Average CGI fight fan Vs Average "Theseus' ship" philosophy enjoyer

Anyway better than dc's cgi shits

@@Rvndreji1998 here comes the "marvel is superior" fan 🙄

@@randoviewer9363 i mean... dc made batman v superman so...

they also chose jared leto as the joker......................

😂

I think, therefore I _skadoosh._

Chili dogs

Yes they are

I understood that reference

It do be like that sometimes

Lolol

Ya , I was wondering if one of them stayed pass through, how the other would kill the other

White vision got talk-no-justu'd

I mean they had a pretty sick brawl before this

That’s what happens when the unstopable force meets the unmoveable object. They both surrender.

stfu

Haha

They're both the true Vision

@@morganlasch8750 and neither are the true vision. Both were created by scarlet witch’s hex

That's why he was one of my favorite marvel heroes since age of ultron

I discovered that Wanda may have the best or coolest powers in the whole universe... But Vision is so much smarter!!!

no shit

@Pro Token420 (nose starts to bleed)

@Pro Token420 I was going to comment on the OP post but I just want to say thank you for your wonderful reply and I actually said 'wow' out loud. You have a way with words and a fine, keen mind. All the best from 🇮🇪

No.. that’s abso- fkn lutely NOT what it means… wtf

@@RealKaukus well then put your money where your mouth is and tell us what it means... I expect a great discourse in identity theory, metaphysical discussion and breaking down of the classical id, ego and super ego. I'm sure you will smash Freudian/Jungian ideas and a heavy slice of gold that at least takes reference from Socrates and Plato of course. I'm sure your wonderful theory will shatter ideas of the Anima/Animus and open our eyes finally.... Sooooo instead of making a statement like that... What ya got to back it up???? 🤔

😂😂ya

The bast marvel fights are the ones without much fighting. Vision vs. Vision. Dr. Strange vs. Dormammu. Thanos vs. Loki. These are the most memorable.

@@flabio7074 the last two werent even fights though. loki tries to stab him failing completely and then get his neck snapped. Doctor strange just dies over and over until dorm grows tired of it. There has to be actual conflict to be a fight. Just saying

Reminded me of Man of Steel tbh

@@flabio7074 vision vs ultron

Ya

Those are the origins of misunderstanding , reason of every fight is disagreement , AIs are so intelligent that can negotiate and come to understating.

Yeah man most of my late night drinking debates with me mates does the reverse.

intelligence over brute force is logical at this point

😂😂😂 He was shaken lol

lol

To be fair, he was still reeling from the revelation.

Well, he almost did the same thing when he was first created

his delivery of dialogue and the way of delivering it and his voice, accent, facial movements and what not wtf

He was so underrated before, this show finally gave him his chance to show his acting skills

Whole internet in his brain

Ya

Lmao they did destroy a car and a library

Depends who your opponent is

You should watch naruto

@@papadwarf3953 That's what I thought

I heard it :D

His eyes change as well

When he says I'm vision, he sounds like vision. And his eyes change back to IG vision eyes

I never cared about Star Trek, but now I’m curious.

@@Stoirelius The original series, and Next Generation resolved more problems with a logical review of the situation than they did through over the top action scenes. I hope Star Trek returns to that someday.

@@umbraemilitos say no more, i'll give it a watch

This is the most Next Generation kind of scene in sci-fi since the Next Generation ended, 10/10

The Klingon way indeed lol

Absolutely

Pure poetry (Not trying to sound cheesy)

yo didnt even catch that...nice

Thanks, I kept only the things necessary for the thought experiment part 😀

@@WhatsAppVideosGallery but you do have the data

But it is merely being kept from you 😂😂

As fans, our memories are not so easily wiped.

I'm comment *Flies out through the window*

I didn't get it

@@WhatsAppVideosGallery at the start of the video vision asks him “why are you doing this?” And his answer is basically “because my master told me to” so that reminded me of that prozd sketch.

ARCHIBALD NO

I dodged 1000 lightning bolts for your ultimate weapon.

I didn't know about that tho

I wonder without the mindstone, can wanda defeat the white vision I think not

@@WhatsAppVideosGallery That's something I was wondering too. She'd wreck Vision normally, but that's only cause she can use her telepathy to exploit the mindstone. Without that, she'd have to overpower him directly, and while she's stronger than him (after all, she did overpower Thanos, and he was a tank), his ability to phase would make it very tricky.

isnt wanda a mutant? she really didnt have a mind stone, she was doused in the presence of it and it amplified her abilities to greater heights that noone expected, and she became so powerful she can create life and alter death of beings in her reality which makes her the most powerful being in the mcu...cant wait for dr. strange multiverse of madness

@@46chambersoflife No. She isn’t a mutant. She is an enhanced like Steve Rogers or Bruce Banner. And if you’re talking about that she already had powers since she was a kid, it’s because she’s a witch like Agatha. Don’t tell me that Agatha is a mutant as well. As revealed in Ms. Marvel [SPOILERS], Kamala essentially became the first Mutant in the MCU.

@@MelianLimGachaVideos agartha is a super mutant

Are you stupid? There's scenes where books are untouched as well with white vision moron

@@alternateperez4086 Here's how your statement could have looked if you weren't a complete dick: "There are scenes where booked are untouched behind white vision as well". See how much nicer that sounds?

How's that a "little detail" they made it obvious for the audience, to the point it was highlighted for a few seconds you moron

@@alternateperez4086 Yay. Thanks for reminding me never to express an opinion on the internet. Nor should I never praise something I think is good because there will always be self-righteous idiots who think that *everyone* MUST think the same way as them and MUST see everything that they see otherwise they're bumbling idiots who don't deserve an opinion. Thanks for reminding me of that all you jackass.

@@alternateperez4086 And by the way, moron. Little details don't mean it doesn't go fucking unnoticed. It means that they're small details that enhance the story. Their entire existence helps elevate the story because the writers were able to think down to even the smallest thing to help make the story more impressive. Learn what small details entail, moron.

@@user-lh3ic7ym8h not only that but when he says "I am Vision" he no longer has the augmented robotic voice and sounds more human as well.

LOL "this incident should not affect our relationship" thats perfect thats totally a vision-y line

@@carlosortegaart It's also a Detroit: Become Human reference lol Everly time Connor, an android tasked to hunt down rogue androids, dies, a new one appears and says a similar frase, but change name and some words. He retains memories and is a perfect copy, but it affects the story in interesting ways

But Hex Vision(HV) didn’t transfer his memories to White Vision(WV). HV told WV that the reason WV doesn’t remember who he is was because his memories are being blocked from him but the data was inside him all along. HV helped WV unlock the memory data that was inside himself the whole time.

Yea

Yeah quantum-this and quantum-that. If they'd get "the science" right Ant Man would constantly create a black holes. But you got a point, ending a CGI battle with a philosophical debate is a nice, intelligent solution.

I loved mythos before, but I so see your point. I adore the intelligence in this video and come back to it often.

@@legolars5122 Wouldn't those black holes be so microscopically small that their life span ended before causing any notable damage? Perhaps he does create those black holes, but their size makes them inconsequential?

yeah I was skeptical about this phase but everyone of the shows has a fresh angle and style that keeps pushing some envelope. This scene was the highlight of the final episode (even over Wanda's dope costume).

So how is antman able to ride a bee while still weighting 80 kg if Marvel always gets science "right" ? 😏

genius! if only in real life...

Me2

But what if he destroys himself? His programming states he must destroy the Vision

I heard he's getting his own series at some point

@@absolutemadlad5662 wanda & white vision

@Brian Silva then you will hear many times..." Why does gotta be white?"

*SW

star trek fandom ?? lol

He was also the only one of the Avengers in Civil War who had the theory that maybe Supervillains are in reaction to Superheroes and not vice-versa. That's kind of a thing comics tend to avoid talking about.

So true. It's weird. This was literally the best part of their fight to me.

@@haagenneldeberg6787 When he said "I request elaboration" I was OMG OMG OMG

Ya

No, hex vision unlocked white visions memories that were blocked.

No, the hex vision only has the memories from the point Wanda created him, and only the love for Wanda and not his own death, up until later on he finds out from others that he was killed by Thanos a few years back. The white vision is the real vision with the real memories, and the memories was being kept from him in order to only have the goal of destroying the hex.

Hex Vision didn't have any memories, but he could unlock Vision's memories

For sure this White Vision will be the main Vision of the MCU going forward.

We are memories. Not flesh. Our bodies may not be the same as it was but nervous cells cannot be replaced.

@@juggernaut6141 True but the contents of those cells are constantly turning over, which might as well be the same thing

Ya I like thought experiments

@@WhatsAppVideosGallery "Naturally."👌

Ya😂

lets upload our conciousness to a computer and find out.....sure we may think its a smooth transition from an organic body to a digital platform right before we die so we can live forever, but our question would be can we apply the ship of theseus to consciousness? since consciousness isnt really matter at all. does that apply to a non tangable concept? such as our soul? in the future we may have to merge our consciousness to AI in order to preserve human kind, wether we like it or not.....hell...in the future AI might be like wifi...just a signal that we can tap into. what would the use of limited bodies be useful then? evolution is a big player in this universe...cant deny entropy

Thanks for the info, I think I need to change the name 😂

I'd like to think in the MCU wanda will start over again, with white vision. Knowing what he knows and what she knows, it would be nice to think that they could start things over again, truly settle down out of the lime light.

@@onyxsky2304 ~ That depends upon several factors... 1. *_Via Marvel Comics' history_** ~* If following the Marvel Comics' history & current affairs... - a.) As said in my initial Comment, in the comics, Wanda and Vision would never recover their romantic relationship & marriage again, even after (White) Vision would regain his memory-data (but *NOT* the emotional bonds to those memories) and traditional colors. This was shown (in-comics) by two separate attempts across the (comics-)years to re-kindle their relationship, and both Wanda and Vision found it was neither the same, nor working out between them. - b.) Wanda would have several other romantic relationships after Vision (serious ones, not just casual ones &/or flings), to reinforce that Wanda had moved on from Vision. Though Wanda would experience a full-on psychotic break into insanity and try to force an in-comics faux-Reboot of her marriage and family via her out-of-control powers & magicks (see: Avengers Disassembled and House of M comics-events). - c.) Currently (as of year 2020), Wanda is in a committed (romantic) relationship with fellow sorcerer & Avenger team-member, Doctor Voodoo (Dr. Jericho Drumm). 2. *_What If..?_** ~* Moving into speculation territory (so take this with a grain of salt... *;)* ), how the MCU will handle Wanda & Vision, post-WandaVision, depends upon whether they add certain/specific characters from Marvel Comics to the MCU... - a.) *Simon Williams (Wonder Man) ~* A long-standing, on-&-off, romantic relationship in Marvel Comics, a [Wanda + Williams] route would be a strong contender for Wanda's affections and moving past Vision. However, the MCU producers and writers have been very 'iffy' on whether to add Williams to the MCU, due to Williams' character-history not having particularly good values (ethical, moral, political, etc.). - b.) *Dr. Jericho Drumm (Doctor Voodoo) ~* As mentioned previously, Drumm is Wanda's current boyfriend in Marvel Comics. If the MCU decides to add Doctor Voodoo (possibly via the coming 'Doctor Strange & the Multiverse of Madness'?), then it can be a pretty good wager that will follow-up with matching the Marvel Comics romantic relationship of [Wanda + Drumm]. 3. *_Personally_** ~* One of my particular memorable and lamented romantic angles was [Wanda Maximoff + Steve Rogers]. I always thought this romance was a good mix for both characters, in terms themes and personalities. I would have liked to see this romantic angle more developed, and gone on longer. Sadly, the timing of things resulted in this romance angle getting scrapped with the 'Avengers Disassembled' and 'House of M' events. *:(*

@@pendrake40 everything you just said has me more interested in what's to come for Wanda and Vision

Hmm... Could it be possible for Wanda to somewhat restore the emotions of vision? Since her powers came from the mind stone and Vision's programming and thought came directly from the mind stone and knowing how Wanda got her powers in this universe, is it possible?

Nice callbacks, perhaps he’s just waiting for Wanda comeback and he’ll cook Paprika

They say vision is technically connected to everything and also Jarvis and Ultron are very intelligent

It's essentially the same as replacing the stick on the broom turns the broom to a new broom or its still the same

The breakdown is like this: Are you still the original object made even after replacing parts of you that are no longer the original. For example your own body replaces every single cell in your body every 7 years or so meaning that you are literally not the same you every 7 years or so of your life. But even with that being the truth you still retain memories of your past as well as things like scars and other momentos to remind you of who you are. This is the same thing as the boat explanation, is it still a boat even after having all sorts of original parts removed and replaced. You are not supposed to be able to straight up answer this question and that is why the remade vision rocketed away in confusion so he could ponder the meaning of the thought experiment as well as explore the memories he was given access too. I would imagine being a super powerful computer he registered all the info instantly and was overcome by the emotion of all of it.

i am very smart :s so smart they are thinking i might even be smarter than professor hawking. thus very smart xD but i dont know everything ofcours and i had to look this up :) i always am a big fan to the intellectuals in games/movies/series etc. soon il have an IQ test :) you'l see :D

Wow, even though they blatantly explain what they're talking about?

i understood that reference

This is the way

This is the way

I didn't get that

This is the way

Scarlett witch will fall in love with the white one maybe

Ya

Cloud drive saves the day

I mean think about all the information that white vision just received. I looked at it as he probably needs time to process it all. Going straight to wanda wouldn't have been the right move writing wise I think.

Admittedly havent watched the series - which one is which?

@@Garfie489 the green Vision is the construct created by Wanda - physically not containing even a single atom of the original but with all the same thoughts and memories and personality. The white Vision is the body of the original which has been reanimated and reprogrammed - physically he's the original (with a new colour scheme) but mentally he's a blank slate.

Both are

You don’t get the point.

You really are a special kind of stupid . They tell you literally in this scene . They’re both the true vision, dumb ass

But the teleporter doesn’t destroy/create atoms, it converts you into an energy pattern and reconverts you back into matter. There was an episode where a transporter malfunction happened, and a memory file of the person’s pattern was used to get them back into themselves. I think once on TNG and then again on VOY?

@KiroTheAssassin congratulations

@KiroTheAssassin that's ok

Yeah

Agatha: "I have a theory, but I need more...."

Triggers broom

@@GRIFFINds I understood that reference.