there’s a quote by Moffat talking about it’s fun to see the early days of series 8 where the 12th doctor is trying to pretend he doesn’t fancy Clara ‘Oh you’re ugly! Disgusting! stop looking so good!’

how is she one of the most beautiful women? she is short, average face...

PREACH.

I love her and think she’s beautiful!

@@franz3810 she is amazing, stunning, smart, funny and gorgeous

Can't wait to go back to a team of writers that actually understands nuance like this.

filter?

@@shashanksam a language filter, where David Tennant and Matt Smith's doctors would occasionally dumb things down or tell people they'd be okay when they wouldn't, capaldi was brutal and honest, which was a great characteristic and made sense for him, he doesn't have anything filtering the bad things he says

Never actually thought of that.. damn!

Thing is, Capaldi was blatantly lying about Clara's age and appearance. The truth field had nothing to do with it, that was simply Capaldi being an asshole just because he could.

Heh

When I first heard that, I thought she called him her “hubby” 😂😂😂

Missy would approve

Because of the significance it had for me as a kid, Ten & Rose is my OTP, but otherwise I absolutely agree ❤️

I loved Capaldi as The Doctor. The combination of his awkwardness at behaving like a human, and Clara having absolutely no filter just killed me. Oh…and the defence broom 🤣🤣🤣

I wouldn't say she's the Best companion, I still love Ace. And Lucy from the 8th Doctor's Audio Adventures.

The Nostalgia Companion

…a pinch of Malcolm Tucker 🤏🏼

Steven Moffat :) that was his. he has more spectacular quotes about this, explaining to DWM that it's like 'he was obsessed with two phone calls in Dark Water/Death in Heaven' where Clara and Danny each have this struggle to communicate and say 'i love you' but in the middle, between the two, 'the cracked old Caledonian' 'he says 'i love you' perfectly'. ANYWAY THIS IS BRINGING BACK MEMORIES

love that line

Truly unconditional.

I know I'm probably gonna get mocked for saying this, but it means a lot to me so I'm gonna say it anyway. That quote basically sums up the whole building blocks of Christianity, and hearing that in the middle of a mini crisis in my faith was exactly what I needed. I come back to this episode every so often just because of how powerful that line is, especially with the added meaning it has for me :)

@@J75Pootle beautiful :)

basically with the 11th doctor they were in the courting stage and with the 12th doctor they're married 🤣

@@skygamingoneway nah. It's a father and daughter relationship.

100 % agree with everything you said. love this edit and love 12 & Clara

@@TC-sl8ol A daughter wouldn't slap her father. :)

@@TC-sl8ol the writers even confirmed there was something more there lmao it just would have been s bit much to say directly onscreen

Loyalty 100

Possibly! It's just a little different because of the memory wipe of Clara, but you never know, it might have! :)

Oooo I've never heard that, that's heartbreaking lmao, when did 11 go back to?

​​@@beetlegraves8966 The entirety of Series 7A is in reverse because specific things are mentioned In A Town Called Mercy they mention Rory leaving his Charger in King Henry the VIII home then an episode later, they show them in King Henry the VIII's bedroom

@@bleh_itsfine3556 it couldn't cos when he saw her in twice upon a time he says his memories of her are back and then he regenerates so the only time the doctor could have gone back to see a younger version of her is when he is the 13th doctor

@@gamercore7833 which would hav been so adorable omg cus we know clara is bi (or at least likes girls as well cus the jane austen kissin stuff hehe) so im just imagining 13 going back to meet clara soon after she regenerates and meets yaz/ryan/graham and shes all sad and mournful for losing clara (but doesnt tell her ofc) AND regenerating but clara figures out its her doctor immediately and is so happy and in luv and smiley cus shes a WOMAN now and it makes 13 all awkward and blushy cus omg she still likes her (unlike when she first regen'd to 12) ..... bruh we were robbed of this in the show or at least an extra clip :((((

"She was on matriarch" is that an actual expression lol it's pretty cool

Rose arguably did the same, it makes me so happy when the companions come through so well, they really give most of them a chance to shine ^^

The version of Clara that fits best with 11 is probably Victorian Clara. Their back and forth was absolutely great

She was insanely better then amy and rory combined

Amy and Rory definitely complimented Matt Smith’s Doctor better than him and Clara while Capaldi’s Doctor and Clara were perfect for each other.

​@@peedfarded The way I have felt is that the 11th Doctor was the Doctor that was the focus of Clara's affection, while the 12th was the one that shared it. Not to say that 11 didn't love Clara as well, but it was different. It definitely was more of a romantic love than with the Ponds, who I have always gotten the impression he always loved as family, never in a romantic way.

Eleven and Clara OBVIOUSLY like each other But Twelve and Clara love each other 💙

Because after Flatline Clara became more important than The Doctor.

Clara is my favorite companion of New Who. Might be wrong, but I have the impression that a lot of fans who hate her, share Missy's impression that companions should not be more than pets to the Doctor. When Clara became the only human that could go toe to toe with the Doctor, they started bickering about Clara taking the spot away from the Doctor.

I like Clara but I still think dona was the best companion

She doubted the Doctor. That's enough reason for me to not like her.

@KVAcedo27 The Doctor isn't the main character, at least not consistently throughout modern Doctor Who. Barring Tennant in series 3 and 4, the main character(s) are the companions- they have the capacity for growth, they are who the stories revolve around... the Doctor is the titular character, but they're more of a through-line supporting character to the companions. And it's always been this way- all the promotional material for series 1 focused on Rose, not 9. I think the real issue with Clara (who is one of my favorite companions) is that she stuck around just a bit too long. Until Yas, she had the longest tenure of a singular companion in the new series at 2.5 series (considering Amy and Rory were kind of a pair of companions). I honestly think that was the real issue- she stuck around too long with no one else to take the spotlight.

Exactly!

Same. There’s something rlly endearing about him

I feel like River was mostly 11's wife if that makes sense

@@Tri_monster They know that, what they're saying is even then, River didn't seem like much of a wife to 11 in comparison. Truthfully I did always see her as sort of forced

Except that 12 and River had 27 years together off screen which is when I feel they were truly husband and wife.

@@Tri_monster eh, he's poly almost by design, anyway. But yeah, I didn't buy River as the Doctor's wife until The Husbands of River Song. Clara fit the bill perfectly.

I think the struggle comes from most of River & the Doctor's relationship happened off-screen. Which I love because it leaves so much unsaid, but it can be difficult to follow.

Clara and the 12th were perfect together ❤️

yeh 11 was amy and rory, clara was for 12

It took me time to like Twelve and Clara cause I like her more with Eleven Theyre both my fav duos 😁😁

no clara was for 11 he said he wanted to do another year and they would have eventually fallen in love

To me personally, the worst episode for me is the forest one. The one where london suddenly becomes a forest. But yeah, kill the moon is a strong 2nd.

​@@yunantheobserver6841 Kill The Moon is a great episode. It's popular to hate it but nobody ever gives a good reason. The worst thing about Kill The Moon is Peter Capaldi. However, Peter Capaldi should never have been cast as the 13th Doctor anyway (yes, he's 13, not 12), so this is a problem with Season 8 as a whole, not Kill The Moon on its own. They should have swapped him with John Hurt, who was a better Doctor in 1 episode than Peter Capaldi was in 1 and a half seasons. John Hurt had enough range to be either the 9th/War Doctor or the 13th Doctor but Peter Capaldi could only manage the War Doctor and we're in a universe where Steven Moffat chose him for the wrong incarnation.

@@tomnorton4277 I don't think I've ever seen an opinion so monumentally incorrect yet so simply and factually stated I had to do a double take and check that it was still in the same universe I remember. So congratulations on that, I suppose.

@@illuminati955 Surprise, surprise, you gave absolutely no evidence for why my assertion was wrong. Kill The Moon presented a situation where there's no definitively right or wrong answer. That shows respect for the audiences intelligence, which is something you almost never see these days. Complaining about the moon dragon being too big for the egg, which is something a lot of people have said, is no different from complaining that a police box is bigger on the inside. As for the abortion allegory, it's forcing people to confront the fact that abortion is no different from murdering children. An unborn child is still a child and as soon as it starts kicking, it's undeniably alive. The only reason killing it isn't completely morally abhorrent in this case is because it's one alien being weighed against the entire human race. The problem with Kill The Moon is that Peter Capaldi's supposed to be the same man who planned to destroy Gallifrey at the end of the Time War. Despite that, he looked CONFUSED about why Clara was angry when he forced her into a situation where the wrong choice could, as far as Clara knew, result in her destroying Earth. Not only did Peter Capaldi seem to forget that the Doctor knows better than anybody how it feels to destroy your home planet, but he acted like he expected Clara to be totally fine with him abandoning her for the second time. On paper, the Doctor's betraying Clara because he thinks it will help her get stronger. This is supposed to be a cruel to be kind situation. Great concept and John Hurt could have made it work by being understanding and delivering "That was me respecting you" without the shaky, confused and insincere tone that Peter Capaldi used. Capaldi said that line as though he had no idea that he had betrayed Clara in the first place and couldn't wrap his mind around the very simple concept that abandoning your friends is a bad thing. He made the Doctor look like an idiot at best and a sociopath at worst.

too dark though 11 would have smiled and they would have hugged

Donna would literally die rose would be more likely still a bit far but WHO knows what will happen

we need 11 too

​@jamesdaniel9033 this aged well

@@jamesdaniel9033who nose😏

so about that.... @@jamesdaniel9033

oof, they're not a source of serotonin as such, they're just really compelling

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!😭🥺

Hah same, I want to find that level of energy again

Donna did too. It's a shame she and Ten didn't have more time. 😥

The only? Please tell me you’re kidding.

Look I never said I was smart-

@@beetlegraves8966 nah " *sips coffee* " dont got tha same ring 2 it as " *sips tea* " u did right 😁💯

But consider: The Doctor got her coffee and she decides to drink his tea instead because he's weeks late.

I actually have a book that goes into detail on what coffee Doctor got Clara. Spoiler alert: He got the strongest coffee in the universe on an intergalactic cafe, and accidentally got roped into a murder mystery.

Exactly! I adore it so much!

Yeah i love 12 and Clara because they already have a deep compassionate mutually loving relationship, not in a romantic or lustful way like 11 and her kept talking like in a very cringey sort of teenager way. But 12 and Clara are meant for each other in heart and spirit, they supplement each other (more popular phrase would be they complete each other), and honestly like many long married couple this can sometimes be to an unhealthy toxic degree, and for them it ultimately becomes that, where they do anything for each other even if it means compromising their morals. But what I love is that this platonic love, something few shows are ever willing to show between man and woman.

At what point in the video does this occur?

​@@Jimmy911ism I have no idea

@@Jimmy911ism Before the Flood, at around 11:20

When she yelled SHUUUUT UUUUUP 😂😂😂

I watched it a couple of years ago and haven't recovered either. Just wait for series ten...

She's also immortal until she goes back to face the Raven. Thanks to the echoes, Jenna Coleman could come back when she's 90 years old if she wanted to since we can assume that the echoes lived for varying lengths of time, with some dying young like Oswin and Victorian Clara and others living full lives. The real Clara won't age at all, similar to Ashildr and Jack Harkness (although Jack technically does age but EXTREMELY slowly). My biggest problem with Clara's echoes is how could the Doctor have not noticed them for 10 out of 13 lifetimes? At least John Hurt was Time Locked inside the Time War, which Clara's echoes couldn't access. None of the other Doctors have any excuse for being so blind.

@@tomnorton4277 I think the idea is she saves the doctor from the great intelligence, so her foiling their plans in any small way is enough and she doesn't even need to interact with the doctor

No angst in my house

I’m so glad this video doesn’t make us suffer through that

@@strigonshitposting793 they had some cute moments in that episode but I'm not strong enough to sit through it again

@@beetlegraves8966 It’s the only episode I could only watch the one time NEVER AGAIN

@@strigonshitposting793 Yeah watched it for the second time last week. Still hurts.

Excuse me, can you tell me what episode this is?

@@_Arnata_ it's from the start of The Caretaker, Series 8 Episode 6

@@chiffon788 Thanks a lot

To be fair, at this point in the show, he only has the one jacket.

They have a romance, but a romance of things unsaid. This was the intention of the writers and actors.

Going so far as to break the laws of space and time and shooting a fellow Time Lord 😂😂

It really is. Makes me tear up a bit. Her and 12s relationship is one of the best In doctor who. Between this and the I love you scene from mummy on the Orient express. My view of it is that she liked 11 maybe had a crush on him. But loved 12

@Mr7Reality that's what I meant I think she fancied 11 but fell in love with 12.

@Mr7Reality oh apologies. Thankyou

What episode is it?

​@@jm5887i would do the same if i was Clara tbh

and he got River to introduce him to the TARDIS interior

Deep covaaaaaa!

I think they cut it out because face thr raven largely is just angst

"I totally saved you from having to marry that giant sentient plant thing."

Srsly the reason why I'm so rooted for this ship is 12's giggly high school girl face everytime Clara talks to him