THE TRUTH ABOUT SELFLESS BY HYRAM

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Doctorly

Doctorly

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Today, I review the Selfless By Hyram Brand!
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0:00 Intro
1:34 Brand Philosophy
4:18 Packaging
5:15 Centella and Green Tea Cleanser
6:29 Niacinamide Moisturizer
8:18 Salicylic acid and Sea Kelp
10:16 Mandelic acid
12:08 Retinol and Rainbow Algae
13:52 How to choose!
15:00 Pricing

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@Doctorly
@Doctorly 2 жыл бұрын
We feel that our subscribers here on Doctorly represent the best of the online skincare community and we appreciate all of the discussion here on this video. Many of you bring up valid points in the comments in regards to sustainability, pricing, and the marketing of this brand in general. Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion about the brand and Hyram. As consumers, you vote with your wallets and as educated consumers, you are powerful. As far as ingredients are concerned, the products will perform as they are expected to. Like we always say, be deliberate and choose products that you think will benefit you. If you have a routine that you love, no need to switch it up for the new product on the block - stick with what works for you!
@65NART
@65NART 2 жыл бұрын
The best bit of advice ever. Unless you need to change stick with what you know. The old adage of “it ain’t broke don’t fix it” comes to mind. Thank you Sir.
@elinaelina129
@elinaelina129 2 жыл бұрын
Plzzzz help meeee 😓😓😓 i"m confuse between the ordinary azelaic acid suspension 10 or acide salicylique for sentitve skiiin ????
@pappysprite
@pappysprite 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. So you would do the public justice by bringing up skincare lines that are safe, effective, and very affordable. As you both would know more than anyone that skincare line prices are out of control and unnecessary. There are no proven proprietary ingredients (outside of Retina A) that I am aware of that have proven to be anti aging for example. Why would anyone, for example, pay $500 for a jar of La Mer when we know it has not outperformed a basic moisturizer. There are so many of your viewers that are on a very tight $$$ budget and it is time to be real here and not buy into fancy lines, with fancy packaging, that really do nothing better than an $8 moisturizer you can get at a drugstore. FACT.
@Doctorly
@Doctorly 2 жыл бұрын
@@pappysprite we’ve done whole videos on how la mer is overpriced and recommend products from affordable brands in all of our videos. $20-30 for a skincare product is not the cheapest option but it’s a far cry from la mer’s $500 moisturizer. A lot of our favorite products are in the $20-40 range
@pappysprite
@pappysprite 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doctorly Yes. I used that as an extreme example. But even the $30-$40 range is extreme and I believe you deep down agree with that. They offer nothing better than much less expensive brands. Skincare shouldn’t cost more than $8-$10 per full size item (at least 4 to 6 ounces). I’m quite sure whatever product you bring up in a line that costs $30-$40, I could find an equally as effective product for 1/4 or 1/3 of that cost. I’ve spoken to several well respected dermatologists that feel it is criminal to spend that kind of money when you don’t have to. No offense, but we live in a world that continues to become more and more expensive. People should be saving their money or spending it on more important things. I’d love to see a channel like yours promote less expensive alternatives and identify common food ingredients found in a kitchen that can help with everyday common skin problems. If your goal of your channel is just to make money, then perhaps it doesn’t matter. We all know a lot of these KZfaq stars make millions. A new trend should be made in skincare. Lines that actually are very affordable and effective.
@sadiem6758
@sadiem6758 2 жыл бұрын
“I don’t talk to a lot of people so I don’t know how to say things in real life” I felt this 😂
@amandaleggett
@amandaleggett 2 жыл бұрын
I need that on a shirt 😂
@sadiem6758
@sadiem6758 2 жыл бұрын
@@amandaleggett same! Dr. Shah put this on some merch please.
@chelsiterry804
@chelsiterry804 2 жыл бұрын
Same 🤣
@Maria-006.
@Maria-006. 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😭Same
@klopl100
@klopl100 2 жыл бұрын
Felt it to my soul! Read all the academic papers in the world, and when it's time to pronounce them during a zoom meeting, I look stupid lol Decided I'll start reading aloud and practice keywords. Plus I'm Jamaican, already have a barrier lol
@carolinapillow3310
@carolinapillow3310 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie the first red flag I see is that it says it works for all skins... I’ve always found that to not be true in my experience. I feel like skincare isn’t a one size fits all. I have extremely dry skin and there’s just no way to me that someone with oily skin can use the same products I do...
@nataliechaput9293
@nataliechaput9293 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve seen comments from people with fungal acne saying many of the products have known irritants for fungal acne in them and they can’t use them. I feel like fungal acne is pretty common so he’s definitely excluding a large amount of consumers from that alone! not even to mention everyone else like you with dry skin too!
@carolinapillow3310
@carolinapillow3310 2 жыл бұрын
@@nataliechaput9293 yeah most of the products he said were better for oily skin. So if that’s the case how about not market it for all skin types... sounds like a typical marketing scam which is very disappointing considering how well respected hyram seems to be In the skin care community...
@stephaniem5188
@stephaniem5188 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could recall which video hyram said this in but he’s definitely said in the past to stay away from Products that are for “all skin types” bc it’s just not possible
@carolinapillow3310
@carolinapillow3310 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniem5188 he seems to contradict himself a lot if we’re being honest.... he’s been caught a few times doing this now that I think about it.
@Braelynne713
@Braelynne713 2 жыл бұрын
@@nataliechaput9293 it’s true I have fungal acne and I looked at the ingredients and I can’t have some so it’s tuff to find ingredients for all skins it’s mostly impossible!!! I feel like…
@nageenaahmadzai339
@nageenaahmadzai339 2 жыл бұрын
Doctorly, could you please enable the CC for me? I am Deaf and would love to watch your video. :)
@iiLuvvEminem
@iiLuvvEminem 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could help you out.
@wynnk88
@wynnk88 2 жыл бұрын
Up uwu
@69231
@69231 2 жыл бұрын
same, it’d be nice for youtube to allow subscribers to participate in making cc or something that useful
@beatrizfontes5645
@beatrizfontes5645 2 жыл бұрын
it would help those people that English is not its first language as well :)
@christineszlobodnik7814
@christineszlobodnik7814 2 жыл бұрын
it will pop up in next few hours hopefully. im deaf too!
@measbeauty
@measbeauty 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my thing, instead of him donating from the profit he makes, he added the donation on to the price of the products, so it's us donating not him!
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@gracez593
@gracez593 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@michelletidler6773
@michelletidler6773 2 жыл бұрын
So you want to pay more for it? This guy is extremely wealthy thanks to his you tube channel. I certainly dont think I care to pay more for a donation as Im sure hes not hurting in $ side of things.
@teletubbiestunetwister9570
@teletubbiestunetwister9570 2 жыл бұрын
Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner here!! Michelle, she is not saying that we should pay more... She is saying that we ARE paying more - the higher price - for the products so that Hyram gets HIS pay AND he gets to say that a donation is being made. He could have simply done the product, kept the prices similar to others from the brand, and donated any of his personal profit. The guy is a millionaire so doesn't need any more money. He's not a struggling youtuber. He's a sharp business man who knows EXACTLY what he is doing and how and why. And it's not for all of us. I can't stand the rich donating and getting credit for it. Bezos donates and people cheer... But he's donated to get tax breaks and he's donating money that should go to his workers pay and benefits... Let them donate it if they don't need it for living.
@KrystenStrunck
@KrystenStrunck 2 жыл бұрын
Just like most brands lol not surprised
@bbsail
@bbsail 2 жыл бұрын
Already some other dermatologist said. "If you want to be environmentally conscious don't create another source of waste". The products look good as Inkey list has been, but pricey
@zeynep-9976
@zeynep-9976 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree because the products brands come up with can depend on consumers and what they'll respond to. If the brand is successful enough to influence the rest of the industry and pushes them to also be more environmentally conscious, it is going to have a great positive impact. I guess we just need to wait and see.
@lorimoore5589
@lorimoore5589 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's true because you won't continue use your old product if you buy a different Brand, your just going to replace it for the new one. Plus I hate this thing people do where they try an find ways people who are trying to do good things fall short. It's not an all or nothing thing. If Hyram had no say in his products being in plastic containers but will use part of profits to donate to causes them he is doing more than most of us do. At least he doing something to help an if he said no to this line then he wouldn't have the extra income to put towards causes he feels strongly about. I think we sometimes forget these people are not making a lot of the decisions we disagree with but if they try an do something to offset things they were not in control of that's good enough for me.
@Momofukudoodoowindu
@Momofukudoodoowindu 2 жыл бұрын
@@MK-gs4tumaybe he means removing CO2 by means of less plastic, wherein the polymer is made from gasoline, that which CO2 is released in the factories... but thats a reach, considering its not common knowledge to the majority and I've arrived at that conclusion by pure conjecture.
@ramonagrunder6780
@ramonagrunder6780 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! That is what I was think so many times already.
@TheQuintanaRoo
@TheQuintanaRoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeynep-9976 this is the perfect response I think any rational person would want-a brand forcing others to do the same. A genuine spark. That would be great extraordinary. That being said, we do indeed have to wait and see, but this is complete and utter idealism, and bottom line, this is more waste. Recycling differs from area to area so in many cases hyram’s stuff will just be more waste. This is line is unnecessary, end of story. I can only pray your idealism holds true in some tiny way.
@dip5635
@dip5635 2 жыл бұрын
His line is a good example of just because you can doesn't mean you should
@action1679
@action1679 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how he says “We, ours, us” even though he’s alone right now. He’s a REAL ONE💯
@sparkswolverine
@sparkswolverine 2 жыл бұрын
I love it.
@monermccarthy7198
@monermccarthy7198 2 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@roopalsingh4384
@roopalsingh4384 2 жыл бұрын
I like that he always says “we” even when he’s alone in most of the videos. So nice😋🥰😍
@sm3675
@sm3675 2 жыл бұрын
He is married and religious. 😑🤦‍♂️
@blobster91
@blobster91 2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate Dr maxfields smoldering at all times.
@sparkswolverine
@sparkswolverine 2 жыл бұрын
At ALL times.
@delanosmall6912
@delanosmall6912 2 жыл бұрын
Girl, Dr Shah has a much better personality, which translates well to bed side manner professionally and personally 🤔
@annestep6741
@annestep6741 2 жыл бұрын
@@delanosmall6912 well we don't really know about Dr Maxfield by the bedside do we? They are both adorable
@SilviaGarcia-pt1lu
@SilviaGarcia-pt1lu 2 жыл бұрын
@@delanosmall6912 I agree, I don't know them in person but Doc M appears bored or something. I enjoyed this video a lot more :)
@blobster91
@blobster91 2 жыл бұрын
@@delanosmall6912 yes Dr Shah is the vibrant one with a great on screen presence.
@sasuxsakuxfan
@sasuxsakuxfan 2 жыл бұрын
Why listen to an influencer who calls themselves a "specialist" with no history of being one ever when you can listen to doctors who been in school for 8+ years?? make it make sense
@kaylaannstation2740
@kaylaannstation2740 2 жыл бұрын
i mean yeah . But Hyram is indeed a skincare specialist and even dermatologist approved him . no hate though
@Lola-oy6fm
@Lola-oy6fm 2 жыл бұрын
All you can say is that he isn’t a dermatologist? He is a specialist! he is smart and has passion for his work. If his informations weren’t correct dermatologists wouldn’t support him and they would tell us right away! Thats a fact if you agree or not.
@ambergerhelper7852
@ambergerhelper7852 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t, because it doesn’t. Listen to a professional, not an influencer.
@1rimmad1
@1rimmad1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lola-oy6fm :/ I don’t think the main argument was that he isn’t smart or to knock his work ethic. Just pointing out facts that he ISNT board certified and in an over-saturated market people would much rather trust products and recommendations from someone who has the certification as opposed to a kid on the internet who has done x hours worth of research. :) Also this dermatologist is his friend as is Susan Yara etc and whilst they may not want to, that friendship to some extent makes their reviews somewhat biased even if unintentionally.
@brooklynlea
@brooklynlea 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lola-oy6fm he claims to be a specialist but has very little or no proof of an educational background for it. I think he only got the “specialist” name because he worked for a skincare brand and was an beauty counter/sales representative. I’m not saying he isn’t smart, but there’s a difference between self taught by reading on google vs. going to actual school for it. I agree with the other comments, if he isn’t certified then many people are over crediting him. I think he does a great job spreading good information, but he does not have as reliable knowledge as other certified creators.
@photohey9856
@photohey9856 2 жыл бұрын
Hyram has dragged multiple brands for the ingredients he has in his own product😐. After he drags a skincare brand he just promotes the one that is sponsoring him without saying he is sponsored. There is a lot more to that. I stopped following him.
@Momofukudoodoowindu
@Momofukudoodoowindu 2 жыл бұрын
I've never liked Hyrams attitude... the persona he presents online, at least. It always comes across very condescending.
@karincope3019
@karincope3019 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of his either , find him very fake and condescending.
@elizaheathen
@elizaheathen 2 жыл бұрын
which ingredients?
@starlight1818
@starlight1818 2 жыл бұрын
i follow him but prefer watching derms and estheticians anyway, still... can't please everyone, but i'm genuinely curious about what ingredients you're referring to?
@danieljalomojr5856
@danieljalomojr5856 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Hyram either. I finding him annoying, condescending, and really phony. And how can these Derms say they are friends w/Hyram and provide an honest non biased opinion on Hyrams line?
@Lintrovert
@Lintrovert 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty shocked there isn’t a sunscreen
@ladybuggs11
@ladybuggs11 2 жыл бұрын
Sunscreens take longer to release because there is a process they have to go through for approval.
@gracebubier3021
@gracebubier3021 2 жыл бұрын
It’s coming out next year!
@nikki2370
@nikki2370 2 жыл бұрын
Riight
@Julie86Mac
@Julie86Mac 2 жыл бұрын
Sunscreen takes much longer to produce because it has to go through the FDA, as sunscreen is considered a drug.
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines
@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines 2 жыл бұрын
It has to be FDA approved first
@lola.odetola
@lola.odetola 2 жыл бұрын
here for the truth
@asifnothingeverhappend
@asifnothingeverhappend 2 жыл бұрын
The only unbiased review for this brand comes from Dr Dray. She doesn't suck up to Hyram like all his other skincare friends. Their reviews need a disclaimer for being completly biased.
@vanyc5716
@vanyc5716 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Dr Dray is no nonsense and actually recommends affordable skin products for her audience. Love her!
@BedboundME
@BedboundME 2 жыл бұрын
Dr dray Looks too much thro a dry skin lense. She didn’t appreciate enough that oily skin people need a gel light moisturiser so it’s great
@808DooTS
@808DooTS 2 жыл бұрын
Cassandra Bankson seems pretty capable of throwing away any bias with her reviews imo.
@OYJluv
@OYJluv 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! She was so professional!
@dcnannen4319
@dcnannen4319 2 жыл бұрын
@@808DooTS agreed
@chadspro
@chadspro 2 жыл бұрын
All I am going to say is I think it's very telling when people who come out with their own line's continue to use products cherry picked from other brands.
@1shu
@1shu 2 жыл бұрын
You mean kylie
@maggyhamada2560
@maggyhamada2560 2 жыл бұрын
Really, no offense to anyone, but I"m pretty sure if these products were created by an unknown Joe, reviews by all these Doctor and aesthetician youtubers would most likely be harsher and more critical of the products. There is no such thing as putting your biases or subjectivity aside when you're good friends with someone.
@deniselawrence8758
@deniselawrence8758 2 жыл бұрын
You are such a nice human! Why can’t everyone think like you? I love watching your videos! Thanks for being you 😊
@kaslayton
@kaslayton 2 жыл бұрын
Including the time stamps on your videos is SO HELPFUL!!! Appreciate the thoughtfulness for your viewers
@SVKD98
@SVKD98 2 жыл бұрын
They've use 5% of cosme phytami centella(which has abt 94%glycerin, 5% water and 1% asiaticoside) and 3% cosme phytami green tea(Glycerin above 95% and caffein). I'd rather have him put them in leaveon products. Effectively you have 0.05% asiaticoside and abt 0.04% caffein in then end product. Thats y its below Phenoxyethanol. Also this product doesnt have deposition system that will deliver the extracts to your skin. They'll just wash off. So know that even if it works for you it isnt the extracts that worked for you because in any cleanser without potent actives like GA, SA, BPO etc its not the extracts that are working but the base surfactant formula which is showing results. For any cleanser, 90% of the effects are due to in actives. Also 26 bucks for 50ml moisturizer,? Hell no. Let's not even go into prices. Also his donating is very technical. On website it say he only donates when you buy a SERUM. I'll probably prefer hylamide cleanser for 20 bucks which has pretty superior tech than his basic cleanser or even LRP which gives 400ml for 14 bucks. Also about his retinol, its 30 bucks for 1ounce which is super super expensive. Retinol is eq to 0.2% and rainbow algae which pretty much is a gimmick. He could've just put normal algae. I have much superior products at much cheaper price points. Also the donations which he's so hyping about will give him tax benefits. He's talking money from consumers and donating from company accounts to get tax deductions. I'd rather donate money myself bcz it gives me more control over where i want to donate and choose the cause myself. I'd rather buy good cheap products and donate some money myself which will still be more than what he donates and also don't give him tax benefits from my money. He says I created a brand which sparks social change when in reality its the consumers money that's going to charity and also giving him tax benefits. Basically he using customers money to reduce his company's carbon footprint while selling them the idea HE has done this. Also about bioplastics. They're still plastics and are pretty similar to normal plastics. Most of recycling places dont have proper infrastructure to recycle this. Plastics are actually recycled more than glass. So I'd rather have him use normal plastic and reduce the pricing and have a recycle/reuse program separately in brand where he can recall all the used packaging and reuse or recycle them. It'll still be a lot cheaper than his marketing. Bioplastics are just giving him marketing material. You know whats more sustainable? Not creating a brand if you cant compete with cheapest in the market. Because at this point market has become so saturated with actives that people don't need more. I knw this for a fact that he's never even going close to big players which have cheap products and also have charity programs. Most companies today have some or the other kind of chartiy programs integrated into their brands and still they're much much cheaper than his expensive brand with basic formulations. Combining all this is a massive greenwashing and justifying his price point. I remember he used to recommended more affordable products and then he signed with YTTP as "specialist" which tbh isn't even a thing. He didn't even disclose his partnership with YTTP. He's contradicting pretty much all the principles he has worked upon since start just because its his own brand. So I'll take his own advice that don't fall for the marketing and I'll buy product which are more cheap and work for me and I'll donate the money myself and get the tax benefits for myself.
@indrar7766
@indrar7766 2 жыл бұрын
best comment
@KrisD007
@KrisD007 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I didn’t know this
@jelena27
@jelena27 2 жыл бұрын
You put this so eloquently and covered everything I was thinking 😄
@ingupin
@ingupin 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the recycling point. Having recollection programs for proper recycling should be a priority for any self-proclaimed 'sustainable' brand.
@leylanipaola
@leylanipaola 2 жыл бұрын
hi! just to clarify he stopped recommending the simple cleanser because it was discontinued in the US!
@elin_
@elin_ 2 жыл бұрын
His whole brand rubs me the wrong way for some reason.. Dramatic promotion, not disclosing how many percent that goes to charity, many of the good ingredients are below phenoxyethanol etc.. I also heard that if a company donates to charity they will get a tax deduction.
@orozcoaj69
@orozcoaj69 2 жыл бұрын
The promos are pretty cheesey 🤯😝
@lyubo_stan
@lyubo_stan 2 жыл бұрын
He’s basically donating the profit to 2 organizations. You can go check them out for more info
@richysarney44
@richysarney44 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Hyram was selfless enough to give a goodie bag of free product to that black african lady pumping the fuck out of that water pipe in the promo vids? Least she deserved for her cameo was some free overpriced skincare, in tiny unsustainable packaging with weak gimic formulations but it isn't even available in her country to buy. I guess at least Hyram aims to donate 10% of proceeds...... Social change my arse and the narcissism is on another level. I don't think Hyram is a bad guy at all but he's been really badly advised on this and looks such a hypocrite for so many reasons.
@elin_
@elin_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@lyubo_stan "hoping to donate 10%" doesn't mean that he will.
@cdd4248
@cdd4248 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Kensingtonhawk
@Kensingtonhawk 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, he isnt up front about his natural skin and use filter during videos and IG stories. However, today during the pre launch ig live, i got to see his skin without filter and although its nice, it isnt what people claim it to be. Similar to how trisha paytas came out with her skincare line however her real skins isnt even close to how it looked in her marketing video. Also, the packaging aint revolutionary, its been done by multiple other brands and $30 for a 1.7 oz serum?? HELLO?? HIS MARKETING SCREAMED WHITE SAVIOUR as well.
@DanielFolsom
@DanielFolsom 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, while I'm probably not going to purchase this, I'm not sure I care about what his skin looks like. There are people who have incredible skin-insanely amazing skin-and their skincare routine is either insanely overdone (hey there Jada Pinkett Smith!) or basically non-existent; they're like "lol i just use shampoo on my face." A lot of this is genetics. And just because someone's skin isn't perfect doesn't mean their skincare routine or products are bad, in the same sense that just because their skin is perfect doesn't mean their routine/products are good. As to the white savior thing ... idk, he does live in Hawaii and always talk about sustainability (especially regarding the coral reefs) and also marketing towards subpopulations that have traditionally been ignored by the skincare industry. I think the line here is tough. Would it really be better if he continued to ignore, for example, black people, as a lot of the industry has? Surely no, but then intentional inclusion can come off as being a white savior. YMMV.
@DanielFolsom
@DanielFolsom 2 жыл бұрын
@@MK-gs4tu To be fair, that's because (for whatever reason) they're basing their charitable giving on sales rather than profit, which is really unusual. That corner of the website also says they'll publish reports on their giving every 6 months.
@DanielFolsom
@DanielFolsom 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MK-gs4tu You could always wait and see how much they actually give (and how transparent they are) rather than have this strong a reaction to, yes, an ambitious "ambition" that's difficult to guarantee in light of the fact that 10% of sales is a huge number and could quite plausibly threaten the brand's existence. Now, you could be saying "I want more specifics about what they'll do from this brand that launched ... uh ... today." But those are also provided: "Over the next 12 months, we have committed to protecting 2,500 acres of tropical forest from deforestation through our partnership with Rainforest Trust, storing over 370,000 tonnes of C02." And AGAIN ... I'm not saying this is an insanely charitable brand. We don't know yet. We'll see if their commitment to transparency holds up. But your reaction is pretty extreme.
@DanielFolsom
@DanielFolsom 2 жыл бұрын
@@MK-gs4tu You're asking for a guaranteed percentage of sales before the brand has launched? ... Alright. (Also-update, you shouldn't have to wait six months! While they say they'll be releasing full reports every six months, they also say after they launch that they'll provide regular updates.) And again, you're making a weird number of assumptions. If you're jaded, I understand, but just now you literally made up a hypothetical out of thin air and then switched to saying "that's definitely what he's what he's doing." (Notice the switch from "I" to "he": "If I gave Unicef $1, I could legally claim that I have actively contributed to the increase of funding in social welfare for underprivileged children in 192 countries around the world; it's technically true! So he's basically taking credit for everything that charity has ever done since it opened.")
@DanielFolsom
@DanielFolsom 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MK-gs4tu I actually don't watch any of his videos! I do watch Doctorly-I just prefer dermatologists to estheticians and lay people. I just find it interesting that you're making so many assumptions. For example, you still don't see how you've switched around the charity example. His words are: ​*Over the next 12 months* we have committed to protecting 2,500 acres of tropical forest from deforestation through our partnership with Rainforest Trust, storing over 370,000 tonnes of C02. You've said "Oh he's taking credit for what the charity already did." ... But that makes absolutely no sense. For one, it's a future commitment, ("Over the next 12 months.") and it's actually distinct from the charity's commitment for the year. (So the whole theory of "he's donating a small amount to charity and then taking credit for everything the charity does" has gone out the window.) For two, and this is key, the idea that it's already done or not tied to brand's donations doesn't gel with this, also from the website (on how you can track them and verify the brand's charitable giving): *The social impact of the brand, delivered through your purchases, will be updated with progress every month, showing how many acres of rainforest were saved and how many community water projects delivered. You’ll be able to see exactly where this impact has gone.* I'm aware of the corporate speak and the non-concrete promises. I know you like to talk about language drawn up by a lawyer, as a recent graduate of law school, I'm familiar. What's just surprising to me is that you've gone straight into "He's definitely lying and making weaselly promises so he can get out of them later," when Occam's razor would suggest a much simpler solution: He has no idea how the brand will do, so he cannot commit to a certain percentage of sales going to charity. All of this is rather pointless: If, in a month or less, we see that he hasn't provided any updates or isn't donating to charities, we can continue this chat, if you like! But all you're doing right now is speculating with no basis. (In the meantime, I do think it's worth noting that things beyond charitable giving-such as ingredient sourcing, sugarcane packaging, and other commitments are currently checkable, which, for me, adds some validity to the claims. But I completely understand saying "I want to wait and see." That makes sense! What doesn't make sense is the weird confidence you have in "it's all fake!!")
@Zenmasterzzz
@Zenmasterzzz 2 жыл бұрын
A “skin care specialist” who worked at Saks as a make up artist who gives advise on skin care, why would I buy from him? The price point is way too high for the amount of product you are getting and you can get the same ingredient for far cheaper with other brands. No thank you, I rather spend my money elsewhere. This is such a cash grab and I hope his young fans realize this.
@leahcarnevale7340
@leahcarnevale7340 2 жыл бұрын
I used to really like his videos when I came across them like 2 years ago. Then I stated looking more into it because I waw curious why he called himself a 'specialist' rather than a more official title that would be indicative of formal education, or just 'enthusiast', as many skinfluencers seem to be. Turns out his formal training is that of a sales person for youth to the people... (at least as far as I have been able to see). It seems really disingenuous and manipulative, like he's actively trying to establish his authority, yet has zero qualifications. What's wrong with just being interested in skincaer? Nothing! Just don't try to fool vulnerable young people into thinking you're educated so they'll buy the products you recommend (though your affiliate links, of course). just gross.
@Zenmasterzzz
@Zenmasterzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@leahcarnevale7340 tell me about it. For a year he raved about youth to the people, and I gave in to it and bought the product and found out that he was affiliated with them on a level that is more of an employee relationship as if he worked there and that’s when I began to look at him more closely. In some of his videos he raves about a product that is sponsored eventhought it had fragrance in it and other products that is not sponsored he called out the fragrance specifically, makes you wonder how much he actually like the brand or he likes it because of the money he is receiving. His opinion changes base on his sponsorships.
@farahjichi4617
@farahjichi4617 2 жыл бұрын
You realize he has experts who are responsible for the laboratory and scientific prodovtion and design of the products? Do you think he is making them in his kitchen? Do you think the owners of most popular and successful skin care brands are expert themselves on skin care?
@Zenmasterzzz
@Zenmasterzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@farahjichi4617 yea you’re right. Some people just slap their name on something just for the money.
@midlifemom5829
@midlifemom5829 2 жыл бұрын
Now that Hyram is pitching his own stuff, can I get my hands on some Cerave ?!
@jodiehenry4334
@jodiehenry4334 2 жыл бұрын
I know, RIGHT?????????? I can't get Cerave to save my life! Sheesh! Out of stock everywhere!
@MichieKy
@MichieKy 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 ikr!
@bodnarova05
@bodnarova05 2 жыл бұрын
lol right? 🐑🐑
@NG-yf8ls
@NG-yf8ls 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss! I went to get my usuals only to be told they went viral on tiktok and social media and they didn’t have any in stock and wouldn’t for a while!
@jodiehenry4334
@jodiehenry4334 2 жыл бұрын
@@NG-yf8ls I use the SA cream for K.P. and it's nowhere in stock, and it was $85 on amazon! I'm like, WTF? On their website, they said that they recently started selling in Australia and that's causing an issue with supply!
@nellis9377
@nellis9377 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't talk to a lot of people" - me, someone whose social life is 98% virtual, felt this in my soul 🤣
@DetectiveHouse
@DetectiveHouse 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone and their mother seems to be coming out with a new skincare line. 🙄
@bodnarova05
@bodnarova05 2 жыл бұрын
And alcohol brand 😂
@kawakibkaouther298
@kawakibkaouther298 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly like makeup or clothing lines
@MarissaCooperButPoor
@MarissaCooperButPoor 2 жыл бұрын
Shereene Idriss is coming out with hers 💀💀💀 I-
@whispersamungtrees
@whispersamungtrees 2 жыл бұрын
At least skin care is on Hyrams brand 🤷🏼‍♀️
@paolasejasayala6472
@paolasejasayala6472 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarissaCooperButPoor Really? Well good for her! She is a dermatologist who has worked in the cosmetic industry but I don't think I will be able to buy them
@MoniqueXSM
@MoniqueXSM 2 жыл бұрын
Won’t be purchasing for a ton of reasons but notably, the amount of product you get for the price? I would have must rather Hyram invest in the Inkey List brand than to create his own brand powered by the Inkey List. That’s more sustainable in the long run. Wish him all the best regardless.
@drshepherd9362
@drshepherd9362 2 жыл бұрын
I think the price is reasonable for the amount of product. I can see these easily lasting almost 3 months with the amount of product you would use, I think that’s really good. Don’t forget, some of the products like the retinol and exfoliant most likely wont be used everyday by some extending it’s usage life.
@MoniqueXSM
@MoniqueXSM 2 жыл бұрын
@@drshepherd9362 that’s fair but retinol can be used everyday (which a lot of people do), once you’ve built tolerance & a lot of these products are very mild (albeit for sensitive skin). For someone like myself that uses prescription retin-a & sees a dermatologist, there’s nothing this line can bring to the table for me. There’s nothing overtly revolutionary here & a lot of other brands (example, FaceTheory, Geek & Gorgeous, even Paula’s Choice have products that are as well-rounded / more well-rounded than the treatment products here). For the basics, the cleanser & the moisturizer (for me) the price point is large especially for the amount of product you’re receiving -these are items you’d be using everyday. To each their own & I was just stating why I won’t be supporting the brand. I didn’t state why the brand shouldn’t be supported but merely why I won’t be supporting.
@sunscreenhoarder6558
@sunscreenhoarder6558 2 жыл бұрын
@@mertcanaksut5653 it doesn't justify a $10-15 markup from inkey list pricing when the production costs are already likely very low. For reference, the ordinary's niacinamide costs something in the range of $0.05 per bottle to make. Hyram's products cost an couple of dollars per unit overall *max*.
@MoniqueXSM
@MoniqueXSM 2 жыл бұрын
@@mertcanaksut5653 “sustainability” is much more than what’s packaged here. There are numerous of companies that are known as B-corporations with positive environmentally sourced ingredients & packaged to be environmentally conscientious with price points that are more accessible to the everyday consumer. Again, feel free to support the brand (didn’t say that others shouldn’t support) but also respect that others don’t need to / want to support for numerous reasons.
@sabinajoh
@sabinajoh 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoniqueXSM Just some math to estimate how long it will last Let’s say you use 5 drops per time/day. There’s 20 drops in 1ml That means you can use it for 4 days to use 1ml I think the serums are 30ml? 30x4= 120 days. That’s a little under 4 months which is pretty awesome. I think I gotta buy the salisylic acid serum because anything that lasts that long i good in my book lol
@stacylbrewer
@stacylbrewer 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I always wonder about Hyram is, what are his qualifications that make him a skin care "expert?" Did he go to school for this? Has he had any hand on experience with working on peoples faces? Not to be a Debbie Downer, but why do so many ppl take advice from him if he doesn't have these qualifications?
@nataliechaput9293
@nataliechaput9293 2 жыл бұрын
he has an undisclosed partnership with Youth To The People where his title with them is “specialist”…. evidently, he took it way further
@taiyabazaheer9492
@taiyabazaheer9492 2 жыл бұрын
My dermatologist had 'skincare specialist' written on his prescription papers and pamphlets. He has MBBS (basic medical school degree all doctors need before masters in India) and MD in Dermatology from the top-notch medical school in India. He has 28+ years of experience treating skincare issues especially acne. Now Hyram on the other hand has none of that. He's educated but his qualification is in the arts. My dermatologist didn't exactly give me the best advice (he suggested products full of irritating fragrance and didn't prescribe sunscreen) and I already started seeing sm1 new and would now see sm1 even more dedicated. I'm not against Hyram because his advice can be good. He should just stop equating himself to a 'specialist' . He's just an enthusiast.
@rakong246
@rakong246 2 жыл бұрын
@@taiyabazaheer9492 derms aren't the best people to get recommendations from regarding products as their training lies in a different domain (skin disease and treatment, predominantly). For this, cosmetic chemists and aestheticians are way more reliable for product recs! I fully agree that Hyram doesn't have a single qualification to be giving out any credible "advice" but he can give an opinion that people can choose to follow or not. Medical professionals of all kids really get the shaft on social media compared to these influencers who have zero qualifications but are good at marketing and are likeable.
@rakong246
@rakong246 2 жыл бұрын
In short, because most medical professionals lack the marketing skill that influencers (who have zero training or qualification for giving such advice) have. People need to wake up and start taking advice from the pros.
@aniraz90s
@aniraz90s 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have to be a dermatologist. He doesn't need qualifications because he learned and understand the ingredients in a product. He did his own research and he expands his knowledge through it. If you have skills and talent in something you are passionate about, you don't need to be certified. If you don't trust him on his knowledge then simply don't take his advice. The only reason i trust him is because he can read and understand all those ingredients on the back of the product that sounds and looks like alien to me. He explained each ingredients very well and the products he recommended are working very well for my sensitive skin. I watched various youtubers who learned about the ingredients in each product and I can say that i trust Hyram with his knowledge.
@karincope3019
@karincope3019 2 жыл бұрын
I think that I am one of the few that is not a fan of Hyram . He’s another influencer who he promotes what is sponsoring him with out being upfront that he’s being sponsored .
@olivial5558
@olivial5558 2 жыл бұрын
...except he always says if he's sponsored...
@ginar51
@ginar51 2 жыл бұрын
You would do the same thing if you had the chance.
@elin_
@elin_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@olivial5558 lol no he doesn't
@arctic2921
@arctic2921 2 жыл бұрын
@@ginar51 that certainly says a lot about you...
@nujhat424
@nujhat424 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it illegal to not disclose sponsors? It’s serious if he isn’t upfront
@RJ-sd6uc
@RJ-sd6uc 2 жыл бұрын
Won't buy his, he talks about bad ingredients so many times but end up keep on promoting brands that have bad ingredient that he talk about because he received PR from them. He only in it for the money.
@kaylaannstation2740
@kaylaannstation2740 2 жыл бұрын
show me where . He even stated in his videos that he rejected brands that wants him to do a PR for products that contains harmful ingredients / fragrance .
@RJ-sd6uc
@RJ-sd6uc 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaylaannstation2740 go to BLUEMJ Channel & Jordan Sparks, they have exposed him with Receipts.
@kaylaannstation2740
@kaylaannstation2740 2 жыл бұрын
@@RJ-sd6uc thank youu , i will be checking that out
@gennaa6111
@gennaa6111 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe if he disclosed the exact percentage going to the charities I would consider buying his line, but I don’t know if I’m paying $30 for a product and $1 is donated or if $15 is donated, there’s a big difference, and considering the fact they are twice the price of regular inkey list products tells me that they saw this as a chance to make huge bucks and not really about sustainability and helping people, but rather helping their pockets grow. If they are planning to donate 10% there should be a 20% increase (10% to donate and 10% for Hyram) but instead it’s over 200% increase 👎🏻
@Sofia-dt1if
@Sofia-dt1if 2 жыл бұрын
I think he aims to donate 10%
@gigistrailsandtales7203
@gigistrailsandtales7203 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sofia-dt1if define “aims” please?
@Sofia-dt1if
@Sofia-dt1if 2 жыл бұрын
He is planning to donate 10% (wants to donate 10% in the future but is not at that percentage right now)
@carltonbanks2351
@carltonbanks2351 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy Hyram got this opportunity, he seems like such a nice guy! I might not buy his products (because I already have a routine that works thanks to Doctorly) but I hope it does well nonetheless :) Thanks for the honest review, Dr. Shah
@simplysharonxo
@simplysharonxo 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me. I just started Curology and don’t want to mess my skin up by incorporating something new 😬
@Doctorly
@Doctorly 2 жыл бұрын
Love this comment!! Definitely don't buy anything you don't need!
@giadafurno5986
@giadafurno5986 2 жыл бұрын
“I read a lot, but I don’t talk to a lot of people” what a mood
@supriyagour2892
@supriyagour2892 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited to see derms reacting to Hyram's product launch! I bought all 5 products, but it's so relieving to hear that the products really do seem to be all he's promising they are. Thank you for your review! I've never clicked on a video so fast. Lol
@dominiksagan9622
@dominiksagan9622 2 жыл бұрын
The whole line costs around 120 dollars. Paulas choice kits also cost around 120 + you can get some free products. + the Pc has way more studies behind than Hyrams new brand. I would say that these products would normally cost 15-20 dollars, and you pay plus 5-10 dollars for the marketing.
@harleenk.1958
@harleenk.1958 2 жыл бұрын
I wud say those 5-10 dollars go to the social impact the brand is gonna bring Dominik :)
@dominiksagan9622
@dominiksagan9622 2 жыл бұрын
@@harleenk.1958 Yea ofc. Keep dreaming
@jadaaurie7696
@jadaaurie7696 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominiksagan9622 exactly
@sunscreenhoarder6558
@sunscreenhoarder6558 2 жыл бұрын
@@harleenk.1958 no they don't. $0.50 per product goes to the thirst project but hyram has yet to disclose how much is going to the rainforest trust. he's claimed their "ambition" is to donate 10% of their profits overall but that's actually textbook corporate speech for "we're saying we will so we can mark up our products, but we almost certainly won't donate all that at all and don't want to get sued". The recyclable packaging is also nothing new, the ingredients are either gimmicky or in very low concentrations in what look to be pretty cheap formulations and there's just no way they cost more than a few dollars to produce overall. the inkey list was also founded with the intention of being the "fast fashion" of skincare and have boasted of their very short development times and low production costs in the past. most of the production costs seem to be on the marketing lmao.
@MiaNamboothiripad
@MiaNamboothiripad 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Shah there is a huge positivity around you. Meeting you once is one of my bucket lists.
@racheltuten30
@racheltuten30 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing! I don’t think I’ll pick up anything yet. I have a tried and true skincare routine that is working well for me right now. It’s always nice to have a dermatologist perspective on products though so as not to waste money on stuff that won’t work or that can be potentially irritating to the skin.
@bodnarova05
@bodnarova05 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not spending my money on anything from an influencer. No offence to Hyram. He seems sweet though, and we all gotta eat :)
@blobster91
@blobster91 2 жыл бұрын
Same. What they said ☝
@Leticia-yj2tq
@Leticia-yj2tq 2 жыл бұрын
Plus he is extremely misleading about his credentials. I don’t trust him at all
@versai2770
@versai2770 2 жыл бұрын
To expensive, small and I just rather not!!
@chaelisa2763
@chaelisa2763 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it I got hate for saying that!
@teletubbiestunetwister9570
@teletubbiestunetwister9570 2 жыл бұрын
He's a millionaire business man. Everything he does is contrived and to make money.
@imaanjaffri431
@imaanjaffri431 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't understand people that are buying from Hyram. I love the guy but he isn't a dermatologist. He isn't a professional. Why buy from another celebrity/influencer?
@kaylaannstation2740
@kaylaannstation2740 2 жыл бұрын
he is a certified specialist ,
@imaanjaffri431
@imaanjaffri431 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaylaannstation2740 Yeah but would you take professional advice from a dermatologist or from a famous influencer that doesn't choose to pursue an esthetician's license or dermatology degree?
@kaylaannstation2740
@kaylaannstation2740 2 жыл бұрын
@@imaanjaffri431 sorry i took advice from both sides . And Hyram really helped me fix my skincare routine . you do you
@321MjC
@321MjC 2 жыл бұрын
@-w -a LMFAOOO☠ But on a serious note, 100% agree with everything you said. This is all just so odd to me... it's like everything he ever supposedly "stood for" he has eventually, in some way or another, COMPLETELY contradicted/been a total hypocrite about. I've never liked those kind of people in real life why in the worlddd would I like them && support them online ???!!!🥴 ALSO, this may be a little far fetched but in my opinion he is/is becoming the literal skin care version of James Charles. Only time will tell🤷‍♀️
@bellab1142
@bellab1142 2 жыл бұрын
@@imaanjaffri431 he doesn’t need a piece of paper to be a self taught specialist...
@deecal4104
@deecal4104 2 жыл бұрын
Best review on letting us know on how to actually use the products! 👏🏼 Glad I watched. Regretful I purchased the complete set before watching as I definitely don’t need the oily skin products 😕
@filzavaid5458
@filzavaid5458 2 жыл бұрын
It makes me so happy to know y’all are friends
@Euphoria0717
@Euphoria0717 2 жыл бұрын
with all the respect...why produce more as if there's not enough already??? all these calabs with "influencers" are made just to get more cash and that's true..it's not selfless in any way....and to invent something special you have to be a professional in the field...not just an influencer...
@meganz020
@meganz020 2 жыл бұрын
Because he’s setting a new standard for brands to adhere to. Competition in the marketplace is a good thing - his innovative ingredients will push new brands to take their products to a bigger and better level
@leahcarnevale7340
@leahcarnevale7340 2 жыл бұрын
@@meganz020 Is this a joke?
@mahnikt
@mahnikt 2 жыл бұрын
@@leahcarnevale7340 She's obviously a big fan of his. She's been defending him under all comments. Just ignore her.
@gracebubier3021
@gracebubier3021 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why he turned to the inky list for help a.k.a.(the professionals)….he’s brand is focused on suitable packaging, making sure the ingredients are properly farmed(gives more job opportunities for people) , and the impact when you buy these products (depends on what products you buy) you are giving a person in need free drinking water for a whole year , and with every product purchased you are helping protect CO2 rich tropical forests from deforestation. So I don’t really know what your talking about every product you buy you are helping the earth. I like what Hyrams trying to do here (it’s more for the earth). That’s my opinion.
@elopix234
@elopix234 2 жыл бұрын
You could ask that yourself for any new innovation on the market. Aren’t there enough cars on the streets? Why would Elon Musk make new ones? Well guess what Audi, BMW and Mercedes are shitting in their pants and were FORCED to change due to the competition. Now Audi won’t produce combusted after 2026. And you know how a market shifts? If 100 people buy 100 face creams from let’s say careve (which is a subsidiary from L‘Oreal which is owned by 23% by Nestlé -> both are stock corporation). Do you think they have anything besides profit maximization in mind? Would they spend more for ethical sourcing, fair trade and fair wages in other countries? But anyway - now, under the premise that their creams are empty, 50 people buy next time Hyrams or any other *more sustainable* brand. Cerave has less sellings, so they won’t produce as much product anymore. The market shifts toward the demand. If cerave acknowledges that this happened due to environmental reasons they maybe will change their production - either have less profit then to let the pricing as it is now - or will raise prices. Everyone wants to do sth about climate change as long as it’s not affecting oneself right? No higher prices for fuel (car or heating), no higher prices for electricity, no higher prices for more sustainable cosmetic. And then ones cognitive dissonance kicks in and everyone screams „greenwashing“. 🥱 If hyram actually donates a lot and does help for social and environmental change I‘d rather give him my money than the billionaires from L’Oréal or Nestle etc 😌 But I still buy my products made in Germany/Europe from regional manufacturers where I know how my money is used.
@annscott1965
@annscott1965 2 жыл бұрын
Love you guys! I have changed my skincare routine based on your advice. I started a retinol routine. I am 56 years old and am hoping to see some difference in a few months. Thanks for the honest opinions you give in your reviews. Keep up the wonderful videos!
@Mellyouttaphase
@Mellyouttaphase 7 ай бұрын
So did you see a difference yet? I am 38 and just starting and feel like I am way too late to the party!
@noyaclyst2437
@noyaclyst2437 6 ай бұрын
How is it going?
@brookeconrad1055
@brookeconrad1055 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in depth review, I’m even more excited to try these products now!
@hellostina
@hellostina 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not always super psyched over Hyram, but I do like a couple of his products. I really appreciate the way you’ve reviewed them!
@maggyxchuu
@maggyxchuu 2 жыл бұрын
YES WAS HOPING YOU’D DO THIS VIDEO. 🤲🏼
@deyaniragutierrez8970
@deyaniragutierrez8970 2 жыл бұрын
I read over the ingredients list of Hyram's products... They are not terrifying but they are also not superior quality. These are average products at a mid priced point. I love Dr. Maxfield and Dr. Shah, but when you're friends with someone, it's really tough to provide feedback to them or about them. I'm not a dermatologist, and I don't claim to know all they know, but I personally am not a fan of these products, I don't think they will do much for your skin. To be quite frank... They are comparable to whatever you can find at Target or Walmart. You can verify what I'm saying by researching the ingredients in these products.
@BethaneyLilly
@BethaneyLilly 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! You cant give an unbiased review/feedback when you have a relationship with the person/brand (BIASED) It’s similarly for free products/PR/ or anything else where someone given you something …it establishes a relationship unbalanced from the start, there’s tons of psychology behind the whole mess …there’s a reason why PR exists and brands send out pricy gifts! They know what they’re doing. Even the most genuine person can’t be completely unbiased or neutral when they don’t have their own money on the line or have some other personal interest.
@davidwebley6186
@davidwebley6186 2 жыл бұрын
@@BethaneyLilly Not forgetting in the YT skincare sphere Hyram has a lot of followers so having his name or products feature on your channel will also drive traffic to your own channel. In say that I do think that Dr Shah is being genuine with his review, after all his professional credibility is at stake here.
@pittsburghgirl9898
@pittsburghgirl9898 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Shah for your honest review! I love Hyram's mission and I'm excited to try his skin care line.
@marleytfm
@marleytfm 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god the only option I TRULY want of hyrams new line!! Thank you!!!!! Miss you Dr. Max
@lindsayp8131
@lindsayp8131 2 жыл бұрын
Would love a video on skincare for pregnancy and breastfeeding! I feel like we are often excluded from product lines (especially when it comes to safe exfoliants & treatment serums).
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 2 жыл бұрын
Does Dr Dray have anything?
@mimimoon6082
@mimimoon6082 2 жыл бұрын
Often? It's more like always. Dr. Alexis Stephens has an excellent video on pregnancy; and Dr. Vanita Rattan has one as well. Both moms with small children who know what to use and stay away from. You should check them out.
@vst8968
@vst8968 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Dray does have a video about pregnancy safe skincare. Spoiler…it ain’t a lot. I’m pregnant and the struggle is REAL. I miss retinol and bakuchiol is not cutting it 😭
@rizkiidesti1956
@rizkiidesti1956 2 жыл бұрын
Dr dray & dr shereene idriss addressed these issues on their serums
@jennifermcdaniel3910
@jennifermcdaniel3910 Жыл бұрын
Lindsay-Maybe it's not left out, it's because there aren't safe treatments, serums, retonids etc. for pregnant women?! This is because most of the greedy world of skincare still has enough values left to not want to intentionally harm pregnant women & their fetuses!!! 🙃 How do scientists do their R&D without testing?! Especially, on pregnant women?! 🤰
@Sunlit_Reading
@Sunlit_Reading 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say that I have found so much joy in learning more about skincare. I'm very new and have loved Doctorly, Hyram, James Welsh, Cassandra Bankson, and Anthony Youn MD. It feels like there's a space for everyone, and they all offer their own wonderful content. I discovered Hyram through Dr. Mike, and that's how I discovered all the other skincare KZfaqrs. If dermatologists say he offers something worthwhile to the skincare community, why say he has no value? Some of our most beloved brands like CeraVe were not founded by dermatologists, but with them. If Hyram partners with Inkey List dermatologists and chemists to create a skincare line, and no dermatologist is saying any of the products are bad or harmful, our beautiful community doesn't need to attack its right to exist :) Anyhow love to you all
@thamaira2979
@thamaira2979 2 жыл бұрын
For those who’s wondering what “Maracujá” means: I’m brazilian and “Maracujá” is actually a portuguese word that means “Passion fruit”. I looked for the ingredient list of the product and it says that contains maracujá seed oil that significantly reduce Trans Epidermal Water Loss (TEWL) on inflamed or breakout skin to support reinforcing the skin barrier :)
@monermccarthy7198
@monermccarthy7198 2 жыл бұрын
You 2 guys are adorable, you were very kind to Hyram and I admire that.
@measbeauty
@measbeauty 2 жыл бұрын
Don't lie Dr Maxfield's in the bathroom reapplying his tretinoin for the third time today! Edit: I didn't come up with the first part of this comment, I thought the original one was funny , so I switched it up to something more fitting of the last video I seen from Doctorly. Had this been twitter I would have retweeted, but this is YT and all we can do it comment! Have a great day!
@Doctorly
@Doctorly 2 жыл бұрын
haha he's a savage
@Name-se3xz
@Name-se3xz 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, you really had to copy someones comment and format to replace it with tretinoin. Very original and creative.
@measbeauty
@measbeauty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Name-se3xz well they said he was putting on moisturizer and I said he was putting on tretinoin for the third time I wasn't really copying bud sorry that it offended you!
@Name-se3xz
@Name-se3xz 2 жыл бұрын
@@measbeauty well no i’m not offended lol it’s nothing i’m just saying you commented on mine then post Me: You can’t fool us. Dr. maxfield is in the hotel washroom, most likely applying _________ You: Don’t lie Dr. maxfield is in the bathroom reapplying _______ And i totally agree we the man knows what ingredients he loves and uses them all to no end lol
@measbeauty
@measbeauty 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely commented on your post first wasn't trying to hide the fact that I used the in the bathroom comment def just thought it was funny because I just watched their retinol video where he said he applied tret 3 times a day, and I couldn't resist to pick on him.
@christinereilly3699
@christinereilly3699 2 жыл бұрын
I dont fall for this or anything like this of promoting all this fluff. The moment he said " oh hyram and i are friends" the creditability is gone. I go for no nonsense basic products. I'll keep my cereve cream/lotion; gentle cleansers and such without breaking the bank. My 20 year old dumb self would run out and get this; but this wiser and older say nope nope nope.
@lyndseyogorman5367
@lyndseyogorman5367 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! I love Hyram but if you're friends with someone you are biased.
@knaxor
@knaxor 2 жыл бұрын
Even the people who aren’t friends with him say they’re good products. Stop being so jaded and trust someone for once lmao
@user-eg4zb8sp1w
@user-eg4zb8sp1w 2 жыл бұрын
@@knaxor this is why hyram's fanbase scares me. It feels more like a cult because God forbid you point out a criticism because they will chew you out
@IDontCare39
@IDontCare39 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-eg4zb8sp1w I stopped following him because of this reason. The comments I found on his videos were disgusting. People would call names and be so rude to people who criticized Hyram. Nowadays, I mostly follow the dermatologists here.
@beatm6948
@beatm6948 2 жыл бұрын
@@knaxor Yeah. Overpriced, but decent.
@alli1docious
@alli1docious 2 жыл бұрын
Always love your breakdown of ingredients!
@connie6410
@connie6410 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you about being a reader who doesn't know who to say things in real life, Dr. Shah! Thanks for doing this review and also being so honest about your friendship with Hyram.The review seemed very fair and unbiased to me!
@lalareal5327
@lalareal5327 2 жыл бұрын
I would literallyyyy watch every video you upload !!
@toritwopointoh
@toritwopointoh 2 жыл бұрын
im sorry but the name "selfless by hyram" is the dumbest, most ironic thing i have ever heard
@xyu610
@xyu610 2 жыл бұрын
why
@elizaheathen
@elizaheathen 2 жыл бұрын
@@xyu610 the word "selfless" also means "unselfish" and hyram put his own name in the product...some might say that isn't "selfless"
@teletubbiestunetwister9570
@teletubbiestunetwister9570 2 жыл бұрын
Right? My jaw dropped when I heard about the name. Might as well have called it, "I'm selfless, B*&ch!" .... Would have gotten away with it too from the looks of it. So many stans.
@arctic2921
@arctic2921 2 жыл бұрын
@@teletubbiestunetwister9570 legit. it's sad that ppl seemingly can't think for themselves.. I used to like hyram well enough tbh but I'm seeing through everything now
@dominiksagan9622
@dominiksagan9622 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizaheathen and advertising it with Hyrams face 😅. They should have promoted it with nature and how it “helps”, but to they promoted it with Hyram.
@amnoirgg8563
@amnoirgg8563 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great perspective on the whole thing. Very informative.
@TheCarmolly
@TheCarmolly 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you opened up a little more during this video, you said a lot of really correct and also sweet things🙏🏻❤️
@rayradiance666
@rayradiance666 2 жыл бұрын
Basically a praise Hyram video
@almag0410
@almag0410 2 жыл бұрын
“I don’t know how to say things in real life” lol! Relatable.
@anonymousblah4486
@anonymousblah4486 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to this review. I do wish you also about how the products feel on your skin, do they peel, do they layer well, etc. good review none the less, thank you.
@corygentry4871
@corygentry4871 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining exactly which product is best for each skin type or goal so we know where to start!
@socialanxiety1541
@socialanxiety1541 2 жыл бұрын
I respect Dr. Shahs opinion and his analysis of the products themselves but I really wish he or any other major skin care influencer would acknowledge the controversy surrounding hyrams brand. It has nothing to do with the products themselves but everything to do with the brands ethics, marketing and sales. To anyone considering buying selfless by hyram: please do your own research into the issues surrounding the brand before you make the choice to go out and buy. Then if you do still purchase the products you'll at least be making an informed decision.
@xyber81
@xyber81 2 жыл бұрын
As someone that has tried all sorts for my acne prone face and neck. Don’t mess about. Get a tretinoin prescription and a bland, but decent moisturizer. Use a Vit c serum, a light moisturizer and spf during the day. And don’t believe the scare tactics on silicone based products. The most matte and beneficial product I’ve used for day time use is a silicone based spf. Never take advice from someone trying to sell you something. Research and word of mouth is king. So many influencers that are chatting up products, don’t actually have a clue how to use them. How many have you seen rubbing neat cerave cleanser on their face, then moaning they broke out. 😂
@holicseasky
@holicseasky 2 жыл бұрын
heyyyyy can I ask what silicone spf you use?
@michelletidler6773
@michelletidler6773 2 жыл бұрын
I couldnt agree more! Just another you tuber trying to make $.
@modernenergy682
@modernenergy682 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have acne prone skin and it is still basically what I use too.
@xyber81
@xyber81 2 жыл бұрын
@@holicseasky supergoop unseen sunscreen
@taiyabazaheer9492
@taiyabazaheer9492 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Exactly the same things worked for my acne and scars. Hyram: Hi my name is Hy- Me: Hold my tretenoin.
@carolbray1925
@carolbray1925 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I just found this channel. So excited to binge watch you guys.
@modernenergy682
@modernenergy682 2 жыл бұрын
Hyram does not disclose that he is getting paid for products he recommends/reviews. No one can test that many products as Hyram.
@fabiana7047
@fabiana7047 2 жыл бұрын
He does?
@modernenergy682
@modernenergy682 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabiana7047 he doesn't. Only if it is a sponsored video. But he reviews products a lot like best this and best that. All of that is paid too but he doesn't disclose
@natashafraser8685
@natashafraser8685 2 жыл бұрын
@@modernenergy682 I thought the same thing, but if you look in the descriptions of his videos he has affiliated links that he gets a profit from. He mentions it in almost every intro, but I always skipped those so I didn’t know lol
@modernenergy682
@modernenergy682 2 жыл бұрын
@@natashafraser8685 those are separate. Brands pay him to review products. There are videos on KZfaq about it. Like millions of dollars a month
@karatalksaboutstuff7333
@karatalksaboutstuff7333 2 жыл бұрын
@@modernenergy682 I've seen a few of those videos. The ones I've seen conflate being a "partner" (which just means you have affiliate links) with being sponsored.
@fateiscourage
@fateiscourage 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Maxfield’s cameos are sending me 😂
@JAY-oe5jj
@JAY-oe5jj 2 жыл бұрын
No offense to H but I’m not buying any of his product , one it’s too pricy and just not going to spend $$ on a influencer who named it selfless.
@habituallinestepper8839
@habituallinestepper8839 2 жыл бұрын
Sick of the virtue signaling myself. And I’m sick of companies lecturing me about things unasked for
@transfertrish5247
@transfertrish5247 2 жыл бұрын
Great review!! Very detailed. I feel I have good grasp on the products. Thanks Doc
@gisselmartinez5143
@gisselmartinez5143 2 жыл бұрын
Omg, I've been waiting for this video!
@gisselmartinez5143
@gisselmartinez5143 2 жыл бұрын
@@royahoy8655 Because why not. =)
@kassiek6896
@kassiek6896 2 жыл бұрын
“I read a lot but don’t talk to a lot of people. So I don’t know how to say things in real life.” Especially in the medical field haha!
@WanBuBu
@WanBuBu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feed back ! ❤️
@anum3702
@anum3702 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Doc 🎂🥳🥳 ....have a nice day
@delanosmall6912
@delanosmall6912 2 жыл бұрын
Please, tell us the truth Dr Shah! We trust you like the good physician you are. You can’t disappoint me now
@NG-yf8ls
@NG-yf8ls 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Hyram just copies Dr Dray’s videos. Or at least he did. I would watch one of her videos and...what do you know...he would come out with a video extremely similar a few days or a week later. Haven’t watched him in a while because I’d rather follow an actual board certified dermatologist who has the knowledge and background to speak about skin care...
@christinereilly3699
@christinereilly3699 2 жыл бұрын
You noticed that too? Lol. He (hyrum) looks like a nice guy and i couldn't watch his videos all the way thru.
@ajae...
@ajae... 2 жыл бұрын
In the beginning he definitely did and was open about it. He said that Dr. Dray and Beautipedia were his main sources of information.
@charkitte
@charkitte 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dray has given out some seriously erroneous advice at times. 'Board-certified' does NOT impress me at all.
@NG-yf8ls
@NG-yf8ls 2 жыл бұрын
@@charkitte specifics? That’s a very broad statement to make without referencing any specifics
@dayze2764
@dayze2764 2 жыл бұрын
I did use to think this as well.
@Jdoll520
@Jdoll520 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very helpful review and answered my questions as to what product is best for my skin type. Thank you!!!
@SparklinYoga
@SparklinYoga 2 жыл бұрын
It is true that launching a skincare line is not sustainable BUT if it has success it will send a huge message to all skincare brands who don’t give a f. about environment. I am gonna support it for this reason, hoping to see more responsibility from other brands
@vanessac1721
@vanessac1721 2 жыл бұрын
"Selfless" is the most humblebrag flex I've seen in a long time. For that reason, pass.
@kaitlinoconnell517
@kaitlinoconnell517 2 жыл бұрын
agreed. the name = huge turnoff
@CeeCee630
@CeeCee630 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@vanessac1721
@vanessac1721 2 жыл бұрын
@Ballerina Bailey I don't think they are actually friends so much as youtube influencers who know each and say nice things about each other because it might lead to more views in the future whether through a collaboration video or one of them recommending the other on their channel.
@vanessac1721
@vanessac1721 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlinoconnell517 Did you see he changed the name of his KZfaq channel to the same thing. Yuck.
@vanessac1721
@vanessac1721 2 жыл бұрын
@Ballerina Bailey of course. They all talk each other up. It's a big circle jerk.
@poppykins2714
@poppykins2714 2 жыл бұрын
What are the products actually like though? How do they feel on your skin? What is the consistency? How do they absorb? Do they layer well? What are the negatives, if any? Do they interact well with products from other brands? Where would you put them in your own skincare routine? How do they compare to other similarly priced products? I would have liked to know what your personal experience was, not a general discussion of the ingredients.
@sunsundks3891
@sunsundks3891 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing his friend's products with other products eould be a strange thing to do tho haha
@melly4746
@melly4746 2 жыл бұрын
He’s literally going into lather, absorption, skin type, strength, allergens... I think he did great in a somewhat awkward situation.
@deyaniragutierrez8970
@deyaniragutierrez8970 2 жыл бұрын
I am not planning on purchasing these products. They are pretty mediocre if you research the ingredients and search for them on the skin care decoder apps. I'm very surprised that Dr. Shah made this video. I think he should have just not. I would have appreciated him saying that he is friends with Hyram and therefore would prefer to not review his products.
@teletubbiestunetwister9570
@teletubbiestunetwister9570 2 жыл бұрын
James Welsh did a 30-minute video on his experience. I couldn't watch the whole thing. I simply don't care and am disappointed in the hurrah for all of this.
@ellielyndon1645
@ellielyndon1645 2 жыл бұрын
Thissss🔥🔥🔥
@sweetyetunrefined9335
@sweetyetunrefined9335 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the retinol *right* before this video came out. Glad I made the right choice!
@daniellewhite168
@daniellewhite168 2 жыл бұрын
I am so here for this!
@sabina6280
@sabina6280 2 жыл бұрын
I just think it's ridiculous to call the brand selfless when you know he is gonna earn big bucks from it
@sandcake
@sandcake 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he will get more than 10% from the profit. Inkey List does everything (Creation, Production, Homepage, Packaging, Warehouse, Customer Service, Shipping) with Hyram's Name on it. They have to pay all workers and have all the risk. (Of course I am not saying that 10% isn't going to be a lot of money).
@noahderyck7185
@noahderyck7185 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandcake why do you think people will buy it? Because of hyram so its normal
@chroniclesofangie2762
@chroniclesofangie2762 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandcake omg. So what? Is He not supposed to make money from It?? Did ANYONE disclose who is producing and manufacturing the products? How do we know that Hyram didn't put in money to start the product Like?
@SebastianoZanda
@SebastianoZanda 2 жыл бұрын
How can a 50ml package be sustainable? These products are expensive and they bring nothing new to the market. I don't get the hype for them
@ryanmartin3012
@ryanmartin3012 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏
@harleenk.1958
@harleenk.1958 2 жыл бұрын
if ur concerned with how it’s sustainable, go read on the website lol. it does actually bring something new to the market, cuz I’ve never heard a skincare product make social change, nor have I ever heard a skincare brand to be accessible to all skin types, nor have I ever heard a skincare brand also being all safe for sensitive skin while still having good ingredients. It’s all about the way u look at it. 🙃
@sarahmunson1778
@sarahmunson1778 2 жыл бұрын
@@harleenk.1958 yeah, cause none of those claims are accurate about the brand lmao
@teletubbiestunetwister9570
@teletubbiestunetwister9570 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahmunson1778 Exactly... And there are likely brands who do good for the earth without having a mouthpiece like Hyram partnering with them.
@roxey1217
@roxey1217 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the real questions we should be asking !
@sonia7778
@sonia7778 2 жыл бұрын
So excited to try the Rainbow Algae Retinol Serum also purchased the cleaner.
@hajrawatali4922
@hajrawatali4922 2 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you so much for doing a video after I commented, love you guys ♥️
@reshmasawant1016
@reshmasawant1016 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about do and don'ts of mixing actives?also I'm so grateful to you guys for educating all of us in such simple way,keep up the good work!
@stephaniem5188
@stephaniem5188 2 жыл бұрын
I’m also interested in that
@danthanh98
@danthanh98 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephaniem5188 do NOT combine retinol with AHA/vitamin C/Benzoyl peroxide/acid lactic do combine retinol/ninacinamide/vitamin C with HA cre: drdoquoctuan on Tiktok
@yasssgawwwd5643
@yasssgawwwd5643 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Dray is the only Dermatologist I trust. She has Zero bias.
@andersj91
@andersj91 2 жыл бұрын
You should think about what you're saying here. Everyone has biases - I appreciate that these guys openly state theirs and still try to be accurate and honest. You just frankly don't know what Dr. Dray's biases are if you say she has none. **This comment brought to you by a guy who is somewhat biased against Dr. Dray due to her complete and utter inability to be concise (she VERY obviously does not do as much pre shoot prep work as these guys and ends up wandering/monologuing/repeating herself a lot), as well as frankly not being the biggest fan of her voice.
@rohanrash953
@rohanrash953 2 жыл бұрын
@@andersj91 for me u have some real shitty reasons to not like someone...& All of that sounds like ur personal problem. May be if u keep that urself u can go places
@bebbykhan7919
@bebbykhan7919 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I thought even Dr Dray was being hesitant to criticise the products too much but it's incredibly honest in comparison to all of the other reviews I've seen.
@altheanicolequerubin3764
@altheanicolequerubin3764 2 жыл бұрын
Check Dr. Shereen Idriss too. She's hilarious and brutally honest.
@TC-ku4vv
@TC-ku4vv Жыл бұрын
@@andersj91 I agree. I find her hard to listen to as well. She just needs a good editor. I really love Beauty Within's format and graphics. Although I know they aren't qualified so I take it with a grain of salt. The info is just easier to absorb than lecture-style.
@donnabannister8925
@donnabannister8925 2 жыл бұрын
Love your humility and philosophy 😍
@cash4859
@cash4859 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to buy any influencer skincare because there are products from Walmart that fulfill all my needs and are dermatologist approved so why waste the money???
@kaylaannstation2740
@kaylaannstation2740 2 жыл бұрын
always remember that tested by dermatologist and dermatologist approved is different
@CyclingUrchin
@CyclingUrchin 2 жыл бұрын
I want more people to talk about how disgusting it is he's using stock images of third world countries to promote his brand. It's such a white savoir brand. "buy this and you'll help save the world and these poor black people!" when the amount donated is next to nothing (just for appearances and tax deductions) and the products aren't even available im Africa (the people who's faces he's exploiting). It's obvious he's wanted to make a skincare line for a long time but between the ingredients, price, marketing, and amount it's such a cash grab
@ceciliamorenooliva4507
@ceciliamorenooliva4507 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... They have no clean water but a Sephora nearby ...sure... 😹
@dominiksagan9622
@dominiksagan9622 2 жыл бұрын
Also the thirstprojectcompany seems a little unbelievable for me. It says “Give two people safe, clean drinking water for life as they start their family and build their lives together in their community.” Just for 50$. I am paying more for water in 1 year. Can I have this opportunity, too? I am little bit concerned with these companies, cus what they offer ( for the donation) seems unreachable. And I don’t want to be mean, or get advantage on people Who are in a worse situation that me.
@randomina465
@randomina465 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceciliamorenooliva4507 as a person who lives in third world yes we have Sephora,Vichy ,and the ordinary but no clean water because those brands want to sell their products they don't care if the place is clean or not clean water however is a gouvernement responsibility and the gouvernement isn't doing it's job simple as that
@kenzielacosta8244
@kenzielacosta8244 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see someone actually say something nice and stay genuine. I love Hyram. I love your channel as well. Keep up the good work and spread the love.
@TaoMoksha
@TaoMoksha 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been watching Hyram for awhile now and in relation to everything Ive heard him say in his videos, this line make absolute sense. Im interested in the cleanser and retinol. :) Thanks for the informative video!
@mishaslilbae828
@mishaslilbae828 2 жыл бұрын
Hyram has completely change my skincare routine and knowledge. All these people painting him as greedy and trying to cancel him bewilders me. If you can't afford the product, don't buy it, he didn't force you. Just watch the free videos of advice and recommendations and purchase the cheaper ones he's recommended. I won't be purchasing his products, but I won't deny how much he has helped me
@mildredclark7257
@mildredclark7257 2 жыл бұрын
Fax
@mishaslilbae828
@mishaslilbae828 Жыл бұрын
@lunarpierro you know what's greedy? Brad Pitt's $385 serum.
@bethleannmartinez5474
@bethleannmartinez5474 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@natasha4046
@natasha4046 Жыл бұрын
@@mishaslilbae828you mean Brad mondo? 💀
@mishaslilbae828
@mishaslilbae828 Жыл бұрын
@@natasha4046 no I mean Brad Pitt💀 look it up it's embarrassing
@pappysprite
@pappysprite 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm shocked by this level of promotion. Here is the deal folks: There is an average whopping 78% markup on skincare products. This line $ is excessive! You need a decent face wash, toner, and sunscreen and there are plenty of lines out there with decent sized bottles of at least 4 oz or more, that are cruelty free, and safe ingredients. The price-point is no more than 10 bucks each. Don't throw your hard earned cash out the window by paying too much for skin care.
@imaanjaffri431
@imaanjaffri431 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, you can buy the exact same things from the Inkey List and for much cheaper! Hyram's products are a bit expensive for the size and amount of product they hold imo.
@harmonee07
@harmonee07 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@lavanniarajalingam50
@lavanniarajalingam50 2 жыл бұрын
Sticking to my tretinoin, timeless vit c , niacinamide frm the ordinary and cerave pm
@pappysprite
@pappysprite 2 жыл бұрын
@@lavanniarajalingam50 I couldn't agree more! Mine regimen is almost identical: Retina-A like you, The Ordinary's niacinamide - about 6 bucks, the Ordinary's Glycolic Acid Toner - full bottle about 8 bucks, I trade out face washes but generally like the South Korean ones and they are all under 10 bucks, full bottles. No reason to pay for any of these things for more than $10 or less with at least 4 oz or more. Finally Neutrogena's SPF for baby - under $10 bucks.
@pappysprite
@pappysprite 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravenswood118 Your statement is wrong, especially for oily and acne prone skin. There is no facial cleanser in the world that can get down into the pores like a toner does. Often times these oils and grime show that proof on a white cotton pad.
@lauromero129
@lauromero129 2 жыл бұрын
"Maracuja" (maracuyá) is passion fruit :D
@sirennem.6890
@sirennem.6890 2 жыл бұрын
yes, its Maracuya, not Maracuja
@MarjaCamargo
@MarjaCamargo 2 жыл бұрын
It depends, in Portuguese, we pronounce something like: “ma.ra.ku.jah”. 😌
@kavyaganguri5702
@kavyaganguri5702 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a dermatologist review of this
@rm6700
@rm6700 2 жыл бұрын
Well we have to wait more for an unbiased one
@doodoo7207
@doodoo7207 2 жыл бұрын
Can wait dr dray review just like naturium got 😂
@sanskritibarman4928
@sanskritibarman4928 2 жыл бұрын
@@doodoo7207 yeah I swear I'll only lisn to her when it comes celebrity/infuencer skincare lines. Even Cassandra was supporting naturium which claims to be fragrance free and yet has essential oils or extracts from citrus fruits that can be potentially irritating. Although I love Cass cuz she is not so pressed about fragrance in skincare as it doesn't really harm the majority (again I have nthg against fragrance but Dr. Dray is looking out for the worst case scenarios although fragrance to irritation affects a small proportion of the population).
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