tactically, he can't drop deeper to turn a 4231 to a 433 (giving cover) and he's significantly less effective out wide, he might work as a false 9 but generally I don't like the unwillingness to sub him off when he's not what we need in the moment even though I sort of understand it given the options we have. It's more a case of RELEVANT depth in midfield

The problem with him is his face every time a decision doesn't go his way. There, just saved you a video

Thought provoking video, which is what Tifo always deliver. Not sure I agree with a lot of this though - Bruno’s pressing can be erratic (similar to Alexis Sanchez - key catching in moments but lacks consistency) but on the whole he presses well. He’s not a ball carrying player, but he’s surrounded by them - the video doesn’t mention he has Sancho/Rashford/Garnacho/Martial/Anthony surrounding him. Valid point on whether he’s the player to build around, but taken from too narrow a focus

Even as a neutral, this was a poor analysis, the takeaway was especially lazy, saying a player like Odegaard is the type of player that Manchester United need to raise their ceiling when Bruno has been putting up impressive numbers during his entire Premier league career whilst generally only being outdone by De bruyne, who has always been playing in a much better and settled team compared to Bruno is unfair especially when you consider that Odegaard has only outdone Bruno this half season alone. Statistically this is considered a poor season by Bruno but he still ranks third in the premier league among other 10s. Your conclusion also makes no sense, its also worth considering if De bruyne and Odegaard would put up similar metrics as Bruno whilst playing under Ole & Ralf Rangnick and the teams they had as well. Look how they perform in their national teams compared to Bruno.

Bruno is a free player. To survive under Ten Hag he would need to accept a much more restricted role. That simply isn't in Bruno's nature.

There is a minimum receiving area point that required him to function properly I think that is his flaw too. So he always need a eriksen or a world class cdm like Casemiro that can do what Eriksen does to provide passes that slice through defences and to perform the defensive duties. Odegaard is absolutely disgustingly good so I think a comparison might be unfair. Bruno is a key contributor while Odegaard is a Game Changer.

I agree with this! His biggest weakness is pressing. He hasn't done it with the pressing system under the indicator by Ten Hag. He is just trying to run around to recover the ball. That's not a good press act that we can actually see the eye test. And sure, his controlling ball technique is so bad that makes him always use the risky pass or try to pass the ball quickly. In my opinion, the risky pass has never been high-risk, high-return. It just wastes the chance and gives the ball to his teammates so superficially.

Bruno certainly has deficiencies to his game, but his creative outputs for the team more than make up for them. The comparison with Odegaard in particular is unfair as the latter has only been outstanding this season. That said, I do think it would be wise to bring in an understudy for that No.10 position.

I think it is as much as factual but also seemingly under appreciative of bruno's role in that team. Bruno makes different things that ordegaard and KDB don't do just like they also do things he cannot do. I don't remember Scholes as an elite dribbles nor was pirlo nor xavi. I stand to be corrected on this if I am wrong. But we all cannot deny their ability to move the ball, find spaces, and unlock defenses. KDB has a great passing range and a wicked weep from that half space into the box and I don't think anyone can match that. Ozil also had his magnificent touch and vision and choice of pass that was unique to him, makefile had exceptional ball winning ability while busquets' ball control leading press resistance is so unique and great to watch. Point is, all these elite midfielders are masters in certain craft and not in another area. This didn't limit the ceiling of the team because of the lacking of a certain skill set! The reason as to why ten hag builds and believes in a squad is because he knows there isn't a jack of all trades who is perfect at all of them and hence different games need different ways to win them as it's shown again by ten hag having to adjust against certain opponents. I want to think he doesn't believe in the notion of building a team around a player but in building a squad able to compete. With this in mind, I don't see bruno as a problem but rather as an asset and a unique one at that. Him trying the crazy risky passes is just a craft he seems to be good at because his volumes of chances created is bewildering. If he is able to favorably compete in terms of assists yet they are coming from high risk, how about when man utd get to a point of having clearer chances, what would happen! I will sum up by saying, bruno is a great guy who gives the team creativity, workrate, he defends and presses quite well. His short fall in carrying the ball and dribbles is like an advantage where he more often releases the ball early enough to get the team on the front foot before the opponents get into proper defensive positions hence man utd being successful in Ole 's reign of counter attacks. Even with low blocks, his passing range and game reading is incredible as show with AWB assist in the burnley game. Bruno's weaknesses seem known to him hence moving on the ball quickly enough and I believe he compensates it very well. He is a great asset to have and not a problem now or in the foreseeable future for me.

I really don't understand why tifo dislike united.they're comparing bruno to KDB & Odegaard saying he has less quality, I can understand it with KDB because it's frickin KDB, but odegaard only had one ok season, and one great half season and they say he's a better player

There's so many bad takes in this video. Bruno is not a worse player than De Jong. Completely different, but the same calibre. Bruno is class, and I won't stand for this slander. Bruno is never a problem. Bruno is our leader and offensive backbone.

This video was just terrible. I'm now convinced Jon's anti-Man Utd bias is creeping into his work. The Casemiro comment the other day was ridiculous

I was enjoying the video until you said the team is being built around Bruno even though you said earlier he played a big part under several managers so I think its obvious thats not the case. Some of those stats are being calculated really under represent how hard working Bruno and the idea of the replacing with Bruno with De Bruyne or Odegaard level player to increase the ceiling when the stats you compared are for 1 season is a bit odd, they're all in or about the same.

This video is a prime example of blindly looking at data w/o looking at the big picture - UTD has played as a counterattacking side for what, at least 3 years straight now? Fernandes perfectly fits that system bc of his ability to make a quick incisive pass. There's no indication that he can or cannot play a different way bc he hasn't been asked to do it (ie., UTD don't try to play like City).

The title should be The problem with Jon McKenzie

ofc tifo comes out with a passive aggressive Bruno video and its presented by Mackenzie, ofc

As Utd fans, I will quickly admit that these are the two problems with Bruno: lack of physical presence in the middle, and lots of Hollywood passes, as in the case of the Leeds game. As such, he is highly effective in a counter-attacking team, but less so in a game that plays possession football. However, he is also our best player in the post-Fergie era. And who would be the realistic targets to replace him when our midfield was so bad by the end of last season?

I think the reason why he’s defensive stats have dropped slightly is because that has been less demand for him to perform in that manner because of entrances of the likes of Casemiro a world class defensive midfielder.

I argue against the point that Fernandez defines the ceiling if ManU builds the team around him. That would be saying that he would continue to be their very best player after transfers and there is no guarantee that he would be. Another way to say that, what if the ceiling of the other players defines the team, and Fernandez just add to that puzzle.

John clearly hates Casemiro and Bruno 😂

No idea how anyone could actually watch united with their eyes and conclude there's a problem with bruno fernandes this season lmao.. I normally like Tifo but this is just pseudo intellectual bullshit, spreading hot takes about a popular club with handpicked stats to support it for views.

When he said that he’s not elite in any department 💀😂

Making a video about one of Man United's best players being a problem - John woke up and chose violence today.

Two things stand out. First, the current season stats include a very bad match while C. Ronaldo was here. Bruno was half the player he usually is while Ronaldo was playing. Second, Bruno is more of a second striker/ creator type of player, something that ETH never had, so comparing him there with others from Ajax is wrong. Elite level managers adapt, they don't just try to replicate the same thing like in FM. Bruno does the exceptional very often in both scoring and creating and so any system will acomodate for that. Very poor from TIFO I'm afraid.

Bruno has been pressing of late. IDK who these numbers are calculated

The very fact that he thrived under different managers shows that the team is not built around him and its him that has adjusted to different play styles but yes when you put a title like that you get views no matter whether it makes sense or not so well done Tifo.

Our midfield when fit is one of the best in the league. I think he will improve as he's adjusting like everyone else to the tactics that are trying to be implemented.

Bruno is a moments player. He can annoy you for 80 minutes and conjure magic in a minute that defines the game. That alone is what all Manchester United is about. It’s not about comparing him to other club’s ball progressing players. Bruno is made for Manchester United and already a cult hero.

After his comments about Casemero Jon has gone after Bruno lol. I wonder which Manchester United player will be his next victim.

Tifo is Goated for this video..They basically said Bruno is holding Manchester United in a very polite way.and it’s true

Bruno is literally the only player close to de bruyne in terms of player profile.

Morgan Gibbs-White has outstanding numbers in a team that’s struggled for most of the season

This guy is obsessed with pizza charts rather than eye test.

I think the solution will be fairly simple. With Garnacho coming through on the left and with Rashford playing better from the left, with Antony on the right there is a clear lack of space for Jadon Sancho. A player who looks more suited to playing as a No.10 than wide in the EPL. EtH has even said recently about Sancho playing centrally as a No.10, EtH also likes versatility in his forward players to switch positions, something Sancho would thrive doing. So I don't think we have to look to hard for who will replace Bruno in the long term.

Thats why stats only compliments football you have to also actually watch the game to know ball

Really hoping you to add cristiano ronaldos’s jersey frame too, I know he isn’t at his best and so not play for an elite club but what he has given to our generation and football is priceless. I hope you agree.

And that is why Ten Hag wanted FDJ last summer. Yes Bruno has flaws in his game. And it is obvious to anyone that he can't carry the ball forward. But I don't know if it is necessarily true that in the future, the team has to be built around him. Eriksen also has similar weaknesses in his game to Bruno but also helps carry the creative burden when he is fit. Bruno's flaws are more exposed when he is the sole creative outlet in the team like he has been since Eriksen got injured, and defensively our issues are exacerbated by the enforced absence of Casemiro. What is more of a pressing need for United is to find someone who can perform what Eriksen does but with additional attributes like carrying the ball forward and offer more defensively than what Eriksen does. That way we don't always need to rely on just Bruno to be the sole creative outlet. As for the market for attacking midfielders, regardless of our finances, there really aren't many players available who could do what Bruno does but better. Perhaps someone like Wirtz could do that eventually, if we can beat out Bayern for his signature.

Had the opportunity to watch United warm up before THAT chelsea game this season. He was by far and away the best finisher, don’t forget ronaldo was in that warm up. EVERYTHING was top binz - if he can bring that onto pitch he’ll be world class.

Make a video on importance of having left footed player in team

Stats tell us a lot but so does watching a player throughout a season, the former is a lot easier for a video though.

I think Bruno is simply overplayed, there is no single player who could fill in for him and don't forget this is Ten Hag's first season. Arteta molded that Arsenal side slowly over time, which made Odegaard more productive in it. Previous to this season he wasn't near Bruno's numbers. There's no need to replace him, just get someone else who could play that role, because he would end up injured at some point.

It could be a tryout season. Just to see if a bruno project works and if it does im sure they bring the right person for the job.

I can't believe this guy compared odergard with Bruno. The hate these people have for united players is insane

"isn't good enough". yet, he was putting in 40-50+ goal contributions a season and leading chance creation metrics.

I remember our attacking midfielders post bruno playing safer than our backline.Attackers have to take risks and aventually lose some balls

Good one. This analysis assumes United are aspiring for Prem titles & UCLs. I believe Bruno will raise his game for 1-2 years to challenge. Eriksen & Casemiro are also going to gas out by 2025. Utd will need to build a pipeline of highly talented 3-4 young mids and bring in a world class box to box player to help in this transition whilst maintaining title challenges in PL & UCL

Really only the first full year of Bruno at Utd we’re actually world class then dipped since then - still a great player but his impact has been declining as Utd move beyond him

You mussed the mark with this one Tifo.