The SHOCKING TRUTH About Grass-Fed Grass-Finished Beef | Dr. Steven Gundry

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Jesse Chappus

Jesse Chappus

4 ай бұрын

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Dr. Steven Gundry is one of the world’s top cardiothoracic surgeons and a pioneer in nutrition. He is the author of many New York Times bestselling books.
Dr. Gundry is the founder of Gundry MD, a line of wellness products & supplements and he hosts the top-rated health show, The Dr. Gundry Podcast.
His new book is Gut Check: Unleash the Power of Your Microbiome to Reverse Disease and Transform Your Mental, Physical, and Emotional Health.
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@JesseChappus
@JesseChappus 4 ай бұрын
Watch the full interview with Dr. Steven Gundry on KZfaq 👉🏻 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMydlpWK3Ju0iGg.html Thanks for watching! If you're enjoying this clip, please click the LIKE button on the video and let me know. -Jesse 💙
@cgaumerd
@cgaumerd 4 ай бұрын
You can't be serious.
@CvoreAthlete
@CvoreAthlete 4 ай бұрын
No thanks, probably your worst guest ever. Unsubbed
@andrewscott2398
@andrewscott2398 4 ай бұрын
Jesse this is the worst no it all interview you’ve ever done…. Gundry is a seller of his books and products …..A bunch of blah blah blah I’m the smartest man in the world ….. you should of had him take off his shirt and show us some muscles 💪🏽
@cgaumerd
@cgaumerd 4 ай бұрын
Jesse, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrOqrKWnmd-zgIk.htmlsi=VYH7mphptD_FwIqC
@zamfirtoth6441
@zamfirtoth6441 4 ай бұрын
He seems to be into the woke looking glasses. Maybe he has been paid by big pharma to get business back from carnivores. Has anyone heard of anything but positive feedback about autoimmunity from carnivores? Please Professor Kay, rip this guy a new one.
@yancong3400
@yancong3400 4 ай бұрын
I don’t get it. Recently, I started eating a red meat and fat based diet. I feel so much better. No more gut discomfort and no longer feeling cold all the time. My daughter gained more muscle and is now able to skate so much faster in just a few weeks. If we don’t eat meat and fat, there is nothing left to eat.
@wellnesspathforme6236
@wellnesspathforme6236 4 ай бұрын
He’s full of crap. Our ancestors have been eating this for many thousands of years. He complains about natural food but has ZERO COMMENT on rusty metallic iron filings that don’t exist in food… they are very toxic. Read Iron: The Most Toxic Metal. I view Gundry as controlled opposition…. He’s projecting on nature what iron filing waste does…
@bonsummers2657
@bonsummers2657 4 ай бұрын
There're other things to eat. But choose what works well for you.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
Same here...Once you figure out eating 14lbs of greens everyday is not going to work, you go back and eat properly. The only people still doing green, juice. Which to me is drinking dirt. Nope meat please.
@sakura_sun
@sakura_sun 4 ай бұрын
We all have different requirements as individuals, our own health requirements are vastly different from person to person , so just go with what makes you feel good.
@CvoreAthlete
@CvoreAthlete 4 ай бұрын
Total BS. No association with red meat and cancer, dementia, diabetes. Theres association with all those diseases and processed foods like pizza and lasagna which biased anti meat researchers call red meat. Don't fall for the false research. Eat all the red meat you want
@grantharding8868
@grantharding8868 4 ай бұрын
Hes still in the old red meat heart disease camp. Once I heard him say that I shut down. This guy is forever spruiking his old philosophy and research has proven it wrong for many years now. We need a human diet not some concocted regime based on manipulated research.
@CvoreAthlete
@CvoreAthlete 4 ай бұрын
Total BS. No association with red meat and cancer, dementia, diabetes. Theres association with all those diseases and processed foods like pizza and lasagna which biased anti meat researchers call red meat. Don't fall for the false research
@stephens9462
@stephens9462 4 ай бұрын
He’s a 7th Day Adventist
@WeedAlmighty
@WeedAlmighty 4 ай бұрын
Should have kept listening and not be so dogmatic, he says he even eats steak once a month, he's pro cheese, yogurt, fermented sausages, not saying he's correct it's the first I've heard of this toxic sugar from meat but you should really listen to people, especially if they disagree with you.
@TheKent2288
@TheKent2288 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! You saved 32 mins of my life :)
@luiggifillipo1601
@luiggifillipo1601 Ай бұрын
Agree with you 💯 %. This MD represents old school attack on red meat and milk
@ricksanford6485
@ricksanford6485 4 ай бұрын
I can't watch this Gundry is all over the board with high priced olive oil, pistachio, macadamia nuts, all these high priced foods we should eat according to his expertise.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
Diet is simple, unless YOU are doing the processing, it's all processed food. I do not live near macadamias, so at best they are a luxury seasonal treat, not food. Nobody presses their own olive oil, so it's processed and thus an automatic no-go. Eat meat it comes with all the oil you will ever need. Number one rule is avoid Manufactured Food. Do that all you will do fine.
@zamfirtoth6441
@zamfirtoth6441 4 ай бұрын
Lol, olive oil= plant sterols. I'll take cholesterol any day.
@zamfirtoth6441
@zamfirtoth6441 4 ай бұрын
Our feet are better as flippers than at walking. Lllooolll
@Alecmcq
@Alecmcq 4 ай бұрын
Gundry??? Pass…
@pennyblackwell4941
@pennyblackwell4941 4 ай бұрын
Sugar/Glucose make your red blood cells sticky not meat!
@BaebeasDogTrainingPortland
@BaebeasDogTrainingPortland 4 ай бұрын
I followed Dr Gundry’s eating lifestyle. By the 6 month mark my hair was coming out in clumps, what was left was graying faster than any other time in my life, and I alternated between diarrhea and constipation. I’be been carnivore for over a year and my hair is thicker, less gray, my knees no longer hurt, my gut is healed, my memory is better, I’m stronger than I’ve ever been in my life without lifting weights, I’m faster than when I ran track in high school, my endurance is phenomenal, my eye sight is better, I have better bladder control. I’m a 67 year old female who is competitive in the sport of dog agility against men and women 1/2 my age. People who haven’t seen me for awhile ask if I’ve had a face lift. It would be nice if Dr Gundry didn’t embrace the “studies” that are contrary to reality. He is such a brilliant man and could help so many people if he didn’t buy into the anti meat regime.
@pauldunne2407
@pauldunne2407 4 ай бұрын
Id really like to see a panel discussion with Dr Gundry, Dr Berry Dr Chaffee,DrBerg and have them figure out what exactly is the correct diet for most humans.
@goddessinfinity1
@goddessinfinity1 4 ай бұрын
Get a DNA test if you want that answer. No one can tell you what is good for you. You have to determine that by paying attention to your body and what works vs what does not.
@zamfirtoth6441
@zamfirtoth6441 4 ай бұрын
Human DNA adapted primarily to ruminant meat. Any adaptation that occured over time was a downgrade to the species.
@CM7777...
@CM7777... 4 ай бұрын
No Berg. He's even worse. A supplement salesman
@johnmartinsen963
@johnmartinsen963 4 ай бұрын
@@CM7777... and Scientologist ☠☠☠
@happyapple4269
@happyapple4269 2 ай бұрын
cows are 86% genetically similar to humans. theres your answer.
@gibbyjones1040
@gibbyjones1040 4 ай бұрын
you can tell alot about a person by their choice of eyewear
@4freethinking
@4freethinking 4 ай бұрын
😂
@WilliamFluery
@WilliamFluery 4 ай бұрын
What is the word that describes the personality disorder of someone in love with themself? Oh yeah, Narcissist.
@juliejenkins3572
@juliejenkins3572 4 ай бұрын
Not his best look
@truth-alwayswins
@truth-alwayswins 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@goddessinfinity1
@goddessinfinity1 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@betsyc6055
@betsyc6055 4 ай бұрын
He’s like a permanent infomercial. And his statements are usually not backed up by in vivo studies that are sound methodologically. All I can think of when I see him are his endless infomercials on this platform.
@Julia29853
@Julia29853 4 ай бұрын
And his snazzy glasses! 😂😂😂
@livincincy4498
@livincincy4498 4 ай бұрын
He is a seventh day Adventist
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
if true, it explains his lectin fetish.
@CM7777...
@CM7777... 4 ай бұрын
That explains everything
@Chris-tw8fu
@Chris-tw8fu 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you should have someone else to talk …..he is horrible to listen to
@WilliamFluery
@WilliamFluery 4 ай бұрын
🥱🥱🥱 Not my favorite guest on any vlog. Can’t wait for your next vlog
@wellnesspathforme6236
@wellnesspathforme6236 4 ай бұрын
He’s demonizing nature while not mentioning rusty metallic iron filings…. He’s running interference for the toxic iron filings.
@Soapgirl64
@Soapgirl64 3 ай бұрын
Since going high fat carnivore I’ve never felt better. Gut had been destroyed from over 20 years of being vegetarian. Gonna stay on this path.
@lf7065
@lf7065 4 ай бұрын
Not a fan of his. He's too influenced by the Adventist agenda. Living and working in Loma Linda and all. And comes across very condescending and arrogant. I'm a pass on this one as well.
@picturesLondon
@picturesLondon 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you sum him up very well.
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 4 ай бұрын
Animal production is REQUIRED for regenerative farming, anything else destroys the land or requires long periods fallow. Grass fed meat is also the food of our ancestors, not beans which because discovered only recently and a large part of the diet even more recently. Even in roman times meat and other animal products was the vast majority of the diet.
@Pi2.718
@Pi2.718 4 ай бұрын
Get the fact right about the roman times !!!!!
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 4 ай бұрын
@@Pi2.718no u
@picturesLondon
@picturesLondon 4 ай бұрын
OK what are the facts about Roman diet. @@Pi2.718
@goddessinfinity1
@goddessinfinity1 4 ай бұрын
Correct 💯
@CM7777...
@CM7777... 4 ай бұрын
The "food of our ancestors" has to stop. That was then, this is now. There is far more proof that they were not thriving on whatever diet they were on millions or thousands of tears ago. Because we don't really know. Only a small percentage of the earth had access to an only meat diet. The rest had to make do with what was available. There is not enough data to surmise the small portion of only meat eaters were in better health than those sustained by roots, seafood, grains. The fault of carnivores is that they don't address this. Which brings There whole house of cards down. Stick to what it does here and now. Truthfully, we are omnivores. Humanity as a whole would not have survived if they could not eat roots, grains, seafood, etc. Regardless, this guy is delusional
@angelataylor2049
@angelataylor2049 4 ай бұрын
What about our ancestors over the hundreds of thousands of years…did they eat 5GC?
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
Pure Lectin diets.
@concreteboy7851
@concreteboy7851 4 ай бұрын
Right? Also, everyone lives on the coast? What the hell was that? Pretty sure entire civilizations never even knew about or saw the ocean.
@goddessinfinity1
@goddessinfinity1 4 ай бұрын
Our ancestors ate meat. They were carnivores.
@victorm.4314
@victorm.4314 4 ай бұрын
You/we wouldn’t be here if your ancestors didn’t eat 5GC
@CM7777...
@CM7777... 4 ай бұрын
​@@goddessinfinity1That's not true. Carnivores have there own dogma that is inaccurate
@CLiNT642
@CLiNT642 4 ай бұрын
Paul Saladino MD says Neu5gc in red meat is FUD. Professor Bart Kay as well.
@josephe.mersnik3529
@josephe.mersnik3529 4 ай бұрын
Maybe this writer coud translate his message.
@Soapgirl64
@Soapgirl64 3 ай бұрын
?? What’s FUD?
@concreteboy7851
@concreteboy7851 4 ай бұрын
Well. All sorts of holes here. My Dad avoided red meat, milk, eggs etc. Died from Alzheimer’s. My Mom avoided that stuff too. Got cancer. So, you’re not correct about anything you say as far as I’m concerned. Also, study? What kind of study was that. What else did those people eat? Out of the 10,000 other things in the grocery store those people ate you chose meat as the Devil?! Bone broth, by the way, is one of the only things that begins to heal the gut. Ask ANYBODY who has guy issues. So respectfully, because I do respect your passion for better health, you’re wrong based on my experiences. I’m now doing the opposite of what these general “studies” say.
@lindalee5718
@lindalee5718 4 ай бұрын
I cured my guts issues going carnivore for a period of time. He promotes 'Healthy' expensive ultraprocessed food.
@marinoint
@marinoint 4 ай бұрын
But the people who ate beef for decades are healthier than most others, including vegetarians!
@milenaseymour446
@milenaseymour446 2 ай бұрын
Ha ha not true
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish Ай бұрын
@@milenaseymour446haha exactly. Where do they get this info. Trust me bro.
@danwhite1198
@danwhite1198 4 ай бұрын
Think you know something about grass fed beef, guess again! Not my favorite Doctor. Too condescending.
@GoldenBlaisdale
@GoldenBlaisdale 4 ай бұрын
you know when you're listening to somebody that has a real insight because even complicated things hit home and are so enlightening. This is just a word salad.
@topherg4909
@topherg4909 4 ай бұрын
This guys info and recommendations have been all over the place since hitting the scene…one of the biggest shills next to Berg
@milenaseymour446
@milenaseymour446 2 ай бұрын
Gundry is a great guest thank you ❤
@milenaseymour446
@milenaseymour446 2 ай бұрын
So glad I have been smart and never adding red meat back in ! Fish and veggies is the best
@mabajaki5555
@mabajaki5555 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, but parmezan and other aged cheeses are very high im histamine. Same as all fermented food. So how can it be good?
@goddessinfinity1
@goddessinfinity1 4 ай бұрын
If you are sensitive to histamines it's because your microbiome has been compromised.
@robmyers8948
@robmyers8948 4 ай бұрын
I got to 4:36, anyone do better?
@AnneMB955
@AnneMB955 4 ай бұрын
At 13.10 but emptied the dishwasher in the meantime. 😉
@grantharding8868
@grantharding8868 4 ай бұрын
That's longer than me ( a happy Carnivore)
@dougroberts3643
@dougroberts3643 4 ай бұрын
You definitely beat me. I only made it 30 seconds. I hate this guy. He's a waste of time
@igor64765
@igor64765 29 күн бұрын
Nope! You win
@AnneMB955
@AnneMB955 4 ай бұрын
Bart Kay must be on his way. 😉
@JoyCrossbridge
@JoyCrossbridge Ай бұрын
I can always count on dear Dr. Gundry to muddy the waters.
@jenniferh7297
@jenniferh7297 4 ай бұрын
So if you eat roughly 10 times more eggs than beef should we be ok?
@nellosnook4454
@nellosnook4454 4 ай бұрын
1. I eat 6-7 eggs per day. 2. Then, enough red meat to reach satiety. 3. I am a 100% believer in the Keto-Carnivore Diet. 4. I am also a 100% believer in Intermittent Fasting. 5. I entreat you to investigate & try these simple, FREE, do-it-yourself, FOUNDATIONAL health protocols. 🙏 6. I did, and it absolutely changed my life. 💪
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
@@nellosnook4454 concur...Plus it is getting almost impossible to even buy food anymore, real food. EGGS Meats and Cheeses organic are the targets. The rest is literally going to kill you folks, so dabble in some veggies but 1/4 plate max.
@picturesLondon
@picturesLondon 4 ай бұрын
Great plan.This is been great for me to! @@nellosnook4454
@dkdkskrrt141
@dkdkskrrt141 4 ай бұрын
I get brain fog from Neu5Gc
@CM7777...
@CM7777... 4 ай бұрын
He's a charlatan. I listened to him and his bean and legume nonsense and my insides got knotted up.
@stefanpatrickco
@stefanpatrickco 29 күн бұрын
I'm not aware of the guy. Is he suggesting eating raw legumes?
@Shedly81
@Shedly81 4 ай бұрын
Pass on Gundry- not a particularly helpful educator
@wellnesspathforme6236
@wellnesspathforme6236 4 ай бұрын
Psy-op artist keeps people thinking smoking can be healthy and never discusses toxic metallic iron fortification and doesn’t prioritize the pesticide and other toxins added to the food supply.
@helencooney1363
@helencooney1363 4 ай бұрын
He confuses atoms and molecules early on in this.
@milenaseymour446
@milenaseymour446 2 ай бұрын
Just found an in depth articles supporting his arguments for red meat . Glad to hear this !
@gailgoldman216
@gailgoldman216 4 ай бұрын
I like to listen to him. It’s very important to hear what a qualified doctor has to say based on research and observation. He has been very helpful and I do not find him arrogant
@stevelanghorn1407
@stevelanghorn1407 4 ай бұрын
Your interviewing method is perfection.
@JesseChappus
@JesseChappus 3 ай бұрын
💙
@deepwaters2334
@deepwaters2334 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if salted meats have less of this as well by being pulled out of the cells by osmosis.
@lorraineandterryscarnivore1893
@lorraineandterryscarnivore1893 4 ай бұрын
Old school
@russellrobins5320
@russellrobins5320 4 ай бұрын
How about some percentages? The carb load of red meat is nearly undetectable so how much G5C can it have? Gundry LOVES to find the most minor issue and tries to make it into a mountainous issue. Too many products being sold by him to be trustworthy imo
@carlstout7948
@carlstout7948 4 ай бұрын
Haven’t gotten sick since been on the letin free diet. Dr . Gundry does have some facts! 99% out of the time.😊
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
The key is avoiding processed food. Whatever you eat after that is your choice, really. Modern food is not food. It's a product made to mimic real food. Sadly most salt and sugar addicts fall for the jig. The human body not so much. Eating processed store food will cut your life 20-30 years easy. If you eat out alot to could drop dead at anytime no matter your age.
@grantharding8868
@grantharding8868 4 ай бұрын
Eat Carnivore and you'll reap more health benefits than selecting eating plants.
@russellrobins5320
@russellrobins5320 4 ай бұрын
He’s 100% correct 60% of the time
@dianefortner3602
@dianefortner3602 4 ай бұрын
Dr Gundry- does American A2 Milk contain A G 2 c?
@russellrobins5320
@russellrobins5320 4 ай бұрын
Great point He continually hawks a2 malk who pronounces it malk?
@angelataylor2049
@angelataylor2049 4 ай бұрын
What about ghee?
@dkdkskrrt141
@dkdkskrrt141 4 ай бұрын
ghee as well as butter are fine, since they contain no Neu5Gc. Milk and cheese aren't
@thomassaddul
@thomassaddul 4 ай бұрын
Watched this doctor before. After watching the carnivore doctors, I stopped watching his videos.
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish Ай бұрын
Most of the carnivore docs are chiropractors…
@thomassaddul
@thomassaddul Ай бұрын
@@litjellyfish Not true. Dr. Chaffee, Dr. Mason, Dr. Baker, Dr. Boz, Dr. Bikman, Prof. Kay, Dr. Westman, Dr. Cywes, Dr. Noakes, etc...
@sabine8419
@sabine8419 4 ай бұрын
Chicken and seafood make me ill.
@johndough23
@johndough23 4 ай бұрын
Seafood is trash and full of bad chemicals. Organic chicken is a go to me. The Tyson stuff avoid like the seafood. Gotta cook your own food, min.
@Aiken47
@Aiken47 4 ай бұрын
He needs to show receipts and have a biochemist and Zoe Harcombe go through them
@terrymoore565
@terrymoore565 4 ай бұрын
Well...careful Doc I buy your dog food for my two dogs..
@Tee667
@Tee667 4 ай бұрын
I don’t get why you would give this airtime…… this needs explaining to me. It’s happening alot. A health channel eventually turns into one big fat contradictory confusion. Bart Kay vs Gundry…. How does this make sense to your listeners. Pray tell….
@ketokarbs3671
@ketokarbs3671 4 ай бұрын
He's making money from youtube He wants the views for his channel The more vids and views the more money this channel makes
@Tee667
@Tee667 4 ай бұрын
@@ketokarbs3671 that’s another channel I’ve unsubscribed to. If you are correct, I get people have to make money, make money by being consistent NOT confusing. Advertise one message one week and a contradictory one the next!!!
@ketokarbs3671
@ketokarbs3671 4 ай бұрын
@@Tee667 I agree with u 100% Really sad they are only in this for the money I'm going to unfollow this channel
@Soapgirl64
@Soapgirl64 3 ай бұрын
It’s important to present a variety of information. You can use your own discernment on what works for you.
@Tee667
@Tee667 3 ай бұрын
@@Soapgirl64 sadly some people don’t have discernment and there lies a problem. Sell the absolute truth. Make money from truth NOT opinion
@lindereckenzaun4213
@lindereckenzaun4213 4 ай бұрын
Back to school Mr Gundry
@marygrott8095
@marygrott8095 4 ай бұрын
Isn’t Dr. G. plant based? Not sure I buy the association of red meat and the health conditions he mentioned because I thought tjst was applicable to grass fed, grass finished meat?! Question and research further, people.
@stevelanghorn1407
@stevelanghorn1407 4 ай бұрын
No, he’s not. He supports occasional intake of good quality red meat too. Regarding this, it’s the Sialic Acid molecule found in red meat (Neu5gc) that he says is pro-inflammatory and harmful. Apparently it “infiltrates” our natural human Neu5ac (similar molecule) found in our own cells. Who knows if he’s right?!
@billnott5811
@billnott5811 4 ай бұрын
This man works for the enemy and spreading false information..
@truth-alwayswins
@truth-alwayswins 4 ай бұрын
What enemy?
@robmyers8948
@robmyers8948 4 ай бұрын
@@truth-alwayswinsthe enemy of false information. I thought that was clear 😅
@grantharding8868
@grantharding8868 4 ай бұрын
The carbohydrate diet is good...false message
@perijon00
@perijon00 4 ай бұрын
@@truth-alwayswinsSDA
@truth-alwayswins
@truth-alwayswins 4 ай бұрын
@@perijon00Yawn. Pipe down dear. I am not the paranoid dumbass. You on the other hand.
@DorothyCline-oy2yp
@DorothyCline-oy2yp 4 ай бұрын
Just the fact that he hocks all those gummies makes him illegitimate as a health care "expert".
@elenaw7998
@elenaw7998 4 ай бұрын
I love Dr Gundry. He’s helped me a lot… he and Glucose Goddess.
@frankarcobello3149
@frankarcobello3149 4 ай бұрын
please stop saying maybe or might cause this or that and give us facts
@juliejenkins3572
@juliejenkins3572 4 ай бұрын
Oh no
@ketokarbs3671
@ketokarbs3671 4 ай бұрын
Ignore him
@YouTuber-ep5xx
@YouTuber-ep5xx 4 ай бұрын
Meh. It is probably the fries that come with the burgers that cause the cancers. Gundry is smart and interesting, but not buying his products nor taking nutritional advice from him.
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish Ай бұрын
To much read meat can cause cancer according to several studies. That does not mean red meat is dangerous. The fries as you say for sure has cancer risky as they are fried in high temperatures. Same as eating hardly grilled read meat for sure is worse than slow cooked version (or even raw - if we disregard the bacteria risks) of the read meat. Also the bread and sodas for sure is cancer topics. A better burger meal would most likely be slow cooked beef with green leaves. Tomatoes. Some fermented cheese and virgin olive oil drizzle. And water to drink
@moonrise458
@moonrise458 11 күн бұрын
Another cockeyed view, WATCH the interview by Dr Anthony Chaffee and the rancher lady at 82 who is brighter than a 50 year old. Also the native Americans ate loads of meat and did not have cancer or alzheimers. I'm off of here!
@Highdesertqueenie
@Highdesertqueenie 3 ай бұрын
Am not a fan. He is a millionaire due to his infomercials that are all about him and his theories and expensive products.
@woman4womenkids547
@woman4womenkids547 3 ай бұрын
Heart disease was unknown until something like 1912. We ate un fermented red meat for thousands of years without cheese making.
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish Ай бұрын
What do you base that on? Plenty of records of people dying from heart failures. And even before it was even know it’s records of people dying from symptoms we today would classify as heart failure.
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