The unnamed BBC presenter scandal, Oli's LBC debut and George Osborne's big day | Pubcast #11

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PoliticsJOE

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11 ай бұрын

On this week's Pubcast we're chatting about the topic on everyone's lips, Oli Dugmore's new LBC show.
The BBC presenter scandal has taken over this week and we discuss the latest, including the implications on all parties involved should the allegations be untrue.
We look at the conversation on Oli's LBC phone-in about drug legalisation following Scotland's call to decriminalise personal use of all drugs.
Finally, we dissect the outrage that surrounded the protester at George Osborne's wedding over the weekend and the cryptic email sent before the event.
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@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE 11 ай бұрын
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@Czechbound
@Czechbound 11 ай бұрын
I don't even live in the UK, but I really enjoy these pubcasts. I wish every country had something similar : young, informed people able to comment on current events, and critique, draw conclusions and give underlying reasons for bad behaviour on the part of their representatives. And it's so engaging. Well done team !
@EamonCoyle
@EamonCoyle 11 ай бұрын
Why doesn't someone use their parliamentary privilege to read out the names of all the elected MP's and party employees who have been accused to bullying and sexual harassment (just to name two) while working there ?
@suechapman5822
@suechapman5822 11 ай бұрын
I think it would take too long.
@PortilloMoment
@PortilloMoment 11 ай бұрын
Bringing Parliamentary privilege into disrepute (since no conviction has taken place) since details will come out if guilt is established. Parliament is poisonous enough without a gaggle of folk sharpening extra knives because they were 'outed'. Would you put a large target on your back in your workplace?
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 11 ай бұрын
they seem to get outed anyway tbf. Including one ex-tory who has had fresh allegations about them publicised this week
@EamonCoyle
@EamonCoyle 11 ай бұрын
@@PortilloMoment Then why is it okay for them to use it to out other people from other walks of life when they are protected from within it.
@petestan5186
@petestan5186 10 ай бұрын
Starmer mandelson Saville discrepancies...I mean for real
@HaHa-yl1kj
@HaHa-yl1kj 11 ай бұрын
So the question we all want answering, did Ava get her Swifty tickets?
@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE 11 ай бұрын
not yet
@HaHa-yl1kj
@HaHa-yl1kj 11 ай бұрын
@@PoliticsJOE I've got 2 tickets for her show at Anfield but I'm taking Ed. Sorry Ava.
@Burger1234
@Burger1234 11 ай бұрын
You’re on to something really special with this podcast - Keep up the good work team!
@tbrooke3016
@tbrooke3016 11 ай бұрын
Oli: "I'm not gonna riff on this by myself" Also Oli: gets a lbc gig by himself without the golden boy or the only serious journalist
@petestan5186
@petestan5186 10 ай бұрын
Always ask how? Lols
@palacefan4286
@palacefan4286 11 ай бұрын
That thumbnail is incredible 😂😂
@boogaloo4640
@boogaloo4640 11 ай бұрын
I'm more interested in Boris Johnson's Whatsapp messages tbh. Shame the media's going OTT on the BBC thing instead. Good day to bury bad news?
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson 11 ай бұрын
The allegations are being pushed by the Sun. I think this may be Murdoch trying to distract from the Talk TV Ofcom probe.
@katrinabillings7011
@katrinabillings7011 11 ай бұрын
Yes there's a hidden agenda here.
@BrunoTheWulf
@BrunoTheWulf 11 ай бұрын
Yep. This right here. Was thinking the same thing. I can imagine something is either being pushed through fast or being buried.
@itsalwaystwentyfivetosixo.3805
@itsalwaystwentyfivetosixo.3805 11 ай бұрын
​it just struck me, do you think osborne might have hired the confetti thrower to overshadow the news of the email?
@Funglutton
@Funglutton 11 ай бұрын
A lot of people are thinking this. "I make buses" springs to mind (when this interview, by someone subsequently given a peerage, stole all search results for "Boris bus". I imagine this steals all search traffic for "George Osborne wedding".
@Gideonsmythe
@Gideonsmythe 11 ай бұрын
Were you all drinking non-alcoholic drinks to reduce the chance of saying a name by accident? Or is the weekend still hurting?
@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE 11 ай бұрын
just staying hydrated
@ian_b5518
@ian_b5518 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant show with all the discrepancies. Ava has a twinkle in her eye before dropping the boys into hot water.
@kyatex7464
@kyatex7464 11 ай бұрын
Had this on with youtube's captions and the line "So Matt Smith is dating an animal?" was an unexpected miscaption...
@jonathaneffemey944
@jonathaneffemey944 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting.
@f1remandg
@f1remandg 11 ай бұрын
Very good and some very good points raised!
@ProTantoQuid
@ProTantoQuid 11 ай бұрын
What parent faced with an abuse of a child, reports it to the BBC and Sun but not the police? The "victim" has said the parent is not telling the truth! Why in the opening did the presenters think this a funny topic?
@sandham
@sandham 11 ай бұрын
The Step-Dad reported it to the Police first, and was told no crime had been committed.
@siobhan-rae
@siobhan-rae 11 ай бұрын
estranged parents
@ProTantoQuid
@ProTantoQuid 11 ай бұрын
@@sandham He has varied his claim a number of times eg that nobody at the BBC would talk to him; that he had a 30minute discussion with someone at the BBC; and that the discussion lasted an hour. Just don't know what has been made up by the papers or how much his tongue runs away with him. If the police told him there wasn't a problem, why did he go to the BBC? Their hands would be largely tied in the absence of proof particularly given the reaction of the purported victim . Sad all round.
@barnaclefelching4079
@barnaclefelching4079 11 ай бұрын
This podcast is consistently entertaining, highly unusual
@TheStevenWhiting
@TheStevenWhiting 11 ай бұрын
0:47 And Matthew Wright Who should never of had a TV career for essentially ruining and destroying John Leslie's life and career.
@northwall9243
@northwall9243 10 ай бұрын
Insane to hear the guy from the LBC clip using the "gateway drug" argument about weed. So crazy to hear people still bring that up in 2023, it was debunked like 20 years ago.
@swarming1092
@swarming1092 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have this podcast any other way than as a "hot mess", Oli. Also, it's not a pubcast if you're all drinking water.
@Patrick-jj5nh
@Patrick-jj5nh 11 ай бұрын
best uk politics banter podcast
@5hif7yx86
@5hif7yx86 11 ай бұрын
if weed is a gateway drug why doesn't Amsterdam have the one of the worst drug problems in the world?
@leejohnson3209
@leejohnson3209 11 ай бұрын
At 38 I started dating a 21 year old woman. The relationship lasted 4 years but by the end it was so clear to me that she was too young for me. It was a mistake in all honesty, but I don't regret it.
@LylaMoshi
@LylaMoshi 11 ай бұрын
Out of interest, how did your perspective change between the start and end of the relationship?
@leejohnson3209
@leejohnson3209 11 ай бұрын
@@LylaMoshi The things we had in common faded. I was a young 38, but when I lost my dad I think I changed. Other things became more important to me. I started acting more my age and she of course stayed a 20 something. The differences in our outlooks and perspective which had always been there to a degree because of the age gap, at that point became more apparent to me. We grew apart.
@EamonCoyle
@EamonCoyle 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with Eva, I am 40 and being single I obviously can't find a connection with someone around my age who has the same level of life experience so for me to date someone at 20 would be me lowering my expectation of a relation and also to a degree taking advantage of the younger woman's lack of life experience. I would also say it is a two way street and there are a section of women in their 20's (and probably men) who seek out more financially stable, older partners to fulfil their economic desires rather than anything else.
@PoetryandPetrol
@PoetryandPetrol 11 ай бұрын
The big issue is that people decide an allegation is true even after said allegation is "proven" untrue. It sticks.
@Neil070
@Neil070 11 ай бұрын
True. The supposed victim has said vehemently that it is untrue. In any normal scenario that would be the end of it. It wasn't, and mysterious new "victims" have been found. How deep into the petty cash did the Sun have to dig? Can you imagine the police continuing an investigation into a theft if the complainant said 'actually I've just found the wallet down the back of my sofa"?
@robgrainger5314
@robgrainger5314 11 ай бұрын
The law didn't change in relation to Cliff Richard, he won at court under existing law, but that set a precedent that affected future behaviour by papers and broadcasters.
@LionRafale
@LionRafale 11 ай бұрын
Love the thumbnail
@adrianaspalinky1986
@adrianaspalinky1986 11 ай бұрын
Not only that, Nicky Campbell, (after Wheel of Fortune), made a good career for himself on good honest respectable journalism.
@MrDanJB85
@MrDanJB85 11 ай бұрын
I understood the standard ‘age weirdness’ formula was it’s weird to date under (age/2)+7. It captures that intuitive point that wider age gaps are ok between older adults - so for a 50 year old that comes out at 32 (an age gap of 18 years) but for a 25 year old it comes out at 20 (only a 5 year age gap).
@bresolin88
@bresolin88 11 ай бұрын
link to the Scottish documentary?
@kierancorrigan9347
@kierancorrigan9347 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9amds1exM2ZcYE.html&ab_channel=PoliticsJOE
@windupmerchant1679
@windupmerchant1679 11 ай бұрын
If I had to guess I'd say it's Mr Blobby, I often wondered why they took him off-air but it all makes sense now.
@MattHealey.
@MattHealey. 11 ай бұрын
Oil’s point regarding the glasgow alleyway reminds me of the David Simon book ‘the corner’ which proves what he says to be true
@upendasana7857
@upendasana7857 11 ай бұрын
One of the questions is why it its taken the BBC so long to carry out any investigation internally or suspending the presenter until they know whether there are legal implications or not and laws were broken.
@ballyhigh11
@ballyhigh11 11 ай бұрын
Because the BBC get literally hundreds of complaints against their on screen employees every week.
@frankcarter6427
@frankcarter6427 11 ай бұрын
there's no discrepancy - a child of 16 can consent to sex but remains protected from humiliating sexual exploitation until they reach adulthood at 18 - good , decent law
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 11 ай бұрын
Because you go to bed naive & stupid the day before your 18th birthday and wake up worldly wise and knowing everything.
@frankcarter6427
@frankcarter6427 11 ай бұрын
@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 because any functioning culture takes steps to protect its young
@jasonmann2902
@jasonmann2902 11 ай бұрын
That's interesting. Maybe the legal logic is that the media from sex is potentially more dangerous, or more likely to lead to exploitation than the carnal act itself. Even if the laws were created pre-internet, it kinda acknowledges how any media becomes forever permanent when uploaded to the internet
@dw-yl3ln
@dw-yl3ln 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’m with the Gen Z. Big age difference in relationships creeps me out. And usually ends in tears.
@kiriakoz
@kiriakoz 11 ай бұрын
I lived in UK for a while, and still keep an interest in your politics but I always forget about how crazy your media landscape is.
@pandemoniumgaming6344
@pandemoniumgaming6344 11 ай бұрын
Oil got a great voice for radio talk show and I hope he continues and gets the confidence he needs to control the calls better because that guy was talking some nonesense about gateway drug which oil should have challenged. But it's obvious he's first ever time doing it and it's 4am the fact he can speak is impressive with cocaine :D
@goingoutotheparty1
@goingoutotheparty1 11 ай бұрын
What a delightful couple 😂
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 11 ай бұрын
Poor Ava - always the bridesmaid, never the bride
@paulmolloy689
@paulmolloy689 11 ай бұрын
In case anyones looking for the video theyre talking about RE scotland, the full title of it on youtube is " On the streets of Scotland's suicide and drug deaths crisis."
@Matt-ee9zc
@Matt-ee9zc 11 ай бұрын
Found it through typing deaths of despair. Was a good watch, if a bit shorter than I would have liked
@fdsdh1
@fdsdh1 11 ай бұрын
How many times has this happened now. Unbelievable for the BBC! What a mess.
@ballyhigh11
@ballyhigh11 11 ай бұрын
Not nearly as many times as for the Tory party. Or Labour and the LibDems for that matter.
@TheMdog8
@TheMdog8 11 ай бұрын
The email is on pastebin links all over Twitter
@dagingerdude
@dagingerdude 11 ай бұрын
what happened at the end there?! hahahha
@shuaibafzal6042
@shuaibafzal6042 11 ай бұрын
I think olli is a low-key genius. There’s just something about his eyes that screams I’ve got a bigger plan here!
@GerinoMorn
@GerinoMorn Ай бұрын
When I was growing up (back in Europe), and I was 14-15, pretty much 75% of girls at school were dating older guys, and the usual age of them was 19-23. Thinking back it is horrifying, but it was so common it didn't even shock me. And those weren't "romantic, innocent courtship", I have literally heard them discussing, in no uncertain means, what kind of sex they prefer. And even aside the obvious (I hope) problem here there was also the effect of that on the boys - you could forget of having a gf if you weren't 18+, with a license and a car. (Or at least such was the prevailing sentiment)
@nomoreheroes93
@nomoreheroes93 11 ай бұрын
Lol that Oli is using a deeper voice on LBC than when he speaks on the Pubcast
@christopherwilliams2093
@christopherwilliams2093 10 ай бұрын
Oli is therefore broadcasting in a radio studio when on LBC so that is the big difference and therefore the LBC microphone has a different setting to that in the PoliticsJOE studio. By the way, Oli was on this morning between 4.00am and 7.00am (5th August 2023) and on again tomorrow morning (6th August 2023) between 4.00am and 7.00am. Another is that he talks away from the microphone in the video but closer when on LBC like the other presenters do.
@LimeyRedneck
@LimeyRedneck 11 ай бұрын
I'm still wondering what the '49' stuff is all about... 🤠💜
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 11 ай бұрын
15:06 - I could be wrong but if I remember rightly it was Giggs' affair with Imogen Thomas which was the affair under super-injunction but then later his affair with his brother's wife was also released to the public
@wintanatesfay39
@wintanatesfay39 11 ай бұрын
So are we not going to address Ava whooping at the start.
@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE 11 ай бұрын
someone's got to do it
@Holismleith
@Holismleith 11 ай бұрын
That got weird.
@jstelzner
@jstelzner 11 ай бұрын
These days I see a lot of young school kids snorting nitrous gas! Chris Hedges calls it Anomie in his books. 😟 worrying times.
@martincopeland8153
@martincopeland8153 11 ай бұрын
No young person ever employed the “honey trap” manoeuvre to take advantage of an older person for their own selfish motives! They would never play on their gullibility by tricking them into believing they found their wrinkley old body attractive for personal gain. And they would never burst into tears and blame the wrinkley when found out. Of course they wouldn’t! 🙄
@tbrooke3016
@tbrooke3016 11 ай бұрын
Love politics hate nonces merch when?????
@yttommy76
@yttommy76 11 ай бұрын
Everyone knows it’s half your age plus 7 is allowed
@RandallSlick
@RandallSlick 11 ай бұрын
Glimpses of the new Matt Stadlen. A glittering future at GB News beckons.
@philiprowney
@philiprowney 11 ай бұрын
Even the BBC have outed him.
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 11 ай бұрын
Erm...
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 11 ай бұрын
17:55 "95% certain I would say" Anyone fancy lending Oli a dictionary to research the definition of the word 'certain'? 😉
@mystic_mimi21
@mystic_mimi21 11 ай бұрын
The guy who said that weed is a gateway isnt completely wrong but not all weed users want to chase the high and use it to calm them down, pain relief stress relief which is what i used it for, my adhd and anxiety is often interfering with my life, and contributes to my insomnia. Yes some go on to others but making legal or illegal wont stop people it means if someone od or is a adict they wont be affraid to get help. We need to look at holland. We need to solve the causes of addiction and destigmatise addiction rather than blame be sympathetic. Im certain more have died due to alcohol ie liver failure, drunk driving killing others and themselves, damage to property. Same with tabcco smoking. The part about why people do or dont get addicted is a combo of social factors (ie class) but there is a genetic element. The war on drugs targets the poor, same with crime, white collar crime is ignored and arguably hurts more. The same can be said for white collar drug uses why should hedge funder doing white lines not be shamed the same way a crack head on the street is?
@Vanilla_Bushwhacking
@Vanilla_Bushwhacking 11 ай бұрын
If you're in your 40s and you're dating someone in their 20s, why doesn't anyone your age like you? THAT is the red flag question no one asks.
@Deedumdee
@Deedumdee 5 ай бұрын
love podcasts hate nonsense it's the politics joke podcast ladies and gentlemen
@plebjames
@plebjames 11 ай бұрын
What was Giles Coren accused of?
@f1remandg
@f1remandg 11 ай бұрын
Oh come on it’s never for the money or the body, it’s always for the mind! ? Isn’t it, how about 28 female to 59 male?
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 11 ай бұрын
Children of Josh Widdecombe
@tech360gamer
@tech360gamer 11 ай бұрын
Drugs are already legal anyway as it's always been out there so why not allow them to be sold in a better manner so people can get it from a clean source than random people selling it. Also, I don't really think that allowing cannabis will make people want other drugs just the same as people who drink beer or wine don't just start wanting higher abv alcoholic drinks, do they. Not to forget cannabis is already legal for medical use when getting it private for certain reasons since 2018 Also, yeah I am with you on that too. No person who is an alcoholic or drug addict is wanting to do it for the sake of it. If people knew about addiction more then they'd not see it like that not to forget that some people have DNA that makes them already more likely to be addicted to drugs or alcohol. I do wish people could see addictions even smoking a caring and respectful view.
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 11 ай бұрын
Youngest one times 5, divide by 9 and add 7. Or something.
@daam
@daam 11 ай бұрын
The collective term for a group of paedophiles is "a corporation of nonces" 3:04
@julielevinge266
@julielevinge266 10 ай бұрын
But wasn’t their a story long before this of him breaking his girlfriends nose in a nightclub???
@Homofitnesss
@Homofitnesss 11 ай бұрын
More Beard Ollie
@awkwardatlas5623
@awkwardatlas5623 11 ай бұрын
Did Ava get those tix tho?!?
@supersonicsjm
@supersonicsjm 11 ай бұрын
I don't think Matt Smith's current girlfriend is 24. I believe she's in her early 30's.
@RedandWhiteKlopp
@RedandWhiteKlopp 10 ай бұрын
Let yourselves down on this one. Opening using the the nonce term is akin to using a picture of Rylan next to an article. Leave it alone until you have the facts or treat it with the sensitivity it deserves. Also don't use the Sun as any kind of source.
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 11 ай бұрын
Like deployed 👍
@mystic_mimi21
@mystic_mimi21 11 ай бұрын
I would argue that people under 18 shouldnt go out with people above 18, people 18-15 shouldnt date above 25, 25+ free game but it is about power and influence not age. I say this as yes people do develop mentally and physically at different rates however given we know the brain doesnt fully develop until 25 and those younger than that make decions ruled by the area which commands emotion not the area which rules reason. Also as a 22 year old i still feel very young despite going to uni etc but feel old enough to know to not date an 18 year old. I have now business dating a teen, likewise i do not have anything in common with 40 year olds. Its weird to me, and the argument of 'preference' or 'type' doesn't fly. Look at leonardo dicaprio, he is pushing 50 and could likely pull any woman he wanted older or younger but chooses to date under 25 which to me reads no one his age wants him and that he wants women too young who have still developing brains and he can have power over them.
@nomoreheroes93
@nomoreheroes93 11 ай бұрын
That intro is going to prove awkward if it turns out one of the PJ team is a nonce
@JB-pk4ck
@JB-pk4ck Ай бұрын
awful bunch .
@jasoncampbell444
@jasoncampbell444 11 ай бұрын
How is Harry Potter on this podcast?
@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE 11 ай бұрын
we film in the three broomsticks
@Storm1312
@Storm1312 11 ай бұрын
People get real mad when you bring up Bowie being a nonce, i suppose it's ok if you write a few songs people like. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@peartreeproductions77
@peartreeproductions77 11 ай бұрын
My wife's 20 years younger, cash back
@tranquilnice775
@tranquilnice775 11 ай бұрын
Ava is a fucking dream.
@Whiplashed
@Whiplashed 11 ай бұрын
Huw could it be?
@cantgoslow
@cantgoslow 11 ай бұрын
You need to issue an apology for that dumb ‘nonce’ statement. Given that the police have stated there was no illegal behaviour here, your opinion that a non heterosexual male looking at images of another male of legal age makes them a nonce is just wrong. There are 1000’s of young gay men in relationships with much older men who would vociferously disagree with your opinion of their chosen relationship.
@rachulus5897
@rachulus5897 11 ай бұрын
yous should be drinking next time.
@sandham
@sandham 11 ай бұрын
Half your age + 7
@maxb88888
@maxb88888 11 ай бұрын
Please can you change the intro, its hard to watch
@Tamaxlia
@Tamaxlia 11 ай бұрын
It's very responsible for you drinking water doing a podcast on MDMA and cocaine ;p
@ten4our
@ten4our 11 ай бұрын
Does it have to be sex talk every time? 🙄
@stephenwillis9571
@stephenwillis9571 11 ай бұрын
On addiction - great expeiment in the 70s underscoring the issue of envirnoment and addiction search "Rat Park: How a rat paradise changed the narrative of addiction"
@rahca4681
@rahca4681 11 ай бұрын
She is just amazingly BEAUTIFUL, EVERY THING ABOUT HER IS ANGELIC , INTELLLIGENT , CARRIES HERSELF WITH SUCH CLASS. I WANT HER , TRULY BEAUTIFUL♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
@moonman62
@moonman62 11 ай бұрын
Link to the LBC show bros?
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