Thank you for this video! Here are some comments: - The limit of 10 points per Stat is related to the 15 "Free points" solely. So, you could have put 10 points in DEX giving Mr Thorntag a DEX of 42. - STR is still very important as (like you said) it dictates how much you can carry and what weapons you can use. I wanted a dexterous character to be able to be a very good fighter, without being strong. That's why I decided to let DEX govern Combat Skill and then let STR basically govern how much DMG you can do (by gatekeeping weapons and DMG bonus). Forcing my Thief to be strong to be able to fight well felt weird. But, that's all down to taste a guess :) - I realize that the word "heavy" when it comes to armour is unfortunate as it makes you think of the encumbrance. Maybe I should have used 'Tier'. Padded is tier 1, Leather is Tier 2, Chain is Tier 3 and Plate is Tier 4. So, I Wizard could have Tier 2 at most, meaning that Padded (Tier 1) is perfectly fine. I'll clarify this in the FAQ. - You only track one set of durability per armour, so the leather jacket only needs to be ticked of once. - You can find 'Hate' amongst Talents too. Maybe a weird talent, but that's where you'll find it. A final note on the skills of the 'Heroes'. They are noobs. You will be struggling from the beginning. That's intentional. You will have to learn the hard way or die trying. Gaining a DMG bonus isn't really that hard, but its not something a lvl 1 character normally will do. It is possible though. A dwarven warrior priest could potentially have a STR of 70 (45 base + a roll of 10, + 10 free bonus, and then a Relic with +5 STR bonus). When you level up, you can choose to increase your STR or increase your Combat skill, but maxing out both will be hard.

Great coverage as always. I love seeing the league of dungeoneers creator so active in materials covering the game. One of the things I really love about this hobby is just how many creators are invested and passionate about their games, rather than being disconnected marketing suits pumping out products, as is often the case in other hobbies. Thanks for the video.

Thanks again for another terrific video about League of Dungeoneers. How the game seamlessly segues from a overland crawl to a dungeon crawl and do it so logically and sensible makes the game that much more attractive. I especially like the dungeon generation using the board pieces, and associated descriptive cards. Those board pieces are so rich in color, really nice. Look, your explanations are always so crystal clear and enjoyable and your pacing is excellent and easy to follow. Pleasssssssse break your cardinal rule and lets get some gameplay going! If you make a mistake, so what! This game seems fun to watch. We are all behind you and would like to share with you the excitement you generate! Like to add I am waiting for the Mork Borg rule book I ordered. Will read it through and maybe will get Solitary Defilement next. Thanks for another video. Take care.

Fresh eyes can aways spot what we can not in our writing. 🙂 It's real good that he is taking feedback. It's still looking good though so far with the process of character creation. The Dex thing will take time getting used to.

Wonder if it would make sense for combat skill to be based on the higher of strength or dex maybe? Either way really regretting not backing this kickstarter, hopefully the reprint gets enough interest 🤞

Daniel, thanks for doing this video on Runebound! I have this game I believe this edition, in my closet. Your idea of reviewing the exploration type games is also something I'm looking forward too. Can't wait!

This game has a great future!

Looking forward for your following videos. I kinda like that LoD is old-school but still breaks some routines. In Magic Realm the combat is handled a bit different on the first round than later ones. So this made me think (a priori making house rules without playing LoD...thats me) What if the character could use STR instead of DEX on the first engagement, when the character moves adjacent to a new enemy and rolls to hit. I mean this could be seen as a some kind of ”charge” interpretion. And to use STR instead of DEX the character would definitely need at least one square movement towards the target.

if I rolled 1,2,2,2,7 my hero would decide against adventuring and his brother would go instead

New to this game, so Im not sure, but the Warrior skills list said that you get +3HP, which it doesn't appear that you noticed.

i might try house rule that Dwarf uses STR and everyone else uses avg of STR and DEX to calculate CS value. Maybe force the Dwarf to have a minimum of 30 DEX to qualify to use the STR vs DEX to calculate CS home rule.

Hello Daniel! Really enjoying your coverage of LoD so far. I know you have a couple more videos planned on the game, but is there any chance of doing a couple play throughs on the channel?

Does anyone know if backers will get access to a pdf of the rulebook? It would be nice to have an updated pdf so we don't have to flip back and forth between a hardcover and errata.

Top stuff Daniel. Great video, really enjoying watching your stuff, keep it up! 💪 Maybe change Strength to drive combat skills? Would it hurt the game?

First, for Daniel and the League of Dungeoneers! ; )

Agree at first glance it is a shame about the skills being mostly Dex/Wis driven. I think anyone with some experience of D&D character creation will automatically focus on these without much knowledge of how this could effect gameplay later on. Personally I would have aligned skills more evenly, For example: Combat = Str Range = Dex Dodge = Dex Pick Lock = Res Barter = Res Heal = Con Alchemy = Wis Perception = Wis Foraging = Str However this is just my gut feeling without really knowing that much about the overall gameplay, I'd be very happy to be proven wrong later! 😁Looking forward to seeing how this does play out, and getting this on the table myself. Thanks for the great LoD videos so far Daniel.

It really does make more sense that weapon skill is derived from dex rather than strength. Think of it in real world terms. Who would be naturally better in fighting, a very agile person with good manual dexterity or a body builder? And they compensate for this with the class bonuses. Not to mention that you rolled very poorly and then only boosted you highest roll with +3 points when you could have taken +10. So, as a dwarf, you could have put the 7 on Dex and then added 10 points, and another 10 for warrior, making your skill 52. But if you put good points in Strength, you could use bigger weapons with one hand or weapon and shield for maximizing defenses as a tank class. You wanted to be more of an offensive fighter, just go with a 2hand weapon and your str doesn't need to be as high maybe. Myself, as a dwarf, I would be less concerned with combat skill and raise my Con and work on getting it up to get natural armor and combine that with heavier armor when you can afford it to make him really tough and be a meat shield for your party. Let them worry about killing stuff and you defend them.

First of all: Thank you for your video. Very interested in the gameplay video. According to all the runthroughs I have seen so far, I am very irritated about the "Hype". It seems to be very repetitive without the hilarious atmosphere of Brimstone. I understand that LOD ist supposed to be n oldschool game but running through several rooms without anything happening is not oldschool to me, it is boring. And seeing your To Hit chances make me really sceptical about the gameplay. That is good about the Darkest Dungeon board game. You hit most of the time. It is only about critting or not. Feels very satisfying.

Nice video, thanks for the walkthrough. I backed this game and am very excited to get it... But I'm nervous now about the whole Dex dependant combat. I don't picture dwarves as poor fighters, and my friends won't either. I'm afraid that'll really turn them off of the game.

Wonder if they’re gonna reprint this anytime soon? Maybe I just missed it. Would like to purchase this game one day. Looks awesome! Not a fan of dungeon universalis until they get it revised a bunch. From what I’ve seen, it’s too early to but that one yet.

Wow... looks like the game needed a lot more proof reading. The game has an active FB group, would have been easy enough to recruit some proofreaders... your comment about what dwarves are good for resonated with me. I look forward to getting my copy and hopefully won't have to print 50 pages of errata or mark up my beautiful rule book :(

I couldn't find the rulebook available anywhere. As far as I can tell it isn't freely downloadable. I can't help but think if it was made available Michael could have leveraged the entire community to help find and fix the rulebook issues prior to printing.

I will buy the second printing of the game on gamefound. Are these character sheets in A4 paper size? Because I want to scan them.

Hoping that the second edition of this game can rework the skills aspect as I love the overall concept but dont want to be forced down a DEX route.I prefer the stereotypical system which allows me to have strength, intelligence and dexterity based skill options from the outset.

Man. Big oof with this str/dex issue. I mean i get the point of a thief not being able to be a good fighter with no strength. But the flip side is now big strong warriors are wimpy fighters. It really seems like Daniel's suggestion about certain weps using dex stat and other weapons using str stat is the best option. I will most likely make this change with possibly the addition of stat minimum requirements for more powerful items. Warriors being made to suffer because of thieves is bleh. LOL. But I have a biased hatred toward thief classes like it seems the creator has a bias love.

Although I grew up with AD&D, and I'm familiar with the bonus/penalty ranges in games, I dislike them now. I want a game's mechanics to recognize that an eleven is better than a ten, a ten is better than a nine, and so on. I would rather have a system that has a range of +3 to -3. I'm still counting on the overall scope of this game to win out in the end.

I could be wrong on this but I understood the char stat rolling to be like old school D&D, where you don't roll and pick but instead you roll in order. So first roll is STR 2nd is CON etc not rolling all then choosing. It's also worth noting, that I believe DEX and CS are across the board the easiest stat to increase. That said, a note to all, once you create your character the main stats and sub stats will be separate from each other, so increasing DEX will not increase CS after you start the game. A warrior, Barbarian, Warrior Priest and Rogue could add +5 combat skill per level if they feel they need it. Edit: I couldn't find any info on how carrying the shield works. It has a class, does it get added together with weapon, so for example your dwarf is Class3+Class1=Class4. Or is it simply you can 1H class 3 so a Class 3 weapons and Class 3 shield would both be fine?