The Tin Trade's Terrible Toll In Indonesia

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8 жыл бұрын

Tin Trouble (2013): Tin is an essential element in consumer electronics and Indonesia is now its biggest exporter. But its poverty stricken miners work in horrendous conditions and the human and environmental toll is proving costly.
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"The most dangerous is when we are buried. I was traumatized", says 25-year-old Yuri, who risks his life illegally diving for tin off the coast. In addition to a steadily rising death toll, local ecosystems are being ravaged by massive deforestation, water pollution, soil depletion and the collapse of fish stocks. "It will take centuries, thousands of years before everything can return to normal", says biologist Eddy Nurtjahya. The Islands of Bangka and Belitung are experiencing a tin rush and with a laissez-faire government and rampant corruption, many are now seeking international pressure to help curb this illegal trade. "If the government doesn't take immediate action Bangka and Belitung will get poorer and poorer."
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@hiomation 4 жыл бұрын

I love how the English subtitles don't match up with what they are saying in English. haha.

@tubetubecommentor4795 4 жыл бұрын

You always need subtitles to translate corporate or politician talk. Always

@dnojno 4 жыл бұрын

indonesian is a very hard language to translate hahah

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging

@jacobturman5602 4 жыл бұрын

Oronamin the comment is about English

@hhhqqq3918 3 жыл бұрын

haahahhaahahahhahahahahhahahhhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha omg lmaoaoo oo o o i cannot stop laughing

@KillerBill1953 6 жыл бұрын

All well and good, but people forget that this was exactly what British workers had to do a few hundred years ago. Blaming modern technology is not going to make things better.

@Kabodanki 6 жыл бұрын

Agree

@gondolacrescent5 5 жыл бұрын

More like 2,500 to a few hundred years ago. Organbuilders on the Continent almost always insisted on using Cornish Tin for their pipework. I suspect Tin was Britains most valuable export for a significant portion of its history. Without Tin (and Copper) there couldn’t have been a Bronze Age.

@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын

@Christina Reynolds in the 1870s Cornwall England was the worlds largest producer of tin with over 2000 mines working. It is estimated that the tin mining in cornwall went on for over 4000 years and only came to a halt on 6 March 1998. There is talk in resuming mining in cornwall again though due to the price of tin. There are monumental deposits under the north sea but only viable if the price is right so they say.

@Baerock 4 жыл бұрын

that is true but people also forget that those brits a few hundred of years ago caused a lot of damaged worldwide with the divide and conquer strategy.

@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын

@@Baerock those brits who where working in mines in UK did nothing to anyone globally as you trying to infer. They where busy working and dieing down mines in conditions that where horrendous. If you had to film their work and show it to people these days, you would feel sorry for them. My Dad left Wales in 1950s because he did not want to work down a mine. That was practically the only work at the time when he grew up. All his school friends ended up in the mines and not one lived past 60. It's a hard life being a miner.

@jamesdecker4166 3 жыл бұрын

It’s such a shame how little they get for the tin. In the US, 8 to 10kg of tin would sell for $120-$150, not $3-$4 😢

@sonnyar7086 3 жыл бұрын

Real translate : 80.000 - 90.000/kg is around 5,5 - 6 dollar US/kg.. 10kg/days = 55 - 60 US dollar/days.. For prespective 60 dollar in indonesia u can buy 10 pack of marlboro cigaretes + 30 cup of cofee + eat 3 time/days for whole week and still have some money to save..

@chanphule6317 3 жыл бұрын

@Jim Smithers they didnt had much choices to earn income so u cant say they "fucked up their home for short term gains".they did this knowing that this wld cause harm to their home but what choices did they have?

@joesr31 3 жыл бұрын

thats why there isn't as much tin mines over there

@jholotanbest2688 3 жыл бұрын

It was not tin but tin ore but yeah the miners get a very small share of the price of thin.

@fukkyoutube 4 жыл бұрын

and yet i sit here watching this on my phone

@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын

Me to

@fukkyoutube 4 жыл бұрын

@icewall flatearth no they are 2 different metals but tin mixed with copper is brass

@draculawolfman1502 4 жыл бұрын

At least you recognize your part of the demand that perpetuates these things. Most people aren't capable of that kind of awareness. Try to consume less bs you don't need and support candidates and legislation that protects the environment and builds infrastructure for recycling

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

@@fukkyoutube kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news

@adamrodgers9175 3 жыл бұрын

It's on your phone yes, but who is really perpetuating their situation. They are being screwed over so someone can make billions. The phone or devices isn't the problem. Buy low sell high, it's how you make profit.

@adriannepeterson6347 2 жыл бұрын

Again- the disparity between wages and work conditions in countries that cannot afford to not to undertake such work for fear of poverty & starvation, and countries that dont care as long as they get their "toys" is so sad & disheartening... And of course- the environmental impact cannot be ignored...Praying for a better way 😣

@rajgill7576 5 жыл бұрын

4:06 dude falls in SO DEEP

@raimonestanol8234 3 жыл бұрын

And then the guy sits with a towel covering his manhood 😂😂😂😂

@jamesvandeusen7311 6 жыл бұрын

This story is a testament to the miners who work supporting their families.Government is probably troubled because these small scale operations are much tougher to control and extort compared to a large mining concession.

@goldassayer93555 5 жыл бұрын

LOL! ILLEGAl means the politicians are not getting a cut of the proceeds. How terrible! LOL!

@memeconnect4489 4 жыл бұрын

that's why the country is so poor

@Katsumi_cute736 4 жыл бұрын

Illegal because the methods are destroying the environment and wildlife

@Crashed131963 4 жыл бұрын

Having 5 kids when you make $3 a day should be illegal. It's called Child Abuse.

@christianderbyshire744 4 жыл бұрын

It's hard work and I'm glad that they keep all the money no need for the government to tell them how to dig a hole 😂

@yusuftegar6588 4 жыл бұрын

@stoeger 2 well, i came from the island (Bangka) and i can confirm that if the higher ranked in the government gets a cut, you will get permitted and even backed up if you have problem. They basically turn blind eye to the problem

@Chillywilly8818 6 жыл бұрын

Damn pretty quick breakdown i need them at my work takes our guys that time to get their tools together

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news

@faggod23 7 жыл бұрын

Love this Documentary 10/10 STARS!! Being an Indonesian, this is a very sad reality here in Banka Belitung. Families try to survive day to day by mining tin.

@thjeokthjeok443 6 жыл бұрын

Ommar what is the government doing ? Its a government responsibility to protect its people . Crooked government ! I dont have an I phone .

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

Ommar hi. Are you blind? Or a criminal? All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Do you know a better way for these people to support there family's? Or should they just starve so the elon musks of this world can get there new rolls royces.

@iceteakilla 6 жыл бұрын

You can blame the industry for the demand of tin but you can easily blame the government for not willing to invest into these operations directly improving the peoples condition. Blaming the products the require the material is not the answer...

@barrymayson2492 5 жыл бұрын

I agree the real problem is poverty and lack of investment which lead to all sorts of illegal dangerous practices to just stop them the people will starve. The high level of corruption in government doesn't help so there is no incentive to change.

@Lex60 4 жыл бұрын

Tin extraction, and other minerals, has been on similar scale way before electricity become a thing. Is just the government not wanting to do anything to improve the people. They watch to the other side, pocketing legal and illegal taxes and claim that their people at least had a job so they can feed their families. And of curse, will turn a blind eye too when these people get cancer or incapacitated by accidents.

4 жыл бұрын

as long as my new phone is deliviered in time....we can all pretend we know nothing about this...right?

@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын

We know about it and I will complain if amazon doesn't get my spare phone delivered within 24 hours just incase mine breaks. Lol

@andrewbarnett2761 3 жыл бұрын

Tremendous respect for there hard work and dedication to there family's. From America

@gramoukdoom 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for raising awareness on this critical matter. I have been to these islands around the time this was shot. From the plane you can see the devastation that is taking place, massive holes everywhere and brown murky waters around the island. This place is so beautiful but is being literally destroyed by our thirst for gadgets and by our planned obsolescence driven society.

@rickylafleur5823 3 жыл бұрын

as you type and watch on said gadget lmfao

@thepixelcatcher298 3 жыл бұрын

Cancer risks seem pretty far down the list when these people are just trying to put food in their bellies day-to-day.

@wthor3572 3 жыл бұрын

Find money for plenty of cigarettes

@hamidijafri 6 жыл бұрын

What the small miner didn't tell you is that there is traces of gold. Since they didn't tell us, there could be more gold there.

@gunlokman 4 жыл бұрын

And yet . . . even in the most appalling conditions on this planet - people have lots of kids! This inevitably makes their situation worse . . . and so it goes on!

@kevinmathewson4272 4 жыл бұрын

sometimes your kids die when you're poor, so you have lots of kids, because leaving progeny on this planet is one of the deepest drives a human being feels, and without that existential sustenance these people have nothing else. They would still be poor even with no kids, and having kids lets them feel like human beings instead of work animals.

@IR-Fan 4 жыл бұрын

there is also an old belief popular in Indonesia that having lots of children would also give you lots of prosperity/ fortune, although that belief was only reliable for middle/ rich class this time.

@Saskguy20 4 жыл бұрын

Supply and demand makes bad things normal.

@skiie 4 жыл бұрын

Only worse thing than being poor is being poor and alone. Its quite honestly the only x factor they have

@likira111 4 жыл бұрын

Gee maybe the places with terrible condition don't have super great access to condoms and abortions.

@peterross97 4 жыл бұрын

One thing that is always overlooked in these videos; without the mining industry, these people would literally have NO way to earn a living.

@peterp4937 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like the industry got some laws passed to make the informal tin mining illegal and everyone just ignores it because its unjust. How is industrial scale mining less destructive? Where are the "truly horrendous conditions"? People work dangerous jobs all over the world. No one is forcing these people to mine.

@Roonasaur 5 жыл бұрын

Industrial scale mining CAN be less destructive, because the volume is large enough to justify paying for safety devices, filters, remediation, etc. Everything goes through the whole chain - economies of scale . . . whereas just one guy in a boat, likely doesn't even know how those things work . . .

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

Peter Hi. Your smart. So many are just sheep. All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. So rich pricks like bill gates gets his cut. Who cares if they starve? The elon musks need there new rolls royce.

@teerificbitch 4 жыл бұрын

@@theaubad1006 Funny that the two names you mention have created more jobs, more value to thousands and millions of people (in Gates' case) than you ever will. But hey, Bill Gates is a rich prick cause he gets paid billions. Ok.

@FinlayDaG33k 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, here in The Netherlands, they want to lower the speed limit from 130km/h to 90km/h to save 0.00000000001% of emmisions... Indonesia: "hold me tin"

@Bexar0000 4 жыл бұрын

Aroop Roelofs I’m sorry that sounds horrible ! Hope that doesn’t happen !

@FinlayDaG33k 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bexar0000 Unfortunately, this apparently already happened, though it is 100km/h. In the evening and night you may go up to 120-130km/h (depending on what is allowed on that specific road) but during the day, 100 is the max you'll find anywhere... I won't be affected my self by it that much at this moment (most roads I drive on where a max of 80 anyways, with the occasional 100) but if I have to travel longer distances, it will be meh... Meanwhile, our neighbours in Germany can gas as much as they want on the highway ("autobahn"), they just aren't insured when they go above a certain speed... but then again, our politicians are pretty much purely driven by left-wingers without a brain (not saying all left-wingers have no brain, just saying the ones that are in charge have none).

@SSG1445 4 жыл бұрын

@@FinlayDaG33k Oh man, this is horrible, slowing the economy and travel. Thanks for info!

@cirelesten 6 жыл бұрын

How is this different then the gold rush? Corporations work with law makers to keep these guys out of work.

@asibeoelmusika5949 6 жыл бұрын

This Documentary din't use under water camera so the viewers can see what is going on under the sea...

@themaster5581 8 жыл бұрын

These videos are very well made and produced, i have been watching the videos about mining, and i was surprised at how much of the work is manual, i thought it would be fully automated. Good luck for future videos, and is there a TV station anywhere these are aired on??

@Del-Canada 5 жыл бұрын

That's where all of the good kratom comes from. Also Sumatra, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, Borneo.

@andrewbarnett2761 3 жыл бұрын

We owe them a great deal

@gooddad3575 6 жыл бұрын

Damn i actually feel bad for these people my life isnt that bad

@heartsfear9216 4 жыл бұрын

@tom tamkins pls elaborate. (actually interested in your views)+

@JT-xd9uc 4 жыл бұрын

Birth control is the answer.

@raymondo162 4 жыл бұрын

......….possibly part of an answer, but I reckon oomans have run their course Darwin-wise

@codybrooks3594 4 жыл бұрын

@@JT-xd9uc you're my hero lol

@IR-Fan 4 жыл бұрын

@@JT-xd9uc and proper sex education.

@cipndale 5 жыл бұрын

The concluding remark is so relieving.

@MikeBaxterABC 6 жыл бұрын

9:09 Why the hell is she talking about Copper now? ... the sea miner said he digs up tin, the story is about tin, copper is not involved .., as she goes on, she is using the terms "Copper" and "TIN" interchangeably??? ... they are not similar at all.

@HobbyOrganist 5 жыл бұрын

However, cell phones and conmputers using tin are included in the story as a reason for the demand, copper is ALSO part of that demand as well as lead.

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

@@HobbyOrganist kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news

@eatingwithhands9078 5 жыл бұрын

just imagine how well of those parents would be if they didnt have kids to feed. Oh well, not their fault they are poor.

@Crashed131963 5 жыл бұрын

If your poor have no kids AT LEAST. Their kids should kill their parents when they grow up for bring them into to join their miserable exsistance.

@sped17373 4 жыл бұрын

They have this mindset that the more children they have, the more workers to earn money for the family. They completely fail to grasp that this also means they have to spend so much more to feed and raise them until they're actually old enough to work any kind of job--and there aren't any jobs that pay enough to offset the costs of having the children in the first place.

@NoNo-uo7rd 3 жыл бұрын

It's just bad family planning in poor areas

@eustaceb547 4 жыл бұрын

i have a question about the guy who lost his leg in the mine..why did he choose to focus on carpentry after losing his limb? from what i very briefly saw of him sitting @ his little woodshop he does good work! I hope he makes way more money doing that rather than mining for tin

@gregs7519 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure he doesn't make as much money. That's like saying people should be happy flipping burgers at McDonalds for minimum wage, instead of working in construction as a crane operator for more money but possibly getting hurt on the job.

@SDeww 6 жыл бұрын

why does this documentary think copper and tin are the same??, they are 2 totally different elements!.

@UserUser-oy8ch 4 жыл бұрын

let's see the guys from Bering sea gold try and mining like this

@cerverg 4 жыл бұрын

I make $3 a day but I have 5 kids.... that's less than $0.5 per day for each member of the family.... I never got how those people think.... they barely have food to eat but they keep on pumping more and more kids...

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

It old news,try looking with new data bro this area is more developing with tourism because student demostran urgent government to stop ilegal mine

@ChuckyIGeRI 6 жыл бұрын

I hope no tin was damaged during the production of this video.

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@punker4Real 4 жыл бұрын

6:41 looks like they can afford satellite very fancy

@foolproofsk4657 4 жыл бұрын

That's the free to air satellite dish, they don't have to pay subscription, they just receive free channels

@IR-Fan 4 жыл бұрын

@@foolproofsk4657 yup basically tv antenna.

@andilanzarote 3 жыл бұрын

You "Punker for Real" could afford obviously... Very fancy Prick...

@wthor3572 3 жыл бұрын

Look at them all huffing cigarettes, modern society has not only let them behind but completely exploited

@ohmrpopo 4 жыл бұрын

Finds gold Throws it away

@ladeda7033 3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂😂😂👍👍👍 then i come through with my detector....... Booom!

@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan 3 жыл бұрын

@@ladeda7033 gold detector....yeah ...sure

@bevlumb6530 4 жыл бұрын

The government might do something about the illegal mining when it's their pockets and the council that is getting hit. I'm afraid it's like everything else money talks.

@TTstone616 4 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the movie Water World. The shit just looks so goddamn primitive! It's amazing their able to do what they're doing

@codybrooks3594 4 жыл бұрын

Damn! That's exactly what I thought😔

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

@@codybrooks3594 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news

@russg1801 5 жыл бұрын

Look at the price they're getting for crude tin - about $1.50 a pound. That's a lot of money for a commodity that still needs to be smelted into industrial-grade metal.

@Automedon2 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much more the planet can stand

@haroldcromack1065 3 жыл бұрын

Not much brother sad

@itburnswhenip 6 жыл бұрын

The talking to them about health risks as they smoke on cancer sticks.. what a wonderful waste of money and resources by everyone "I need to Mine Cancer to buy more Cancer"

@SDeww 6 жыл бұрын

+itburnswhenip ""The talking to them about health risks as they smoke on cancer sticks.. what a wonderful waste of money and resources by everyone"" why do people drive cars?, the once who do, pollute the earth for those who dont!, cars give everyone cancer, destroys the earth climate, and poisens ur rivers and seas!, and you are worried about 1 person giving him self cancer??, yet a person driving a car is giving us all cancer, AND destroys our planet!!

@itburnswhenip 6 жыл бұрын

I reject your reality and substitute my own. One Volcano can spit out more hazardous gases and particulate then I will ever be able to do in my life time, hydro-thermal vents in the ocean floor release more toxic chemicals into the ocean and air, per day then the China or other 3rd world shit holes do, natural Oil seeps spill oil into lakes and rivers constantly, at a rate of 'millions of gallons' per year In the State of California alone, add the whole world and your talking billions of barrels! If you are going to try and make it seem that humans have anything to do with making the world "toxic" you'll need to stop the earth first, because last I checked those chemicals existed in our atmosphere well before humans started driving cars or flying.

@kins1703 5 жыл бұрын

@@itburnswhenip are you trying to blame the nature?

@itburnswhenip 5 жыл бұрын

@@kins1703 Blame? nope... what I was saying is this, If there is a river that already has a natural oil seep dumping hundreds of liters of crude into it annually, and I walk up one day and drop 1 liter of my own crude oil into it, Crazy environmentalist would consider the river to be contaminated only after I added the crude oil in it, when in reality its been contaminated for millennia, and thats a significant fact when talking about climate change and pollution that many simply choose to ignore because its a inconvenient truth.

@markheller197 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t condone but cigarettes kill your hungar

@bobbymobay 4 жыл бұрын

@05:30 they extract 8-10 Kg of tin per day. They make $3-$4 dollars per day. Tin sells at $15.00 USD per kg in 2016 (avg). Be thankful.

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

It old news,try looking with new data bro this area is more developing with tourism because student demostran urgent government to stop ilegal mine

@bluemountaindrivepae 6 жыл бұрын

The land erosion is going to make the floods worse.

@amirrezahabibi2479 5 жыл бұрын

yeah subtitles are way off... just saying different shit

@yukiefromoz2573 4 жыл бұрын

They don't even really need them, I could understand them perfectly fine! Those subs were kind of an insult really.

@russg1801 5 жыл бұрын

Because tin is used to line cans, the word "tinny" acquired a connotation of something that was cheaply made. That's untrue. During WW2 tin was in short supply in the US; that's the principle reason tin cans were recycled. Brass is an alloy of copper and ZINC, which is a cheap metal. BRONZE is copper and TIN, and far stronger. Tin is combined with lead to make electrical and plumbing solder. Because lead is toxic, the amount of tin has been sharply increased, raising the price. Indonesia used to be the Dutch East Indies and we were cut off from tin supply during WW2.

@Lucas_Tulic 3 жыл бұрын

And now, 5 years later, tin dredging in Indonesia is still a thing. Big companies are not gonna vote against that, 'cause illegal dredging/mining is WAAAAAAAAY cheaper than being legal and having all the permits.

@frequencyfluxfandango8504 6 жыл бұрын

So, just as long as you pay a policeman you can do pretty much whatever you want ? Makes me respect the way we do things here, but very interesting doc, Thanks.

@HobbyOrganist 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they say "illegal mines" and they cant stop them, REALLY? all those huts, people, water hoses and equipment all out in the open on an island and yet they cant find them?? funny how we can find one pot plant in a 20 acre field but they cant find a big open mining operation on an island! someone is being paid to look the other way!

@yusuftegar6588 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, pretty much so. I live there and can confirm you that. Pay em up and they act like it never existed. Even protecting them if there is a raid or massive search by telling them first before the raid.

@MrSpaceMees 4 жыл бұрын

"we pay everything" yeah expect your employees.

@qfox16789 4 жыл бұрын

*except

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news

@gantzleny6074 3 жыл бұрын

@@moch.rijalfatoni2570 i don't see any small workers there. what happened to them? all i see is westerners and high ranking officials

@atomipi 6 жыл бұрын

that rad meter was in accumulate mode - counting up, not counting the actual level.. if you leave it for long enough, it will count even higher. trickery to fool them miners

@encinoman903 4 жыл бұрын

7:13 What's with the subtitles? I can understand the guy just fine and I'm sure he went to school to learn English. What an insult.

@Talamathii 4 жыл бұрын

Has there been any changes there as of 2020?

@leahjerez2765 5 жыл бұрын

Around 22:00 this dude is all alone on the beach, trying to scope up tin on what looks to be a Styrofoam plate..(do ya think he needed a fix?)

@boglin 5 жыл бұрын

sad as it is, im gonna say yeah lol, dude was looking mad frantic and i cant assume thats an even slightly effective method of getting tin.

@yusuftegar6588 4 жыл бұрын

Thats actually made out of plastic or sheet of metal. That's not very effective way to mine for sure.

@jimcarden3809 4 жыл бұрын

This is not where commercial tin is made most of it is just mined as ore and shipped off on big ships

@hojoinhisarcher 5 жыл бұрын

When I started pottery in 1979 I read about this exact type of mining in rural Amazonia.Forgive me for not being shocked at this practise.

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

John hi. All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Do you know a better way for these people to support there family's? Or should they just starve so a rich prick like bill gates gets his cut?

@IRosamelia 4 жыл бұрын

People here are saying the english subtitles are wrong. Could you inform us what important or interesting piece of information is lost in translation? 🇮🇩

@sonnyar7086 3 жыл бұрын

Tin price is just wrong..they says 5,5 - 6 dollar us/kg..and they can collect around 10kg each days,its mean 60 dollar/days.. its good money if u live here

@Baerock 4 жыл бұрын

why do they put wrong English subtitles for someone who is speaking English? they're changing his words

@mysterybuyer3738 3 жыл бұрын

I collect pewter that's mostly tin. I think it's a good thing to hold like gold and silver. It will get more valuable.

@cs0345 3 жыл бұрын

Better to hold onto stocks

@mysterybuyer3738 3 жыл бұрын

@@cs0345 I hold lots of stocks but I like holding the actual metal a lot more.

@jholotanbest2688 3 жыл бұрын

When you look at your pewter you can imagen how many have died and suffered for you to hold that.

@mysterybuyer3738 3 жыл бұрын

@@jholotanbest2688 They needed employment. Tin put food on their table.

@geraldashby3117 3 жыл бұрын

Such a sad world for billions of people.....

@grahamt5924 4 жыл бұрын

At 15.15 they say that tin bought in 55 million euros to Indonesia but according to other sources the tin industry for indonesia brought in 1.55 billion us dollars in 2018 and even better results in 2019. Someone is not telling the truth.

@17crowman 4 жыл бұрын

look help these people extra the ore safely and stop turning a blind eye to the truth we are all one planet and help is what they need not criticisms of the way they make a living

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

Michael hi. All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. You know a better way for these people to support there family's? Or should they just starve so a rich prick like bill gates gets his cut? Earning a living is often hazardous and dangerous its called life.

@shirleykoskela6723 4 жыл бұрын

They all look happy and well feed to me

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

Shirley Hi. I like you youre smart. All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Who cares if they starve? The elon musks need there new rolls royces.

@krasje28 4 жыл бұрын

Corruption is the one word why there is nothing happening.

@bryanlint9327 6 жыл бұрын

When it rains it will destroy the hillsides at the mines, possibly destroying the forest.

@ImOldGreggg 3 жыл бұрын

Can no one fuckin help these people? Trillions are made off of electronics. Have we really fallen this far from humanity? This shit breaks my heart.

@lillian9221 4 жыл бұрын

When are governments going to start decent mining techniques, it's not the users of these minerals fault that the countries that have these minerals are also the most CORRUPT!!

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

Lillian hi. All there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. Who cares if they starve? The elon musks need there new rolls royces. Most jobs are dangerous and or hazardous. Its called earning a living. Even working in 7 11 you can be shot .

@romella_karmey 4 жыл бұрын

Wow 4 dollars a day. I just bought online some stuff for 4 dollars plus today and recently. 😭 I will never complain again at things I have.

@theaubad1006 4 жыл бұрын

Khaleesi hi. Yes and all there doing here is taking jobs away from poor people to support there rich friends. The elon musks of thd world need there new rolls royces.

@codybrooks3594 4 жыл бұрын

That little boy's couch at 17:01 ☹😔🙁

@Chris-qf8wr 6 жыл бұрын

I think this is the effects of the free market and freedom to choose one's personal life choices. Although they work in rough conditions but they chose to do it for earning a living wage. And these are different than rough workers, say in a local fishing community, where the work is maybe several times more dangerous and yet less profit. These are people that, even the narrators mentioned, immigrated from neighboring islands such as Sumatra and Java. I think there's a bit of irony when it comes to rough environment work sectors such as mining, oil and gas, ship building, etc. Each work comes with their own consequences. The media would also be enraged if a huge mining company, maybe Rio Tinto or the Indonesian National mining companies, bought the land and gain profit from it.

@drainmonkeys385 4 жыл бұрын

The resort owners should be able to sue the mining dredging boat that destroyed their business

@yusuftegar6588 4 жыл бұрын

The problem here is the mining company there is so big that money that talks there. I actually live there (in Bangka) the resort still open until this day. They still have local tourist time after time.

@jameslatimer1432 3 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable state of River

@rolinavarro6900 4 жыл бұрын

Miners workers of Tin in Indonesia are still poor but the financier or capitalist are going more richer.

@bryanlint9327 6 жыл бұрын

Some people have to work the most terrible of jobs.

@paquitoignacio3449 4 жыл бұрын

The government should encourage foreign investment in Indonesia to help the economy and the people.

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

No its old news looking new data bro ,this area is developing with new face, with tourism spot

@gortnewton4765 4 жыл бұрын

$16450 per tonne on the LME (London Metal's Exchange). They likely get a quarter of that (refining is needed and a lot of other things before it gets to the stage of being sold on the LME). At 5:54 he says they are making double the usual wage and are making 3 to 4 dollars a day. (US$). I spent $2.50 on a kilogram of bananas yesterday!

@nandazakiyyatulmuna3480 3 жыл бұрын

It's not 3/4 dollar but around 7-8 dollar, in indonesia banana is so cheap cause if you live in village, everyone has banana tree, so if you want to eat it, your neighborhood can give you free

@simonwilson6022 4 жыл бұрын

So this is how the planet is paying the price for all the phones, tablets and computer tech we have now. There’s always a down side to new inventions.

@microcontrolledbot 6 жыл бұрын

so the NGO encourages them to not market and not to avoid selling when prices are bad so they stay even more poor?

@ScottWilliamson 5 жыл бұрын

Which explains the popularity of Rin Tin Tin. Yo, rinny!

@faceofdead 4 жыл бұрын

5 kids with 4.50$ per day. Is this life, i am asking ?

@FinlayDaG33k 4 жыл бұрын

Modernday students can learn a thing or two from this when they complain they only have $10 a day.

@Crashed131963 4 жыл бұрын

Having 5 kids when you make $3 a day should be illegal. It's called Child Abuse.

@andreashauschild7757 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is horrible, yes throughout history in all places of the world this has and is happening. But something to remember. Even with all the hard and dangerous work, these people are happy to be able to do this as without this their choices of income would be crime and prostitution.

@RamonChiNangWong078 3 жыл бұрын

I believe you're never heard of those illegal gold mining in south america before it's a attracts all kinds of crimes and prostitution because of it.

@andreashauschild7757 3 жыл бұрын

@@RamonChiNangWong078 Of course any concentration of low income workers in any place in the world will attract that. But I suspect the father that can feed his kid rather then have it starve does not really care about this.

@ascottishgamerx9728 3 жыл бұрын

Hanno the explorer when he finds out there’s bigger Tin islands

@sirfartsalot1328 4 жыл бұрын

Tin a such a major pain in my ass when I'm processing gold filled scrap. Gotta make sure everything gets incinerated real good before hand!

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

It old news,try looking with new data bro this area is more developing with tourism because student demostran urgent government to stop ilegal mine

@creativeandinnovative4932 Жыл бұрын

Oh my God, kerusakan lingkungan seperi itu😢 sedih bangat untuk generasi berikutnya

@dawnhock4545 4 жыл бұрын

The price of metals flexure in the US daily, we Handel recycled metals all the time and u never hear about health hazards here. Everyone is under the impression that life here is so great, the media never informs the world about the millions that are homeless or the working conditions here.

@alfonsosoriano171 4 жыл бұрын

at least the chinese don't exploit that mining area. or else, the local people will eat nothing but sand. i admire the indonesians of succeeding on driving away the chinese. other 3rd world countries should follow them. more power to you indonesian brothers, be strong and always put safety ahead of everything else. your health is very important.

@malakatan3235 4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean driving away Chinese? They driving away white colonist & Japanese colonist.

@alanfarlie9807 2 жыл бұрын

there's many chinese in bangka belitung bro

@donsagucio8619 4 жыл бұрын

tin corresponds to jupiter and there is a tinman in that girl's gang

@grabitz 4 жыл бұрын

People live like shit all over the world. The system sucks.

@UserUser-oy8ch 4 жыл бұрын

the "buyer" can say whatever the price is any way cuz how are miners gonna check?internet,phone?they dont have either

@FinlayDaG33k 4 жыл бұрын

even then, they can just quite easily force it... I mean, whom else are they gonna sell it to? that other guy that pays the same? They don't have much of a choice really... either they sell their goods for ridiculously low prices or they won't have money...

@denisemincher493 4 жыл бұрын

Greed greed at the cost of human life no protective clothing no health and safety this place should be shut down

@shepard267 5 жыл бұрын

i feel offended that they even put subtitle on people who can speak english beside that, great video

@paulieheydrich9772 5 жыл бұрын

Jayakusuma no one cares

@akiray8247 5 жыл бұрын

@@paulieheydrich9772 Why are you so rude? I don't get it.

@Jackson35320 3 жыл бұрын

Food comes first before any health issue

@ropik3947 4 жыл бұрын

Tempat kelahirannya laskar pelangi. semoga pemerintah indonesia bisa mengorganisir penambang timah dengan baik dengan mengutamakan kemanan

@paquitoignacio3449 4 жыл бұрын

As long corruption exists in any country especially in Asia, poor people are most who suffer.

@crazysocial2187 3 жыл бұрын

adakah kerja nie berbaloi hasilnya dengan penah lelah sehari......

@Rama_Dhana234 3 жыл бұрын

thomas Raffles cried releasing the island of Bangka Belitung into the hands of the Dutch.. he said here is the tin island, the richest island in the world...

@goldassayer93555 5 жыл бұрын

The companies that are using tin in their products pay the market price for that tin. If the people of Indonesia want to take the profits from tin sale and put it to work within Indonesia they certainly can pressure their politicians to do that. They can even put an export duty on tin and get rich from tin sales. Of course those companies that use tin will look for better prices elsewhere.

@MannyKunV 4 жыл бұрын

7:29 he must be speaking in some high tier greater dimension form of english bc thats not what i read

@keirangreen7004 4 жыл бұрын

Haha

@moch.rijalfatoni2570 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld6imtNo0JfVc3U.html Look this is new face of bangka bro. Dont judging first looking the latest news

@abcddef2112 3 жыл бұрын

Looking at that radiation level it is possible that another more beneficial mining. Mining for nuclear energy, thorium is the byproduct in monazite waste from tin mining. Since 2020 there is already a nuclear project on these.

@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 4 жыл бұрын

A man can struggle to put 5 damn boys into school, but he can't buy condoms, which would greatly reduce his child burden? C'mon people. This is getting so damned old.

@yusuftegar6588 4 жыл бұрын

He could, but lack of education or simply back in the day they could make more money for his 5 childrens.