The Ultimate Ancient Roman Iceberg Explained

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Idiot Talks History

Idiot Talks History

Күн бұрын

Welcome to the Roman Iceberg! This iceberg touches on nearly every aspect of Roman history, from Rome's greatest men like Julius Caesar, Augustus, and Cicero to Rome's downfall and even aspects of Roman history that you may not be all that well versed in such as Lepidus and Majorian. If it deals with Rome it probably got mentioned at some point in this video!
Rome and its people are some of the most studied aspects of history in the entire world. And yet, underneath all of the most showy and most well-known aspects of Roman history exists a deep and storied history that many people either know nothing about or have skipped over in favor of the more flashy aspects of Roman history. That is why I decided to create the Roman History Iceberg. 10 Tiers of various deep and not so deep cuts of Roman history filled to the brim with important people, events, places, and theories in Roman history all made with the goal of introducing all of you to some pieces of history that I feel are missed out on.
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Sources Used:
Suetonius, Lives of the Twelve Caesars
Livy, Ab Urbe Condita
Cassius Dio, Roman History
Ptolemy, Geography
Polybius, The Histories
Tacitus, Annals
Dionysius of Halicarnassus, Roman Antiquities
Ammianus Marcellinus, The Roman History of Ammianus Marcellinus
Pliny the Elder, The Natural History
Hydatius, The Chronicle of Hydatius. And the Consularia Constantinopolitana
John of Antioch, Historia Chronike
Procopius, Vandalic War
Valerius Maximus, Memorable Deeds and Sayings: One Thousand Tales from Ancient Rome
Cicero, De Divinatione
Zosimus: Historia Nova
Sallust: The Histories
Julius Caesar: The Conquest of Gaul
Tacitius: On the life and character of Julius Agricola
Cicero: The Catilinarian Orations
Gaius Sallustius Crispus: Bellum Catilinae
Mary Beard, SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome
Richard D. Weigel, Lepidus: the Tarnished Triumvir
John Freely, The Grand Turk: Sultan Mehmet II - Conqueror of Constantinople and Master of an Empire
Susan Raven, Rome in Africa
Penny MacGeorge, Late Roman Warlords
Robert Habermann, The Last Emperor of Rome
Peter Bang, Commanding and Consuming the World: Empire, Tribute, and Trade in Roman and Chinese History
Hyun Jin Kim, Rome and China Points of Contact
Riccardo Bellucci: Alba Longa
Philip Matyszak: Sertorius and the Struggle for Spain
Byron Nakamura: Palmyra and the Roman East
Richard Stoneman: Palmyra and Its Empire: Zenobia's Revolt against Rome
Stephen Dano-Collins: The Great Fire of Rome: The Fall of the Emperor Nero and His City
Lewis M Hopfe: Archaeological indications on the origins of Roman Mithraism
Richard Gordon: The Cult of Roman Mithras: The God and his Mysteries
Roger Beck: The Religion of the Mithras Cult in the Roman Empire: Mysteries of the Unconquered Sun
Miranda Aldhouse-Green: Caesar's Druids: Story of an Ancient Priesthood
Ronald Hutton: Blood and Mistletoe: The History of the Druids in Britain
Duncan B. Campbell: Mons Graupius AD 83: Rome’s Battle at the Edge of the World
Ilkka Syvänne: Gordian III and Philip the Arab: The Roman Empire At a Crossroads
David MacDonald: The Death of Gordian III: Another Tradition
Walter Burkert: Ancient Mystery Cults
Carl Ruck, Albert Hofmann and R Gordon Wasson: The Road to Eleusis
Sandra Bingham, The Praetorian Guard: A History of Rome's Elite Special Forces
Adrian Goldsworthy, The Fall of the West: The Slow Death of the Roman Superpower
Matthew Jordan Storm, The Exarch’s Son: Heraclius of Carthage Battles the False Emperor
Peter H. Wilson, The Holy Roman Empire: A Thousand Years of Europe's History
Paul Stephenson, Constantine: Unconquered Emperor
Timothy Barnes, Constantine. Dynasty, Religion and Power in the Later Roman Empire
Richard Winston, Charlemagne: From The Hammer to The Cross
Caroline Finkel, Osman's Dream: The History of the Ottoman Empire
Gary Forsythe, A Critical History of Early Rome: From Prehistory to the First Punic War
P.M.W. Tennant, The Lupercalia and the Romulus and Remus Legend
0:00 - Intro and Tier 1
18:18 - Tier 2
30:20 - Tier 3
53:22 - Tier 4
1:13:47 - Tier 5
1:29:00 - Tier 6
2:05:23 - Tier 7
2:34:31 - Tier 8
3:03:46 - Tier 9
3:27:26 - Tier 10
3:48:28 - Outro

Пікірлер: 74
@martijndevries8074
@martijndevries8074 Күн бұрын
Man just casually drops the best rome video i have seen in a while.
@ilovekenshi
@ilovekenshi 13 күн бұрын
Legendary recommended pull
@CrisisMoon7
@CrisisMoon7 Күн бұрын
Went to sleep, woke up with the videos still playing
@tlip3480
@tlip3480 19 күн бұрын
Pullo, back in formation!
@Lyndiloo
@Lyndiloo 5 күн бұрын
Considering this is nearly 4 hours long, it's shocking how many times you said "that's a story for another time" or "I don't have time to talk about all that in this video"... This must be what blue balls feels like.
@annaquay4183
@annaquay4183 22 күн бұрын
Great video. I appreciate your ability to be specific/pedantic and also friendly/accessible. Thank you.
@magustacrae
@magustacrae 26 күн бұрын
Great job on this video! Thoroughly enjoyed it 😉👊
@haroldkrolgor118
@haroldkrolgor118 28 күн бұрын
i love this, keep it up!
@elihyland4781
@elihyland4781 13 күн бұрын
2:54:47 "arms have been taken beyond the shores of Hibernia"-Juvenal what an achhhhhhhingly beautiful phrase im so happy i watched 🤘
@pecare9595
@pecare9595 4 күн бұрын
This is actually an amazing video! You just earned a new subscriber
@nevernerevarine8071
@nevernerevarine8071 11 күн бұрын
Great video!
@noteniceu
@noteniceu 7 күн бұрын
Good ole 4 hour lecture in the depths of KZfaq. Thank you good sir.
@gustavspuke6463
@gustavspuke6463 17 күн бұрын
Excited to watch
@flamingarrow7
@flamingarrow7 21 күн бұрын
Great video
@weaselhack
@weaselhack 21 күн бұрын
feeling a bit sus about this one. gonna bump Cost of Glory Anabasis tonight i think. Shout out Sertorius, shout out Sulla, and huge props to my man Pullo!
@Chichimoco420
@Chichimoco420 14 күн бұрын
Very cool, man
@bobbyokeefe4285
@bobbyokeefe4285 27 күн бұрын
I'm disappointed you didn't include the "Jesus was Caesar" theory of Francesco Carotta,maybe you are not aware of it?If not,hey it could be an idea for a full in depth video for some other time.
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 27 күн бұрын
Wow I have never heard of that. I can tell I'm about to go down a rabbit hole!
@a51raider
@a51raider 3 күн бұрын
Theory is not based in reality that’s why
@juelzsantana1075
@juelzsantana1075 2 күн бұрын
that sound wayyy to absurd to be included in this iceberg. people want to learn real information, not some weird niche theories
@DonnyKirkMusic
@DonnyKirkMusic 2 күн бұрын
@@juelzsantana1075 I don't mean to disagree, I just feel like the idea of the iceberg is also to add fringe theories to the bottom of the iceberg, but things kind of got lost along the way so now the bottom of the iceberg is not all "this game is personalized" or "X event never really happened" type of made-up conjecture.
@ryanrich6734
@ryanrich6734 27 күн бұрын
Loved the video, here's one for the algorhythm
@jakobheidenreich5
@jakobheidenreich5 28 күн бұрын
Interesting how I found this video when it already had 476 views.
@eligoldman9200
@eligoldman9200 29 күн бұрын
Let’s fucking go!
@relaxedsack1263
@relaxedsack1263 29 күн бұрын
Named my cat Cicero because Cicero is also my favorite Roman. Despite his arguably inglorious end. He was the model statemen,
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 28 күн бұрын
Cicero has always been my favorite Roman! Glad to know I'm not alone!
@jacko9293
@jacko9293 21 күн бұрын
Marcus Aurelius is my goat. Cicero is close second.
@Cwilley0624
@Cwilley0624 21 күн бұрын
My favorite Roman is Julius Caesar and he wanted Cicero’s respect so badly and was once moved to tears by Cicero and changed his mind about recalling an exile
@bluebum7408
@bluebum7408 20 күн бұрын
Getting a cane Corso and calling him Caeser
@stevenpartin9208
@stevenpartin9208 20 күн бұрын
Lucius Marcius Septimius
@fleedoop7404
@fleedoop7404 28 күн бұрын
I absolutely love your videos, dude. Your voice is very soothing to listen to, Your style of writing is informative yet easily digestible and your knowledge of my favourite period of history is deep and dense. Finding this channel was like finding a diamond. And I can't wait till you blow up in popularity. I would usually agree that going deeper into topics is better than the surface level. Initially when these videos came out. I didn't like the separated iceberg stuff yet. Now all the videos are collated into a 4 hour video. Not only is it easier to sit through- It feels like the topics are interconnected. Bravo dude once again can't wait for the next one.
@zanlooney343
@zanlooney343 17 күн бұрын
5L of wine? Sounds like a good ol' Australian Goon Bag.
@murrloc1859
@murrloc1859 6 күн бұрын
I grew up in Mexico , Puebla . It was a really small village , we played matutena and zapatito azul , canicas which games with marbles and stones some idk the real names but they’re Roman games which idk how that small village which is basically a dessert end up with those games
@vascoapolonio2309
@vascoapolonio2309 10 күн бұрын
Those people are dangerous and should be kept in tabs
@ambiguousUndertones-
@ambiguousUndertones- 21 күн бұрын
Haven't seen a bloody iceberg so far 😊😊
@marvelfannumber1
@marvelfannumber1 24 күн бұрын
15:42 I don't know how it would be hard to argue against that claim when Rome, far from "never returning" to the possession of the emperors, was returned only like 60 years later, and then the empire held the city again for another 219 years (about the same timespan as the time between Napoleon and today).
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 20 күн бұрын
Fair point about the 60 years later thing, the Byzantines did come into possession of it around 535 after the Gothic War. I should have noted that. But after the Lombard invasion of Italy in 569 it is seriously hard to argue that the Byzantines controlled anything in the city. Nominally they held sovereignty over the area but practically it was controlled via a combination of the Pope, the Franks, the Lombards, and the Byzantines on the side. But fair point I really should have noted that!
@marvelfannumber1
@marvelfannumber1 20 күн бұрын
@@idiottalkshistory What makes you say that? The Popes still required imperial approval after being elected up to Pope Benedict II in 684. The Exarch of Ravenna arrested the Pope on numerous occasions and dictated foreign policy against the Lombards. Not to mention that Constans II straight up visited Rome in 663, and moved the capital to Sicily during his reign. I think it's pretty hard to argue the empire did not have control of Rome, when the emperor was able to visit.
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 12 күн бұрын
Fair point. This isn't my main area of focus so I will definitely defer you to as it seems you have a much better grasp on the situation than I do!
@Iowan3-0
@Iowan3-0 16 күн бұрын
9:10 Looks like the Greeks forgot to copyright their religion lol.
@countdowntorevolution9986
@countdowntorevolution9986 10 күн бұрын
why tf has everyone suddenly started calling consuls, "consoles"???
@conseglierie
@conseglierie 18 сағат бұрын
Very nice video, but the palmyrian boy was called "Wahbʾalatus" and not "fahfahwahlus"
@gazhevski
@gazhevski 28 күн бұрын
Good video, but if you keep saying 'sEaSar' I dare you to consistently call Cleopatra "Sleopatra"
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 27 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yeah, I might be the worst person on the face of the Earth at pronouncing anything to be honest! I really do try though I promise.
@trevorleclair4935
@trevorleclair4935 17 күн бұрын
Pretentious tbh, thats how people pronounce caesar in english
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 16 күн бұрын
They do not want to be called "Berbers", they are Amazigh
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 12 күн бұрын
Apologies! I did not know that, will make a note for the future!
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 12 күн бұрын
@@idiottalkshistory I am not Amazigh, and I just found out recently myself despite having a history degree, so no apology necessary. That's what's great about our subject - you can read and learn for a lifetime and there's always more. Enjoying your channel, keep up the good work.
@melvindersingh200
@melvindersingh200 7 күн бұрын
TrunQ 2024
@driver2469
@driver2469 3 күн бұрын
Would the early Byzantine Empire be considered Roman?
@vooptr
@vooptr 15 сағат бұрын
It’s all Roman. Always has been.
@calvincoolidge5943
@calvincoolidge5943 21 күн бұрын
1:00:22 Charles the 8th? More like the VIII
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 20 күн бұрын
Just got my Roman historian card revoked!
@denizinneed6384
@denizinneed6384 24 күн бұрын
Ancient Kurdistan iceberg bitte
@relaxedsack1263
@relaxedsack1263 28 күн бұрын
"evil women out for power" As is every man in the period.
@bobbyokeefe4285
@bobbyokeefe4285 27 күн бұрын
Yeah but the difference is that men rise to power through strength both physical/mental,women use people behind the scenes(usually other men)through manipulation.
@relaxedsack1263
@relaxedsack1263 24 күн бұрын
@@bobbyokeefe4285 most powerful men of the times also worked behind the scenes as well.i cant name a single person who actually gained power by "strength"
@muricanpepe3100
@muricanpepe3100 23 күн бұрын
“Ummm yeah, but men are freaking mean too okay?!?!?” No one said men aren’t out for power… so why do you feel the need to specify that?
@relaxedsack1263
@relaxedsack1263 23 күн бұрын
@@muricanpepe3100 seemed like you where specifying it was purely a male urge
@muricanpepe3100
@muricanpepe3100 22 күн бұрын
How is that what you took away from what I said? My point is that you deflected as soon as someone mentioned anything negative about a woman. I only made a point because that is often what happens when someone says literally anything slightly negative about women.
@jayvalentin6339
@jayvalentin6339 16 күн бұрын
The ROMAN’S where Spanish too 😂 the statues are white due to all the paint fell off , its as if you show skull and bones when people show off the statues without paint lol
@ArakeenArchivist
@ArakeenArchivist 22 күн бұрын
>thinks the Ottomans were the true successors to Rome >randomly inserts a tirade against southerners/ conservatives/ anyone who doesn't believe the mainstream media re: the 2020 election >favorite emperor is Julian Reddit moment
@annaquay4183
@annaquay4183 22 күн бұрын
Hahaha, your life is shit.
@calvincoolidge5943
@calvincoolidge5943 21 күн бұрын
Stop crying, Dixie
@idiottalkshistory
@idiottalkshistory 20 күн бұрын
> don't think any state is the real successor of Rome was mostly being funny > I live in the South, born and raised as well, I can talk about it however I want to and I mostly referring to COVID not the election > Julian = the Goat cope and seethe
@fuckdeathpoisonanthrax
@fuckdeathpoisonanthrax 19 күн бұрын
@@idiottalkshistoryit’s Scotland. You know, blood transfusion…
@kennan6176
@kennan6176 11 күн бұрын
Well, the Osmans claimed the legacy of Rome, and the pope tried to get it back. Google the crusade of varna to see the outcome.
@jcarroll7371
@jcarroll7371 6 күн бұрын
Dam I just subbed yesterday. I'm glad u let me know u are a partisan hack so I can unsub and never watch you crap again. Appreciate it bro
@Farticle
@Farticle 21 күн бұрын
Really great video. Only thing I didn’t know was the Palmyrene Empire. Probably because reading about the crisis of the 3rd century and after just makes me depressed.
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