The Scene That BROKE Ben 10

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10 ай бұрын

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THE REVIEW
I watch each episode with my own commentary, often pausing the scenes to get my words out without having to talk over the episode, and also to point out and analyze the show's art and animation. I have seen each episode already growing up, so these reviews are to compare and contrast the five categories listed below.
PLOT (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
The foundation of the episode. Uniqueness and overused tropes are taken into account, but it is also judged on how well it tells the story of the episode. An episode can score a 5 even with a basic/ cliche plotline as long as it has good pacing, worthy use of its tropes, and feels well-polished. An episode can lose points due to plotholes, uneven storytelling, and relying too heavily on cliches to do the work for it.
CHARACTERIZATION (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
How well the characters are written. Do they feel like themselves compared to the grand narrative of the franchise? Are the supporting or one-off characters interesting, or pure plot devices? Did the humor land? Did the actions and character motivations make sense?
VISUALS (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
Basically, everything that happens on-screen. Character Design. Animation. Backgrounds. Creative mechanics and solutions. If there is CGI or digital effects added, how well do they blend into the show, and were they used as an enhancement, or a crutch?
IMPORTANCE (Scaled from 1 to 5 Points)
This includes, but is not strictly based on, how important the episodes are to the current story arc (if there is one) or the general narrative of the Ben 10 Franchise. Points can also be awarded for how impactful the episode was, or how favored/ important it is to the general Ben 10 fanbase. I ask myself, "If I skipped this, would I be missing out on the 'Ben 10 Experience?' "
ENTERTAINMENT (Scaled from 1 to 5)
Pretty much the most important part of developing a tv show. You can be perfect in all four of the previous categories, but the episode can still be boring. On the flip side, the episode can be absolute garbage, but still an enjoyable watch. How likely would you be to put this episode on if you were in the mood to watch Ben 10?

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@Ray-zp3lm
@Ray-zp3lm 10 ай бұрын
Alien force s1 and 2 proved that you can write good episodes while having Ben get the alien he wants. If the show wanted Ben to stick with a wrong transformation, they should of had a rule where he has to wait 10 mins before he can transform to another alien, then there is an excuse why he can’t immediately change.
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, or even just a *one* minute wait would mean at least in the heat of the moment Ben would have to deal with a fight in a bad form for a minute.
@rafaelconstantino9736
@rafaelconstantino9736 10 ай бұрын
True
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but that way we couldnt have the absolutly hilarious scene of Ben turning into mildly helpful aliens that could definitely help in this episode
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 10 ай бұрын
In Alien force s1 and 2 Ben had a clear goal infront of his eyes so the Omnitrix was just a method he needed to stop the highbreed invasion. It wasn't about how cool the transformations are per se, it was how efficient Ben is with a clear set of 10 aliens.
@justindeliwe8065
@justindeliwe8065 10 ай бұрын
But season 1 and season 2 also proved that Ben will always be OP when he does get the alien he wants. And therefore, nothing including the hybreed would even challenge him
@sunsetvibe1063
@sunsetvibe1063 10 ай бұрын
Ben pressing the Omnitrix several times just to get the right alien is the equivalent of clicking on & off the same KZfaq video several times just to bypass the ads that you have to watch before the actual video starts even if they’re only 15 seconds long.
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 10 ай бұрын
I do that too!
@BBHSN98
@BBHSN98 10 ай бұрын
Like hell I'm giving these corpos my view
@ultimatejager4058
@ultimatejager4058 10 ай бұрын
"Only"
@christiankealey2932
@christiankealey2932 3 ай бұрын
​@@youtubeuniversity3638As do I
@BeastForce141
@BeastForce141 10 ай бұрын
Swampfire’s first appearance in Omniverse. As Kuro said’s: It’s my boy.
@Black_Knight_-BK-
@Black_Knight_-BK- 10 ай бұрын
Wait till he gets till the blossoming episode. Bro's gonna be on cloud 9
@RetRequiem
@RetRequiem 10 ай бұрын
"THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT! THE GOAT!!!"
@furkanudmir550
@furkanudmir550 10 ай бұрын
@@Black_Knight_-BK- naah he hates that version of him
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
@@furkanudmir550that one at least fits the art style even though it’s not Swampfire
@erikpng
@erikpng 10 ай бұрын
​@@axelnilsson5124idk I'd say pre blossomed does fit too. The proportions are tweaked a bit and there's extra detail. I also really like his face. He fits and it's my favorite Swampfire design overall.
@timedragon5492
@timedragon5492 10 ай бұрын
I think the reason why Ben just doesn't do this constantly is because of how adaptive he is. He may not have gotten the alien he originally selected, but if Ben is confident he can make his current alien work then he won't bother changing. He wouldn't want to risk shortening the timer or getting something even worse (which happened twice in this very scene) so he only switches if he knows for an absolute fact that current alien won't work. (Walkatrout is the exception since Ben's stubby little fins are too short to reach the dial so he couldn't switch even if he wanted to.)
@dokbanana
@dokbanana 10 ай бұрын
dude, I made a video talking about the problems with the Dagon saga
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 10 ай бұрын
@@dokbanana going to watch rn
@meltfire6
@meltfire6 10 ай бұрын
what about scenes like in the vilgax fight in alien force where ben was chromastone and definitely should've changed to something else? was he just panicking?
@just_a_tepig3611
@just_a_tepig3611 10 ай бұрын
i like this explanation of walkatrout not reaching the dial, and already agree with hes not gonna be constantly randomly switching unless the situation is dire, he just be ready to fight at a moments notice.
@onepieceking1770
@onepieceking1770 10 ай бұрын
@@meltfire6 something like that but he thought he could beat vilgax using chromastone cus again as ink tank explained ben basically just rolls with the aliens that were chosen even if it's the right or rong ones
@pablosilva6932
@pablosilva6932 10 ай бұрын
I feel this was a problem since AF season 3, if you're gonna have him mistransform get rid of the quickchange, because mistransforming should be a non issue. There are episodes where he mistransforms, fights as the alien for a while, then quickchanges to another alien. I'm like why didn't you change right after becoming the alien you didn't want
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
I feel like it’d work at least once per situation like “the alien isn’t needed *quickchange mistransformation* goes with the new alien regardless because of the battery”
@King_Kitsune
@King_Kitsune 10 ай бұрын
Or if he just doesn't have the time to quick change to another alien, like he mistransforms in the middle or right before a fight
@soundrogue4472
@soundrogue4472 10 ай бұрын
In Alien Force it was energy use being the main issue; less of the issue of timing out for the different forms.
@Dreadwing1000
@Dreadwing1000 10 ай бұрын
Didn’t quick change & Ultimates during the UAF both make him turn back to human sooner?
@soundrogue4472
@soundrogue4472 10 ай бұрын
@@Dreadwing1000That's what I thought as well.
@matthewrooney8834
@matthewrooney8834 10 ай бұрын
I always thought there were different reasons 1. It wastes energy to try again 2. If he did transform again he might get something worse 3. In a fight someone could attack him while transforming But yeah I do agree he could transform more often
@guymannargit
@guymannargit 10 ай бұрын
I kinda believe those same reasons too and sorta find the mistranforming even in OV weirdly entertaining but yeah it is still heavily overused
@matthewrooney8834
@matthewrooney8834 10 ай бұрын
@@guymannargit same funny but maybe roll back, I do find the theory that it’s user error better better in my head
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 10 ай бұрын
Thing is, we see in this episode bens clearly not concerned with wasting energy as he tried four separate times. In certain situations, its actually quite clear that literally any other alien would be more helpful, such as the scene with walkatrout and the worst.
@rafaelconstantino9736
@rafaelconstantino9736 10 ай бұрын
Maybe if ben said every once in a while those reasons or thought in his head it would be better
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 10 ай бұрын
1. The prototrix and the deviant device had less energy and longer cooldowns. His reserves with the 1.0 omnitrix are alot greater now to where he has alot more energy that he can just waste half hazardly. And if he enters cooldown, the cooldown period is so short now that he can afford it even in that worse case senario. 2. Yup, which, when combined with point 1 makes it double risk for 1 reward. 3. No, the omnitrix has a failsafe when not in base form. But they can attack him if he is in cooldown, which can happen in point 1.
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq 10 ай бұрын
I feel like if they REALLY wanted to keep the re-transformation thing, they could have given it the drawback of Ben timing out quicker and quicker with each time he re-transforms. That could explain why he doesn't do it all the time, since more situations would benefit from him being in Alien form for longer, regardless of if it's the "right" one for the situation. It would make re-transforming more of a "last-ditch effort" type of thing instead of just being a "free reroll."
@umapessoa240
@umapessoa240 10 ай бұрын
I think they DID establish that at some point, but it’s still a shit excuse. Like, this very video shows a clip of Walkatrout trying to bust out of a room. Switch to a bigger alien, break the door, turn human to let the watch recharge for a couple minutes, no big deal. Hell, with how impulsive Ben is, it doesn’t even make sense for him to hold back on that.
@skibot9974
@skibot9974 10 ай бұрын
That’s how I assumed it worked prior to this epsiode
@EpicNerdsWithCameras
@EpicNerdsWithCameras 10 ай бұрын
This is actually a canon explanation for why he doesn't re-transform whenever he gets the wrong alien. It's just a shame that the writers don't always remember its existence.
@WackoMcGoose
@WackoMcGoose 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I definitely remember it coming up in UA (when Ben "smacking the watch again" to get the correct alien started being more prominent) that it drained the battery more to do so, doubly so with Going Ultimate afterward. The episode with the tidally-locked freezeflame planet (where he ends the episode with a half-sunburn) made a big point about "Why did you Go Ultimate? Now you have even less battery left!" It's only with Master Control that Ben used to do rapid quick-swapping without worrying about the battery timer, and I think they should have kept it that way...
@lunaitor-uq9hz
@lunaitor-uq9hz 5 ай бұрын
Remember when Ben transformed from Heatblast to Ball Weevil while the timeout sound played? MF transformed out of timeout
@umapessoa240
@umapessoa240 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been patiently waiting for the Swampfire gag to reach its logical conclusion of Kuro screaming it to the heavens. I was not disappointed
@adiele.saint-vil4026
@adiele.saint-vil4026 10 ай бұрын
HECK YEAH!!!!!!
@young_gang7354
@young_gang7354 10 ай бұрын
The way Kuro gets excited by Swampfire is hilarious 😂😂😂 I thought he was gonna say his name like in Alien force or Ultinate Alien 😅
@KraylebStudios
@KraylebStudios 10 ай бұрын
I like how in Omniverse, when Swampfire prepares a fire attack it sounds like methane igniting
@StanHanrahan
@StanHanrahan 10 ай бұрын
drop the entire 'its my boi' remix we need it 🔥🔥
@arkhamtony4469
@arkhamtony4469 10 ай бұрын
2 things I want to say : 1 - I was at first a bit disappointed that this episode didn’t get a full review , mainly because I thought I wouldn’t hear Kuro say ‘ My boy’ when Swampfire appeared. But it is great that at the end he said it . 2- I think the reason Ben doesn’t transform into another alien after mistransforming is because he thinks he can still do it or at least tries to handle the situation as that alien .
@slybone9935
@slybone9935 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't explain situations that he literally does fail though, like transforming into Walkatrout in Fight at the Museum for example
@parry3439
@parry3439 10 ай бұрын
@@slybone9935 yeah he couldve just quick changed into literally anything else
@zszero7964
@zszero7964 10 ай бұрын
@@slybone9935 I thought so too, but someone pointed out, that Walkatrout can't physically reach the dial/watch with his arms/fins, so that checks out
@alvhawk4461
@alvhawk4461 10 ай бұрын
@@zszero7964thats what i thought it was too
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
@@slybone9935 Walkatrout's arms are just to short and stubby to reach the watch.
@nateds7326
@nateds7326 10 ай бұрын
The best part of this episode was Ben just being 110% done from second one. His hydrogen rant is so dang funny, and Yuri Lowenthal's "Oh for the love of God what now!?" Delivery throughout the whole thing just kills me.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 10 ай бұрын
Agreed! The arguement about the atmosphere was actually pretty damn funny. Maybe even the funniest joke in the season.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
the atmosphere conversation is just too good
@nateds7326
@nateds7326 10 ай бұрын
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah the atmosphere exchange is a goated Omniverse bit. Again, Yuri's comedy chops are unmatched.
@erikpng
@erikpng 10 ай бұрын
Pax: Wha-Where is the Screegit? Ben: First start by telling me what happened to it. Pax: I have no idea. I mean, Screegits usually only react like this in a nitrogen-filled environment. But you earthlings breathe oxygen. Ben: Surprise! Earth's atmosphere has nitrogen in it, too, pal. Pax: Well, why didn't you tell me? Ben: Why didn't you ask?! It's not the sort of thing that just comes up in conversation. "Oh, hi. My name's Ben. My atmosphere is rich in nitrogen. How's yours?"
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
​@@erikpng the last line is so godd*mn funny, the delivery is even better
@andrewgin9478
@andrewgin9478 10 ай бұрын
If this is how Kuro reacts to Swampfire's 30-second voiceless cameo, I can't imagine how he'll be when we get to the Charmcaster episode.
@Waqas_Khan02
@Waqas_Khan02 10 ай бұрын
Thats would definitely get a full breakdown
@pogggaming4470
@pogggaming4470 9 ай бұрын
@@Waqas_Khan02and him becoming toxic every time swampfire changes
@rahnal21
@rahnal21 8 ай бұрын
I think Kuro once said in the “Arguing Best Designs” video about how he doesn’t like Blossom Swampfire. It’s not my favorite, but there are parts I like.
@maxistence8742
@maxistence8742 7 ай бұрын
I feel bad about how they treated ov swampfire. 1 voiceless 30 sec cameo in ep 8 The 1 other scene 3 seasons later where he talks to charmcaster Then he turns into something interesting but worse looking over the course of that very episode. Then 1 last appearance 2 seasons later where he gets clowned on by Kevin for a minute. Shouldve had more, but then again. Stinkfly, nanomech, amphibian, Benwolf, gutrot, atomix, toepick, jet ray, chamalien, fast track and many others im too lazy to mention shouldve too. Sadly that's the bad part about more and more aliens
@pumpkinjoe8697
@pumpkinjoe8697 10 ай бұрын
I always assumed that, since retransforming canonically lowers the battery life, Ben only chose to quickly cycle through aliens here because all he thought he had to do at the time was save the train, and that didn't take him more than 30 seconds.
@anga156u1
@anga156u1 10 ай бұрын
I think the point of the scene was to showcase that even if Ben tried to transform into another alien, its not guarantee to work either, he literally turned to Juryrrig, to Gray Matter and even Nanomech before he could get an alien more suited for the situation and even then it was an alien that he didn't want originally. If anything, I think the writers intended for this to be the explication, not a contradiction.
@JdawgCosplay
@JdawgCosplay 10 ай бұрын
I think every time Ben changes transformations it drains the power or decreases to remaining time limit. Azmuth also said in AF after the first interaction with Albeto he said constantly switching would “break” the watch.
@infinitypercival5958
@infinitypercival5958 10 ай бұрын
I don't think Pax acting like a normal person is THAT big of a deal. In fact, I think it fixes a certain plot hole: if most Flouranas are supposed to be downright feral, why doesn't Ben ever act more animalistic as Wildvine?
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
true, plus those Florauna's were there specifically to protect Azmuth's lab, hence them being feral
@kickflip2000
@kickflip2000 10 ай бұрын
the omnitrix probably had DNA from a tamed down Florauna, like how Wildmutt isn't as animalistic as other Vulpimancers
@N.I.A23
@N.I.A23 8 ай бұрын
The only thing I like about Pax is that he proves that wildvine can regenerate like swampfire.
@10yearsspinning
@10yearsspinning 8 ай бұрын
So are Vulpiancers and there's Wuldmutt so they've done this more than once
@theoboangiu7950
@theoboangiu7950 10 ай бұрын
I always chalked it up to consuming energy. I can sort of excuse this scene since all the mistransformations were perhaps bad enough that he couldn't do anything with them and was left with no other choice but dealing with the excessive energy consumption.
@goldlight1322
@goldlight1322 10 ай бұрын
I've sometimes imagined how much more OP Been would be if he could rapid-switch between different aliens in a fight, combining their powers. Like, imagine running full-sprint at someone with XLR8, then changing to Four-Arms and letting the momentum carry that double-fisted punch (kind of like what Mutant Kevin learned to in classic.) I always assumed the reason why this wouldn't be viable is because rapid-changing would deplete the Omntitrix's energy reserves a lot faster... But then this scene comes along and reveals that Ben can change 3-4 times in quick succession seemingly without consequence. So yeah, not only does it ruin the point of mistransforming, it also means that there's no reason Ben can't utilize more than one alien in a fight.
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 10 ай бұрын
I liked this gimmick because it came down to how resourceful and intelligent Ben as a person has to be with a standard set of abilities. In Alien force season 1 and 2 he was wise enough to chose the right alien for the right situation and it added to his maturity.
@vgngolley341
@vgngolley341 10 ай бұрын
Same
@rafaelconstantino9736
@rafaelconstantino9736 10 ай бұрын
While i agree with that , i feel like they should have use that gimmick less , so it is more meaninfull when ben uses the wrong alien in a clever way, my opinion at least
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
same opinion, Master Control felt more rewarding bcz of the same thing as now Ben can get the Alien he wants, then Alien Force introduced this wannabe Master Control called Quick Change which just removed all the tension from the fights and probably why Master Control didn't felt as rewarding in AF as it did in Classic
@oskaro0484
@oskaro0484 6 ай бұрын
​@@theamazingspooderman2697 tf are you waffling about? Quick change was introduced in Ben 10000.
@davidsendy1869
@davidsendy1869 10 ай бұрын
Before this I always assumed that whatever glitch causes the mistransformation also screws with the watches other functions, also that rapid switches drained the battery. If they had Ben try and fail to switch after getting a wrong alien or at the very least have him immediately time out after the switching gag was over that would have saved it and kept the same effect.
@kamarismith9422
@kamarismith9422 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the best way for Omniverse to handle the gag would've been to have Ben mistransform because he can't read the icons on the Omnitrix. With how small the heads of the aliens are on the dial, it would be understandable for Ben to have a hard time telling which alien he's picking. Then, as the show goes along and he gets more used to his new Omnitrix, he'd eventually stop mistransforming as much as he did when he first got it.
@ahlpym
@ahlpym 8 ай бұрын
I have a head-canon explanation for why Ben mistransforms i Omniverse, despite having an Omnitrix that supposedly never mistransforms: It's the touch screen. I think Ben accidentally touches the touch screen when he slams down the core. Ben normally slides his fingers on the touch screen to scroll through the holographic wheel and select his alien. And then where does the touch screen go? It moves to the side of his watch, next to the core. Then, when Ben slaps his hand down on the core, his fingers end up rubbing against the touch screen in the proces. This could effectively move his cursor from the alien he wants to one of its neighbors, and that would explain why he has such a high rate of mistransformation. It's user error.
@batmanbeyond5766
@batmanbeyond5766 10 ай бұрын
this episode litterally shows why Ben doesn't always quick change, there is no confirmation that Ben will get the alien he wants the second time round so he could be spamming the omnitrix like crazy while the villain is killing people
@truegamer_007
@truegamer_007 10 ай бұрын
True. I mean sure clockwork is bad at running but what if he gets NRG, and then grey matter, then the fish one. Also clockwork has temporal powers? Shouldn't he be able to move faster?? Ben didn't think hard enough!
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 10 ай бұрын
​@@truegamer_007Clockwork is a perfect example of Ben's "Attack Attack Attack" mentality ruins the performance of some of his aliens. As I AM pretty sure every other person that Transformed into Clockwork (except Gwen in Inspector 13) had used that alien Better than Ben himself
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
​@@ianr.navahuber2195 he didn't knew Clockwork's powers tho, later when he finds out about his time slowing powers which makes him move fast, he says he didn't knew Clockwork could do that
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
facts
@PPrexor-qk9vq
@PPrexor-qk9vq 10 ай бұрын
He CAN choose the alien he wants, but the writers like to present Ben as an incompetent.
@coconutwater99
@coconutwater99 10 ай бұрын
Shame we lost the full breakdown last episode, appreciate the mini, can’t wait for another full breakdown
@ahaha272
@ahaha272 10 ай бұрын
I think this one was always planned to be a mini one
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 10 ай бұрын
@@ahaha272I don’t blame anyone for getting this over and done with as fast as possible.
@PresidentEgg16
@PresidentEgg16 10 ай бұрын
I remember UA had a line that said that if Ben were to quick change with the Ultimatrix, it’d drain the battery faster. I think Vilgax Attacks had a similar thing in it as well. I’m mentioning this as it’s probably the reason up until now that Ben would quick change at least once
@DJDroz-gh5nt
@DJDroz-gh5nt 10 ай бұрын
I always assumed that in this instance it was an emergency and he _really_ needed the right alien where as usually he either doesn't have time to try again or thinks he can handle it with his current result. I mean, how would Juryrig, Greymatter, or Nanomech save a train? Juryrig maybe could've done a quick fix to the bridge, but that's my best thought.
@ambujvashistha
@ambujvashistha 10 ай бұрын
2:40 that is best Heatblast look right there 🔥
@flarestorm9417
@flarestorm9417 10 ай бұрын
I always assumed the reasons why Ben doesn't just try again when his mistransforms is because he can still get the wrong alien, and because it drains the battery faster. Ben was openly worried about how much time he had left when he used the Omnitrix on that half-ice, half-fire planet, because his space suit wouldn't come back. Then there was the time where he was trapped in the Ultimatrix, where-in he tried making quick transformations to drain the battery faster. And I remember Azmuth saying that too many quick transformations breaks the Omnitrix (he said something to this effect in the Albedo introduction episode), though that was only harped on in the Vilgax Attacks game to explain why Ben loses most of his aliens after the first world. I think they really needed to put more emphasis on how much battery the alien-to-alien transform drains. They should've made it far more dire for Ben to just jump from one alien form to the next like that, so that he's more encouraged to work with what he gets. I suppose there's some agency with it too (e.g., if someone's in immediate danger he can't just risk cycling through 3+ more unhelpful aliens), but I don't recall that being enforced much in the show. I really think they should've brought back the low-power indicator from the original series too, especially since the Ultimatrix was shown to have one in the video games episode.
@stm7810
@stm7810 9 ай бұрын
great explanation, also yes I love and miss the red watch when it can't be used and the beeping, it was great, really useful feature.
@ak9k472
@ak9k472 10 ай бұрын
5:34 I knew this was coming the second Swampfire is shown on screen
@AlexandruCatrina-bk6jg
@AlexandruCatrina-bk6jg 9 ай бұрын
Oh here we go
@kinettleyt5945
@kinettleyt5945 10 ай бұрын
I always liked the idea that Every swap actually takes away from the omnitrix’s timer, so that’s why Ben doesn’t change that much, so he has more time just in case he needs it in a fight.
@AmitCinematicUniverse
@AmitCinematicUniverse 10 ай бұрын
This is why I consider the fanfiction "Ben 10: Unlimited" more canon than Omniverse. In that fanfiction, Ben only gets the wrong alien because of a stated glitch, it barely ever happens, he still shows capabilities with the wrong alien, and when the alien is useless in that situation, he turns into the right alien as soon as possible. Also, he gets Master Control later, so it stops being an issue.
@Not-Kirbo2
@Not-Kirbo2 10 ай бұрын
I honestly think that the reason ben doesn't just give it another switch everytime is because it'll possibly waste energy or make the time limit shorter remember ben could quick switch In ailen force however it would make the time limit shorter the more he did
@The_Phantasm
@The_Phantasm 10 ай бұрын
By the time the classic series ended I was already kind of sick of it and was more than ready for it to go away. I never missed it and when it came back I just wanted it to end which sadly it never did.
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 10 ай бұрын
The show or of mistransforming?
@The_Phantasm
@The_Phantasm 10 ай бұрын
​@@Hadeks_MarowThe mistransforming
@etetgg1364
@etetgg1364 10 ай бұрын
I fully agree. The gimmick in UAF was already crossing the line, and in Omniverse? No words, I mean, how many times can you have Ben actively curse the watch for mistransforming him?
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 10 ай бұрын
@@etetgg1364Ben doesnt even believe the watch will give him the right alien, it makes the omnitrix feel more like a useless toy than the most powerful piece of technology in the known universe
@etetgg1364
@etetgg1364 10 ай бұрын
@LucyWest370 Exactly, Ben, having trouble with the Omnitirix, every single episode of every series doesn't help to convince how powerful it is. There were different reasons for the mistransformations each time, but it doesn't make it a different thing. It's like the Omnitrix never worked and never will. By Omnitrix I feel like we all agree Ben has had enough of a learning curve, the new Omnitrix should've just been optimised (wait.. why DOES the mistransformation happen within the new permanent Omnitrix again? I forgot by now..).
@giboit.
@giboit. 10 ай бұрын
My guess is that each transformation reduces the time limit/energy of the omnitrix even further. And that's why Ben tends to not change alien when he misstransforms. Also, most of the time the incorrect alien that Ben gets tends to work for the tasks in hand. However the three small aliens that Ben got (before turning into something decent enough to stop a giant monster) weren't good enough for the fight so that would explain why he decided to change alien three times in this specific battle.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
your guess is correct, several quick changes even radiate some energy that can be felt by Azmuth from Galvan Prime
@PPrexor-qk9vq
@PPrexor-qk9vq 10 ай бұрын
Whampire, in the dessert
@giboit.
@giboit. 10 ай бұрын
@@PPrexor-qk9vq I'm pretty sure he was too busy feeling extreme pain to think clearly in that scene. And later on we see Max making him change alien.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
​@@PPrexor-qk9vq Whampire actually doesn't die from the sun, my guess is that Whampire's mind controlling bats could penetrate that villain in that episode's energy sphere and hence Omnitrix gave Ben Whampire
@HiperPivociarz
@HiperPivociarz 10 ай бұрын
I'd argue this scene shows exactly why Ben DOESN'T switch. He had to go through several aliens to get something remotely useful. The more aliens Ben gets, the more it becomes a problem. Like, what are the odds that the alien he wants will be the next one in the sequence? Plus I think in Omniverse it's still a factor that the more he switches the less time he has.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
u are the second person I saw who got the point why Ben doesn't switch, plus Ben has like 72 aliens now
@Lulu-ew7oh
@Lulu-ew7oh 10 ай бұрын
From the looks of alien force and ultimate he appears to have to mental control of it to an extent
@HiperPivociarz
@HiperPivociarz 10 ай бұрын
@@Lulu-ew7oh Which I think is a bad feature cause it undermines the point of the dial, and Omnitrix's mechanics.
@Lulu-ew7oh
@Lulu-ew7oh 10 ай бұрын
@@HiperPivociarz not really it just a natural progression of Ben abilities with the watch
@HiperPivociarz
@HiperPivociarz 10 ай бұрын
@@Lulu-ew7oh I feel my argument that the dial becomes useless when Ben can change at will is still valid. And I also personally think it's not really "natural". If we look at it from a different perspective, let's say I draw with a graphic tablet. My skill progression then wouldn't be learning to move the stylus with my mind, it would be to draw better.
@aaronolson6736
@aaronolson6736 10 ай бұрын
Ben is a very adaptive person, the gag was done using his smallest and smartest (also tech-reliant) aliens as a giant monster isn't the time for any of them. Upgrade and Brainstorm could maybe have done it despite being tech-reliant and hyper intelligent(also electokinesis/electromagnesis) respectively and because of that they weren't part of this. They could have done a bit more with Hokestar, he knew exactly what he was doing, how to properly handle the screegit, and was even able to offer Ben some insight on how to utilize Blox in the moment. Hokestar seems like someone who in all his travelling learned a fair amount about most races and species and could have been a valuable resource in the future.
@maxuni6651
@maxuni6651 10 ай бұрын
I like the transformation gag, its been a mistransformation while having ability to change from alien to aliens been a contradiction that existed in much more serious story parts than this episode.
@just8or494
@just8or494 10 ай бұрын
It's like the omnitrix is forcing him to think creatively instead of brute forcing his way through things.
@scarletsabre8383
@scarletsabre8383 10 ай бұрын
They could have easily fixed that scene by having Ben time out earlier than he expected due to using multiple transformations in succession draining the battery, meaning that while Ben COULD always try again, even at random, it had a downside and it might be riskier than just working with what he has. Personally the "Randomiser function activated" scene is a lot more frustrating for me
@valydendor4472
@valydendor4472 10 ай бұрын
Why was that function even a thing? Did Azmuth want to prank Ben or something?
@scarletsabre8383
@scarletsabre8383 10 ай бұрын
@@valydendor4472The only excuse I can think of was something along the lines of the original "made the Omnitrix to allow other beings to get closer" idea, so you would randomly pick an alien from the full one million plus playlist and learn what it's like to be them... Of course it's still stupid, but that's literally the only reason I can think of that function existing
@TheLordTash
@TheLordTash 10 ай бұрын
​@@valydendor4472 Probably a failsafe for cases where someone gets a remote control to the omnitrix and tries to turn him into Rath to mind control him. Although Ben didn't think to use it at the time.
@anishsingh2848
@anishsingh2848 10 ай бұрын
Gotta say I kinda like Pax as a Flourana who is so different from the rest of his species that he is likely an outcast and got thrown out as well I think his activist nature was a contributor to his personality being so different to more vicious members of his species
@Theokal3
@Theokal3 10 ай бұрын
yeah but thing is, that doesn't really work. Like Florauna weren't just aggressive, they behaved like animals or predators. THat's like having a cat that is intelligent and dresses up in a world where all cats featured so far acted like normal cats, it's a bit jarring.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 10 ай бұрын
@@Theokal3well we know OV lore only allows ben to transform into aliens that sentient given what they day about the nemetrix. Just like with vulpimsncers snd loboans just can act feral but are mostly chill when ben becomes one. It's possible thr ones we saw in omnitrix were some isolated tribe of some kind.
@anishsingh2848
@anishsingh2848 10 ай бұрын
@@Theokal3 They absolutely are Sentient as Omnitrix cannot sample DNAs from species which are not sentient
@Rose-yx6jq
@Rose-yx6jq 10 ай бұрын
I did love Swampfire before but you're "it's my boy" gag whenever he pops up prior to the blooming phase has been quite enjoyable. Humungousaur is my favorite out of the 10 tho. But I have been getting a bit more appreciation for Swampfire.
@chrishodgson1254
@chrishodgson1254 10 ай бұрын
I do get why Ben doesn't try and transform when he doesn't get the aliens he wants. I've always assumed that switching between aliens, outside of master control, uses a lot of power. So whilst he'd have maybe a better alien, he might have less time as said alien. Also, I get the feeling there's a mental component to the in alien transformations. Ben needs to focus in order to do it. He could focus when he was just standing there, even though a train was about to crash, but he probably couldn't focus when he's getting chased by a monster or shot at. Just my theory, feel free to not agree.
@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337
@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 9 ай бұрын
My main rationalization for Pax being so weird is that Florauna may just have different tribes and cultures than others. So one tribe may be extremely territorial and animalistic while another may be more friendly and intelligent
@N.I.A23
@N.I.A23 6 ай бұрын
Maybe those were mentally ill?? Or maybe they had space plant equivalence of rabies??
@gamejitzu
@gamejitzu 10 ай бұрын
I never questioned spamming transformations, the idea was there since he fought Albedo. But ever since then I wondered why Ben didn't re-roll the Omnitrix more often. So when he actually does in OV I was like "oh he finally tried this again"
@christianparrish3292
@christianparrish3292 10 ай бұрын
5:47 hahaha. Kuro is such a goof ball.
@AlexandruCatrina-bk6jg
@AlexandruCatrina-bk6jg 9 ай бұрын
Oh boy here we go 3 2 1 Cover your ears!
@artist-gj
@artist-gj 10 ай бұрын
I feel often times when Ben mistransforms, he has a kinda "fuck it we ballin" attitude, like even if he whines he'll make it work. Tho there are definitely times where getting the wrong alien isn't just mildly annoying but actively detrimental, and is the reason he lost an encounter, so he should be more willing to spin that dial again
@EnzoDraws
@EnzoDraws 10 ай бұрын
"Why actively suffer when you don't have to?" - my therapist when I CHOOSE to go on Twitter every single day
@MrWhatdafuBOOM
@MrWhatdafuBOOM Ай бұрын
Two things I would've changed about the quick-change feature: 1. When directly switching between aliens (without access to master control), it should take away a certain amount of the total time available in the transformed state in exchange. Say Ben turns into an alien for whatever heroing business, he'd have 10 total minutes as that alien, but 2 minutes in, with 8 minutes now left, he realizes a change of form is required and slaps the dial again to turn into another alien. This instantly drops the remaining time from 8 minutes to 5 minutes, adding another element of tension in exchange for an additional form. I'd like to see a scene where Ben keeps trying to get the alien he wants by force via quick-change like in this episode, but ultimately runs out the timer, ends up in recharge mode and is stuck having to help as just himself. This could be a good indicator to not get too greedy while quick-changing. 2. Quick-change should ALWAYS be random. A controlled quick-change feature makes the iconic dial for selection obsolete. Being in human form while selecting an alien should have its own benefit by having access to the selection screen. That way, the Omnitrix can always initially give Ben the alien he actually wants, but it can still give him an unfitting alien for the situation, but only whenever Ben is willing to take that gamble by using the quick-change. Like this, we can have a consistently reliable Omnitrix for whenever Ben uses it in his regular state, while also having the moments of Ben improvising by changing directly between aliens.
@kamijounotouma5596
@kamijounotouma5596 10 ай бұрын
1. Mid-transforming makes him change back faster. 2. There's no guarantee that he'll get the right alien anyway even if he did try to change again, so trying to adapt is much better. 3. Ben still doesn't understand the control of the new Omnitrix. 4. There are a few specific Situations where you just need to change, because the alien you got is 100% useless. Like what does Grey Matter gonna do to a moving train? 5. It didn't ruin the og mistransformations though, since that Ben still doesn't know how to quick change. 6. Soem of his enemies wont just let him. 7. Some aliens cant midchange (Like Walkatrout who I'm pretty sure cant even touch the Omnitrix dial) 8. I agree that the mistransformation gag is overused. 9. In this episode, he rapid change because he only need to be alien for a few seconds, and he's only need to stop a little problem. So in this instance, he don't care about the time out.
@johny1220
@johny1220 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Ben 10 was always inconsistent with how Ben could transform man. You had some scenes in Alien Force where he could switch to another alien without even having to touch the Omnitrix, to so many other scenes where he just has to deal with who he has. Kinda wish they stayed consistent with what they wanted to do with it lol..
@ParallaxMotive
@ParallaxMotive 10 ай бұрын
I think it would’ve been better if they kept the wrong alien mechanic, but stopped having Ben mention it and instead had him just accept and we get to see him visibly improvise in the scene, or being disoriented because he was expecting to adapt to one alien’s anatomy but became a completely different one.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
he does improvise, in Galactic Monsters arc he mistransforms into Crashopper while fighting Kthulu (one of the member of Snare-Oh's species) and then he uses the surrounding to his advantage to tie him up instead and defeat him that's why I prefer mistransformation, allows Ben to be more creative
@ParallaxMotive
@ParallaxMotive 10 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 I think it forces creativity too. But I don’t like that they try to make a gag out of it. I wish that we could see Ben have to adapt to his different transformation instead of just being told “aw man not repticilus” every time.
@TiagoTiagoT
@TiagoTiagoT 9 ай бұрын
I guess it could be interpreted as Ben being pathologically stubborn, rigid thinking to some extent; he feels he must stick with what the Omnitrix gives him. Like maybe he got conditioned by all the times mistransformations lead to unexpected benefits all the way back since he was just 10 years old; or he doesn't wanna fully admit he's not skilled enough to handle performing as a different alien; or maybe it's simply him getting tunnel vision during battles, focusing on the battle itself and not as much on thinking of alternative strategies. I would have to look back at all the mistransformations that he stuck with versus the ones he gave a retry; but perhaps it could be something that could be explained based on the subtle personality tweaks some species have on him; maybe some hyperfan like Kuro might have the spreadsheet needed to evaluate this hypothesis...
@ssjseifer
@ssjseifer 9 ай бұрын
In classic, he couldn't change again and was locked in for a random duration. Azimuth says something that suggests it would have been more reliable to carefully adjust the dial and press the button instead of slapping it which might randomize the dial or duration settings.
@trevincarroll5978
@trevincarroll5978 10 ай бұрын
They made it work in Alien Force by explaining that every time he transforms repeatedly to different aliens drains power more quickly, but then they seem to write out the consequences after that episode
@RomaroBrandon
@RomaroBrandon 10 ай бұрын
2:10 "You realize that many times billions of lives depends on your success Ben". 5 seconds later. "I wouldn't say I'm being too hard". That previous critic says otherwise. Seriously dude he transformed 4 times before settling on an alien he wanted to use, and it's been stated in why he gets the wrong alien in both the reboot and classic-omniverse. If he hits the watch hard enough it'll choose for him, which is mostly likely what he did when transforming from Jury Rigg to Grey Matter to Nanomech to Bloxxs.
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 7 ай бұрын
It’s the time he is an alien that is determined by how hard he smacks the dial
@shelbybayer200
@shelbybayer200 10 ай бұрын
In Omniverse I don't think it's really Mistransformation The Omnitrix is just messing with him at that point after all we established there is an Ai on board the Omnitrix meaning it probably is not happy with him SLAMMING the Interface down all the time, or in cases he's practically being an idiot at times until someone says. "You know you can transform again"
@blakeetter280
@blakeetter280 10 ай бұрын
My understanding was that transforming from one alien to the next takes a lot of battery and that’s why Ben doesn’t do it, he doesn’t know if he’ll be able to spare the time. However the omnitrix has lost its cooldown time and it’s time limit largely so I don’t really think either is still a huge deal. I don’t know if that’s just the writers ignoring it or the watch actually not doing that anymore but either way they could have gotten away with the joke if they kept the omnitrix more consistent and the rules more well known.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
I mean we can see quick changing doesn't guarantee that you'll get the alien you want so you could likely get something worse multiple times unlike with master control.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
​@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 even back in UA that was the case, when Ben wanted Chromastone but got Swampfire instead through Quick Change (in that video game episode)
@uniivxrs6893
@uniivxrs6893 10 ай бұрын
it's understandable but at the same time it was also shown that even if he can keep transforming, it'll drain the omnitrix battery and there's still a chance that he'll get the wrong alien again (Jury Rigg > Grey Matter > Nanomech)
@amirshlomolavan
@amirshlomolavan 8 ай бұрын
In UAF it has more meaning than this, as changing a transformation shortens the detransformation time which was important especially in the chase for the map of infinity
@muckytheimp867
@muckytheimp867 10 ай бұрын
Kuro being a Swampfire stan actively will always be a bliss to see
@jorgehuertas3995
@jorgehuertas3995 10 ай бұрын
So, devils advocate explanation. Changing alien drains a lot of the battery so using it is unadvised since one more minute with the wrong alien is better odds. In that scene Ben was so fed up that decided to play the odds instead of playing it safe and adapting.
@pokemontrainerduane1
@pokemontrainerduane1 10 ай бұрын
I may be one of the few people who does re-watch this episode, mainly due to Grey Matter and Amphibian getting more screen time. Seriously, Ben just has an electric alien that can move as a pure form of electricity and read minds and we barely get any screen time with him in the series
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
maybe bcz reading minds requires some time like how becoming Clockwork didn't just automatically gave him all the powers that he uses later in OV like slowing time to appear to run fast
@stm7810
@stm7810 9 ай бұрын
simple problem with mind reading, tell me 1 person he'd want to read the mind of, both in terms of the ethics that reading a persons mind is an invasion of privacy you should never do to good people and because reading the mind of an enemy exposes you to their internally sound reasoning to want you dead, something that could lead to very dark thoughts and PTSD.
@pokemontrainerduane1
@pokemontrainerduane1 9 ай бұрын
@@stm7810 Ben doesn’t have a problem with reading minds. Hello, look at any of the scenes where he uses Pesky Dust to cause someone to sleep and enter their dreams for information
@adrianovieiramiranda6528
@adrianovieiramiranda6528 10 ай бұрын
Man the quick breakdowns are really fun, Kuro has to be very creative in how to say everything in a short time
@pabloiriqui6128
@pabloiriqui6128 10 ай бұрын
Ok ok correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure Azmuth told Ben, I think back in alien force, that changing transformations damaged or made the Omnitrix run out of power quicker. He said it like it was wasting unnecessary energy in doing it or something along those lines. So I would like them to at least be clear with that. Maybe Ben switches three or four times and then it changes him back to human.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
he did he said it to albedo in season 1 of AF and Ben in season 2.
@RomaroBrandon
@RomaroBrandon 10 ай бұрын
Why would Ben ever try to change aliens if he didn't get the one he wanted if when the Omnitrix had a 10 minute time limit? It's not like changing from one alien to another resets the timer.
@ultimatex1334
@ultimatex1334 10 ай бұрын
Also shoutouts to the fact that Ben actively tried to go Fasttrack twice in this episode.
@arkhamtony4469
@arkhamtony4469 10 ай бұрын
Wasn’t it once ?
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
Just because the fans dislike Fasttrack doesn’t mean Ben himself does
@venom_spy437
@venom_spy437 10 ай бұрын
I dunno, I liked this. And when I first saw transformation from alien to alien in AF, I thought that he can always transform from alien to alien. Even though his transform time is shortening due to transformation between aliens. And I like timedragon5492`s comment, to me it seems to make sense.
@speedblitzz77
@speedblitzz77 10 ай бұрын
I feel like in situations that ben is strapped for time it wouldn't make sense to play roulette with the Omnitrix but other than that he should have plenty of time to shuffle until he gets a usable alien
@phantomV630
@phantomV630 10 ай бұрын
He have it 10,000 alien that point so when they keep pressing the button over and over again is still a big guess
@kaylaturnis9486
@kaylaturnis9486 10 ай бұрын
What I do miss in the Ben 10 series is Ben yelling out the alien's names like Humongousaur, Big Chill, Echo Echo, Swampfire, etc. 😭😭😭
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
The name yelling got hella annoying tbh.
@blakethebeast3174
@blakethebeast3174 10 ай бұрын
"IT's mah BOIIIIIIIIII!!!" is how I feel whenever BlitzWolfer shows up. Each their own. Except for the score for the episode, totally agree. What even was the deal with Hokestar's design? He looks like he'd be in one of the more bizarre Cartoon Network shows like Chowder or Gumball.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
I think that's the point
@blakethebeast3174
@blakethebeast3174 10 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 True, and that's sad. Hokestar is just sad all around, if we needed an alien huckster why not an existing species like Jury Rigg's? A fast talking Gremlin would've been perfect.
@danielcurren2119
@danielcurren2119 10 ай бұрын
I thought he was originally locked from switching early on and it was only when he got the true omniverse, he got the ability to switch freely
@infamouskano
@infamouskano 10 ай бұрын
Ben falling out of his transformations reminds me of the live action movies
@Achieme
@Achieme 10 ай бұрын
Personally I enjoy writing characters (particularly superhero characters) and when you introduce powers or create a power system with limitations you have to keep it consistent as you possibly can because when that character overcomes that obstacle it shouldn't be a problem anymore. But now they're toying with the limitations and doing that is not only going to confuse audiences it's going to be difficult for people to take the character and story seriously. NGL I looked passed the many times ben turns to the wrong alien when he could've turn to an alien by slapping the Omnitrix. When Ben got his new Omnitrix I thought each Omnitrix has the same limitations where he can't just slap the Omnitrix if he gets the wrong alien
@kickflip2000
@kickflip2000 10 ай бұрын
agreed, i feel like they should have come up with new limitations for Ben that represent his growth as a hero
@marqusmedina5983
@marqusmedina5983 10 ай бұрын
1:31 this has been a thing since alien force. The writers just tend to forget. Apart from video games and the map of infinity
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 7 ай бұрын
But at least in UAF they do occasionally remember that Ben can quick change even if he does it less times than he should while Omniverse does it for at least 3 episodes and the rest of times he just accepts it
@megabladechronicles962
@megabladechronicles962 10 ай бұрын
I always liked Hokestar, the idea of a snake oil salesman that isn't a bad guy and has products that actually work is funny to me
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
Same.
@thebeginster
@thebeginster 6 ай бұрын
Best I can say is that quick changing doesn't always work. He can still do it but like in this episode, Ben could still get the wrong alien and would have to cycle through his aliens until he gets the right alien. Pressing the dial in alien functions the same as in human so slamming it could randomize the alien. Which is why he abandons doing it for the most part. So instead of going through that, he prefers to adapt to the one he originally got. There's also the quicker cooldown (although even after detransforming Ben sometimes can transform again) and the fact it's bad for the omnitrix. But I don't know how to explain how Ben can also switch aliens without even touching the omnitix in OV since he doesn't have master control.
@Popnox318
@Popnox318 10 ай бұрын
I think Ben is scared of transforming into someone worse. At that train scene, I don't think those aliens could really do anything. That's just what I think.
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
Jury Rigg could do it Grey Matter and Nanomech can’t though
@Popnox318
@Popnox318 10 ай бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 Yeah, but how could he get up there.
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
@@Popnox318 he could probably make a contraption that could elevate the railway
@jiteshritesh1867
@jiteshritesh1867 10 ай бұрын
I don't know but i have seen few omniverse episodes where he selects the alien he wants and gets it but he shouts out the wrong alien name and blames the omnitrix for giving a wrong alien. I don't know its dumb or what but he doesn't understand the face design of aliens( on the holographic disc type user interface when selecting aliens) or maybe uses in a hurry bcoz of heat of the moment. Not like alien force where he gets a full hologram of aliens, but now he gets only simple/confusing bcoz he has a lot of aliens and coudn't figure out which one is different face design of aliens.
@lukyshot248
@lukyshot248 10 ай бұрын
My personal explanation is that changing aliens without the Master Control uses up a lot of the energy it uses to keep you transformed. And every time he doesn’t use it is because he feels like he needs the extra time. It’s not perfect, (not by a long shot), but it helps stuff like this not bother me while watching an episode.
@shotenno
@shotenno 10 ай бұрын
I always thought if Ben retransforms, the Omnitrix loses Energy which makes him transform back to Ben faster
@BuzzPrincess12
@BuzzPrincess12 10 ай бұрын
That scene is really strange too since I think Juririgg would've been kind of useful in that scene
@stm7810
@stm7810 9 ай бұрын
in theory yes, in practice he has no way to reach the track for repairs.
@beastvg123
@beastvg123 10 ай бұрын
I actually like Pax, his heart is in the right place. Fun example of a well meaning character who makes big mistakes. He could have been a different kind of alien, but having a Flouranan hippie was a fun subversion imo.
@RiverShock
@RiverShock 10 ай бұрын
I don't especially like Pax (especially due to the amount of screen time he gets), but I also don't think his portrayal differing from others of his species is even remotely odd. Individuals have differing personalities. Heck, you can see that with even more improbable species like the Highbreed or the Nanochips. I cannot think of a single species that is portrayed as basically identical to one another. Obviously this is not directly in relation to what you said (just a tangent off it), but more a response to the video.
@stm7810
@stm7810 9 ай бұрын
@@RiverShock Yes, Ben 10 does a lot of tropes but 1 I'm glad it subverts is planet of the hats. sure a species might have 1 culture that's mentioned but they still always have diverse members, including a humungasaur actor, normal good people on Vilgaxia etc.
@aspinnycracker
@aspinnycracker 10 ай бұрын
As Ben says, whats the point of the selection dial if it mis transforms him anyway
@flyingfist4203
@flyingfist4203 10 ай бұрын
With a scene like that, I thought this was the episode where the omnitrix got hacked, but no, I'm misremembering this as the episode where Ben gets stuck as the worst and Rook gets stuck as walkatrout due to outside interference.
@user-ce5gs5eq3u
@user-ce5gs5eq3u 10 ай бұрын
I don't see why the Breakdowns are being reduced to a five minute wrap-up. I understand that the Ink Tank have other projects, such as 5YL, but I have always preferred quality over quantity. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for a real breakdown (which we haven't had for a month, but we can have fanfiction Albedo stories for some reason), but instead ended up getting two five minute videos? I feel that they could just wait a little bit longer and gave us some more quality videos than quantity. Since they're doing a video every two weeks now, they can just do one breakdown a month, and another video for whatever else. That's just my two-bits, and my own personal opinion.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
true, also now that I see it, Omniverse is the last thing Kuro is gonna react to and now I don't want this reaction spree to end, wish I could go back in time and tell Kuro not to do quick reviews and instead just take as much time as needed for his breakdowns
@user-ce5gs5eq3u
@user-ce5gs5eq3u 10 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Honestly, if Kuro spends more time analyzing the Reboot than Omniverse, I think that is highway robbery (especially since some people are paying money on Patreon for this service). I would honestly rather Kuro just not analyze these episodes than just do a recap, because that just seems kind of lazy to me.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
is he gonna analyze Reboot episodes? I thought he was only gonna analyze the Reboot movies
@user-ce5gs5eq3u
@user-ce5gs5eq3u 10 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 I'm not sure. I assumed he was going to, but I don't know what the breakdown plan is, especially when most of them has been five minute breakdowns after Alien Force Season 2, which has been vastly disappointing.
@jennisgurung2760
@jennisgurung2760 10 ай бұрын
Last episode was meant to be a full breakdown but Kuro lost the footage and was turned into a short breakdown
@Ug-lordetheunmovable
@Ug-lordetheunmovable 10 ай бұрын
4:50 did they animate twomad's meme fall with the electric monkey?
@schizoalin
@schizoalin 10 ай бұрын
Goodnight girl, I see you tomorrow
@souichutakehamr5797
@souichutakehamr5797 10 ай бұрын
I may have a semi decent explanation as to why ben doesn't utilize the quick change feature more effectively. First off he likely couldn't quick change in os as it seemed to be a recalibrated an onward feature. In Af he did utilize it well in a fight with Darkstar, but afterward said that it "drained the battery" after so many rapid changes. This would probably lead ben to only use it in dire situations and would stay in one form due to his experience improvising in os, believing that gwen or kevin could help out and fix the situation and thus use the transformation later,... or because hes cocky in later af. Most of this carries over into ua with just a general addition of ben being too focused in a battle to think to change. In ov a lot of these characteristics carry over. A noticeable addition though is that ben later on admits that he gets used to the omnitrix not giving the correct alien, and started to believe that it knew better than him. So you could say that over the show he was starting to believe in the omnitrix's decision more and stopped fighting against it with the quick change. Those are my best guesses as to why he wouldn't just quick change again. Admittedly it isn't that good of an excuse but the writers haven't really given a better one.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
I can agree with this to an extent.
@souichutakehamr5797
@souichutakehamr5797 10 ай бұрын
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Good enough for me! : D
@Linkwilldestroyyou
@Linkwilldestroyyou 10 ай бұрын
yea but in that omniverse scene he had to stop a train. which is why he couldnt work with jerry rig or greymatter and neither nanomech, also im pretty sure retrying consumes energy so maybe ben doesnt try more aliens because its gonna make him lose time of being an alien
@duncananderson2113
@duncananderson2113 10 ай бұрын
Aside from the gag, I liked this episode, Hoakstar is a pretty fun character as he's just doing his own thing but Ben finds himself getting involved. Its some fun character dynamics,Pax the Flourana does feel like the writers taking jabs at Hippies. Overall I do like light hearted episodes, I know not many like filler but I think its a nice change of pace to have something not entirely connected to the major arc.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
that fight with Sunder at the start is dope too and I like his OV designs more cuz more details
@duncananderson2113
@duncananderson2113 10 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Yeah same here
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
​@@duncananderson2113 and the reason why I called the fight at the start dope bcz Ben prioritizes saving a kid, which is what a superhero does while also kicking Sunder's a$$, the animation is fire too, I think Kuro just let his intrusive thoughts win during this breakdown
@duncananderson2113
@duncananderson2113 10 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Yeah true, but this is still a fun movie
@christianparrish3292
@christianparrish3292 10 ай бұрын
Aw man. I wanted this as a full breakdown.
@bobbyahmad5197
@bobbyahmad5197 10 ай бұрын
Me too
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 10 ай бұрын
Hey, its you! Hi!
@user-dg7fn3ih1s
@user-dg7fn3ih1s 10 ай бұрын
Me too
@Mono_Nerd_Production
@Mono_Nerd_Production 10 ай бұрын
Remember that gag in classic where ben transformed into 10 of his aliens to try and beat the weird cult bomb thing on earth but still times out in between Could of just done that-
@jazzbee9857
@jazzbee9857 10 ай бұрын
Whilst it's definitely the most egregious example of Ben being able to change aliens after mistransforming, in the end it's only "comedically" exaggerating what has previously been introduced and was never properly resolved. Whilst he'll obviously continue to ignore the ability to transform into something more appropriate, I think the blame really should mostly be directed at AUF for reintroducing this ability in the first place, although Omniverse definitely could (and should) have removed the ability if they really wanted to.
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 10 ай бұрын
The thing is at the very least in previous episodes when he mistransformed he stuck with it. In this episode he chooses different aliens, making basically every time when he mistransforms in this series basically worthless as he could be literally anything else
@rennythespaceguy7285
@rennythespaceguy7285 10 ай бұрын
​@@LucyWest370well no, the video points out UAF did this several times too, this episode has the most obvious example but this has been an issue pretty much since they reintroduced mistransformations
@parry3439
@parry3439 10 ай бұрын
@@LucyWest370 if you understood it correctly, then you should be blamimg AF for introducing this feature, because at any point in UAF he couldve just quick changed whenever he wanted. This scene in omniverse literally criticizes that plot hole.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 10 ай бұрын
​@@parry3439 true
@LucyWest370
@LucyWest370 10 ай бұрын
@@parry3439 this scene in Omniverse isnt criticizing a plothole, its making a new one. An example is the scene with walkatrout and the door, if ben literally just tried again he would have a 1 in 86 chance of getting an alien that would actually be useful in that situation (the one useless alien being the worst) and have a possibility of opening that door. Every subsequent episode of Omniverse will continue to double down on this plothole with aggressively annoying mistransformations when if they really cared that much they couldve just nixed the quick transformation feature altogether.
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
5:10 this makes me worried for the importance of Store 23
@suparockr
@suparockr 10 ай бұрын
The one thing I like about the episode is Pax screwing up his Earth research by not realizing the atmosphere was mostly Nitrogen because humans breathed Oxygen.
@Snanthx
@Snanthx 10 ай бұрын
I hated this gag after classic. I feel like older Ben in UAF wasn’t terrible with it but would wait til a huge moment. Omniverse just does it way too much and he’s supposed so have the completed omnitrix, so it shouldn’t do that, then we find out it’s because the way Ben is hitting the button. Then he never fixed doing it and still mistranforms
@cv7368
@cv7368 10 ай бұрын
I unironically love the idea of an eco-warrior flauronis It makes sense for the species and for not every member of that species to simultaneously be good at fighting or even that smart
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 10 ай бұрын
It’s a pity then that this moron doesn’t know when to pick his battles.
@tharinduwalpita4264
@tharinduwalpita4264 10 ай бұрын
One of the many (few) moments of the og version of swampfire in omniverse before.....you know....
@axelnilsson5124
@axelnilsson5124 10 ай бұрын
This and the first time he becomes him in Charmed, I’m Sure are the only moments he is OG Swampfire
@askgoverntale2298
@askgoverntale2298 10 ай бұрын
I may be making this up, but I feel like I remember hearing that when Ben does a transformation redo, his time is cut in half. Granted, the time is randomized in Omniverse because he keeps whacking the Omnitrix, but he didn't know that at that point, so him continuously retransforming was kind of a heat-of-the-moment thing, even though it would have taken his time from 20 minutes to 2 minutes 30 seconds
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 10 ай бұрын
I mean this happened in Season 3 of AF too It's just a waste of energy for something it might not even work, each time he quick changes he wastes energy (as shown in season 2 of Alien Force) so at that point it's better to make do with what you have rather than just try again until you get a wrong alien.
@Tylerr_Creative
@Tylerr_Creative 9 ай бұрын
I just realized you could take the transformation stuff as a secret joke ONTOP of the joke: As stated by many comments Jury Rigg can fix the bridge but Ben doesn't understand that instead just wanting something that can obviously help instead of something needs more thinking. So the Omnitrix AI realizing the issue is that Ben is not smart enough to understand why Jury Rigg was the best solution has soooo it gives him his smart alien to make it clear to him Greymatter....the problem is it just makes him more annoyed since he's to focused on getting lame aliens. I feel while they could've used Brainstorm it's clear Brainstorm's intelligence is better for combat situations as the series shows later and Greymatter is more of Ben's problem solving alien for general problems. Then going into Nanomech I just assumed the AI was trying to be funny since Ben couldn't understand the solutions it gave it before. I feel even if its not a real character the AI could be moody and potentially punk Ben especially if it actually comes up with a solution and Ben just shoots it down in a really rude manor. Imo I enjoy this interpretation of the scene since in a way it adds reason why he'd get his 3 smallest aliens out of nowhere.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 9 ай бұрын
I agree.
@Waqas_Khan02
@Waqas_Khan02 10 ай бұрын
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