The Problem With Jersey Retirements In The NBA

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Жыл бұрын

Why Carmelo Anthony May Never Get His Jersey Retired as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena crew honor Carmelo Anthony after his retirement and debate if his career was good enough to get his jersey retired by either the New York Knicks or Denver Nuggets.
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@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Gary Payton has no jerseys in the rafters, he’s top 75, played for 5 teams, made the finals in 3 different places, and won a ring
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Ray Allen is another, top 75, 2 rings, played for 4 teams, no jerseys retired
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Bob mcadoo, top 75, MVP, 7 teams, no jerseys retired
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Steve nash, top 75, 3 teams, 2 mvps, no jerseys retired
@desmonddavis3422
@desmonddavis3422 Жыл бұрын
Duh cuz they played for Seattle who has no team lol
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
@@desmonddavis3422their championships came with other franchises. And they were real contributors not just on the bench
@JohnnyScumbagg
@JohnnyScumbagg Жыл бұрын
I’m from NY and everytime Melo is at the garden he gets a standing ovation. We love him. Knicks will definitely retire #7.
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Yea that one time he got to the second round was magical
@JohnnyScumbagg
@JohnnyScumbagg Жыл бұрын
@@L4-295 for a deprived Knicks fan I was grateful for Melo to make us a little relevant again- even if it was just that one year lol. Hard being a Knicks fan.
@meatspin.
@meatspin. Жыл бұрын
@@L4-295 shit that was the last time they got there before this year lol so for them it’s a big deal😂
@spaceghostp6672
@spaceghostp6672 Жыл бұрын
I think they eventually will
@juney7668
@juney7668 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn that’s so trash hahaha 2nd round and he’s honored. They got such low standards
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
Brandon not being able to grasp that you can not have your jersey being retired and still be a top 75 player 😂
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris Жыл бұрын
Outside of that he was Lowkey spitting
@erickiyoshiphillips2323
@erickiyoshiphillips2323 Жыл бұрын
Lol how didn't he understand
@FlowboyVegas1
@FlowboyVegas1 Жыл бұрын
@@erickiyoshiphillips2323 because it doesnt make sense “im 1 of the best IN HISTORY but i cant have my jersey retired somewhere?” Thats hard to grasp
@BigDilf3
@BigDilf3 Жыл бұрын
He made a lot of sense
@Geeandrezzi
@Geeandrezzi Жыл бұрын
@@FlowboyVegas1no it isn’t. Y’all just overthink it. He definitely ain’t gettin his #15 retired for Denver lol. And he didn’t win anything for NY to retire him. Makes perfect sense
@d444
@d444 Жыл бұрын
If people can still wear #1 in Orlando after Penny and T Mac then it's not about how iconic a player was during a certain period, it has more to do with overall contribution
@jeffreyirizarry1749
@jeffreyirizarry1749 Жыл бұрын
Orlando is perfect example Hardaway shaq and McGrady should all have their jerseys retired there but they all spent like 5 yrs or less in orlando. Dwight howard might be the first but look how he left to
@STR1NGB34N1
@STR1NGB34N1 Жыл бұрын
Magic is just a joke franchise, bad example
@davidsato7898
@davidsato7898 Жыл бұрын
That depends on the organization. In the Knicks case, all retired jerseys except Patrick Ewing have won a championship there so that will be hard. In Orlandos case they havent won anything since foundation so the bar is really low. In case of Denver that is also hard since he share jerseys # with Jokic.
@Red-gc6dw
@Red-gc6dw Жыл бұрын
​@@davidsato7898 Patrick Ewing led the Knicks in a decade run of winning.
@davidsato7898
@davidsato7898 Жыл бұрын
@@Red-gc6dw yeah I know, even getting Knicks to Finals in 94, but sadly didnt won a chip. Thats why as I mentioned, Knicks are one of the stricter franchises in terms of Jerseys retirement, all players in the rafters in Madison Square Garden have won a Chip, except Ewing.
@iamnaimtheartist
@iamnaimtheartist Жыл бұрын
I love how Vince went out. AI and Melo feel forced out
@clutchcity25
@clutchcity25 Жыл бұрын
Same thing about to happen to Russell Westbrook.
@mikefun7482
@mikefun7482 Жыл бұрын
@@clutchcity25 and Kyrie once he stops putting up these numbers
@ninocrown3247
@ninocrown3247 Жыл бұрын
@@clutchcity25 Russ got lucky. If he didn’t accept his 6th man role in LA, he might have not got a chance with the Clippers, especially with that monster contract.
@je5406
@je5406 Жыл бұрын
Vince accepted and thrived in his role as a Vet of the bench. AI hated and Melo came to grips with if after a few years out of the league.
@Jack-jx6ln
@Jack-jx6ln Жыл бұрын
Vince is an ass
@anthonyphillips8393
@anthonyphillips8393 Жыл бұрын
The need to keep K-Mart & Jennings on every episode. Those dudes are funny asl unintentionally! 😂
@LarryStranger
@LarryStranger Жыл бұрын
Better than Rashad the delusional Retard
@TruthSpeaker4
@TruthSpeaker4 Жыл бұрын
Kenyon at the end is perfect 😂😂😂 Gibert stop it … stop it gil 😂😂
@DarkSaber22
@DarkSaber22 Жыл бұрын
GILBERT 🤣🤣🤣
@clutchcity25
@clutchcity25 Жыл бұрын
"Arguably the greatest basketball player of all time and you put him in the same breath as AC Green. That's a fuckin crime."
@willieervinjr2764
@willieervinjr2764 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@nisusholian
@nisusholian Жыл бұрын
Gilbert 😂
@universoullifebalance
@universoullifebalance Жыл бұрын
Lol yea he was buggin with the A C Green ish lol 😂😂
@Stagger456
@Stagger456 Жыл бұрын
As a Knicks fan retire 7. It don’t matter about the ring , what matters is the impact on the city with all the accolades. Man gave New York life I remember all my uncles being so happy to see the Knicks good again when melo came.
@Stagger456
@Stagger456 Жыл бұрын
Then I get later on and ya mans tryna distract pau is so crazy.
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
I agree that it doesn’t matter about the ring but he accomplished nothing with the knicks. Literally nothing. They made the second round once. That’s what you’re celebrating and rewarding??
@Ezekial2517
@Ezekial2517 Жыл бұрын
Man you Knicks fans are sad. Don’t settle for this shit.
@the77th
@the77th Жыл бұрын
Stop it…. I’m a Knicks fan… Linsanity more of Knicks history than anything melo did……
@PorkBelly-
@PorkBelly- Жыл бұрын
@@the77th Linsanity only lasted a week
@jalengreen5
@jalengreen5 Жыл бұрын
Getting your jersey retired is how a franchise honors the accolades/contributions said players provided the team (ie. Mvps, championships, awards). Being a really good ball player with nothing to show for it doesn't get your jersey retired sadly but you'll def go down in history
@spaceghostp6672
@spaceghostp6672 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the team. Nick Collision has his retired lol
@fatxbull6259
@fatxbull6259 Жыл бұрын
10x all star all nba scoring champ one of only 2 guys to have 10k points with 2 teams and the most gold medals in Olympic basketball has a lot to show for it
@FlowboyVegas1
@FlowboyVegas1 Жыл бұрын
Yao Ming…..
@nbastar12223
@nbastar12223 Жыл бұрын
So what Bron jersey will Lakers retire 23 or 6
@marinchihwai7248
@marinchihwai7248 Жыл бұрын
@@fatxbull6259 HE has a lot, a WHOLE LOT to show for HIS career. But what team has things to show for having him being there and what do they have to show?!
@dsmooth9702
@dsmooth9702 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't need his jerseys retired to validate his greatness. 1st ballot hall of famer for sure! Only a chip in the league stops his name from being mentioned amongst the top 15 players of all time
@marleyking4208
@marleyking4208 Жыл бұрын
Pete Marvich's #7 jersey was retired by the New Orleans Hornets (now Pelicans) (2002), even though he never played for them-one of only four players to have a number retired by a team they did not play for; Maravich did play professionally for the New Orleans Jazz, however, and has remained a greatly admired figure amongst New Orleans sports fans ever since.
@mikeybrass8938
@mikeybrass8938 Жыл бұрын
That's cuz when they got the hornet's from the NBA they acquired the history of the New Orleans team that previously resided there because the league kept the Charlotte history which Jordan acquired and changed them back to the hornet's
@fcmas
@fcmas Жыл бұрын
​@@mikeybrass8938 the Miami Heat retired Jordan's number
@lucky1954
@lucky1954 9 ай бұрын
​@@fcmasJordan who
@johnwinning5724
@johnwinning5724 8 ай бұрын
@@lucky1954what you mean Jordan who lmao. Pat Riley retired Michael Jordan’s number in Miami and said every team should’ve done that. Which is why when LeBron went to Miami he was wearing 6 since he couldn’t be 23 and as soon as he went back to Cleveland he was 23 again
@DJBrexx
@DJBrexx 8 ай бұрын
Correction: The New Jazz. ✊🏿
@richierich6079
@richierich6079 Жыл бұрын
Did Brandon Jennings say 'What has Pat done?' in reference to Pat Ewing's time on the Knicks??? 😂 That's crazy
@lazndora2026
@lazndora2026 Жыл бұрын
He's a casual
@lakeshow3237
@lakeshow3237 Жыл бұрын
He’s talking about rings tho Pat didn’t get one so Melo should get his jersey retired
@youngmindelevation1176
@youngmindelevation1176 Жыл бұрын
I think he was saying in retrospect to melo being in the rafters next to Ewing he is just as good as Ewing as far as impact
@jamalwalker
@jamalwalker 9 ай бұрын
​@@lakeshow3237 swing brought that team to multiple conference finals and finals appearances and was always loyal through bad & good he was the the franchise cornerstone. Melo made it to the playoffs 3 times and never even made it to the conference finals on the Knicks they had a public feud on the way out
@naothi
@naothi 5 ай бұрын
​@@lakeshow3237Pat led to Knicks to 2 Finals. Led to deep Playoffs runs multiple times. Don't compare that ball hog to Patrick Ewing. Don't disrespect Big Pat like that
@mattybuu4910
@mattybuu4910 Жыл бұрын
Melo didn't want to be in Denver anymore, forced his way out. That plays a role in it as well.
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Forced his way out is strong, he just told them he was leaving in the off-season and not resigning so they better trade him or else he was leaving them with nothing in return. He lowkey did them a favor
@iillestrs2153
@iillestrs2153 Жыл бұрын
I don’t blame him either, they got him washed stars to play with and he had to deal with George karl lol most stars would have wanted out too
@marleymarsss
@marleymarsss Жыл бұрын
@@L4-295 these Nugget fans be odee with the hate for this man leaving it’s kinda sick
@alarydavidnin
@alarydavidnin Жыл бұрын
​@@L4-295 hahahahaha almost nothing that your superstar tells you trade me or lose me for nothing😂. Almost lika a kind act of God
@alarydavidnin
@alarydavidnin Жыл бұрын
​@@iillestrs2153 washed stars? Like Allen Iverson comming from scoring champ season, who averaged 25ppg, lol.
@TheSportsfansSam
@TheSportsfansSam Жыл бұрын
Gil bugging if he thinks Bron isn’t getting his jersey retired in Miami.
@andylee6147
@andylee6147 Жыл бұрын
Miami yes lakers fk no
@TheSportsfansSam
@TheSportsfansSam Жыл бұрын
@@andylee6147 Lakers is a stretch I agree. But even if they did retire it, it would make some sense.
@disgruntledveteran3698
@disgruntledveteran3698 Жыл бұрын
@@ShaunWickso if i spent 19 years on other teams, switch to a new team just to pass kareem, that new team has to retire my jersey. What if i got to the new team two points away from passing kareem?
@certifiedchaos4643
@certifiedchaos4643 Жыл бұрын
Yea Lebron jersey is getting retired nobody has worn 6 since he has left
@jamesonedwardsii4943
@jamesonedwardsii4943 Жыл бұрын
@@disgruntledveteran3698 he won them a ring regardless of passing the scoring record….
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris Жыл бұрын
Brandon Jennings Lowkey spitting outside of not being able to grasp the Jersey stuff lol
@SuperWizzle85
@SuperWizzle85 Жыл бұрын
Pau had 3 championship runs winning two titles and gave us like 6-7 years
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
If Jokic never plays another game they will retire his jersey in Denver. 2x MVP and got to the finals. Best player in franchise history
@saiyanroyalty229
@saiyanroyalty229 Жыл бұрын
Retire both 15's in Denver it's not hard
@anthonynorman7545
@anthonynorman7545 Жыл бұрын
Denver is still mad at Melo though lol
@indamaking
@indamaking Жыл бұрын
Should’ve never been given the number
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
@@saiyanroyalty229 I don’t think melo deserves to get his jersey retired in Denver
@luckieharbert6323
@luckieharbert6323 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I wouldn’t do both lol
@Tobias_Edith
@Tobias_Edith Жыл бұрын
Gilbert....Stop It!!! lmfaooo (KM) that one hit Hard! I knew you felt that.
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Had to say his whole name so you know he was serious 😂
@robertpina7345
@robertpina7345 Жыл бұрын
He shouldn't get his jersey retired, he didn't accomplish anything with either
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@nikoa5795
@nikoa5795 Жыл бұрын
this is the take
@thegreat9481
@thegreat9481 Жыл бұрын
With a name like Piña, your opinion on basketball is irrelevant.
@chicagotank
@chicagotank Жыл бұрын
Getting your jersey retired means you was a great player for that organization not the league, winning rings and how long you played for their organization. Players now wants to run from teams to teams to get easy rings
@hsilver20
@hsilver20 Жыл бұрын
You don't get to force your way off a team and still get your jersey retired so forget about Denver. For the Knicks they made the playoffs 3 times in 7 seasons and won 1 first round series. Dude was incredibly talented but whatever it is that turns talent into winning he didn't have at the pro level.
@nolimitcell
@nolimitcell Жыл бұрын
The Heat retired Shaq number after 4 years why wouldn’t they retire Lebron’s lol Gil be arguing just to argue sometimes 😂
@dp4kallday
@dp4kallday Жыл бұрын
He's an idiot that's why!
@nikoa5795
@nikoa5795 Жыл бұрын
they just talking crazy
@amos7000
@amos7000 Жыл бұрын
Lakers are a bit different they have a longer more extensive legacy of winning, also Bron switched jerseys on the Lakers so he basically split his accolades on the Lakers in half trying to copy Kobe but he hasn't accomplished enough to get either jersey retired
@sadraclouischarles3579
@sadraclouischarles3579 Жыл бұрын
@@amos7000 I get what you’re saying but Wilt Chamberlain got his jersey retired with about 6000 points averaging 17ppg. Lebron is already at 7600 points averaging 27.4ppg as a LAKER. And he got the Finals MVP something Wilt didn’t get in LA.
@amos7000
@amos7000 Жыл бұрын
@@sadraclouischarles3579 No Wilt did get the FMVP in LA, also Brons ring is different compared to every other ring in history, it was during a pandemic in a bubble, I don't think the Lakers organization really respects that ring.
@NotoriousSSV
@NotoriousSSV Жыл бұрын
#15 is retired twice in NY. & #30 is retired twice in Portland.
@decaturgrands
@decaturgrands Жыл бұрын
13:27 Look At BJ when cuz say “AC Green”😂😂😂😂 Like. “ I know DAM well we ain’t bringing up AC Green😂😂😂
@MelloDeeBeats
@MelloDeeBeats Жыл бұрын
Buddy forgets Vince Carter farewell tour. If somebody announces this is their last year and they're a legend, they get a farewell tour. It's not like Kobes but its still a farewell tour.
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 Жыл бұрын
It’s possible to retire a number twice. Some hall of famers have also allowed younger players to take their numbers. I forgot which Phoenix Suns player got Chuck’s permission to wear 34
@cesarbarbosa8875
@cesarbarbosa8875 Жыл бұрын
But always u have the jersey retired before a second and relevant player use it
@mikeybrass8938
@mikeybrass8938 Жыл бұрын
@@cesarbarbosa8875 they probably didn't think jokic would pan out like he did
@3serio
@3serio Жыл бұрын
@@mikeybrass8938 i know the question was asked when requested the number. They were probably like “he’ll be outta here by the time Melo retires…”
@drxppy4l792
@drxppy4l792 Жыл бұрын
@@3serio faxxxx😭😭😭😭
@Extra0711
@Extra0711 Жыл бұрын
I love gils watch parties! These are GREAT!!!
@mikedeeztv
@mikedeeztv Жыл бұрын
"Stop it Gill" 😂
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Even called him Gilbert lol that’s when you know he was fed up lol
@sjaykay9884
@sjaykay9884 Жыл бұрын
Damn Melo can’t even get a day to just say job well done. Debate that other shit another day
@slycooper1979
@slycooper1979 Жыл бұрын
It’s so sad bro. People are just throwing his name in the mud can’t just say congratulations and move on shìt is crazy
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris Жыл бұрын
@@slycooper1979 they do this so often with players man
@Dnero518
@Dnero518 Жыл бұрын
For real all these channels should be appreciating his greatness and remembering sone of his amazing performances and stuff but I'm not seeing much on it. F the media, they literally ruined his reputation, one of the greatest basketball players ever.
@BlueSkiesSunnyDays
@BlueSkiesSunnyDays Жыл бұрын
I know there’s other top 75 players that don’t have their jersey retired but it’s something about Carmelo Anthony not having his retired something feels off about that.
@STR1NGB34N1
@STR1NGB34N1 Жыл бұрын
He just retired….
@pierrefalcis4524
@pierrefalcis4524 Жыл бұрын
gil had me dying when he brought up ac green 😂😂😂
@d444
@d444 Жыл бұрын
He just trolled everyone look at Jennings and KMart's reactions lol
@spectershore4482
@spectershore4482 Жыл бұрын
We need Kenyon as a guest ! He has the Dad big bro attitude ! Shape ! With nice approaches! He good ! Brandon when he's cumfortable, he brings some good vibes ! Like it ! Well casted guests ! Keep up the good work agent zerooo!!💪🏾⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@BloodSasuke101
@BloodSasuke101 Жыл бұрын
He embraced the team and the city! Melo and Amare deserve jersey retirements for taking on the challenge of playing for us!
@Blank9458
@Blank9458 Жыл бұрын
Amare? Y’all tryna see everyone jersey retired
@jeffreyirizarry1749
@jeffreyirizarry1749 Жыл бұрын
@@Blank9458 maybe Phoenix but he killed for a half a season here then got hurt again that doesn't get anything in the rafters
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS Жыл бұрын
As much as I grew up watching Melo in Denver and loved his game and loved that period of basketball, should they really be retiring his jersey? Like they achieved very little success in those years and he left for another franchise and spent a very long time there. I'm not sure that meets the mark for jersey retirement in my eyes.
@lilasap8514
@lilasap8514 10 ай бұрын
He only left because they started to break up the team from 09 when they went to the conference finals. That’s when he decided to leave
@fritz2live
@fritz2live 9 ай бұрын
Bc Kobe and Duncan were smacking every team around in the rugged west
@thegametapes
@thegametapes Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite discussion so far in this podcast..I like when b Jennings is more into the convo
@pookyman12
@pookyman12 Жыл бұрын
Every Player in the NBA's Top 10 All-time Points Scored has their Jersey Retired🔥 Nuggets wrong for giving Jokic Carmelo Anthony's Jersey. Folks forget Jokic wore #1 in Summer League 💯
@royg2723
@royg2723 Жыл бұрын
Gil is right this generation being gifted retirement look at the work u put in wit dat team in Jordan era nobody won but MJ players stayed loyal to they teams and made HOF 💯facts
@alwynlouis4371
@alwynlouis4371 Жыл бұрын
Nobody has worn #7 since melo left the Knicks . I think that speaks volumes.
@brotherLee340
@brotherLee340 Жыл бұрын
He ain't been gone that long. And Personally I remember Melo more as a Nugget.
@isaakfrmla
@isaakfrmla Жыл бұрын
Gil’s tripping on this one BIG time
@slimdigga9100
@slimdigga9100 Жыл бұрын
Gil always tripping. He's an egotistical maniac.
@isaakfrmla
@isaakfrmla Жыл бұрын
@@slimdigga9100 he’s only tripping bc he was on the wizards for 7 years and they didn’t retire his number😂
@cyberft
@cyberft Жыл бұрын
He’s not trippen at all on Melo. Why would either of the franchises Melo played at an all-star level for retire his jersey. He has zero finals appearances and left both places with a bad taste upon exiting.
@holdmyweight3597
@holdmyweight3597 Жыл бұрын
@isaakduarte9836 The Wizards are a bum franchise. Arenas had his downs and it didn’t end well in Washington but he’s still a top 5 Wizards all time. We won’t get his jersey retired since they let their rookie draft pick wear his #0. Fucking joke. Even Westbrook out of respect to Gil didn’t wear #0 when he was in Washington that one year.
@danielmaia3559
@danielmaia3559 Жыл бұрын
From the 75 list, these are all the players that haven’t got their jerseys retired yet • Ray Allen • Giannis Antetokounmpo • Carmelo Anthony • Nate Archibald • Paul Arizin • Dave Bing • Dave Cowens • Billy Cunningham • Dave DeBusschere • Kevin Durant • James Harden • Elvin Hayes • Damian Lillard • Jerry Lucas • Bob McAdoo • Steve Nash • Chris Paul • Gary Payton • Bob Pettit • Scottie Pippen • Willis Reed • Dennis Rodman • Dolph Schayes • Bill Sharman • John Stockton • Nate Thurmond • Wes Unseld • Russell Westbrook • Lenny Wilkens
@Roadrunner0077
@Roadrunner0077 Жыл бұрын
He can’t get 15 retired in Denver because Jokic and honestly as a Knicks fan I don’t think he should get his #7 retired in New York ….outside the name it was a disappointing few seasons besides 1
@MrJamb0ree
@MrJamb0ree Жыл бұрын
If that's the case no Knicks should get a jersey retired 😂
@Sonsenju23
@Sonsenju23 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJamb0reepreach
@rafaeldiaz1646
@rafaeldiaz1646 Жыл бұрын
Disappointing but not cause him. There have been few to no circumstances where he hasn’t came through for his team. Only thing I blame him for is being stingy with money so the teams can’t surround him with talent
@codeinecrazy3286
@codeinecrazy3286 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaeldiaz1646 imagine if everybody in the league takes a pay cut. That is foolish
@codeinecrazy3286
@codeinecrazy3286 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaeldiaz1646 it would be foolish bc it doesn’t guarantee a championship
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris Жыл бұрын
Bron getting his jersey retired in all 3 cities. What was Gil talking about.
@oreoblast2012
@oreoblast2012 Жыл бұрын
He should NOT get his jersey in LA based on his current resume. They may give it to him if he retires a Laker for sentiment but if he goes with Bronny somewhere else? NAH
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris Жыл бұрын
@@oreoblast2012 His LA resume is easily going in the rafter it’s not even something worth debating
@sidseverino
@sidseverino 7 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more when KMart saying to Gil "Now you sound like this guy" while pointing to Shad 😂😂
@yep.4635
@yep.4635 Жыл бұрын
Jeannie has said that the Lakers have very very strict criteria for jersey retirement. Have to with so many legends that come thru there. Even Kobe's numbers were evaluated (both of them separately) to see if they met the standards. DFish is not retired in LA. Only Kobe, Shaq, and Pau are from the more recent dynasties.
@spectershore4482
@spectershore4482 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks for sharing ! 👏🏾👏🏾
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 Жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense now
@Goplaywitsom1else
@Goplaywitsom1else Жыл бұрын
This man GIL thought JOKIC was in his 4TH year i am doneeeee😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mooodybluez
@mooodybluez Жыл бұрын
Man Melo put the Denver nuggets on the map. They can retire the number twice
@donaldsemienjr7707
@donaldsemienjr7707 Жыл бұрын
B Jennings: People was crying in the stands Gil: That’s cool 😂😂😂😂😂
@Mayo_Osama
@Mayo_Osama Жыл бұрын
Gil tha only one makin sense, EVERYBODY GONE GET THEY JERSEY RETIRED WIT THEY MINDSET
@josh0253
@josh0253 Жыл бұрын
Getting your jersey retired in a team you have to been to a conference finals AT LEAST twice, or gotten your team to the finals at least once, and then ofc on top of your own individual stuff. Melo had the all the individual scoring accolades you could have but hes was getting knocked out in the first round almost every year of his career except maybe 2.
@marcelmarshall4240
@marcelmarshall4240 Жыл бұрын
The Derek Fisher slander is wrong. Jennings is tripping. Fisher was KEY to them winning, right after Kobe and Shaq. He was KEY to every chip. He played amazingly. Great defense. Great point guard. Clutch shots.
@marcelmarshall4240
@marcelmarshall4240 Жыл бұрын
@Michael Martin You must be a teenager. Derek Fisher..even Kobe said was KEY. Stop it. Not Scheming for a player does not mean they are not key. He was the STARTING point guard for every game of every playoff Kobe was in. He was the FLOOR general. His decision making and defense were exceptional, and his shot-making. Clearly, you were eight years old when Kobe was winning. Stop it. You sound ridiculous.
@SamsterTH
@SamsterTH Жыл бұрын
13:31 "Now you sound like this f*cking guy" 💀
@iillestrs2153
@iillestrs2153 Жыл бұрын
He’s going to get his jersey retired in NY. Also gil saying the heat won’t retire bron jersey is ridiculous, they retired shaq jersey lol they definitely retiring bron’s. Up for debate if the lakers do but I wouldn’t be surprised and we know damn well Cleveland retiring brons
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 Жыл бұрын
"His resume is crazy." No rings. No MVPs. Never made it to the Finals. I saw someone leave a comment about Gary Payton. Top 75 all time, made 3 Finals, and won a ring. He has a better resume than Melo. I'll never understand the Melo praise. He was selfish. He played no defense. He was all about himself. Him forcing his way to the Knicks proved that cause he could've waited 3 months and signed there but instead he gutted the team with the trade.
@DarkSaber22
@DarkSaber22 Жыл бұрын
Nuggets can absolutely do what the Celtics did. One of their banners is for Jim Loscutoff. He has his nickname "Loscy" in all caps in the rafters. Nuggets can do the same and have MELO up there
@801Kicks
@801Kicks Жыл бұрын
If the lakers retire Lebron’s jersey, we just lowering the bar.
@turneryoung905
@turneryoung905 Жыл бұрын
Portland will always get Hood respect for getting Melo back in the NBA for MULTIPLE YEARS on a playoff team where he proved he can be a highly successful winning role player after the attempted career assassination where he was unsigned for damne near a season sittin on ESPN First Take trying to justify himself bein in the league after the Houston debacle.
@GunninRebel55
@GunninRebel55 Жыл бұрын
Melo could've done a farewell tour with Portland or LAL but chose not too. I don't think he believed it would end like this. Maybe he comes back in as an end of bench guy if some contending team needs to fill a roster spot. Idk if he'd even want that but it's possible.
@rapgodreloaded9259
@rapgodreloaded9259 11 ай бұрын
Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Byron Scott and Michael Cooper need to have their Laker jerseys retired.
@peterguirguess853
@peterguirguess853 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't melo doing well w Portland???
@williamthompson5517
@williamthompson5517 Жыл бұрын
I want that hat Kenyon got on love that Dallas shit
@eaglemail967
@eaglemail967 Жыл бұрын
13:23 A.C. Green catching strays for no reason I can’t 🤣
@MirrorMirrorConvos
@MirrorMirrorConvos Жыл бұрын
“STOP IT GILBERT.” 🤣🤣🤣
@fadya.3660
@fadya.3660 Жыл бұрын
Why are they acting like the league blackballed him. He’s not good enough for the league right now. Even if he is better than some of the younger guys, those guys at least represent potential. His time came and went. It’s not “unfortunate” that he has to prove himself because he hasn’t proven he’s worth taking minutes from other guys. The best situation possible is one like Kevin Love has with the heat and even then, Kevin Love is a better facilitator. Right now he’s just a spot up shooter that’ll give up 20 points on D for every 10 he gives you. He’s an all-time great but it’s just over. He could have had his farewell tour if he didn’t wait this long. It should have been with the Blazers or Lakers.
@ceebrown2087
@ceebrown2087 Жыл бұрын
If Deandre Jordan and PJ Tucker can have a roster spot Carmelo definitely could 😂💯
@hippievisions
@hippievisions Жыл бұрын
What has pat done ? Patrick Ewing for the knicks that’s crazy to even say 😂
@olodakun2k84
@olodakun2k84 Жыл бұрын
This debate funny asf & it was very entertaining
@factsoverfeelings9228
@factsoverfeelings9228 Жыл бұрын
Jennings; "people was crying in the stands" Gil: "yeah thats cool" 😂
@stryleyung3891
@stryleyung3891 Жыл бұрын
He could’ve played on a lot of teams the suns should’ve went and got him definitely could’ve helped him out
@SonSolo
@SonSolo Жыл бұрын
I’m not even a LeBron stan, but dude is a legend. He’s in a different category than a Derek Fisher. He’s definitely getting his jersey retired from 3 teams.
@Haze.
@Haze. Жыл бұрын
Bro what’s up wit this weird stuff with ppl saying Stan just say fan bro yall be sounding so stupid talking bout some damn Stan just say fan less letters and it’s the actual word damn society so weird and killing the new generation. No hate tho bro just saying.
@SonSolo
@SonSolo Жыл бұрын
@@Haze. GTFHO! I say exactly what I want and if you don’t like it, keep scrolling.
@Fred_Die
@Fred_Die Жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Carmelo, the NBA's best roleplayer ever
@GIDENTERPRISE
@GIDENTERPRISE Жыл бұрын
gil u sound crazy this time😂😂😂
@hellboy30098
@hellboy30098 Жыл бұрын
Nuggets shouldn't retire Melos number I agree with Gil, Jersey Retirements are an appreciation from THE TEAM. A thank you for what you did in their organization. Melo was a good player for multiple teams where as Lebron was a generational player for every team. And wom a championship AND accomplished something incredible for each team. Heat -Back to Back trio, Cavs 3-1 comeback Lakers- Kobe's death ring, top leading scorer ever.
@stevenscummy1458
@stevenscummy1458 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, at this current point it's fair to lightly question James jersey retirement with the Lakers, only because they have so much history. But he's a top player of all time even during his older age with the Lakers and they did win a chip, I don't see James not getting his jersey retired and a statue outside the arena. In Miami and Cleveland's case there's no doubt, Gilbert was focused on points, because that's all Gil ever thinks about is points, Gilbert didn't play defense or pass the ball after all. In Miami he was the best version of himself ever, 4 finals appearances, two back to back chips, finals MVPS, regular season MVPS, should have won defensive player of the year. Although in 2015 I feel like that was a peak year where he was still just as athletic, but also had reached mastery of the game, just a shame in those finals literally everybody on the Cavs was injured. Cavaliers are self explanatory, his many years there and the body of work he put in, plus he's from the area and most importantly brought them their first and only championship.
@da_jeezuss8922
@da_jeezuss8922 Жыл бұрын
I dont even think its a big deal. Its not like 20 years from now someone gonna be like "He dont even have a retired number? Pssshhh, he trash." 😂
@omaribelgrave9350
@omaribelgrave9350 Жыл бұрын
As a Knicks fan, I’d put Melo in the rafters. But BJ is wildin’ asking “what has Pat done” have some respect
@lemeshadow
@lemeshadow Жыл бұрын
Brandon is using the term journeyman incorrectly. When you're one of the best players in the league and you force trades or sign with other teams as a free agent you're not a journeyman. A journeyman is Jeff Green. He contributes but he HAS to bounce from team to team because he can't be a franchise cornerstone.
@leokizzo3515
@leokizzo3515 Жыл бұрын
Nick Collison has his jersey retired in OKC. If Melo don’t get his jersey retired in Denver and New York then what does that tell you
@carlozcabrera
@carlozcabrera Жыл бұрын
Nick was with them since Seattle. It shows that commitment to a team is what retires your number if the team respects you
@marcusmoody6561
@marcusmoody6561 Жыл бұрын
This grown dude stay wearing that crown 💀 I can't! 😂
@MrJamb0ree
@MrJamb0ree Жыл бұрын
I'm here thinking why, he ain't no king lol
@marcusmoody6561
@marcusmoody6561 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJamb0ree exactly like bruh stop the madness 🤣
@vincentbrown1872
@vincentbrown1872 Жыл бұрын
Here is some truth from a Knicks fan. Like Ewing before him, and Stephon Marbury before him, and Isiah Thomas as GM before him, and others Melo was never treated fairly by the Media and there were two really bad hatchet jobs done to him. The first was Linsanity where Chinese Fans came to the Garden and celebrated their countryman with the type of fervor and support seen in other countries. The Media jumped on this brief phenomenon and declared ( Mark Berman NY Post When Anthony returns from the IL he better know it's Lin's team " ) Lin is the team's star and best player promoting a confrontation with him as the star of the team. If that were not bad enough he had his GM Phil Jackson publicly diss him even after signing him to a max contract. Anthony was also not appreciated by some fans and deserved a lot more respect and appreciation. His treatment in NYC reminded other top stars to stay away from playing in NY.
@IvanDjuric300
@IvanDjuric300 Жыл бұрын
Man that’s crazy. Melo jersey has to get retired. But it can’t be at Denver. So unfortunate.
@smuveluciano2896
@smuveluciano2896 Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been great if melo could’ve finished his career in Denver this year and get a ring on the way out. Melo one of the greatest scorers to play the game. 💯🏁
@rell4219
@rell4219 Жыл бұрын
They’re still mad at how he forced his way out. That’s why they let Jokic get his number.
@chiefrebelangel817
@chiefrebelangel817 Жыл бұрын
LOL, why would they do that?
@tyleredwards970
@tyleredwards970 9 ай бұрын
The pau argument is where Gil lost me. He made it seem like pau played forever with the lakers and then when they showed him bron has more points and has one less chip then him Gil kept on it. Bron didn’t play that long in Miami and they are for sure retiring his jersey. Kd will have his jersey in two rafters
@NAMISIMP
@NAMISIMP 7 ай бұрын
kd should only get retired in okc in my opinion
@tyleredwards970
@tyleredwards970 7 ай бұрын
@@NAMISIMP I agree.
@immafatazn
@immafatazn 7 ай бұрын
there’s no doubt lebron gets his jersey retired in miami lol. what gil is wrong about on this is that you have to consider the franchises history and the context behind it. lebron got the heat 2/3 of their championships lol. without him, they’d still only have the one they got from dwade and shaq. how can you not retire his jersey? yeah he only spent 4 years there, but he got the job done in two of them. there are still a bunch of franchises in the nba that have yet to win a championship
@drichardbailey
@drichardbailey 8 ай бұрын
I love that gil only sees the league through points
@tontowtoronto5733
@tontowtoronto5733 Жыл бұрын
Jersey retirement are too common
@Rellbronjames9
@Rellbronjames9 Жыл бұрын
Melo didn't get a fair shake, my boy was a walking bucket. Played his whole career with the heart of a lion
@saucecastillo460
@saucecastillo460 Жыл бұрын
Are you saying he didn't get a fair shake, bc nobody signed him? Or something else? And if something else, what?
@Rellbronjames9
@Rellbronjames9 Жыл бұрын
@@saucecastillo460 Both he still had a lot left in him to play
@saucecastillo460
@saucecastillo460 Жыл бұрын
@@Rellbronjames9 ok, what's the something else? And he could clearly still play & not just be a vet/mentor to a young team, but his story is complicated. The narrative is he was about his money & stats, and his moves kinda showed that. And if that's the case, I'm not mad at him, but it does impact how you're viewed. Not saying he didn't get a fair shake, but just curious how you feel he got jobbed
@Rellbronjames9
@Rellbronjames9 Жыл бұрын
@@saucecastillo460 Do you think he got a fair shake for a player of his caliber?
@saucecastillo460
@saucecastillo460 Жыл бұрын
@@Rellbronjames9 you said he didn't get a fair shake. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't know if that's true. I'm curious how/why you feel he didn't get a fair shake
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
I love the athlete retirement announcements because it’s always like they’re the last to know lol melo BEEN retired lol I guess he’s just now accepting it
@tila99
@tila99 Жыл бұрын
Retirements means you are no longer available for the activities in question. If no team picks him up he could have gone to Taiwan, China, Europe etc. He is making it clear that he is done playing basketball, anywhere, professionally.
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
@@tila99thanks magic!
@ricedavone9108
@ricedavone9108 Жыл бұрын
A high percentage of melos shots don't touch the rim....his pull up was so efficient with a quick release ...
@5starreactions
@5starreactions Жыл бұрын
He had our city on fire!!!! Syracuse legend brought us the chip! Gmac, melo, duany and company
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Gmac was a stud
@iamidnight9731
@iamidnight9731 Жыл бұрын
I like KMart as a player and now as an "analyst".
@bo0gi3
@bo0gi3 Жыл бұрын
podcaster
@quis.j6844
@quis.j6844 Жыл бұрын
AI and Melo was forced out because the could not adjust the older they got . Can’t believe everyone seems to forget how Melo did not wanna come off the bench when they weren’t the guy anymore
@darrenjohnson2043
@darrenjohnson2043 Жыл бұрын
Who was better than Melo on that OKC team?
@Geeandrezzi
@Geeandrezzi Жыл бұрын
@@darrenjohnson2043doesn’t matter. He could’ve came off the bench and still played as many minutes as a starter. His ego wouldn’t allow him to see the bigger picture
@AlexTorres-fo5eo
@AlexTorres-fo5eo Жыл бұрын
Shaq was here for 3 years, and still got his jersey in the rafters, but Miami tends to retire everyone's number
@Greego
@Greego Жыл бұрын
All 30 teams overlooking Melo was no coincidence but other retired players always seem puzzled.
@jalen3590
@jalen3590 Жыл бұрын
We all know that NYK jersey going up but the nuggets cant because of Jokic
@mr.beatsmachine
@mr.beatsmachine Жыл бұрын
I think they could if they really wanted to Don’t other franchises have multiples of the same number retired But I think the way it ended with Denver they won’t Jokic is a better choice after all But yeah Knicks should 1,000% retire the #7
@jalen3590
@jalen3590 Жыл бұрын
@IGcantstopfactsbreh can't talk to niggas that don't know ball. First ballot hof for a reason.
@jwynemiller7296
@jwynemiller7296 Жыл бұрын
Cp3 getting retired in nola
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Nah
@Hooperd2023
@Hooperd2023 Жыл бұрын
@@L4-295 Chris Paul Jersey getting retired in black history for calling out racism at every organization he’s been at beside OKC & Houston.
@JonDon33tv
@JonDon33tv Жыл бұрын
When he said ac green I hit the floor😂😂😂😂😂
@3serio
@3serio Жыл бұрын
That’s why they should get rid of jersey retirements. Get honored, and your jersey in the rafters (it has your name on it) and you come do a speech. The fans will know who the dawgs that played for the team, no matter what number they wore. If not, look up.
@slickeddy2000
@slickeddy2000 Жыл бұрын
It’s up to the Franchise to pick what numbers they wanna retire. So the newer franchise like timberwolves,Raptors,Grizzlies,Heat,Magic, Hornets have a lower barrier for someone to get there jersey retired because they only have history from the late 80’s/Earl 90’s Like the Nba retired #6 for Bill Russell nobody else coming in can wear it. Miami Retired Michael Jordan number for his contribution to basketball 🏀. So it’s possible.
@richieporter3798
@richieporter3798 Жыл бұрын
Miami retired Michael Jordan jersey? How,when, why? He never played for the Heat
@OBCGUAP
@OBCGUAP Жыл бұрын
Pat Riley had it retired
@thunderking8925
@thunderking8925 Жыл бұрын
Old news.. It's been retired for over 20+ years
@slickeddy2000
@slickeddy2000 Жыл бұрын
@@richieporter3798 Yeah Pat Riley did it. Michael Jordan really did come in at a good time. Jordan becoming the poster boy for the Nba. His exciting style of play . MJ & Nike we’re global ambassador for Basketball and the Nba. MJ still makes a lot of Money. The Last Dance, the Goat Debates on tv,podcast ,space jam movies, Jersey sales,Sneakers, Gatorade sponsorship help bring alot of eyes to the nba
@CedAdj
@CedAdj Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to think that Melo is sitting at #9 on the all time scoring list even though he has been on the decline since the OKC trade in 2017. Every team wanted him to re-adjust his game for some reason and if it wasn't for that him and LeBron would have been battling for the #1 spot on the all time scoring list today. It is sad that this man went out like this when he had so much to give to this game. The league robbed his career man.
@zachnantz5304
@zachnantz5304 Жыл бұрын
That's a weird take lol, he isn't efficient on offense and is statistically one of the worst defenders of the last 3-4 years
@nikoa5795
@nikoa5795 Жыл бұрын
Sad that he refused to adapt, man was still playing 00 ball
@helarpanibour8107
@helarpanibour8107 Жыл бұрын
Nah I feel you on most of this but Melo would have to not get injured for this to be kind of true
@ted6580
@ted6580 Жыл бұрын
Long difficult 2-pointers on isos are a low percentage shot. The man hasn’t reached 44% on field goals since 2015. And he’s a worse defender than Harden. He should have been out of the league a decade ago 😂
@AaronBowser
@AaronBowser 10 ай бұрын
Now you know why the league had to sabotage Melo's career... Same with Westbrook
@RjsCKiwi
@RjsCKiwi Жыл бұрын
Interesting points.. alot..! if we talking Melo.. 8 years.. Plus Denver never missed the post season with his help..! Respect.. Missing B4.. he didn't break their back.. gave them Murray 💯🙏. Retire 15 Twice, Imo.! Deserved ✌️👍🇳🇿
@lulbenji1146
@lulbenji1146 10 ай бұрын
Congrats 👏 on your retirement 🎉🎉one of the best 👌 👍
@isaiah2387
@isaiah2387 Жыл бұрын
Bosh got his jersey retired in Miami tho
@L4-295
@L4-295 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and he had 0 points in game 7 of the finals in 2013.
@mandark5789
@mandark5789 Жыл бұрын
That city and organization love him enough reason to retire his jersey.
@jaahnnn
@jaahnnn Жыл бұрын
These are the things you need to think about when you force your way off of teams
@lavaildavisss6809
@lavaildavisss6809 Жыл бұрын
Stop it , just stop it 😂 that was priceless
@speedybug1377
@speedybug1377 Жыл бұрын
Not about the points it’s the impact of How you affected the team while you was there
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