The ripple vs the cripple

2:26 "Every living thing- everything that is alive is able to use hamon" Except Speedwagon.

So if we get a hamon-infused steel ball and throw it with the Super Spin...

How about Spin AND Hamon? Use the Spin on a Hamon user, make them breathe 10 times better, then let them Overdrive. Jesus, that would be so powerful.

Spins Practicality: Johnny was able to spin his fingernails to brush his teeth and once ate pasta with them

Ripple: life energy Spin: araki writing stuff down

Actually, Gyro said that what they were both trying to achieve was the infinite spin. Ballbreaker just had parkinson's because the steel ball was damaged, so it never became infinite.

You forgot the most important uses; Hamon can fling oily spaghetti at other people and Spin lets you brush your teeth with your finger. Hamon seems to be able to manipulate living beings as demonstrated by Caesar using Hamon to control the woman and Joseph with the pigeon. I'd say that's a pretty useful and scary power to have that the spin can't. Possibly because the living beings are partially composed of water and Hamon works through a liquid medium.

The hamon they use on part 1 and 2 is healing hamon, I guess the hamon that ultimate Kars uses is the destructive kind that Will mentions when he's trying to destroy that steel door.

Hamon Infused Super Spin when

Hamon makes legal loli possible.

the quality of this channel has really gone down mentioning spin without speedwagons hat is a grave crime

5:07 that moment when two strong men gang up against a paraplejic...

How I see it is: Hamon is good against the undead and Spin is good against the living.

Man who seems drunk talks about an anime electric energy and a spinny ball

I feel as if hamon might be more useful in everyday life. due to things like being able to lift wet objects extremely easily while using hamon. walking on water, being able to block bullets (most likely other things) sort of water bending when it comes to shit like look at lisa Lisa's first appearance. can mind control/brain wash people kinda. And generally makes people stronger. I remember i made a reddit post with a ton more points but i cant remember them

You forgot that Hamon allows you to see the future even without Hermit Purple; that old sage dude knew exactly when Will would die by looking into his future and Joseph actually did have minor precognition. That alone massively increases its usefulness.

Did you mention how hamon users need to be more ripped to breath 10 times in 1 second, then a spin user would have to be? You see that moment when Jonthan was like "ah I'm super strong" and ripped that metal bar against tarkus was it. The knight loser. I say this because hamon is used to exceed human boundaries, as opposed to the spin which is to manipulate it with medical knowledge and things.

Spin is better because you can use it to make a Young Woman looks like my Grandma, and when you make her look young again, she will be more sexy than before for an entire week.

Jonathan: doesn't have a stand, but can stand Johnny: has a stand...

All I could say is this, had any of the Jojstars and Friends learned either hamon, spin, or both, they would be more dangerous. People like Josuke and Giorno would benefit more from using hamon thanks to their abilities, while Kakyoin and Narancia would benefit from spin.

hamon into stands : giorno giovanna's gold experience spin into stands: johnny's tusk

I'm pretty sure I read that when Caesar was younger he would get into fights all the time and he would innately use the ripple which cause any one hit with it to fall into a temporary coma, so ripple could be useful against human opponents but in a nonlethal way.

What if: Joseph Joestar learned the Spin on accident while fucking around with his Clacker thingies.

When your last name is zeppeli and you meet a friendly joestar: part 1 of 3 accepting your death

still think tusk act 4 is more deadly than hamon

Would it be possible to spin a vampires brain back to normal?

now..if someone had the mastery of the spin and hamon. they would be op af

HAMON RUINED FIST OF THE NORTH STA......................... waitaminute

I miss hamon, I wish it had been kept around as a secondary ability something people could use to compliment their stands instead of being a primary ability like it was in the beginning of the series.

wait so is Golden Experienc a follow up to hamon in the sense it creates life? (well not actually because Hamon is the transfer of Life energy and Golden Experience just creates life forms somehow)

The Ripple has more uses. It can be used to expel poison from the bloodstream, heal wounds faster, modify the surface of liquids, walk on water or up a wet pillar, kill humans, etcetera. I'm surprised he didn't mention how the Spin creates ripples with the same pattern as The Ripple, as seen by Gyro when he had Jesus' eyeball inside him.

9:06 why yes I do remember the time Jonathan used sunlight yellow overdrive to kakyoin Johnny

Johnny: “I’m a sick cripple, I don’t use the ripple!”

Its mainly their weakness to sunlight that ties the Pillar Man in the same boat as zombies and vampires as to why Hamon fucks them up so badly. But I also thought Johnny was able to achieve the Infinite Spin because he was also a better horse jockey than Gyro (as stated by Gyro) and thus was more capable of getting his horse to run at its "natural speed" or some romantic shit like that.

I'm so glad to know that you still produce good quality content. Keep it up! :D

"we never got to see hamon pushed to the limit" we never see an 'infinite' hamon overdrive occur, but there's always that scene where kars punches the red stone of aja at the volcano.

WHAT IF JOUSUKE 8 IS USING THE SPIN ?!?!

I know this video is 3 years old but your explanation of the spin helped me write my book talk essay on part 7 so thank you

What an excellent video. A fine, red-pilled gentleman of class explaining in detail the nature of the video topic over relevant footage with music from Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker over it all. *Chef's Kiss* Perfect video.

You forgot the hamon when amplified by the red stone heated the volcano so much it flung kars with enough power to reach escape velocity

Spin are for dinosaurs ripple are for monsters and aztec gods

I love the MGS music in the bg. Nice collision of some of my favorite franchises.

I was surprised to hear Love Deterrence in this video. At first I thought KZfaq glitched out (since I have it saved in a playlist) but then I paused and it stopped as well. Interesting choice of song

Johnny: "I'm a cool cripple I don't use the ripple"

Wait if hamon is life energy does that mean gold experience is a hamon stand

I just wanted to watch a discussion video about the Spin and Hamon and instead now I'm just crying about Mother Base. Thanks a lot, Meti.

So in general. Hamon is more powerful but The Spin is more versatile and deadly. Thanks I needed this for a project.

Since it's related to this video (kinda), can Johnny bring out Act 4 without activating the super spin? I think I remember seeing him having it out when he's trying to get onto that boat with Gyro's coffin and all, but I'm not sure if that really counts. My current theory is that Act 4 can still be brought out and do punch-ghost things, but it can't use the super spin unless Johnny does the horse thing.

The "virgin" ripple vs the "chad" hamon

Sweet, "Love Deterrence" with the explanation of Hamon and Spins is amazing

I was totally distracted from the explanation by this amazing mix of Love Deterrence

i always believe that Spin and Hamon were supplied by the same bases but branched off. with Spin focusing in Technic and Hamon focusing on Power. because of that one scene jonny fell in the water and causes the same ripple effect as Hamon. and how i understand it the Golden Ratio, is the perfect form. that you can put power in without going out of control. which translate in to you can put infinite power in to it.

I prefer Spin but ripple is cool too

Johnny proved that spin is more versatile when he grated cheese, ate spaghetti and brushed teeth with his rotating nails

They are both amazing but I never thought I would see you make a serious video

6:05 *IS THAT “WHEN HEAVENS DIVIDE” IN THE BACKGROUND?!*

Try mixing Spin and Hamon together! I would love to see the possibilities!

WHEN *HEAVENS* DIVIDE! holy shit, nice part 6 reference

Love Deterrence is such a good song, bless you

Eh ultimate kars isn't really a pillar man at that point. He's a weird mutant

Hamon is good against vampires Spin is good against... Uhm, dimensional barriers?

Scientists: Perpetual Motion is impossible Gyro: hold my balls

That metal Gear solid music in the back is beautiful!!

What's with the constant moe weaboo shit in my JOJO?

So... Craker Volley Hamon technique is cooler spin?

BEST OUTRO EVER

Loving this video. Also thinking about what would happen if Luffy from one piece combined 2nd gear with Hamon. Where is the music that you are using from this video come from?

You forgot that gyro's balls are not a perfect sphere so it failed, also you forgot to explain how it can be used as a sort of vibration radar or vibration vision seeing how he can use a steel ball to project the human anatomy on a tray of water or the image behind a rock with smoke created by the steel ball. Also i think your are right, against the pillar it would be useless because not only can they learn it right away, they can also reshape their body into the golden rectangle from every aspect and could possibly use infinite rotation with their masteries, Kar's bones, Wammu's wind, and ACDC's blood circulation. Your right, spin is probably more useful than hamon technical wise but hamon is more powerful and more power focused, I mean zepali commented that jonothan had an enormous potential for hamon based on how he made life blussom from his own untrained hamon after zepali jabbed him in the diaphragm. This suggest that hamon's power differs from person to person while spin is just about learning the technique. Also i should mention that Jotaro's mother know's hamon (theory but well backed) if you look at holly from the manga, anime, and ova, she is clearly young but it is well known that she is up there in age, and her stand was vine type like joseph and jonothan, but she's using the lowest level use of hamon.

How strong could Jonathan get if he survived at the end of part 1

took me a second to remember where that song came from

I just realized you put the golden rectangle around kajo's chest, clever. very clever.

that mgs5 love deterrence.

If Hamon lets you control the water in people's bodies couldn't you control their blood and give them a heart attack?

I could only think of paz yelling "time to wrap this up"

Not gonna lie, "Heavens Divide" took me off guard and demanded most of my attention from that point on.

0:45 - Paz?!?!

I wouldn't call the spin convenient. I don't remember part 7 that well, so I could be forgetting something. But don't you need an actual object to use the spin on in order to make it work? I mean sure, I guess you could always take off your shoe and use that as a spin weapon. But I think that versus someone that just needs to breath ten times in one second (Is that right?) leaves you with a time gap.

Everytime I hear hamon I always chuckle a bit since in Spanish it's the word for ham 😂

Love Deterrence in the background

Why the "Love Detterence" in the background again fam?

Spin fucking awesome !!

Great video, the only thing I think you forgot is when Joseph, as an untrained child, knocked a guy out by touching his head and putting hamon in him. Other than that, it was great.

Great video. Good peacewalker music

Good vid dude

I may be super late but straitz used hamon and he is a vampire which killed himself so i think vampires and pillarmen can train and use hamon but they wont cuz it would kill them.

This soundtrack made this video very intense

The pillar men from part 2 used the stone mask to turn themselves into vampire pillar men. Kars and Esidisi were able to most of kill their entire race expect for 2 children because they had the additional power. At least that’s how I see it

kars can not survive the infinite spin. the infinite spin is a attack that more or less killed a character that would not have died in any other fashion (except gold experience requium). kars simply removing a piece of himself after he's been hit would in no way stop his cells from spinning out of existence.

Spin > Hamon

BRO WHAT WAS THAT SONG IN THE VIDEO DURING THE COVERAGE OF HAMON THAT SONG WAS SICK

best outro ever

Gyro: breaks dimensions with spin Ripple is stronger in which case?

I thought that the stand abilities were just an extension of Hamon. So theoretically they should be able to hurt vampires and pillar men.

I just noticed how similar Jonathan’s healing is to Golden Experience

Infinite rotation is the Super Spin done properly. Ballbreaker would have exactly the same effect as Tusk Act 4 if Gyro's steel ball hadn't scraped against Love Train and lost a chunk of itself which threw the spin off of the perfect rotation. This is explicitly stated in the manga itself by Valentine after being hit by it. Tusk does give Johnny some extra control with regard to spatial manipulation (and his nail bullet have a much smaller profile then gyro's steel balls), but the infinite spin is indeed just the super spin done correctly, Tusk just gives Johnny an easier time of landing it than Gyro does.

Spin is best cuz of fidget spinners

Hamon is superior to the Spin in every way. Period. As a martial artist, I can understand what Hamon is supposed to be. Hamon is the whole body generating power within a resonating chamber. The chamber is the center of the body, the dantian, or energy nexus. Chinese martial arts focus on this concept and developing whole body shock impacts. The anime/manga version is obviously ramped to an extreme and overdone level, but the idea is the same. The Spin is dependent on a motion that originates from a kind of "outward" expression, i.e. an easily disrupted motion. Hamon however originates from an internal process. Harder to disrupt. Further its pretty much shown to be capable of nearly anything. Heat? Check. Electric energy? Check. Hardening biological material? Check. Both are ultimately arcane, hard to learn techniques, but one is completely natural and inborn to humans. However...the Spin could ALSO annihilate the Pillar Men. By sniping them. Some spherical projectile launched at high enough speed and force would literally mist a Pillar Man's head. Then you could do the same to the rest of their body til they couldn't regenerate. It doesn't matter what it is, if it has a body that can be damaged and you do enough damage to it, it WILL die.

Really more of a question of power vs versatility

Not to mention that Hamon allows you to see into the future like what Tonpetty and possibly Joseph did