Aint no way you hate river

@@kirkii9245 Didn’t even think that was possible. Clara and River aren’t direct opposites or anything at all either so you shouldn’t need to like one and hate the other lol

@@kirkii9245 I really do with a passion

Just wondering why to you hate River? No hate obvs lol

@@jadeanderson5249 I find her whole character really irritating and to be fair I think it's more to do with Moffats writing. I like her in silence in the library and time of Angel's but anything after that her whole character is just smug cringey one liners. On top of that she has no chemistry with the doctor, instead of showing their relationship like rose or Clara (or hell even Amy), it was mostly done off screen and it just feels so stiff and awkward and I think that's my main problem, everything with her felt so forced. No hate to anyone who likes her, if you do that's great I'm glad you can enjoy it, I just want people to know that I do plan on making new videos like this but I won't include river in a major way

The companion being the same as the audience is the point.

Apparently that was the original plan but the BBC wanted a modern companion.

@@Fat_Panda_Gamer Who though

@@al3xa723 Huh?

@@Fat_Panda_Gamer You know

And then 12 and Clara go on to be absolutely co-dependent on each other to the point that the doctor would endure horrific torture and shoot someone for her and she would lie to keep her place by his side and strive to be his true equal. Genuinely a fantastic aspect for the companion to expose.

honestly, I felt that was for the best... the doctor suffered enough from Rose

if you think what 12 and Clara have is familial and not romantic,,,, babe you are clueless

@@maxskellington910 I don't know. I never got the vibe that it was familia or romantic. It always felt like something deeper. It was toxic in a way, their need for one another, but it was really strong and beyond normal love.

@@maxskellington910 it's not romantic otherwise clara wouldn't have fallen in love with Danny pink what it is a very close friendship almost like family.

@@maxskellington910 agreed, 11 and Clara are newly-weds and 12 and Clara are an old married couple

absolutely adorable...

I love Clara too, so so much. She is beautiful the most beautiful female character in the history of television.

Funny enough that 11 was actually all for it when Clara phoned him in for an "emergency boyfriend" and was sort of disappointed when he was told it would only be pretend.

I'll be honest, I never liked River,

@@AVerySillySausage I really only cared for River when she was paired up with Capaldi. I never felt the chemistry was there between her and Eleven.

@@AVerySillySausage - I would have liked River if she hadn't been so smug. It looked like at times, the Doctor was embarrassed by her.

That’s so clever, I never thought of it like that

Of course. Because lying to yourself is usually done because of emotional vulnerability, something the cybermen don't get.

fax i pick clara over amy n rose anyday

agreed

I agree, also loved Donna & The Doctor, both endings tore my heart out but mostly Clara hit hardest. Donna had her memory wiped but Clara died in agony, sure, they bring her back but she’ll eventually go back to her death, still in agony.

I mean who would else be stupid enough jump in to a time vortex to protect a space alien all over timelines without a care

Same but I would have loved to see how sassy 11 and Donna would be as a duo

Ikr. Eleventh's love for Clara totally bled into Twelfth, even if their relationship was not as flirtatious and much more complicated.

Also tbf the first person which 12th sees is clara

Not necessarily jealous. He's testing Danny. He feels a sense of parental protectiveness towards Clara. He also has a heavy distrust of soldiers and former soldiers as a reflection of self-loathing shame from his actions during the Time War.

@@fastertrackcreative That´s what I think happened between The Doctor and Clara, specially 12th. He wanted to protect her at all cost.

@@fastertrackcreative not a chance, as BOTH actors involved and the show runner have said their relationship was a romantic one

He kissed Rory because he was happy once, he's very tactile in general.

@@jujublue4426 Once. All their episodes together, once. It was also something that was completely unscripted that Matt Smith just did on the spur of the moment

11's just a touchy person. He's like that with the Ponds and River as well. (I think that's just who Matt Smith is and they brought it into the character.)

I agree. I've been binging and he definitely likes to hug and kiss but you can feel the difference with Clara. Their relationship just feels so softly romantic. All the other companions pushed so hard.

I guess it's from Matt Smith. I guess he looks like a person like so energetic, sweet, happy pills you know.

Totally agree and matt Smith actually regrets leaving early and not having full season with her.

so incredibly sad :'( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e65jm8V21MXLYXk.html

Really? It feels like she was with him for so much longer. Well at least I know she leaves a lasting impression

she had a good 11 episodes with him tho 🥺

To be fair she got time, day, and name of the doctor. Banger episodes that are really important.

Same 💙💙 best duo ever

what about the doctor and rose

​@@WorshipHunglabungla55They were quite good, just a different dynamic (and i personally prefer their dynamic to Rose and the Doctor's)

@@WorshipHunglabungla55He's thousands of years old, he can move on eventually

It never happens 😒 Just in films or series

10 voiced this same complaint in the episode with madame pompadour. Only took another 300yrs to find someone.

Ya know, Moffat wrote both those earlier episodes, so maybe this was a trait he intentionally sprinkled into Clara as showrunner

“Look gang, a door!” “I wonder where it leads” *doesnt open* “We’ll never know 😔”

"Stop it..." 🤨

No ! :)

same

Possibly several times depending on who "The Impossible Girl" became during her battle against The Great Intelligence.

I wonder if Clara ever found out that "Amy, the Doctor's long-legged friend" and "Amelia Williams the Author" (whom she is shown to be a fan of in Bells of Saint John) were the same person. She clearly didn't know by ToTD because she gets confused when 11 mumbled something about "Amelia" in his last moments, but I like to think they discussed it sometime later, maybe in the context of when they visited Jane Austen & the subject of favorite writers comes out.

*cough* *cough* river *cough* *cough*

@@dincjfs Let's be fair, River was with people while she was married to the Doctor, and given her track record she probably wouldn't mind

@@reubenbeacham7041 honestly yea probably

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Some people don’t feel the need to define the doctor and all his companions into some romantic nonsense.

I think the original plan was that the Doctor was going to have the Victorian-era Clara as his companion. But BBC didn't want that and wanted a modern-day companion as per Doctor Who tradition. So Clara Oswin Oswald from 2014-2015 would join. Missed opportunity, but understandably so as to why there are so many Variants of Clara later seen in "The Heart of the TARDIS" episode.

I loved the real her, she was fun idk how any Clara can be seen as boring in season 7 unless you're referring to her in later seasons.

But it makes sense. That Clara was a variant of the real Clara after being with the Doctor for a while, so her Victorian character was already molded into a perfect companion to the Doctor.

I get what you're saying, but which was the real Claea?

but his weakness his clear as day lol

enemies to lovers

They're the boy and girl who OBVIOUSLY have crushes on each other but they're afraid to admit it 😂😂

Omg u just unlocked a Memory

NOW WAIT A DAMN MINUTE-

I really don't get it because Jodie, Mandip and John have really good chemistry in real life- they all seem like brilliant friends and it just

I think it's really hard for the cast in Thirteen's seasons to do a lot with what they're given, script-wise... Jodie Whitaker is a very good actor, she *can* act, but when writing is such utter trash and has no charisma to it, it's hard to imbue it with much charisma. A great example of this is the Master in Power of the Doctor, whose acting was incredible, but most of their lines were terrible, so even if you roll that turd in glitter, it's still a turd...

Jodie really isn't the problem. She is a wonderful actress and portrays the Doctor really well. I do think that it's the writer's fault that she didn't shine as bright as she could have. And because she is the first female Doctor and a lot of fans already hated that idea, I think they shied away from flirty chemistry with any of the companions. I wish they would have embraced Jodie as the Doctor a bit more. Not every Doctor needs to have a completely new backstory and I think it would have been better if they didn't try a soft-reboot with 13 like they did with 11. Their script ideas simply weren't strong enough for that. If the Doctor had taken a companion from 12th era into her 13th era and make her lose them it would have been better. 13 is in many ways a lot like 11 and they should have embraced that and sent her on more wacky adventures.

@@JacktheRah Jodie is a good actress, but was not the right actor for the role of the Dr. She didn't fit and didn't suit the role at all. She just wasn't the right person for the role. Just didn't suit her acting abilities ...

Well #notmydoctor and Russell will reboot Dr who the 60th hopefully will have this level of writing like a soft reboot is only way to reboot from a fake to Dr normal. Without fake or woke. "Ncuti in season 14 back to normal am I. And burn unlucky fake tapes like the lost bbc 1960 tapes.

I could never adapt to the new person and would always fall back to my old save file about them.

Smith could have chemistry with a rock

@@tevcon317 literally he’s such a good actor that anything he flirts with is so believable and shipable

Ehhh I’m still team Amy. Even though I know they’re more familiar.

@@tevcon317honestly so true

Exactly!

Until the end

The point was it was the opposite of what Victorian Clara did.

@@Black.Sabbath It was justified that time

Like an obedient good-girl daughter, not a wife or equal who challenges him to be a better person. She’s literally his daughter people

Just seen that bit 🤣

Tbh Matt smith is such an amazing actor he has chemistry with almost everyone

I agree, they fulfill my love for found family and you can just TELL how much they need each other

Oh god I've been looking for this clip of 11 spanking Clara's bum

I suggest watching the other 31590 minutes (it will hurt but you should watch it anyway)

well most of the fandom are either blind or brainless

Since the recent doctors writing hasn’t been up to par most fans appreciate series 7 now I always have but even more now

*cums*

"I'm wearing a wig."

What episode is that? I can’t seem to remember it for some reason

@@Sj-wb1hc The Time of the Doctor

Donna???

Wilf survived. So did Jackson Lake and Rosita.

Not only did Donna survive but she became a full-time companion

The line makes all the sense, but it's not because Clara was telling the truth, but because she is avoiding emotional vulnerability due to her need to be in control of things. The prequel to 'Name of the Doctor' makes is pretty explicit that she loves him romantically but is making the choice not to make it official because that might complicate things. The situation in "Deep Breath" is basically that both thought the other wanted to break up & pretended to be ok with it to at least save the friendship. (rather like both dupe the other at the end of 'Death in Haven') But it's clear that neither of them is really over it in series 8 ("beat *that* for a date!") And I mean they effectively get back together in "Last Christmas" (when Clara says he's the one person she would have considered marrying) & are basically an item throughout series 9. He full on plays 'pretty woman' at her with his guitar & alot of their dialogues are very romantic.

why do they hate, they are so sweet

Agreed Clara and Amy would have so much fun And if it wasn't for Rose and Clara both liking the doctor romantically, they would get on fairly well too but diverge in some ways.

@@ladyfoxwf1075 theyd be fine they love different regenerations

@@ladyfoxwf1075 Weren´t Clara and Rose friends at some point?

@@cargo71 No but I wish