The reason there seems to be so much uproar about lack of IBIS on the GH5S is because the REVIEWERS are all KZfaq bloggers.

As a new GH5s owner, the low light performance is just rock solid.

As far as the size of the sensor goes and the loss of in-body image stabilization, Panasonic didn't really have a choice. Sony makes this sensor (STARVIS IMX294 variant) this larger size and that is the only way that Panasonic and others could could purchase it. We are seeing other cameras now hitting the market now with this sensor too and they all have to deal with this same "odd" MFT footprint. It really was designed to provide the absolute maximum video performance that MFT could possibly provide. This sensor was designed to literally pack and use up every tiny millimeter of performance that this mount could hold without wasting ANY space whatsoever.(The GH5 uses the Sony IMX272 chip which is the "traditional" MFT sensor size) BlackMagic is claiming 13 stops with theirs. Cant wait to see the first GH5-S vs BlackMagic Pocket 4k comparison. Nice video guys!

Been looking forward to hearing TCSTV's opinion on the GH5S! Thanks for the vid.

This was the most helpful video I've seen on the GH5s on the net. Thanks ;)

You've got a great channel, look forward to the next one.

Thanks for this review. You guys rock. Keep up the great work!

So enjoyable to watch your channel, especially this video...the way you show this... Well done👌👌👍👍 Thank you for sharing this

Excellent review !

Thank you for this video! You're quite good at what you do!!!!

Everytime when Chris Niccolls introduces himself, I hear 'This is Christacles...'

Fun review (hopefully a GH5s v A7III review soon?). Am I the only one who thought the still from the GH5s looked better? Sharper, better color/contrast....

Very good insight. Your channels great. I just bought into the Panasonic family. We purchased the Panasonic AG-DVX200-4k . This appears to be the perfect little brother to it. I was going for the Sony A7Siii but they were out of stock. This makes more sense. I’d like to stay consistent with the brands to make post production a much smoother process. Thank you and any tips you might offer are surely in some of your other videos. You have a new subscriber 👍🏽

contrast and colors look ACE

I wanted to get one. Look, I've been in the MFT ecosystem since the GH2 and I really like it. Camera bodies like the GH5 and E-M1 Mark II... you can't wish for much more from a mirrorless camera. They're ergonomic, weathersealed, have a dual cardslot, vari-angle touchscreen, great batterylife, proper audio interface, et cetera. Sensor stabilization inside. Panasonic really hits it out of the park on video features as well. All the exposure and focus aids and overlays. 10-bit. Anamorphic mode. It's capable alright! But the 4/3" sensor has always kinda been struggling and kept making me check out FF, but more APS-C cameras. Luckily in that area, there's isn't really anything interesting going on. Either the camera body misses some key features or the ecosystem isn't that ideal. With MFT there's just so much going on and for me the best part of the MFT lenses is that they can be kept really small, which ultimately is the thing that makes a system compact. Anyways. I've been interested in shooting video for a couple of years now. Shooting with cameras like the GH2, BMPCC & GH4 allowed us to become cinematographers. On big productions with cinema cameras and expensive cinema lenses you stabilize the camera and pull focus; you won't be relying on sensor stabilization and C-AF. This is how it's been for decades and it certainly isn't going to change anytime soon. So, I'm really not opposed to this process. Not that using a handheld gimbal stabilizer with a camera that has Canon DualPixel AF-like performance would be a bad thing to have for tracking shots. So... I thought to myself... wow, Panasonic sure have brought it with the GH5S. Let's get one! Out with the GH5, in with the new GH5S. But, I never buy full retail, so I was waiting for some kind of incentive, be it a ca$hback or freebie of some sort (XLR unit would've been nice). But no joy just yet. Did plan to use the G9 in addition... 'different job, different tool' I always say. Would be the stills focused camera, that still shoots pretty mean video (and with sensor stabilization, should a scene require this)... ... but we've just had the NAB announcement and Blackmagic Design comes with an actual cinema camera that shoots ProRes and RAW DNG. The original BMPCC was compact and cute and the results were quite astonishing, but... it was a drama to use. Bad screen, bad audio, bad batterylife. They've made i less of an actual 'pocket' camera, but it sure looks a lot more usable. Not sure why they'd bother creating a layout that would make it easier to vlog with (record button on the front where the thumb rests for one)... there's no vari-angle screen. AF is going to be about the worst of any camera out there. Battery life still isn't that great. No sensor stabilization. And... this is a cinema camera... so, you'll want to spend some time on colorcorrection & color grading. This is the opposite of why people pick a Canon to vlog with. Canons have that vari-angle touchscreen. Sure, they don't have sensor stabilization, but they do have the most impressive C-AF in the biz. Most of their cameras are still restricted 1080p... but from a vlogger's perspective, this allows quicker editing, rendering, exporting & uploading = sharing your content quicker. The look straight out of camera with Canons hardly needs any work. I'm really not sure why someone into vlogging... would turn to a cinema camera. In my eyes that's the wrong tool for the job. Anyways, the new Pocket Rocket seems impressive at first sight. What's more impressive is the pricing. It's close to half the price at which the GH5S launched. That's crazy! You can add the also newly announced Atomos Ninja V and you're still paying less than picking up just the GH5S. And they're throwing in a copy of their NLE Studio as well! That's proper value... and probably what I'll be doing this upcoming Q3.

I bought a GH5 in January and then returned it for the GH5s. I'm very happy with my decision. The low light is great and the colors are fantastic. Coming from the GH4 I felt the GH5 wasn't really worth the upgrade, but the GH5s is definitely worth it.

great review as always! Did you get a chance to see Sleep No More?

This was a really helpful video. I'm currently looking to upgrade from my canon t5i for more professional shoots like live events, music videos, and shorts and have been looking into the Canon 7D mark ii and the Canon EOS R for a mirrorless option. I was told the GH5S is even better though. My man hesitation is the price difference and the additional costs that would go into a lens adapter. What are your thoughts on the two?

The grade in the Calgary​ segments looks great!

Loved ! One more time...!

Can you clarify if dual iso is different when using vlog? I heard it was native 800/5000. Thanks.

I like this camera a lot.

Sounds like a great buy for me. I just cant find an information about image stabilisation on the lenses. Do you know if the GH5s can translate/power the Canon L lens stabilisation through an adapter? And which one? Thanks a lot.

Sleep No More at the McKittrick is amazing....

I enjoyed your video as always but when I really like to know is with 12,800 ISO what would be the better camera the GH5S or the A73.

Not being able to decide between nor quite justify the cost of either the GH5 or GH5S, I bought a GH4 and Zhiyun Crane v2 with Olympus native glass from you guys a month ago and am so far liking it. Having never had an IBIS camera before I was concerned with distortion with the lens and sensor being out of sync as well as the IBIS resisting any camera movement like a pan. I was under the impression that you wouldn't want to use IBIS alongside a gimbal, so I figured that the GH4 would be better than a G85 for several things and might help decide between the GH5 and GH5S if and when I'd want to buy a second camera body.

I bought a GH5S for two reasons: reduced noise at slower apertures and a smaller crop factor with video. This way, I can get wide shots that keep everything in focus, yet having the blacks jump around less when lighting isn't great. It doesn't fill the need of a photographer or vlogger really. While the noise may be lower, the noise pixels are larger, and I see that as an issue in my cropped photos. For vlogging, the thing is too big anyways; might as well just use an iPhone imo. KZfaqrs should really love this camera -- although primarily if they are doing tripod work, and generally if indoors. Auto-focus isn't great, but you can make it work usually.

It has amazing color. Great video guys. Which lens for that final shot of Chris?

How stable is footage on GH5S with a gimble, compared to GH5? I'm interested in shooting landscape and wildlife video for a professional project and need something that wont drive me nuts in post with stabilization issues. Also, is the only real advantage of in-body stabilization if you are shooting by hand, or does that in-body stabilization in GH5 also make gimble shooting smoother? Thanks and great review

This review is so cinematic! Wish you the photo of the mountain you shot on the plane is in color and not B&W!

Does using a lens with OIS offset some of the loss of a stabilized sensor?

Do you think there’ll be an open gate option available in future?

Absolutely excellent review, but have to say, I do some intense field work, but will not miss the IBIS, it wasn't, isn't that big of deal.

Looking forward to XH1 review...

Great review, I'm curious since most of the general population aren't necessarily film producers how this will sell compared to a gh5. By the way I like the simple thumbnail what model softbox system are you using here? Thanks

Very curious about moire at 4k- any thoughts?

@TheCameraStoveTv Did you happen to notice any horizontal noise when shooting in VFR mode? I believe there is a camera bug that creates this terrible horizontal noise and a color shift towards green at all frame rates above 60fps. Even worse, I'm seeing unpleasant noise in the darks in 24P as well, even when shooting 10-bit at native ISO. Due to these issues I am really regretting my GH5s purchase and am hoping that Panasonic will find a fix soon...

Chris nails the fundamental flaw of the gh5s at minute 9:45--it belongs on set with "gimbals" and tripods and "lights." If you're in a controlled enough situation to have tripod or tracks or a full glidecam style rig, you're probably also in a situation where you have control over the light. Most of the times indie filmmakers are in a low light situation they may not be able to have a camera stabilizing rig either. Panny says they crippled the gh5s so that shows like Grand Tour could mount their c and d cameras to their cars--but those situations almost never require low light sensitivity. No, I think Panasonic just couldn't figure out a tech problem like heat distribution, then used car shows as a face-saving excuse.

Great review, but if you really want a camera that is superior in low light for a great price it will be the Sony a7sIII and it is only because the sensor is larger. But it all depends on what you want from the camera. You get the camera that suite your needs. The interesting question here is, will Panasonic now focus on that organic sensor, or release new cameras down the line. I do not think Sony will release a new camera for a while, perhaps some APS-C camera but that too will just be a minor upgrade. Who knows, they might not think it is worth doing. It all depends on the market, and I suspect the demand for the a7iii and a7sIII will be crazy so they might focus on that. Anyway we will have to wait and see. Nice video as always.

same noise but much great details, exactly.

I'm not a video guy, but the colors, tones and contrast from the GH5S look amazing! Though I don't watch videos on 8k monitors with my eyeball pressed up against the screen, so most modern camera footage looks decent to me. :-)

Fast and smooth video AF is a more important feature, than IBIS, that micro 4/3 cameras really need!

Hei guys, is Fuji X-H1 review still in the works?

the dust on the left camera's sensor at 1:31 is just too hard to ignore.

Hello, I shoot music videos and I have a canon 5D mark iii, I would like to upgrade but am still confused if I should go for a GH5s or Canon Mark iv, Kindly advise

FYI - the dual ISO values are actually different between Vlog and non-Vlog.

I will go with the GH5S even if it has no IBIS...the quality of the image in the video is more important to me...for the stabilization, there's always a gimbal compatible with the GH5S from Zhiyun, FeiyuTech, and DJI. 😉

Was this video shot with the camera being reviewed?

So should I get the GH4 or GH5 for 400 euro difference

By popular demand please return Chris and Jordan

Cool.

What I WANT right now is a G9. I wish I had known I was going to end up with an a7R 3 because I wouldn't have also bought the X-T2 a few months before the Sony...then I would have my dream combo for now. The a7R 3 (owned) and a Panasonic G9 with an Olympus 12-100 f/4. I loved my GH5 when I had it and I would love the G9 more (since I'm focused on stills).

Currently have the GH5 and considering the S for low light/Tripod work. Question is how does it match with the 5 in post. If I shoot the same profile will they match? The comment about the Canon color science gives me pause.

Great review as always guys 🙂 But I have to say I think the change in colorscience was a mistake. I heavily prefer the "normal" Panasonic colors over Canons. But I'm totaly biased as a Lumix-fanboy and it of course also comes down to personal preference. Cheers!

I think Panasonic needs to strike a deal with Apple for Prores, or they have a huuuge problem with the new Pocketc 4k. How is Panasonics calculation if the BMPCC 4k camera uses a Panasonic sensor? This would be interesting to know. But maybe the sensor isn´t from Pana. Thanks for the entertaining and well presented review.

Stable footage is alot more important to me as well. :)

Is a RED that much bigger? Can only see this being used by Student film makers...

This is a B cam for the EVA-1. That's really what it's for.

After the GH5 came out, high-end movie studios kept buying the GH4 and not upgrading their existing GH4 cameras to the new GH5. As it turned out, the IBIS created problems for them, even when they turned it off. That's one reason why the GH5s doesn't have it.

Does anyone have a link to pocket 4k footage? I keep hearing how amazing it is, but can't find any. Has anyone seen any footage?

Just lovely video all the way around on something I will never buy.

Has anyone tried the GH5S with Optically Stabilized lenses? I know the lens selection would be limited and it's not as good as IBIS but it would surely make it usable for handheld?

I just purchased a second hand GH1 to join my GH2 for video work because I’m like the look of the early footage. Now you have reviewed GH5s couldn’t you please look at a review of where the gh1 fits into the footprint of gh5s.

I was going GH5s...but with the “Pocket 4K” and Sony A7iii... along with the Inferno Ninja 5..... such a good problem to have!

All we need for the Gh5s/Gh5 and all The new camera that Panasonic will release 2019 is better autofocus that's it that was my only reason why I didn't buy it one I start with Sony a6500

Why is this film-camera bilt like a stills-camera ??? ;)

How can one have black and white hair with red beard?

Hi.

Still didn’t decide between gh5s and a7III....I’m struggling with this :)

Well about time...

I don't think the lack of IBIS is anything to worry about even for run-n-gunners as long as they use a gimbal. But this camera's life in its intended market is limited now that we know the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K is coming, and what it's capable of doing - using the same sensor as this camera, at about half the price - including the full Resolve Studio. Panasonic, you have until September to add the ability to completely turn off in-camera NR and sharpening, and add raw signal out through the HDMI. Or else have to massively reduce the price.

Is it really still snowing in Calgary?

I still see the GH5 being a better all around camera that will accommodate 80-90% of most shooting scenarios.. except low light unless you are using speedboosters etc. Also the GH5 is slightly cheaper. I shoot mainly with the viltrox EF-M2 speedbooster and Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 (which is an f1.2 on this setup) and I get great results. Shadow details can be tricky in really low light however using VLOG-L and 10-bit 4:2:2 I get good results and can recover details enough. I think it is better to use the correct tool for the job. If you shoot mostly in dark situations and serious performance is needed, wait for the Sony A7S3 and adapt lenses to it (perhaps even rent one if you need to). Its really going to depend on your budget, your lens investment and shooting conditions. The GH5S is a decent choice however if you have the extra cash and need a B cam to the GH5. I wouldn't buy it however as the A cam as its not flexible enough especially if you are doing more than just video and need photo modes or are traveling with it. The IBIS on the GH5 still comes in handy for more run and gun situations and if you can't carry a tripod around but just a camera bag, its a better option.

I would rather get a Black Magic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. Uses the same sensor, but unlocked to 13 stops of dynamic range.

What happened to Chris and Jordan??

Panasonic GH5S the price is really too high considering the new arrival of the new models of the competitors - the price battle is started with Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K and Sony A7 III - so good price and good quality this is the future battle They sholdn'nt give us good price and bad quality because now we know everything about technology .

Someone s selling used gh4 for 500 euro. Should I get that?

I think the A7iii and new bmpcc are gonna put a hurting on Panasonic, especially at the higher end. Panasonic really needs to speed up the development of that organic sensor- that would be a game changer.

1:32 I jumped at the dust!

Is it just me or is this video really glitchy? Some unsynced video, some problems where it sometimes replays the same split second of video repeatedly. Wierd

Why is the sensor on these new mirrorless cameras only 10 MP?

This or BMPCC 4k?

still pretty expensive when we compare it to A7III?

5 out 8 numbers in my number are 9's. No shit lol, people think it's fake!

If its more suitable to sets, where you've got everything, why would someone (with the budget of a set) choose this camera over any other standard cinema cameras (even the C200-300)? It just makes no sense. However, I would agree that this camera is for the independent film maker that makes short films or commercials on a decent (not cinema) budget and doesn't really care about vlogging or youtube stuff. It is for field use, but for someone with a limited budget or someone just starting out. On a full blown set where you can afford everything else, it is just plain stupid to bring in this camera over any cinema (even low end cinema) cameras. P.S.: For people watching this or any other review, forget the IBIS and all that bullshit if you anyway shoot anything other than youtube videos. Yeah its a great feature but do you really need it? Keep in mind when you watch a review on youtube, it's reviewed by people who mostly do youtubing with their cameras. They are not doing anything wrong in the reviews. It's just that their perspective is almost always pretty much biased to the youtube side. But for someone who is into short films, commercials, etc., you have to look at the features from your point of view. Do you really need that IBIS if you have a gimbal? Even if you didn't have a gimbal, will the IBIS hold up for your follow shots, or creative camera moves? Do you really need that low light capability if you have a lighting crew? More importantly what you need is exposure tools like zebras, accessories support, and the most important thing is reliability. Most youtubers vlog in their native blocks. If the camera stops working, they can just fix the problem in whatever days it takes and redo the video. On a commercial project, if your camera dies and you have no solution, your client will torture you to death! Thus, reliability comes before everything else on a set. Low light, IBIS, etc. are all additional luxury features that you don't really need on a set.

With this budget , i 'll have a DOUBLE (double !??!! WTF !!!) Blackmagic Pocket 4K ..... 2 in the price of one ..... I am not even in the mood talking about specs. I am so jealus of this 3-inch flip LCD .....Looooool Why on earth are we still talking about this GH museum ? Game Over Panasoniconians. :)

Niche product, maybe with internal ND it will be a more interesting option, or with IS, or with better AF. At this point, it is really hard to recommend.

You guys always do a rear job preaenting techno babble in a way us less versed in camera speak can understand

3:03 I was looking down and I thought he farted

Low and behold Blackmagic has destroyed the GH5S with its newly announced Pocket Cinema Camera 4K with dat 12bit RAW 4K 60p at $1.3K. Given it doesn't come out until September, but you know what to expect now.

Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4K makes this obsolete, raw video and half the price.

Think that Panasonic is loosing it indeed that the 43 format is on it's way out... The game has move on with Sony and Fuji kicking butt. Canon /Nikon where are you?

I like the imagery this camera produces. Much better than Sony!

Meh

gh5s has no stabilization. add a gimble, done.

Can't hear that excuse "low light" vs "Ibis" anymore. Truth of the matter is, Panasonic was unable to pull it off in one body. I don't reward premature releases. I rather reward Olympus (I'm not a fan boy, but I certainly am in that regard. They don't release "Betas")

bmpcc 4K all the way. the GH5s looks quite average in DR and those colours are still to plasticky. nothing organic about it.

Had to laugh when these guys bitch about the lack of on board sensor stabilization. Any full pro camera won't have a stabilized sensor ... that's what gimbals and tripods are for. But some lenses also have the optical stabilization so what's the big deal.

Once you go full frame, you never go back. End of story.