Hillsborough: anatomy of a disaster

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The Guardian

The Guardian

Күн бұрын

As the jury return their verdict at the inquest into the lethal crush at Hillsborough in 1989, David Conn analyses the evidence with the help of recently released footage from the day, to build a picture of how 96 Liverpool supporters died at the Sheffield stadium, and how it has taken so long for the truth of their story to emerge
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@elliejones5929
@elliejones5929 7 жыл бұрын
The youngest of the 96 deaths was a 10 year old, who was in fact a relative of Steven Gerrard.
@Harisankar-ce2vd
@Harisankar-ce2vd 7 жыл бұрын
john paul was just 8 at that time
@samloveslfc
@samloveslfc 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Paul was 10, it was Stevie who was 8 and Jon Paul Gilhooley was his cousin.
@eneamile4821
@eneamile4821 Жыл бұрын
Respect forever for Liverpool's fans.
@Daveyboy-wr6lz
@Daveyboy-wr6lz 8 жыл бұрын
I've just watched this video and I must say as a liverpool fan who lost an uncle at Hillsborough reading some of the trolls comments is sickening. How dare you claim that boys at the age of 10 were drunk and at fault for dying. I hope somewhere in the near future you become educated, not just on the Hillsborough disaster itself but in life because one day you may feel the pain we felt when our loved ones never came home, whilst I do not wish the feeling on anybody to go on social media and hide behind your phone/laptop/PC or however you access the internet I hope your family sees your comments and disowns you very nasty unintelligent people.
@MarkSmith-er7fe
@MarkSmith-er7fe 4 жыл бұрын
yeah----------what about lfc supporters singing about munich?
@JW-wu4hq
@JW-wu4hq 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkSmith-er7fe I'm a Man Utd fan - ffs have some humanity
@allanwallace7524
@allanwallace7524 4 жыл бұрын
if you knew anybody there I’m sorry to hear about your Losses 😢😢😩😩 please don’t get angry with me even though I wasn’t born until 1998 I am just trying to be a supportive and caring person
@mcfcste99
@mcfcste99 4 жыл бұрын
From a man City fan R.I.P the 96 ⚘😥absolute disgrace how it was covered up
@paigeleigh2554
@paigeleigh2554 3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry for your loss.
@andredudatt
@andredudatt 5 жыл бұрын
This case pretty sums up why I am terrified to be stuck in crowded places, I attended one show back in 2011 with at least 30.000 people and I never forgot the crushing sensation as we were heading in line towards the arena's entrance, and inside there , the shock wave of people trembling to find space to stay on its feet and not fall down while thousands more are coming by our backs.
@chuckc7815
@chuckc7815 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you're right, a terrible feeling of helplessness, I stay away from massive crowds too, because a lot of the time money for ticket sales is more important to organizers than people's safety.
@matthewcody1757
@matthewcody1757 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was in syd for big day out in 2001 and feel lucky to escape with my life the unbearable crush and heat i will never forget .
@thecleaningmaniacmanatandr5987
@thecleaningmaniacmanatandr5987 8 ай бұрын
Satanic ritual, David Duckenfield (match commander) himself confirmed when giving evidence last March that he became a Freemason in 1975 and became 'Worshipful Master' of his local lodge in 1990, a year after the Hillsborough tragedy. Satanic ritual... Source: BBC
@doyoulikebeetroot
@doyoulikebeetroot 5 жыл бұрын
RIP the 96 30 years ago today, Still so vivid.
@simpletownworx
@simpletownworx 5 жыл бұрын
Finally justice for the 96. No thanks to the authorities; but to the relentless and couragous quest for truth engaged by victims families and survivors for literally decades. Nothing can cure their sorrow or recover their loss but I admire and honor their efforts to see those in power take responsibility. Power to you.
@paigeleigh2554
@paigeleigh2554 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to your remarkable City. X
@thecleaningmaniacmanatandr5987
@thecleaningmaniacmanatandr5987 8 ай бұрын
David Duckenfield (match commander) himself confirmed when giving evidence last March that he became a Freemason in 1975 and became 'Worshipful Master' of his local lodge in 1990, a year after the Hillsborough tragedy. Satanic ritual... Source: BBC.
@Dovietail
@Dovietail 6 жыл бұрын
Simple but thorough explanation for those who may not know the story. I wish people understood the extent to which this is not a story about Liverpool fans: It is a story about being able to trust Public Safety officers to keep us safe and to admit when they fail in that duty of care. Otherwise, none of us can ever feel safe in a place of public assembly.
@rm9308
@rm9308 5 жыл бұрын
It's incredible to me that the city would accept that this stadium was simply a known death trap needing to be casually managed by random uninitiated police officers. Why not blow out that tunnel in the early 1980s after the first crush occurred?
@serinadelmar6012
@serinadelmar6012 4 жыл бұрын
R M 💷
@jeebuschabatty4455
@jeebuschabatty4455 6 ай бұрын
Did the police tell people to turn up without tickets?
@troyonplanet
@troyonplanet 5 жыл бұрын
the sad result of a perfect storm - an antiquated stadium with sub-standard entry gates that had been divided up into poorly designed "caged" pens due to past issues with football hooliganism - a police officer highly inexperienced on crowd control in charge on the day - a failure to assess and monitor the numbers of supporters entering the ground - all leading to a terrible tragedy.
@stuartgallosi6928
@stuartgallosi6928 8 жыл бұрын
If 96 police officers died it would be blamed on the fans
@aldunning6118
@aldunning6118 5 жыл бұрын
The survivors, families and friends of the 96 victims have shown nothing but dignity in their long fight for justice. It is a great shame that the government, authorities and the shameful police weren't able to do so. There is only one Liverpool, You'll Never Walk Alone.
@xcutiepie10x
@xcutiepie10x 8 жыл бұрын
JUSTICE AT LAST!!! David conn has fought and fought for the justice of these people he will go down in history!
@user-up9js2xd4h
@user-up9js2xd4h 5 жыл бұрын
you need to be english to see justice here
@taranmanik
@taranmanik 8 жыл бұрын
An excellent well informed report, thank you.
@peterwheeler324
@peterwheeler324 Жыл бұрын
I was nine at the time and had a ticket with my dad in Leppings lane upper. As a supporter of neither teams we turned around three miles from the ground as something felt wrong. Couldn’t believe the scenes u saw when I got home!
@martinworld7214
@martinworld7214 24 күн бұрын
i don't believe you
@garchie1984
@garchie1984 5 жыл бұрын
There are two types of people who tend to comment of these videos: Trolls who have nothing better to do than hate Liverpool fans as a whole. The other type are compassionate, thoughtful and respectful to one of football's worst disasters
@MCFCRuss
@MCFCRuss 5 жыл бұрын
I cant stand em but it was so sad, no one should die at football.. so many lives affected by this.. rivalery and banter one thing but death naaa
@danacruz6222
@danacruz6222 4 жыл бұрын
As an American who doesn't watch football, this tragedy is absolutely heartbreaking. I hadn't heard of it before, but it's unbelievable that the city allowed this stadium to keep the original design that resulted in 1 (2?) previous crush incidents, and I'm also shocked by whoever made the decision to let 2 inexperienced officers be in charge of this game. The police blaming fans of one team for their own deaths, to cover up for police incompetence and negligence, is horrible and inexcusable.
@Iceis_Phoenix
@Iceis_Phoenix 2 жыл бұрын
How could they think it was ok to freely open doors for hundreds of thousands of people than the stadium could " contain" is beyond me. Preventable.
@clarkbilly5670
@clarkbilly5670 2 жыл бұрын
cops knew they were to blame and covered it up !
@martinworld7214
@martinworld7214 24 күн бұрын
hindsight is a wonderful thing on the gate opening . If they had blocked off the entrance to those horrific pens then the gate opening may not have been so devastating .
@matthewcody1757
@matthewcody1757 4 жыл бұрын
I was In the crowd of the big day out in Sydney 2001 and felt what being crushed by thousands of ppl feels like and have troubles now with big crowds . I really thought i was going to die , rip to all the ppl who die in these tragic circumstances.
@snowyconfession
@snowyconfession 5 жыл бұрын
So they were blaming the fans and only 27 years later, the fans who died get their justice. I hope every police officers who had responsibilities in this case but didn't admit their wrongdoings back then, were never be able to feel a sense of peace.
@steffenwennerstrand61
@steffenwennerstrand61 5 жыл бұрын
snowyconfession I am glad we have justice I love the fans and Liverpool my heart goes all out to everyone and all the families who was affected by the tragedy ❤️
@andymurph3394
@andymurph3394 5 жыл бұрын
Pleased remember them today it's there 30 anniversary rest in peace 96
@2DRonaldo
@2DRonaldo 8 жыл бұрын
Boris Johnson wishes his comments about the survivors of Liverpool "Should get over it" could be erased from the memories of People. Shows you that Tories will do anything to save their own skin.
@wonderwoman21super72
@wonderwoman21super72 7 жыл бұрын
bastard my family was i n that and 2 of them died
@thomasjones2415
@thomasjones2415 7 жыл бұрын
Boris Johnson Is A Muppet, U Never Ever Really Get Over Death, Our Fans Were Murdered, By South Yorkshire Police, I Will Never Ever Go 2 Hillsborough, Stadium,
@PatrickMcAsey
@PatrickMcAsey 5 жыл бұрын
How could anyone for a single moment consider a narcissistic incompetent as Johnson to be the leader of anything, let alone a political party, and even Prime Minister? The terrifying thing is that a number of Tories are.
@cteasdale1979
@cteasdale1979 3 ай бұрын
Move on Iam st Helens halfway bweeten Liverpool and Manchester
@cteasdale1979
@cteasdale1979 3 ай бұрын
Belgium football one. To young
@Picnicl
@Picnicl 5 жыл бұрын
Major disasters, when not terrorist, are often due to a recent, relatively untested, change and/or a catastrophic effect due to a gradual failure of a physical support or system as a result of many years of laziness, complacency, greed, or miscalculation or lack of knowledge and/or a complication that places extra stress on the first two matters. For instance, the Kings Cross Fire was really caused by complacency, laziness and/or greed in two respects - that flammable wooden escalators were deemed an acceptable feature, and that not cleaning underneath escalators for many years on end was deemed an acceptable feature. Also that the as yet then undiscovered 'trench effect' had not been discovered. With Hillsborough, the untested change is that someone who hadn't controlled a football match before was in charge and what had worked as well as could in the circumstances before didn't happen - guiding fans to emptier pens. The gradual failure is system related in this case - the potential danger of enclosing fans in high fenced pens, where fans can only escape through a few doors - and this danger had already been seen before at Hillsborough in 1981. Oh - and the ground didn't have a safety certificate. And the complication was that Hillsborough's Leppings Lane end was slow and bottleneck-like when there was a high turnout to process. And these are the matters before the ambulance services response, as much as they were allowed to respond, is taken in to account too.
@evanrules3635
@evanrules3635 5 жыл бұрын
Rip those unfortunate souls
@RC-fw6ws
@RC-fw6ws 11 ай бұрын
I'm a Chelsea fan, basic humanity should rise above football tribalism, this could have happened to any team, and nearly did for Tottenham at Hillsborough. What happened was easily preventable , and I am disgusted by some comments on here
@sodgape
@sodgape 8 жыл бұрын
People saying that the families are low life subhuman scum looking for compo are wrong. I don't know any of the families involved and I can tell you they're wonderful people.
@UraStr
@UraStr 5 жыл бұрын
be responsible for 96 death of 96 people then blame them...what a guy...
@bobbypaluga4346
@bobbypaluga4346 8 жыл бұрын
Lies and incompetence covered up for three decades only made worse by police making up horrible stories about Liverpool fans. Ducked field should be in prisoner for the rest of his life. He is a throughly rotten human being. Other police members and leaders contributing to the deaths and cover ups should also receive prison.
@rm9308
@rm9308 5 жыл бұрын
If he hadn't cooperated you still wouldn't have any answers. He should lose his job and honor and be on a pauper's pension if that's possible.
@nicolaprice4945
@nicolaprice4945 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I also thought he should have been given a briefing from previous experienced officer about the usual procedures at Hillsborough. Not sure why he wasn't. The cover up was awful ! Rip those that died.
@serinadelmar6012
@serinadelmar6012 4 жыл бұрын
Nicola Powell he was actually offered itt by the two main officers of previous years at that ground and refused it out of arrogance. Apparently the police meeting also went on for ages and didn’t even mention crowd safety.
@kimgrant3879
@kimgrant3879 2 жыл бұрын
Still duckenfield not held accountable 2019.
@ouchsp
@ouchsp 5 жыл бұрын
It's truly tragic that so many young people lost their lives. There must be something that can be done to rebuild the entrances to the stadium to better control such enormous crowds. All officers need mandatory training in crowd control. I pray this sort of disaster never EVER happens again in the U.K.!!!
@thyagociprian6447
@thyagociprian6447 2 жыл бұрын
Nor anywhere else in the world amem.
@asleepawake3645
@asleepawake3645 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the complete documentary.
@hazelwalsh3269
@hazelwalsh3269 5 жыл бұрын
Big Mistake appointing DuckenField as Senior Constable! 96 people wouldn’t have died!!
@watermelonineasterhay
@watermelonineasterhay 25 күн бұрын
The usual officer mole was a lot more experienced - Dickenhead is a murderer
@sdlwebsite4012
@sdlwebsite4012 5 жыл бұрын
30 years on. This saddens me deep,y, should never of happened innocent people dying at tne sport we love YNWA from a Ffc fan
@N-GinAndTonicTM
@N-GinAndTonicTM 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a football fan, but... Jesus. That's all I have to say. May the 96 forever be at peace.
@jonjohnson2844
@jonjohnson2844 5 жыл бұрын
Grown man in tears here, absolutely awful
@PaddyMcMe
@PaddyMcMe 8 жыл бұрын
This is separate but what are you supposed to do if you're involved in a crush? Should you go into the fetal position using your legs to protect your chest and thus allowing you to breathe? Something else maybe? It'd be worth knowing.
@somewony
@somewony 8 жыл бұрын
+Paddy Mc What you said is basically correct. Try to keep a small space in front of you open so that you can breathe.
@PaddyMcMe
@PaddyMcMe 2 жыл бұрын
@Arabella Kofi Danka
@Lucky13777
@Lucky13777 Жыл бұрын
it's recommended to get your arms to the head (like in boxing) - it will give required space to breath. Also if you are in wave (not crushed yet) - go with a flow and try to go on the edge of wave. It's really scary. I was on Slipknot show and wanted to be closer to the stage. It was my big mistake. Once show has started, everyone went to the front and I was not able to move on my own. I've got scared and really was afraid to die.
@tixie1895
@tixie1895 2 ай бұрын
I remember watching this on the news as a kid. Awful watching people on the ground, covered in blood, distressed, panicking, desperately climbing 🥺
@craigchalmers6228
@craigchalmers6228 9 ай бұрын
So so glad that the liverpool fans the club and the victims were found innocent of any wrong doing and it was the police that ultimately caused this tragedy because of inexperience and inadequate resources, RIP to the victims and Condolences to the families and liverpool f.c, glad that the 96 got the justice they finally deserved And they are now resting in eternal peace....respect to liverpool from a rangers fan
@atthewhiskey
@atthewhiskey 2 жыл бұрын
Was FA not at fault for not clearly outlining to fans and the police a proper operation? I know the police are in charge of crowd control, but it seems like there was no planning for this. They even said there were crushes here in previous years. The police are rightly to blame, but the FA got lightly.
@clarkbilly5670
@clarkbilly5670 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@mememeester1158
@mememeester1158 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of what happened at Astro world
@harrysmith1070
@harrysmith1070 2 жыл бұрын
What happened there?
@squares748
@squares748 5 жыл бұрын
It’s an utter tragedy. The police behaviour before and after is disgusting but unsurprising. May the 96 never be forgotten.
@jamesblakey7672
@jamesblakey7672 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating!
@shannsimms9072
@shannsimms9072 2 жыл бұрын
I never realized before that the police and guards at festivals and baseball games were deliberately placed to avoid things like this. Never did I realize that this was even possible.
@longestvideoever
@longestvideoever 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr I remember when I was first reading about this, I was like how tf did 96 people die? Dont they all have seats? (US citizen) Then I was introduce to standing areas, in my opinion, super dumb.
@Jessica33077
@Jessica33077 Жыл бұрын
yeah, I work in events, crowd management and risk assessment are paramount, once you lose the crowd you are done.
@MikeCarvin
@MikeCarvin Жыл бұрын
And now in Seoul......
@weskitten
@weskitten 8 жыл бұрын
breathe not breath. A breath is a single intake of air.
@weskitten
@weskitten 8 жыл бұрын
+weskitten are we better spellers here in Oz?
@paruhangrai1090
@paruhangrai1090 5 жыл бұрын
May your soul Rest in peace
@clarkbilly5670
@clarkbilly5670 2 жыл бұрын
cops knew they were to blame and covered it up !
@sylviabendavid
@sylviabendavid Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@shilenprincess6916
@shilenprincess6916 4 жыл бұрын
I will also never understand people pusing in more to get in front. lets not forget that someone, somehow is pushing more and there are people unable to do anything. In short his mistake was that he opened the outer door so more people would go in so they won't get crushed outside, but he also forgot to close the middle indoor and make people go to the side areas, so they all went to the middle one. There was a moment that people were being crushed while people in the back were still pushing to go inwards. You never push, you wait.
@TerryFarrah
@TerryFarrah Жыл бұрын
The people in back don't need to push very hard to cause a crush. I don't exactly understand the mechanics of it, but people in back pushing only a little adds up to massive pressure on the people in front. We all need to be aware of this when we are on the fringes of a crowd!
@PC-lu3zf
@PC-lu3zf 9 ай бұрын
That policeman should been in jail for lying and causing deaths.
@jeebuschabatty4455
@jeebuschabatty4455 6 ай бұрын
The report came to the conclusion it was designed to, to take any blame away from Liverpool fans.
@jonnyrobb3278
@jonnyrobb3278 Жыл бұрын
This will happen on public trains soon.
@Nat6999
@Nat6999 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Sheffield, I have never been so ashamed as after Hillsborough. On the day I had been shopping in town & on the bus home heard there had been trouble on Leppings Lane, I couldn't believe what I saw on the television in the pub, it looked like something after a wartime battle. South Yorkshire Police should have been disbanded, they lied about Orgreave & again at Hillsborough. I'm glad Liverpool got the justice they deserved, someone should have gone to prison, especially David Duckenfield & Margaret Thatcher should have been fired for spreading the lies.
@john45hhh
@john45hhh 5 жыл бұрын
You never walk alone.
@thedukeofswellington1827
@thedukeofswellington1827 Жыл бұрын
Just the way that police departments are organized and in their response to incidents like these show that their sole purpose is ALWAYS to protect themselves before anything else
@kevinburns3275
@kevinburns3275 Жыл бұрын
164 police reports edited by their seniors to hide from blame. How does this country have so many incompetent leaders?
@jakehaymes4438
@jakehaymes4438 9 ай бұрын
Love to all Ynwa
@chip5403
@chip5403 Күн бұрын
why didn’t they cancel when people were already being crushed outside
@deniseburns8554
@deniseburns8554 Ай бұрын
How did this happen
@jaynerichardson3807
@jaynerichardson3807 Жыл бұрын
Heysel that's all I can say.
@bekind4803
@bekind4803 Жыл бұрын
What is it that you are saying? Heysel doesn't explain.
@kellyfinch5257
@kellyfinch5257 10 ай бұрын
oh what a lovely woman you are
@IAMPLEDGE
@IAMPLEDGE 3 ай бұрын
people responsible for that went to jail. So you're something of a nurse Ratched is an apt description of you.
@katewebber1131
@katewebber1131 8 ай бұрын
The real culprit was a stadium not up to scratch.
@deniseburns8554
@deniseburns8554 Ай бұрын
Why did this happen
@gmcxm211
@gmcxm211 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand why people would bunch themselves up like that. I been to many sporting events and people naturally spread themselves out. Blaming the cops was wrong. It was the designed of the stadium. Now I don't know who owns the stadiums in England but this stadium was not built with public safety in mind. It should have been condemn even back then. How come that was never addressed? Just the idea of having the pens is absurd. Hopefully todays stadiums built in England have public safety in mind.
@thomasglover7937
@thomasglover7937 25 күн бұрын
Pens were introduced due to football hooliganism, which was at its peak in the 80s It was the perfect storm of an antiquated stadium with lack of turnstiles, Liverpool fans been given the wrong end, inexperienced senior policemen & metal fences to prevent football violence FYI - the stand still stands today, albeit with seats on the lower tier, not terracing. The fences have gone though
@gmcxm211
@gmcxm211 25 күн бұрын
@@thomasglover7937 Oh yea I understand you have to control the football Hooligans, but the police can't be blamed. They didn't build the stadium, they didn't own the stadium, and they were't responsible for any safety inspections. They were not the ones who made the decision to install the pens. Now I know this was back in the 80's, no doubt there were safety standards back then for public safety.
@CC-zv2nx
@CC-zv2nx 4 жыл бұрын
What about the European court of justice?
@DanielRWomack
@DanielRWomack 5 жыл бұрын
It's horrible that those who should have known better failed to control crowds and funneling them through to areas that were more lightly attended. At the same time, entire crowds of people, knowing they were stomping on their fellow human beings, continued to do so because "well they're saying we can...so I guess it's alright."
@lauravacek4293
@lauravacek4293 Жыл бұрын
No one said it was okay. It was physically impossible to avoid standing on other people. One of the videos has a survivor speak of this -- I think it's Newsnight.
@ELSOCCAR
@ELSOCCAR 25 күн бұрын
And someone still finds a way of chanting such in matches today 😢😢its sickening
@highstimulation2497
@highstimulation2497 Жыл бұрын
26 years for those at fault to admit it? Wish such people weren't so entitled and didn't feel the need to pretend that they are infallible.
@patriciaharte8113
@patriciaharte8113 8 жыл бұрын
This case has such similarities with Bloody Sunday! The British authorities lied and tried to blame the victims instead of the British soldiers, who shot innocent victims. The families are still waiting for prosecutions , I hope the Hillsborough families are not treated the same- but unfortunately I won't hold my breath!
@gwyneth7812
@gwyneth7812 8 жыл бұрын
+Patricia Harte It also has similarities with the sinking of the Lusitania 100 years ago.... Admiralty trying to put blame on the captain, writing the crews statements, only asking those to testify who will say what they want them to say etc. etc.. And desperately anxious families waiting in vain at Liverpool train station for their loved ones to return. I believe that documents re final communications between the captain and the admiralty are still classified 100 years later. I have come to realise that 'CLASS-ified' actually means hiding the crimes of those in power and authority so they can avoid justice.
@neasacoyne2706
@neasacoyne2706 4 жыл бұрын
Patricia Harte And the Ballymurphy Massacre and other events the British Establishment lying and trying to cover up the murder of innocent people. The sad aspect of all of this is the police etc are suppose to protect it citizens not be culpable for their deaths. Thankfully for the Hillsborough families they finally got the truth and justice.J496😢😘
@williambeck1574
@williambeck1574 Жыл бұрын
Everton fc tiocfaidh ar la erin go bragh 🇮🇪💙
@Primeskills13
@Primeskills13 8 күн бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😢
@neptunesdemise
@neptunesdemise 7 ай бұрын
it’s disgusting that 97 people died. 97 innocent people who just wanted to support their team died.
@gamesotic
@gamesotic Жыл бұрын
Travis scott astroworld is this days case
@kharissaencarnacion4285
@kharissaencarnacion4285 Жыл бұрын
Nakakalungkot, pero lht din meron pag kukulang. Hndi mo din pwede isisi sa isa.
@pokerrich9
@pokerrich9 12 күн бұрын
The police like many public sectors play by different rules
@karenmbbaxter
@karenmbbaxter Жыл бұрын
I am not here to blame police or the crowd. I blame who built the stadium with pens like that. The pens didn't just have fencing at the front to stop crowds running onto the pitch but the real blame lies with the person who allowed fences to be built in 3 parts along the goal crowd. Even with a rush of people crowds would have spread of been pushed further around the stadium. That one pen in the center caused the crush because people had nowhere to go.
@JW-wu4hq
@JW-wu4hq 4 жыл бұрын
Your brother goes out and kicks a bloke in the head, he dies. Horrific! a few years later, your little bro/sister gets punched and killed by someone half related to the person who your brother kills. Ridiculous, no? Heysel was horrific, and Liverpool fans convicted, deserved it, but this shouldn't be the pre-requisite to how people view Hillsborough ffs
@Dando_1201
@Dando_1201 3 жыл бұрын
I am a liverpool fan and I agree we were at fault for heysel. Hillsborough however was the police fault
@JW-wu4hq
@JW-wu4hq 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dando_1201 I absolutely agree with you
@tenabruce3548
@tenabruce3548 2 жыл бұрын
Y does people always blame people on drugs or alcohol, to yet be blamed, for something that they caused for not having the right people working there, to keep the people from going through there like they did! For All of u who blamed the druggies and alcoholics, should stop and check out ur selves, and quit putting the blame on everyone but u !!!! RIP people!!!
@clarkbilly5670
@clarkbilly5670 2 жыл бұрын
cops knew they were to blame and covered it up !
@greimalkin
@greimalkin 8 жыл бұрын
does Britain not have a culture of queueing? I'm just asking out of curiosity.
@dirtysoap4791
@dirtysoap4791 8 жыл бұрын
we do. we are usually very good at it
@hanumanguy
@hanumanguy 8 жыл бұрын
+greimalkin The Lepping Lane and and stand held about 10,000 people. Note the word lane, due to the river, the street into that stand is very narrow, so imagine 10,000 people funneling into a narrow lane. The police failed use known techniques of staggering the flow with police horses. Also you have the nervousness of missing the kick off. That's why one police officer said his biggest regret was not delaying the kick off. If they kick off had been delayed the crush probably wouldn't have happened, if the tunnel had been closed, wouldn't have happened. The problem in the tunnel was probably the people at the back had no idea what was happening at the front.
@weskitten
@weskitten 8 жыл бұрын
+Mecha Sloth It appears you have a longstanding 'culture' of CCTV too.
@dirtysoap4791
@dirtysoap4791 8 жыл бұрын
+weskitten hmmm
@danielslack8389
@danielslack8389 5 жыл бұрын
End of the day the police could of prevented the deaths easily .. but on the other hand the supporters didn’t help by turning up without a ticket.. in past years of football people have been sneaking in and because of that they thought they can do it again and again.. it now caused deaths
@Antoniorex
@Antoniorex Жыл бұрын
justice for juventus fans at heysel
@steveef2275
@steveef2275 Жыл бұрын
two wrongs dont make right!
@Antoniorex
@Antoniorex Жыл бұрын
@@steveef2275 liverpool fans killed their own
@barbaracrosland3150
@barbaracrosland3150 Жыл бұрын
Fab. Now so Heysels
@susansucks9472
@susansucks9472 Жыл бұрын
FTP
@richardhillier1593
@richardhillier1593 9 ай бұрын
Poor souls 😢 just typical of the lying police
@cteasdale1979
@cteasdale1979 3 ай бұрын
Move on.
@natsocool.
@natsocool. 13 күн бұрын
move on from Munich then
@jennydunn9014
@jennydunn9014 7 күн бұрын
Move to a subject that has some interest to you ? You’ve only come here because you have no life and you are bitter about being a horrible human being
@2PM.2024
@2PM.2024 5 жыл бұрын
Its sad. very sad, also people made mistakes .. one can offcourse follow the rampage on that small police force responsible for security at the grounds... but one cannot point fingers anywhere else than on the thousands of selfish and mindless hordes of liverpool fans raving in like lemmings into the pens... sickening,
@2PM.2024
@2PM.2024 5 жыл бұрын
But it offcourse have to be said that the handling and disgusting lies to espcape the responsiblity using their possition of power to cover it up and cause even more agony to the victims and families is something that should have been punished by life in the pen. its a tragic combination of a mindless mob in the hands of a mindless security
@owjogaming
@owjogaming 5 жыл бұрын
Espen Knutsen selfish fans? You mean fans who were trying to get into the stands before they missed kickoff for a match they were excited for and paid for ?
@danielledewitt1
@danielledewitt1 4 жыл бұрын
Espen Knutsen It wasn’t the fans fault.
@Ryan-pl7xr
@Ryan-pl7xr Жыл бұрын
Rubbish
@charliecraig2043
@charliecraig2043 8 жыл бұрын
Where the justice for the people who died in Heysel?
@nm7891
@nm7891 8 жыл бұрын
Liverpool was banned from Europe for six years and 14 Liverpool fans were charged with manslaughter, getting 3 years in prison.
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 8 жыл бұрын
Umm people went to jail over Heysal and rightly so. They got justice.
@georgearthur205
@georgearthur205 5 жыл бұрын
The truth about Heysel came out immediately and the guilty fans were rightly denounced and punished. There is a permanent memorial to Heyel at Anfield and a service is held there every year on the anniversary of the disaster. After Hillsborough, the families had to live with the lies and injustice of having their deceased relatives blamed for their own deaths, for 24 years. Only after the largest legal challenge in UK judicial history, did the truth finally come out. Have some respect you pathetic cretin.
@joeexotic5831
@joeexotic5831 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgearthur205 well said sir
@doyoulikebeetroot
@doyoulikebeetroot 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgearthur205 Well done for that comment fella 👏
@shena5995
@shena5995 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem right to try to blame anyone for this tragic human crush.. These thing's can happen when there's huge crowds.
@clarkbilly5670
@clarkbilly5670 2 жыл бұрын
wrong, cops knew they were to blame and covered it up !
@angelflyinghigh1300
@angelflyinghigh1300 5 жыл бұрын
So is it that if the people had listened to the instructions of the police, queued properly and not keep pushing and pushing, they wouldn't have died?
@danielledewitt1
@danielledewitt1 4 жыл бұрын
Lucia Westwood No. stop twisting the truth.
@paulathompson9598
@paulathompson9598 2 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the programme 😡
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 Жыл бұрын
The police instructions and lack thereof are the exact reason why this happened
@anncraft5398
@anncraft5398 2 жыл бұрын
Justice for juve sick of hearing about this rubbish far worse has happened
@kellyfinch5257
@kellyfinch5257 10 ай бұрын
ann how are you ?
@Ryan-pl7xr
@Ryan-pl7xr Жыл бұрын
Worst fans in world
@divvy1400yam600
@divvy1400yam600 8 жыл бұрын
I find this vid. very unconvincing. Far too much hindsight and ' what iffery' based on what became known after the event. The verdict of unlawful killing is perverse IMO At least 2 jurors agreed. Remember the violent behaviour of football supporters at the time. Perhaps you may consider doing a vid on the Heysel tragedy next ?
@qwertyuiop6792
@qwertyuiop6792 8 жыл бұрын
You can find it as unconvincing as you like but neither of us saw all the evidence the jury did and at the end of the day, the jury ruled that the 96 were unlawfully killed. From what was explained in the video, I think the evidence is pretty damning against South Yorkshire Police imo.
@khorgan77
@khorgan77 8 жыл бұрын
Ignorant tosser. JFT96. LFC
@divvy1400yam600
@divvy1400yam600 8 жыл бұрын
+Dan Green As I pointed out the evidence presentend was flavoured with what beacme known after the evnt had transpired. Its much easiar to be 'right' after the event. Also I wouldn't idolise juries so much if I were you. If you have actually served on one you will know why.
@tammyot
@tammyot 8 жыл бұрын
+divvy1400yam600 oh shut up!!! Hindsight came because evidence was finally revealed to prove there was a cover up!
@sugarpuffbutty
@sugarpuffbutty 8 жыл бұрын
+divvy1400yam600 It's not much easier to be right after the event - I mean, you still aren't right, are you? But then, that's probably something you are very used to LOL
@detroittechno6453
@detroittechno6453 5 жыл бұрын
I tried to organise a tribute concert with Tight Fit, Squeeze and Air Supply cover bands. None turned up.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 4 жыл бұрын
DetroitTechno not funny. Not funny at all.
@detroittechno6453
@detroittechno6453 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrkipling2201 It is a spontaneous hilarious gag! Lighten up!
@detroittechno6453
@detroittechno6453 4 жыл бұрын
C'mon....one of my bestest gags!!!!!!
@monzoneo8529
@monzoneo8529 4 жыл бұрын
You are awful
@jimenglish3854
@jimenglish3854 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, come on man. Think about the “joke” you’re making. 96 lives were lost.
@mrsteve6050
@mrsteve6050 8 жыл бұрын
It's fucking sickening how the officer in charge got all the blame. Drunken Liverpool fans are the ones to blame.
@stevet4475
@stevet4475 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Bradshaw , fuckin idiot,
@mrsteve6050
@mrsteve6050 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Tartt ok babe
@sugarpuffbutty
@sugarpuffbutty 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Bradshaw Oh, I'm so hurt by your cruel words, Daniel LOL Get a Life, Moron.
@Mandy-dy7nj
@Mandy-dy7nj 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Bradshaw The police tried really hard to find evidence of this mass of drunken fans but there was none (although they went ahead and said it anyway). I'm not saying that some Liverpool fans weren't drunk, but not enough to have affected the outcome. I'm not saying that some fans tried to get in without tickets but again, not enough to affect the outcome. It was lack of knowledge about crowd dynamics and some poor decision making that is to blame for the Hillsborough disaster. If the crowd had been teetotal and fully paid up ticketwise, once the central pens were full but the tunnel was not closed off, the crush was inevitable. There were two near misses before this. This was not an unknowable fact. That's why the officer in charge got the blame. The evidence tampering and perjury that went on afterwards is of course an equally serious issue.
@elpatudo3670
@elpatudo3670 Ай бұрын
Duckenfield should be in prison!!
@TinkyWiwinky
@TinkyWiwinky 26 күн бұрын
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