If I had a nickel for every ignorant cowboy who tried to sway me from getting an "outlaw" horse I'd be rich!

There does seem to be a trainer “type” out there, doesn’t there? Misogynistic as hell plus cruel on top of it 🤬

@@annepettit3855 Yes. It is very there in the dog world. I don't see it much in the horse world more around dogs now but online not in real life(UK)

I hope the cruel "trainer" sees this video. ​@@TheCleverCowgirl

AGREED!!

Getting over relationship with a narcissist takes as long as relationship was for. Confirmed by the lady married to such person for 25 years.

Yes - Just like traumatized people - it stunts their growth - physically, emotionally, spiritually - you name it.

I understand too well.

Sends a caring embrace to you Nancy. Thank you for understanding, as I understand your understanding too 😉❤️

Spot on. Mal-treatment to a person, or an animal, has grim consequences...often taking years to correct. However, old hurts, wounds and bruises - not just in the physical - *are* healable!!! I speak from experience - God is *still* in the healing business!

Indeed it does 🥰🙏🏻💕

Yes, so true. From experience too, it can truly define your life.

They also underestimated a skilled horse trainer!

They couldn't have been too bright if they chose that horribly abusive trainer.

The owner that sent Pete got way less than $200.00. The auction charged between 5 and 10% fee and that asshat "trainer" charged shipping to the auction. I would be surprised if that "more money than brains" owner got $150 from the deal. Serves a fool right to loose so much money. I bet it was a daddy of an idiot daughter or a "sugar daddy" with a young wife who bought the daughter or wife a toy to train for a fast and flashy barrel racer. I hope they never bought other horses because they had not one scintilla of sense on wow to train or how to pick a trainer.

@@annjohnson8437unfortunately a lot of abusers are good at hiding their assholery from the general public

This is called ‘error punishing error’! Or ‘sod’s law’!

You got that right!

Does anyone know who the trainer is from the video? He should be outed. People should be warned! The internal community is going after animal abusers at the top sports in the US, Canada, and Europe. Why not the cowboys, who I have never thought of as animal lovers after living several years in South Dakota? Yes, yes, not every cowboy is bad, but to them, animals are a job and their money. I have seen horses with broken legs going in a truck to slaughter. I would have liked to have found the people who wanted the money more than letting the horse go peacefully. I have no problem outing them.

There are a lot of men like that training dogs, too. Despicable people.

Does he have some sort of license to train horses and/or other animals? He should have his license removed and banned from ever being around animals! So many precious horses and other animals suffer needlessly at the hands of people like that. We need much stricter laws regarding animal abuse.

​@@kristafloralmost don't.

Yes - about that "special place" - Don't know where I heard this - but there is indigenous lore (not sure which country - which peoples) that you pass by all the animals you have known in your lifetime on your way after this life - Going either up or down - and the animals let you know what they think about you. You cannot stop them from letting you know. I like that notion a lot.

That is so cool. All of the love. All of the beautiful animals. I can’t wait to see them again

The previous owner really had no idea how poorly he was treated at the training barn until I went to look at him. Most horse people don't have the experience or fortitude to stand up to a trainer like that and tell them they are wrong.

@@TheCleverCowgirl That's sad to hear. That trainer took a really nice-looking horse and ruined him. I'm not even a stock horse person but I like how Pete is built. I know it's scary standing up to someone who is in a place of authority, but you are paying them for a service and you should understand what the respected general practices of horsemanship are before investing in your own horse (especially a youngster).

@@TheCleverCowgirlI have always been baffled by the English words “breaking in a horse”! I’m no horse person, but have had such people in my family and there where no talks about breaking the horse will or using any kind of violence or force. It was all about trust and not dominating the animal. I’ve seen my late older sister’s horses visually relax when hearing her car miles away coming their way. That wasn’t a reaction of fear, but of trust and love.

@@Hiznogood I live in England and we say "gentling a horse" to make him tame and used to riding. "Breaking in" is very old fashioned now.

@@Hiznogood I was raised ,and live, in the U.S., and I try to train horses. I don't "break" them. That said, the majority of people I know use the term, "breaking in" in the place of, "training". I've even caught myself using it when I'm with a group of people who use it, and I can't stand it. To me, a broken horse is broken, mentally, physically, and emotionally. Kind of like the little rescue horse I picked up about a month ago. He's started coming up to me in the last two or three days, which is pretty monumental for him. It'll take time (10 to 15 years of bad treatment leaves a bunch of scars), but I've got patience for days with horses. It's the only thing I do have patience for, as a matter of fact!

I saw this all the time! The smartest horses end up at these sales!

@@TheCleverCowgirl OMG horrifying

Honestly it feels like the smarter the animal the smaller of a mistake can ruin everything, and it applies to pretty much all animals.

@@Narangarath yes animals as well as humans get ruined by abuse

@@NarangarathYup. The smarter ones can be more fragile. Whether being more sensitive to the world, or they get more in their head, those very active brains are easier to break.

They call horses they are not able to "train" (=break) dangerous, whilst they are in fact the one who is dangerous. Imagine a horse being so afraid that someone steps up to get on their back that they collapse, not run or buck, but collapse. I cannot get over this.

She should have also told the breeder about that trainer too

pass the word and don't be shy...@@Meals-sh9fs

Any psychopath can call themselves a horse trainer.

@@d.h.fremont3027 My favorite comment. Unfortunately, so true.

Thank God for you?

@@user-ri3rb5mf1d ??? Who are you responding to?

I'm SOOOO confused the original owners put him in the care of a "trainer" being so abusive in that video! I wouldn't walk up to ANY horse and smack them in the front of their face and then yank their halter when they UNDERSTANDABLY pull back alarmed! What. The. Hell. Because of the way horses eyes are set they have a blind spot about a foot in front of their face so smacking them the way that guy was doing is just extremely terrifying to any horse!

Remember the movie "Tombstone" when Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russell) first gets off the train? When the station handler was beating Earp's horse, and HE took the whip from him and started beating HIM with it? Earp says "Hurt's don't it? Now, let go of that stud. Go on about your business..." Kurt in that moment gave him the perfect stare like "How DARE you beat a magnificent animal like that?" I can tell you the reasoning (IF you can call it that) why the previous trainer abused Pete. That trainer was focusing on what he knew. He knew how to get paid quickly was to get through the training process quickly. I daresay he wasn't a patient or even kind man. It takes more courage to be strong and yet, be kind. Strength is easy to demonstrate. Kindness takes more inner strength. Strength of character and integrity.

@@brianm744 money of all evil

@@ambersemona9676 it is the LOVE rr uncontrolled desire for money that is the root of all evil. It's not really even that, it's the uncontrolled desire for POWER over others, in this case over Pete, that is the root of all evil. It's what the previous trainer was taught. That trainer would say "It worked for me with other horses, so it was good enough for Pete."

There are a lot more of them than you know. Anyone can call themselves a trainer. The ones that actually care about the horse are hard to find and get no credibility because they don't dress like a cowboy all the time.

There's nothing professional about that thug for sure ..❤

@@nancyk3615 You are right, but in Colorado there are no requirements for horse trainers, so if someone doesn't know any better, they'll go ahead and let them have their unbroke horse to train. And as we can see, the results can be deadly for the horse.

I take exception to your feminist comment. I've seen women whip horses and men like Mark Rashid teach the kindest, gentlest mastery on horsemanship I've ever seen.

@@madchad2 Talking more about attitude and gentleness without ego. Women ate more nurturing bc they are women . Just the way it is.

@@deborahmartin843No, it's not just the way it is. I'm 70 years old, been around a lot of men and women across the four corners in all types of societies. I've seen nurturing men and brutal women and vice versa, so playing the gender card is pointless. By your words, you live in a reality bubble with very little experience of worldly human kind. The real world out here is very different than you seem to see it.

@@madchad2I would really like to think her comment meant a woman who was kind and patient accomplished what a man who had neither quality couldn’t. Neither gender has a monopoly on good or bad qualities

Trainer is a mean bully

These horses were meant for you.. karma.💯🙏🐎❤️‍🩹🐎👍

This is so moving!! Thank you for sharing your beautiful journey with us!!

Agree!!!

Absolutely!!! He almost ruined that beautiful horse. I say an eye for an eye !

I do hope that the trainer set the seal on his reputation by running down the horse at the sale. He definitely suffered the consequences of his own behaviour. I wonder what the trainer’s childhood was like? Issues are a symptom of a cause with humans as well as horses. I would say that trainer was successful in ruining Pete. He was only unsuccessful in hiding the evidence of his actions with Pete’s death. I am so glad you took a chance on Pete and he has a forever home. I am certain he is an excellent reference on you resume! ❤

He will answer to God!@@leanneadams2549

Agreed!!!

Any animal has flashbacks of horrible abuse. I have a Dachshund that was a rescue and he had one a few weeks ago after 10 years. It's be years since he's had one but this one came out of left field. His eyes told me what was going on and my heart broke. I've never hit him, tied him, made him afraid or done anything to hurt him. He was about a week from being dead when I got him. Broken ribs, no color in his eyes, mouth, or hair. 3 bad diseases, kidneys very damaged and only a third of what he should have weighed. Now he is a beautiful mahogany red with blond overlay, soft around eyes, nose and mouth. His kidneys have made it necessary to watch his output closely and he can't go more than 2 to 3 hours with out peeing. He's very good about not going to potty inside. Little did I know that horrible condition he was in would turn into a gorgeous, sweet, intelligent long haired boy. It took 3 years for us to really bond, but he finally became my pal and protector. I still like to have 5 minutes alone with the beast that hurt him. He was going to take him to be put down the day after Christmas because he was a bad dog. NO, he was sick, hurt, afraid and trying to survive. I thankvGod I have him!

It annoys me to no end! A "cowboys horse" is a pretty common term used to describe a hard to handle horse. Even more annoying, most of the handiest trainers I know are women!

​@@TheCleverCowgirl wouldn't an actual cowboy want an easy to handle horse, since they'd have to spend a fair part of the day riding it while driving cattle or maintaining the ranch, sometimes going up against predatory animals or livestock thieves? The term seems like it should mean the opposite of what it's used for.

@@feuerling yes. Yes they should, actually. People like this think “cowboy” means “will abuse the horse into submission” when in reality true cowboys need the most steady of horse. Also most cowboys are excellent at training horses like this because they know how to train from level zero. They could take a wild horse and train it. So what does that tell you about “trainers” like these? It means they’re literally admitting to the world that they made this horse the equivalent of a wild horse

@@TheCleverCowgirlI don't start my own horses, I use a tiny, little, lady trainer who I trust completely. She is definitely the handiest trainer I have ever known and she has started thousands of horses now in her career. She might weigh a buck five soaking wet. The fall they turn 2.5 years old they go for their first 30 days, then they come home and go back into the pasture with their buddies for the rest of fall and winter and the spring of their 3rd year they go back for another 30 - 60 days and get re-started from the ground up. Growing up we always called horses done this way "double broke". Seems to work really well for everyone I know who does it. After all the horrible things I have seen done to horses by other trainers I need my trainer to live until I'm too old to ride because I will probably never trust anyone else but her to start my horses.

I cried too

I know nothing about horses! But as far as people, she is stellar! What a loving, kind soul.

I doubt my husband will ever allow Pete to go anywhere. He is his favorite!

​@@TheCleverCowgirl😁🥰 Well,bless him, too! 😊 ❤

I have formed some great friendships this way! This breeder is top notch and really cares for her horses. I've even been able to get more horses out of the auction machine and into great homes with contacts I have made through her! Its a win~win!

@@TheCleverCowgirl that is so awesome🌟

One can never go wrong being friendly and making contacts. ❤

All forms of Abuse are Narcissistic Abuse. And unfortunately there are Narcissists who Abuse animals. Dr Ramani explains it so well and she's just launched her new book called "Its Not You". Thankfully there are wonderful people like Clever Cowgirl who help abused horses recover 🐴❤🤗

It'll be extra fun when I start hauling him to actually compete!

Yes, He left for the trainer's unmarked. Unacceptable in my eyes regardless of the horses level of acceptance to training!

Such a trainer would never admit their mistake

Even miss handling that doesn’t rise to the level of “abuse “can’t take cares to undo.

I can relate to you & your horse. I adopted a horse that had been flat out starved & seized from the owner. He too had multiple scars. I could tell some were from being bitten by another horse. He had others though that kind of baffled me. Multiple straight lines on different parts of his body - maybe between 3 to 5 inches +/-. The best guess was - my opinion - he had been hit with a metal or wooden rod making contact on him. He was terrified the first time I saddled him. Anyway, you get the idea.