The strategy in this strategy rpg isn't in the battles, its in figuring out how to grind better.

The "problem" with Disgaea is only a problem if you make it one. I'm far from a casual player, have put hundreds of hours into each game, and have never aimed to beat Baal, or get to level 9999 (only did it once, in DD2, because it was fun and easy to do so!). I usually burn out long before that, but after hours and hours of satfisfying character development, item acquisition and customization/improvement (I spend most of my time in the Item World from the very first game), and setting up attack strategies I love watching set off. For any new people thinking of trying Disgaea - this review is misleading. Getting to Baal is completely optional, and part of the POST game. There is no rule saying you need to max your characters out and get to Baal at all to complete the game. Just enjoy playing however you like! There is no wrong way to play Disgaea. :)

The grind is why I keep coming back to this series. I'm glad that 6 will take it up a notch

This is an interesting perspective on the series, but I do have one issue. The grind can absolutely trivialize the puzzle aspects of the earlier games. My friend bought Disgaea 2 on PC a few months ago, and the first thing he did when he saw Etna in chapter 5 having a Testament was grind until he stole it, by making a dozen thieves and just spamming 1% steal rates. And no, no one told him to do this, he looked at no guides. It was just his instinct as someone that had played Disgaea 1. Now, that item alone can trivialize any of the game's early maps, make power farming the item world a breeze, but he took it a step further. He then went into the Testament and STOLE RANK 39 ITEMS. By chapter 6, his team was decked out in Infernal Armors, Longinuses, and Excaliburs. A few hours later, and his core team was over level 1000. At that point, there weren't any puzzles the game could throw at him that he couldn't just bumble through by being a sheer stat wall. The numbers are always the highlight of the series. In fact, I find it more enjoyable to figure out how to BREAK the game as early as possible. There's nothing more satisfying than walking up to the final boss a thousand plus levels higher than him, with equipment that makes his look like a toy spider ring.

My main disagreement is that you didn't describe a problem. The grind of disgaea and the high caps are exactly what makes it so great.

I went throught the campaigns without grinding, its completely uneccessary to beat the main campaign and enjoy the game.

Imagine advertizing a postgame boss as the main objective of the game. It's like saying that Ff9's goal is to beat Ozma or Tactics Ogre's true aim is to defeat Lans in the CODA using just Denam, Vyce and Catiua... It's wrong. Disgaea 1's main goal is to stop Vulcanus, Disgaea 2 is about stopping Zenon, Disgaea 5 is about beating Void Dark, Baal is just an optional fight.

I can safely say I love the disgaea series but I've never gotten anyone to level 9,999 or fully explored understood all the mechanics in a single game in the series lol

This was a well thought out video. I feel that D6 might be easier on time management, but as you said the first run (Story mode) is more about tactics and the second run (post game) is about POWER! This itself isn't a problem as you seek the power you had to learn tactics. You peer into the abyss and don't flinch. There's a reason why Baal got upgraded after 3 and those who seek to go further can.

I always kind of saw Disgaea as answering a lot of FF Tactics' problems, including the ones with post-game content and grind. In FFT, end-game content was finite and getting max stats was super convoluted. In Disgaea, the post-game dungeon is infinite as are the item farming and the stat grinding actually makes sense and has systems in place to aid you. But again, all of this shit was _optional_ . There's tons of fun to be had in FFT without ever touching Deep Dungeon. Same with Disgaea and item world. I'd argue Disgaea's biggest problem is throwing so much content at the player that there's no real mechanical focus to your team comps and it runs the risk of allowing any bland "strategy" to work. I want to _need_ my generic units, dammit.

Rozalin is my favorite dood But don't tell master Etna 😏

Thank you so much for this video. There's not enough ppl talking about Disgaea or NIS stuff on KZfaq imo.

the grind in disgaea is more engaging than other games tbh. Theres no dumb quest. No exploration, just grinding. The story is also pretty fun. All i gotta say really, if you lost love for it then no harm. Wish the series would evolve a bit more because i didn’t like 5 too much

Disgaea puts the RPG in sRPG. The progression in this game is something else

Please don’t ask for the game to be dumbed down or the many ways to progress to be simplified or streamlined There are many tactical RPGs that are more streamlined and have fewer and less interlinked systems. If Disgaea is. “Problem” for you, you might want to play something else. Many love Disgaea for exactly the things you find problematic.

I still really enjoy Disgaea as an SRPG, when doing the story without any excessive grinding. It's fun to optimize combos, especially in games before Disgaea 5. where the target has to be the same to increase damage.

Me looking at Disgaea 6 and its level 99999999: eehhhmmmm...

Zettai Hero Project, which is basically Disgaea mixed with a roguelike, is being rereleased in NIS Classics: Volume 2 and I recommend everyone play it if you have any interest in either of those things. It’s one of my favorite games of all-time and it deserves so much more recognition than its ever received. .

Disgaea is the only series that you can never be too strong. Other rpgs you break the game. In disgaea you end up being the appropriate amount of strength. If it's too easy then turn up the cheat shop and try again.

Disgaea games are all a giant puzzle, the further you get the more pieces are handed to you. The fun lies in that every piece is another puzzle, and it goes so far you can keep searching for bigger, better solutions. Disgaea's appeal is just that, it's, by design, almost infinitely complex. I may not have the time to create my squad of Baal killers, but I can say for certain figuring out solutions to shorten the grind and using the different systems is entertaining as hell!

I love Disgaea and sometimes I think about going back to the classics. Then I remember the UI. God, it's abysmal

Disgaea is like comfort food for me but I have more nostalgia for the first when there we're so many leveling systems piled on top of eachother. The battle between demons, Angels and humans is still the most enjoyable narrative.

6:50 Ahhh... You and I play the game very differently then. Or, at least, see it very differently. I see Disgaea as a series of steps, each one interesting in it's own right. I don't care what the final destination is; I know I'll get there eventually. I care about what I can do right now. Or, what I'll be able to do shortly.

Hi ! very cool video ! Just watched this morning on of the latest video on disgaea 6 , they seems to add functons to help grinding like 8x speed autobattle with IA customisation ! So infinite AFK grind ahead , oh god .....

There is only 1 problem with Disgaea, and it's called Disgaea RPG.

This is a pretty good video keep it up man

I completely agree with the video. However the Mindless Grind is the drug that I play these games for. I don't know why but I'm one of those Gamers that just like to shut my brain off for hours, put on a Podcast and Zone out while getting my Stats up. I've been playing Disgaea since the First 1, and this series just scratches that itch in so many ways. Not to mention the amazing Character designs, awesome Music, hillarious Story and Writing and the over the top Anime Specials, and everything else just makes My Goblin Gamer brain go Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Disgaea 6 Is going to be epic, Seriously when everyone else freaked out about Monster hunter, D6 was the Game that probably got me many noise complaints from my Neighbors. I never squealed so much for a game reveal since Kingdom Hearts 3 (Which I enjoy greatly, the DLC fixed any issues I had with it.) Hope to see you in the Trenches Mate, also Great video, Editing is a bit rough, but I see great Potential, Maybe punch up the Pacing a bit next time, but not too much because of your Monotone Delivery wouldn't fit, but interested on seeing more from you!

I was gearing up to argue 😂😂😂 You had us in the first half.

I like your video's style. Subbed, sir

I don't see it as a problem at all. It just means the game is designed for power seekers. It's basically how I play every game anyways, so this game series is just fantastic to me. Other games they'll do things like boost 1 quest for a week, and then I play that quest 24/7 for that week and find it incredibly boring. Disgaea is great since the whole game is based around power seeking so that you can still use a lot more parts of the game in your power seeking quest. I don't find it boring at all.

You make good points, but I think it is a matter of taste. I enjoy the series, but I hate grinding and tend to do what I can at minimum level to eek out as much challenge as I can. Defeating enemies with triple my stats is cathartic and rewarding, but I understand the appeal of a power fantasy. Rarely do I actually defeat Baal in these games as the grind becomes rather unreal, though I forced myself to sit down and 100% La Pucelle. The post game grind just isn't for me.

it's for people that love the grind it's all about grinding to be the very best

I don't think that this is a bad vid but i do think that the main focused is on disgaea 5 not any Disgaea a few thing i think isn't fact , it is opinion or isn't clear

This is pretty much my exact feelings on the franchise. I got into the series with DS1(PC) after being enchanted with the art style for years but never owning a Playstation console to play them. I grinded DS1 but never really attempted the post-game. I got DS3, 4 and D2 when I got a used PS3 and though I attempted feebly to go further with DS4 I did only a portion of the post game before becoming numb to it. I wanted DS5 to be the game which I did the entire post game. I never managed to defeat Baal because I got completly sick of the grind to the point where playing the game was an active chore. I think you hit the nail on the head when you mention how the journey becomes meaningless. After nearly 400 hours of game time to try and reach a mythical end boss I was not only incredibly bored but the characters, the main selling point had been reduced to 0's and 1's. The game gives you the ability to level all stats to max and even move powerful abilites to other characters so characters just lose their unique appeal over time. It's funny. The thing that sticks in my mind about DS5 is actually a moment in the game where the lead character succumbs to his 'darker' impulses. You actually get to control this moment and it's enthralling and terrifying mowing down enemies in seconds that would take minutes with your normal stats. As you mention the series has embraced it's number niche and it's unlikely to drop that. I just don't think grind for the sake of grind is fun. I think, like me, a lot of people love the bombastic characters, bizaare worlds and sillyness. I honestly think the grind could be scaled down, bloated game size could be reduced and it would benefit the game franchise. I still have a certain fondness for Disgaea but I get more joy looking through the artbooks for the series than playing the games because despite huge graphical increases since the Ps2 the art for the series is a better representation of it's soul.

Disgaea 6 might just be the best introductory game to the series. They've found a way to increase the numbers AND reduce the grind to get your numbers that high. It's very welcoming to have that Lv.9999 and reincarnate system be a part of the story and not a part of "What do I do now that the story is over, and I have a spare 2000 hours of free time?" For people who want something to do after the story is over, well, that's where the new Lv. 99'999'999 limit comes into play, although I wish they had made that clear in their advertising rather than letting it be implied that you can just get to Lv. 99'999'999 like it's something you can expect to do in the main campiagn On top of that, getting their audience to learn a bit of programming as another option to get those numbers up high. Big fan of sneaking educational content into a game as a JRPG mechanic.

I'm about 6 minutes into the video and I'm still not seeing how this is a bad thing.

Love the grind! 😍 I play ds version on my 3ds.

I have never seen someone miss the point of an entire series so hard. (Except NIS with Disgaea 6, which goes to show that your assertion as to the point of these games misses the mark quite hard) 1) Baal is not advertised as the final boss of any of these games. Disgaea 1 has Vulcanus and Lamington, Disgaea 2 has Overlord Zenon(fake), Disgaea 3 has Super Hero Aurum, Disgaea 4 has Judge Nemo, Disgaea D2 has Xenolith, Disgaea 5 has Void Dark and Disgaea 6 has... well I have too much self respect to play Disgea 6 long enough to complete the story, but I think its your pet dog? Each of these goals when you play them straight out can take the entire run-time of the average $60 release, and is where almost all of each respective game's narrative occurs. 2) As Disgaea 6's inflated starting stats prove, having bigger numbers alone isn't the goal of the series. The goal is the slow, 9,000,000 step journey from a lv.1 character who will struggle to break into the triple digits to a universe destroying god dealing billions if not trillions of damage depending on the game. There is a reason people are celebrating what seems to be a return to lower starting numbers, because the lower you start the more satisfying each step of our journey becomes. 3) The endgoal isn't Baal, while Baal(or usually Prinny Baal or some other reincarnated variant) may be the final Superboss, the actual goal isn't Baal, the goal is to grind and to find ways to grind faster and smarter. Getting to 9999 seems like a meaningless accomplishment when you compare it to Baal's multi-million point start advantage, but when you get your first character to 9999 and view the journey and planning you used to get there it is undeniably an achievement. 4) The strategy that goes into Disgaea by large isn't actually the strategies employed during battle(though if you choose to limit your grinding when playing the story it very well can be) but the strategies you choose to employ in order to strengthen your characters. For example in Disgaea 5 they made it so that when you heal a character you gain exp based on the levels of the characters you heal, so in Disgea 5 my first characters to hit lv.9999 were those with access to healing spells whom I would group up in the poison of poisondise and have them rotate casting AoE spells to heal the entire group back up to max hp each turn because it provided much faster exp gains than anything else I had unlocked. Then when I unlocked the actual grinding maps I discovered that the lv.9999 units I already possessed could be used to expedite the raising of other units via Magichange applying an effective use for my lv.9999 units even if their stats didn't even begin to compare with Baal's. So the long and short of it is that these issues aren't actually issues if you understand the core appeal of the series as games that can be played almost infinitely with the goal being the journey from taking potentially hundreds of hours to max a single character to using all of the tricks you discovered and unlocked along the way to max out later characters in under an hour. If the game was about hitting for big numbers and toppling superbosses with mind-numbingly huge stats then Disgaea 6 would have been a smash hit among the fanbase instead of being derided as the worst product in the series.

I don't like one thing about this... you're not treating it as military strategy but rather biased strategy. Military Strategy involves using tactics which range from positioning, deception, to even raw power to solve problems while anticipating what your enemy will do. Raw power is a viable strategy but to get it is still complex. Not only must you be sufficiently stronger, but you must have a large enough gap for this to be viable. To fight Baal, in D5, you must be able to survive 4 free attacks as you deploy. This is the minimal requirements to use characters on the map... but if I recall he does SP damage as well so you must be able to either raise your HP/SP to negate this loss, or bring tools to fix this in terms of spells or items. This is all strategy... but what is a better one to use? It is case by case, real strategy. If I see a map filled with complex tiles... the goal is not static. I can remove them, or attempt to overpower them. In the story maps you praise the earlier entries for... a smart thing was to use a Mage, destroy them from across the map, and then win the fight. Rather then waste a bunch of time try to solve the rotational gravity of a sparrow over the moon under the west wind of... well you get the point. It isn't Disgaea is flawed in how it handles it, rather how society handles those concepts. I mean heck, even the first Disgaea game literally has you go to war with the humans or fight over the crown, the second is also similarly going to war against a corrupt ruler. The fourth is also a war simulator... and the fifth is blunt about it. A strategy RPG is a war game. ...just like Final Fantasy Tactics was or how every Fire Emblem seems to focus on war.

It's both sad, and nostalgic to think ill never have the time and imagination I once did as a kid

A good example of his opening statement is Goku used to be my favorite DBZ character and now I actually genuinely hate him and my new favorite is Piccolo. Perspective does indeed change as we grow.

First time play disgaea when i was a teen. back then i tough this game was lame and hard.. but now adult me now understand how satisfying the system and post game can deliver to you

I like how you explain the game, I suggest adding close caption, so I could clearly understand you and can simply watch the vid while I am working. :P

So... You are correct but for me I'm so excited. I played disgaea 1 to it's fullest. However, THANKFULLY, I did not go so hardcore into 4/5, though I played them greatly. This paves the way ever so brighter for the 3d and mega leveling aspects to 6 that have me super hyped to --hopefully-- tear into it's entire being, like I did with the original.

Thanks for this video! Glad KZfaq recommended it to me, but this video really encapsulates something I and my friend have been butting up against for the last several years. He got me into Disgaea but as time went on we kept feeling more and more disenfranchised and I think this numbers thing is part of why we liked it as teens, since we had so much time, but also why it's hard to love it as adults, even the mechanics of things like the writing and characters aside. Cheers, I look forward to more.

They way I describe these games is that there are 3 walls, 1st wall is getting to lv 200, 2nd wall is getting to lv 1k, 3rd wall is leveling gear

The thing is JRPGs where never really meant to be "hard" because they always have a way to "kill easy things to get stronger" turn based JRPGs fall into this more than others but you can even see it in things like dark souls. people can one shot most bosses in those games with the right build. I play disgaea for the fun story and as a collection game. it's a bit mindless but just endlessly going through the idea world to steal items you havent gotten yet is just enjoyable and relaxing to me. I have truly 100% 2 disgaea games already and planning to do another one soon.

Great job not giving spoilers!

Disgaea is like a cross between a tactics rpg and an idle clicker. Get big numbers so you can do harder content to get bigger numbers. Less engaging than a straight trpg, less mindless than an idle game, and more tedious than both. But for some reason, still appealing

watching this after playing disgaea 7, the franchise is still doing well for itself, always adding a bit more to the table everytime the nostalgia will always be there but I do enjoy the newest installment a lot

The only issue I find with Disgaea is they changed how they make the games after Disgaea 5. They changed the animations and sprites.

You are absolutely underrated my good sir

Every few months I come back to watch this vid, it's so well made Edit: I'm back again

Ummm but disgaea 4 didn't have any of these things? It only takes 100 hours to max everything and also if you know everything about the previous games going in blind isn't hard

"It's kinda like Dark Souls but instead of Lore it's spreadsheets" omfg so true

The next installment apparently implements autobatteling so it grinds itself. You can even "program" the AI kinda similar to carnage hearts flow chart model so it performs better.

I think the problem here is seeing Baal and level 9999 as must-do's, rather than a tangible reason to push all the numbers to their limits and take full advantage of the game's systems.

You got me with that "You sunuvabitch, I'm in" bit.

I love the “Disgaea” series, but I neither have the time nor the discipline to do all of that to beat Ba’al. More power to those that do, I just don’t have the drive for that.

I was obsessed with this franchise after I picked up the DS version of the first game back when I was a teenager. Spending all summer grinding the hell out of that game til I had nothing left of it. I eventually found the 2nd game on the psp and did the same with it and loved it. Now that I'm an adult with a family and a work life to keep up with, I just can't put in what I need to, to enjoy the series anymore and it's a shame because I miss being so enthralled by these games.

I do think NIS could get a lot of mileage out of putting a few constraints on the geo panel rng such that item world floors generated better geo puzzles so chaining geo effects could become a viable item world grinding stat instead of just putting a bunch of shoes on a moth.

Good video doood. Subbed and belled. You are from the Midlands?! Me toooo!

Its not a problem in the game. Your mind is the issue, to yourself.

Loved the video! You put into words what I've been feeling but couldn't describe. Do you also maybe feel that the latter games started going maybe a little too goofy and comedic? I liked that part of the series but just feel it got out of hand.

resumen del video : no hay estrategia a la larga. todo lo que importa es levelear cientos de horas para vencer de un golpe al malo final. estoy viejo y ya me da flojera seguir con esto. - gracias

I know this is an unpopular opinion amongst other Disgaea fans but I always thought it would be really cool to add fighting game inputs or mini games with the Skills to either get the maximum damage or combos out of them.

When someone says "The problem with Disgaea..." - *he* is the problem.

Must say that the games are a really enjoyable experience even without post game or barely any of it, speaking from my experience in D1. In D2 i came back after 4 years really missing in it. I had stuck to a plethora of gacha games, FEH, FGO, Genshin, Arknights, GBF, AL...but always felt like they all were missing personality, personalization, freedom. I came back immediately researching how to explore every single cranny of content D2 had to offer. DLC, secret characters, extra stages. How to add some "HD" sprites to it. The actual post game. The grind really is nothing compared to your average gacha game really, many times i felt what you said about leveling not mattering from the perspective i was too strong for higher level opponents always with unleveled gear or no gear at all. Ive been delaying me beating the game completely by starting new characters, because i can't stop having fun making more characters viable to wherever point in the game im in. This game really is for me even more now than before i went to gacha hell.

Really great vid mate, I feel like a lot of game series hyper focused on gameplay like Devil May Cry and Fighting Games will always have to deal with these similar issues.

"Level Ninety nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety nine? You son of a bitch. I'm in." Funny, but...its 99 MILLION.

the problem isnt looking up info off the net,its from NIS not releasing anymore solid strategy guide books as they did for Disgaea1,2 and soul namad.their still continuing the guilds in japan

Yeah those moments happen Dood

im so hyped for d6, its been too long, but as long as it good it will be worth the wait.

Here we go yo

I think the real way disgaea shines as a strategy game, is actually when you try to complete the challenges without achieving those big numbers and max stats. As a rule I’ve set for myself, I try to finish the main story with the hellish 20 difficulty on from the earliest point I can clear every map at said difficulty. I feel it helps approach the elements of the grind with a more agreeable difficulty curve. Especially if you carefully utilize the item world to do so. Making everything in the game a more considerable challenge, so that the experience is more rewarding out the gate.

As a adult, I definitely just don’t have the time to fully commit to Disgaea’s post game section. I do play through the base story though. So like, maybe 5% of the needed investment to beat the post game. Currently playing the first one. About half way through the main story but I highly doubt I have the gumption to chase after the goal of beating Baal.

I wish Disgaea 6 had a lot more classes. I hope they add more characters.

The first game I have over 1000hrs on and still never reached lv 9999...that’s gotta say something. I love the series but even the characters seem more one dimensional to me in the more current titles. I am still going to buy disgaea 6 but it’s kinda sad.

It's a niche game, what make it bad for most, it's what make it fun for others. The thing is, d6 tried to bring the auto-battle and it kinda sucks for most of the fans.

Thomas Ife Carnage Eclair Method? I tried to investigate, but couldn't find anything. I personally don't think Disgaea needs more numbers. However, please tell me about the eclair! Thanks dood.

I think the problem is that people are trying to find a problem with disgaea, its literally a game that is self aware that its a game, characters that ridiculous amounts of damage, crazy levels, and just overall fun with nice visual not to mention the ocassional references the games make

I'm a hardcore Disgaea fan and I have to agree with both of your points: Indeed, Disgaea lacks comprehensive knowledge available, and also it suddenly forgot puzzles. I disagree however in the part of this not having a solution, as it seems simple as to just make more knowledge available and put more emphasis on puzzles. P.S. 1: Lol the carnage eclair strategy is now outdated and replaced by the mushroom soup one. P.S. 2: That's the ugliest Sera I've ever seen. Good video, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I love this series. But i miss phantom brave it may have been a spinoff but it still was a game i enjoyed alot. It was for all intestines Purpose my disegea 3. Saber kitty for life lol

To be frank, no other sRPG I played (besides maybe The Battle for Wesnoth, if you consider it one) was as tactically satisfiable and challenging (not necesserily hard, but requiring critical thinking and out of the box strats) as Disgaea 5. If you say that at some point of the late game big numbers outshine any semblence of strategy, then yes, I would agree. But if you say that no part of Disgaea provides challenging sRPG gameplay, then I would not agree.

This franchise is now on mobile and its perfect

Disgaea 1 doesn't really have this problem Playing normally is enough to find golem farm and unlock most classes And golem farm (and thief hand) is enough to beat Baal and his prinny version

My thing is the final ultimate challenge and it's reward for completing it, is nothing. Being able to stop playing the game? So i'll agree to the 'why it can't be fixed' because what could be included or offered after conquering the games final true challenge that would be satisfying? I can't think of almost any 100% completion bonuses/rewards I believe are truely worth it. So determining one for Disgaea ... I'm at a loss. Unlock playable Baal - Idc , Unlock a superduper item world - Idc , Unlock some cameo/guest character - Idc, Unlock the entire Disgaea 1 Anime remastered - Idc. So there lies my problem as someone whose beaten Baal and Prinny Baal etc in many of the games. It leaves me feeling empty and hollow not rewarded, triumphant or fulfilled. I do find enjoyment making my characters powerful and having a goal to reach. Just that when the dust settles and I've reached that... Well I already said it.

i came to this vid right after watching the new ffeature vid for 6, seeing that they are adding an auto-battle system that you can program the way you want made me really excited because that's going to be both interesting and also save a lot of the physical pain having to manually grind. i dont even care that much about the time save that comes from it because i have gotten so fast at grinding these games that i wonder how much time it will even save lol. anyway good video i agree with your opinions and personally if you ask me the endgame wouldn't be as boring if you at least had some story to go along with it instead of just spending 100 hours playing chara world and killing item god after item god. it would take a ton of work for them but it'd be awesome if they had like a substory for each character class that progressess as they get stronger, also if they did this there wouldn't need to be that many classes because there's classes that dont really end up mattering a whole lot in each game as they just get outclassed by something else.

Oh you must love the auto battle/auto retry system in 6 due to all the time they save, honestly I got to beat Baal (regular one) in two months from starting the game and am now grinding to beat him at 20 star.

I was playing disgaea 6 for 130 hours and the truth is, I can't take it anymore. I started a game again in disgaea 5, The characters, the story, (some mechanics as well) of disgaea 5 are superior in every way. and the grinding is not so bad.I personally enjoy a lot more disgaea 5 than disgaea 6. In my humble opinion i don't wanna huge numbers, i just want a quality game.

I love the Disgaea games and enjoy the grinding. The one thing I wish they would do is allow monster units to lift and throw. I mean, most of them have arms FFS! I wouldn't miss the Dark Assembly either.

I always find it difficult to criticize the things i like more than just giving little minor complaints (Like Blue Dragon on Xbox 360 lagging a little too often during fights) but the fact that you made an entire video basically criticizing the series at it's core and yet still say that its something you enjoy and look forward to playing and seeing in the future boggles my mind because it's not something I'm used to as I've never been able to do that. Criticizing a series you like confuses me, but i respect it.

6:11 do you have a character named Homer?

Maybe I'm weird but I've put 400-500+ hours in all the games from 1-5 and really enjoy all of them I've platinumed all of them too and still play 1 and 5 to this day (both are on PS4 otherwise I'd still play 2 as well and my brother is borrowing 4 and D2) anyway I've yet to get bored with any of them can't tell if it just hits all the right spots for me but to each their own I guess

I'd say the problem is the lack of post game natural grinding. Instead of that stupid nonsense of expend thousand of hours on item world or in certain areas where you can exp fast and reincarnate you should grind a bit just enough to unlock the next place that will be better to grind and then you become strong enough to unlock the next place that will be even better for it.

DIsgaea 7 went back to four-digit levels because 1 billion -1 was a bit too much for the PS4 to handle. XD

Man, I remember watching this back when it first got uploaded. To be perfectly honest, I thought it was full of nonsense, using the generalized extremes to misrepresent the experience of an average player, and misunderstood why people liked the series in the first place. Kind of funny to think that since then, "Disgaea 6" released and ended up trying a bunch of changes that were more or less what was wanted in this video...only to be considered one of the worst entries and potentially almost killed off the series. Just goes to show I guess.

Honestly, there's a lot of stuff like this in a game I play called "ReBless Zwei"... Only that's a gacha game... So while everything on it can be done for free, you still get more progress MUCH faster if you spend. If Disgaea's big numbers and repetitiveness gets to you, then ReBless Zwei is likely WORSE considering your grind per day is limited, more so if you don't spend. Just for a comparison, it was mentioned that the inflated numbers don't feel like they matter much. That would be the same case for ReBless Zwei since you'll start with a meager 1k-10k Combat Power with maybe HP in the thousands, then later on you can spike CP into the BILLIONS and have numbers looking like Disgaea's endgame. The character levels are lower sure, but there's MANY ways to spike stats like atk and HP in that game. I think these games are more suited to people like me who actually LIKE seeing the huge numbers and don't mind the climb to get there. But there definitely are people who actually see the huge numbers or get into the grind and think "this isn't for me".

Disgaea suffers from the same power curve as stuff like modded MC. If you are playing be the most efficient time to Baal that is fine, if you are dipping your toes in the numbers to push the story along that's fine too. But there is a middle ground playstyle where you are kind of going for OP but not completely invested. That's like you said, that 9999 isn't that great. You can get it easily with the item trick. It is bad not because of the lack of significance but because you do not have a use for that power. If there was more mechanics to pad it all the way it would be fine, even if it is still just as grind. It is simple a problem of the sunken middle or 0->100. You either have a workable tolerable grind/automation or you don't. In other words Disgaea is a good foundation to a non-existent game - where you have to put your numbers against large issues. Like maybe having a city sim in the pocket dimension properly would do it. Scale has to exist materially as scale, it can't just be flat digit. Vector > scalar, otherwise then it is just a mathematics game, that's why that added autobattle in D6, that is basically the game devs giving up unfortunately. Just the same with having 1000 double chests of diamonds in MC, the grind is fun but really it is missing the chemical x to light up the real game. The main reason it hasn't been done is because it is hard to program a stable dynamic system, not because of hardware limitation. Anyway, I should get back to programming so I can show not tell hehe.

auto-play has changed the game so muchm, but I think it will actually make Disgaea a better game. I used to not use any class that doesn't have a 3x3 damage skill, with the mobile version, I have a team of different classes!