Same for suicide and martyrdom

HeadCaptain is that PATD reference?

Yosua Nangin ;)

Your timing is impeccable, I was having a Batman day!

I love this comment.

much better if man use his hand for killing.

At least he’s alive and bones heal 🤷‍♂️

@@mr.j3371 pain teach man a great lesson

hes not dead tho lol

Crippled isn't dead.

Lot of issues...

Yeah and he is the only one eho wears suits

The Dark Knight. Or Batman Begins quote I forget which one

Also guy calle S hope too

YA THINK!!!!!!

😅 And honestly, this is why I'm not a fan. People compare Iron Man to Batman, but I use this to show the massive difference. I don't like reading about a character that I perceive to be so selfish, hypocritical, twisted, and yet encouraged. But hey, just because I can't stomach it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it as a deep and rich character study with some of the most compelling narratives in DC. You do you, Demon Knight. You do you. 👍🏽

Emanuel Rivera I love you, human... for that...❤️

I don't get it. 😅

Emanuel Rivera I know.

@@echo.romeo. i really wanna empathize with you but i just cant, how can a person not love batman lmao

thank you

I see you are a gamer of culture. That is from Arkham City.

just like Scp035 said

@@NovaTrickster it's actually from Batman: The killing joke

@@Shingekinokyojin1234 it's also in one of the Joker's conversations with Hugo Strange in Arkham City.

That's Bruce for you.

Kinda like how Dexter keeps to a strict code. Interesting

@@maximilianraley2457 .......no. Not the same.... in the slightest

@@aaronrachiele5521 How not? I didnt say they were the same. I just stated that they both have a strict code that they stick to. Each for their own reasons. That code drives everything they do, and in that respect I'm am absolutely correct.

@@maximilianraley2457 Ohh, ok. No disrespect or quarrel, and I understand what your saying, but Dexter( great show ) having a moral and personal code, and Batman being determined to stay sane, by such extreme lenghths have nothing to do with each other.

Dude that quote was so badass. I’ve watched crisis on two earth and when Batman said that to owl man I was like fuckin hell you show him

DerpyCat Great quote

Can you explain the quote I’m slow

William Garcia basically joker wasn’t afraid to blink/go blind in the face of darkness while Batman is staring at it keeping his eyes locked in fear of going against what he wants to represent

dragon stare24 I saw that I just didn’t remember batman quoting that

The guy who sleeps with a machete under his bed is a fool every night but one.

@@sen7826 he must be sleeping someplace out of Gotham then

I don't know do you liked to be watched 24/7. Batman doesn't have to stick his nose in everyone's business but yet he does. That's how insane he is.

@@rjtheripper931 he kinda does when you can just wake up one day and killnall of humanity

That's assuming we've seen everything he's planned for

My favourite line from Hush

@@bengough6772Same and I just recently watched Hush too😂😂

Party pooper no cake for you

LEGO batman movie intensifies

Flop Studios 🤨 It’s from under “the red hood”

@@johnchris7278 I know that. The entire plot of the LEGO Batman movie was Joker wanting to be Batman's villain, basically a relationship. I was just referencing that.

Hah, gay

Good, now experience the true nature of the force. Strike your father down and take his place by my side. Palpatine 😄

Ivy could be seem as his dedication for a cause. Catwoman is his connection with a spirit animal.

@@thesquareeyeball8100 Also I think both Killer Croc and Manbat represent Batman's dark( if not monstrous) side and deepest desires. One out of desperation and the other to be free and wild.

Catwoman and ivy=his horniness

@@assshaking no thats just you and your simp nature

Batman sees the world as black and white, either a person can be good or evil and Catwoman brings the grey to his life that sometimes you may be not evil, it's just the situation ( I learnt it from a documentary) & poison ivy is basically lust

Hector Barrera he did.

@@user-kd5th1fo2r Ok, he didn't personally lit him on fire, but he had PLANS to. I get that it's a weakness of his, but did Batman really have nothing else to use?

@@hectorbarrera8046 His failsafe was the Justice League.

@@nurse425 Ok but if He ever went rogue, why wouldnt use it. The man think everything thru

The reason for tower babel is that the first villain the justice league fought was starro a mind controlling starfish from space that took over most of the heroes, or the many times the justice lords or crime syndicate showed up or any other evil versions of the justice league before this. Its not paranoia if the situation has happened before

Or what is viewed as insanity

Genius B A T ________________________________________ M A N Insanity

If i win, I'm a prodigy. If I lose, then I'm insane. That's how history is written. - Artemis Fowl II

not quite.

The Joker isn’t insane. I think he is super-sane: the sanest character in DC. I think Batman is insane. None of them are sane. They are true opposites: super-sane and insane.

Akoya London nah stephanie was NEVER important to begin with cause shes a WOMAN.

@@shikigranbell7608 Lmao.

She was part time robin

@@shikigranbell7608 ok or you can say she was not experience or ready to be a hero not because of her gender

@@shikigranbell7608 no, it's because she is from a what if story, and by the time she was added to the main story, damien was already a thing so they made her Spoiler

Why

Dragon empress the JL are basically the strongest group of people on earth. Being able to deal with them if they flip had to be done by someone.

@@dragonempress8367 heard of injustice

Same I think the contigency plans are perfectly sane to prepare

That's true, but it was very selfish and paranoid of him to keep it to himself. Why should he be the only one that knows all this? Is he really so certain that *he* won't snap or get mind-controlled?

Actually that was hacked they voted for him to live but good point any way

What's creepier is that they bitched about it afterwards.

Master Vampire the guy above you just said it was hacked, of course they’d be pissed

@@lunaco3971 not hacked, sorta, some guy made an algorithm so it kept calling the number to decide and since he hated Jason he wanted him to die

@@Ok-eg8dg and then one other guy did the same to bring him back

Dont forget brain damage and internal bleeding

When has he ever shattered someone’s spine? I’m just asking

Gordon's word from arkham origins.

That doesn't count as insane.

@@lexlex44 yep he's just feel vengeful everyday

Deon Chawaguta probably.

correct

DUH

I have a dog, but he just tells me to give him food and take him out. Also, he doesn't speak English or Japanese.

Cersei?

Lol to

Gaming Galaxies better than dressing like woman.

It's actually funny, that Batman - is the only sane one amongst JL; his spandex at LEAST gives him a tactical advantage in the dark )

It's funny on two levels.

I know this is a dialogue line of a thug in Arkham Knight game, but if Batman is insane because of that then all other super heroes are too.

That's exactly how it was in Titans. Once Jason died, Dick finds a whole file in the Batcomputer of "potential Robin recruits", including Stephanie Brown and Carrie Kelly. That really threw me for a loop there. Bruce would NEVER consider another Robin if one died.

​​@@jackcrofts-mullin461nd that's one of the many reasons people don't want to watch Titans.

thank you, dudes just nit picked tbh

But why is Batman listening to a 12 yo? I mean sure, Dick and Jason were risking to go down a really bad path in life but Tim? Come on.

But why is Batman listening to a 12 yo? I mean sure, Dick and Jason were risking to go down a really bad path in life but Tim? Come on.

Not death

@@kaibaboy3374 Most of the time it kills.

@@TheWillieA No its temporary

@@kaibaboy3374 When in the game is it temporary? You die in the toxin? why wouldn't they?

@@TheWillieA Becouse there was a scene where they were able to return them to normal.

To be fair,he was given the Joker's version of a moral compass.

Superman once said: "The day Batman goes rogue....God help us all"....

@@DoubleBoost23 He was first subjected to severe mental trauma and his parents death was recreated over and over heroes and villians were killed, and gotham burned. The toxin infecting him was the last part of that. The prime universe batman was able to fight it for a week but that is only because he wasn't subjected to the same trauma the Batman who laughs ways.

He went insane because of the joker toxin within the Jokers body being released upon the Jokers death. I personally would've like it if batman went insane because he killed him and not the joker toxin.

Being crazy is a separation from reality. If you are insane insanity seems normal. Batman is actually a sociopath.

True, His only real code is don't kill......on purpose

Well he does torture a lot that's no secret

He has like 3 rules in the comics. *Doesn’t kill** *Doesn’t threaten or hurt family’s* Not sure about the 3rd one, eh.

The killing joke is not an anime.

There is such thing as parallel universes.

@ The idea of having Contigency is so they don't know. I mean if Supes knows he can gear up so Kryptonite doesn't work on him.

@ Yeah lol

Yeah but being one of the so called smartest people on the planet, he couldn't keep those plans more secure?

@@liltaco4119 It’s funny cause I’m the animated movie adaptation, Green Lantern was the only one to see clearly. “I have no problem with Batman’s contingencies, but letting someone steal them was pretty damn dumb”

@@jackcrofts-mullin461 exactly. they even acknowledge it lmao

Agreed. Quite honestly I only know that story because of this video. But as smart as superman is I would have expected him to understand why Batman did that. The only reason they are mad is because one single human being, a species the other heroes consider helpless, has found a way to take down every single one of them. That probably hits a nerve with them.

@@maximilianraley2457 Exactly, the people who argue against Batman usually assume that the rest of the Justice League are saints who can do no wrong. That's not true. They are just as corruptible as any human... Maybe even more so considering that some of them have never experienced a true failure unlike most average people. Who's to say what their mental condition would be like after a major dilemma?The Justice League is more powerful than every single government in the world...combined. Batman is pretty much the only "normal" human in the league and as such he should definitely act in humanity's best interests. A plan absolutely has to be put in place even if the worst never comes to pass.

That is exactly what Green Lantern said in the Doom movie.

He's not saying it was stupid of Batman to make those plans. What he means is that it was wrong to make them from a moral standpoint. There's a difference between morality and objectivity, to Batman the ends justified the means. The JL as PEOPLE who trusted and saw him as their friend for years have every right to be mad at him for this, especially when it oh so spectacularly backfired on him. Honestly, my main gripe with it is the piss poor security he put around it, Batman of all people should've been able to make better defences than that. You'd think that he would keep the plans to take down some of the world's most powerful heroes more secure. Let's not forget the possibility of him going rogue/ mind controlled/ snapping where his only solution was to take someboby he cares about hostage, which wouldn't work if he went crazy since they'd be the one he kills first( Batman who laughs).

@@justsomeguywhomayormaynoth7441 It would have been wrong for him to not make those plans, from a moral standpoint. These are super powerful beings and mind control, magic, possession, personality swappers, etc all exist in their world. To not have plans to put them down when it's needed, would be not only stupidly naive but also potentially deadly to millions. Refusing to plan for response to disasters is negligent and immoral. Every member of the Justice League should have their own plans to take care of the others.

Justin McNeil still not enough comments tho

Bark yelp.. Yes, this *is* should.

Justin McNeil I

Justin McNeil I

Lol

By that logic Eating everyday showering everyday walking everyday is also insanity.

Each robin was a completely different person and he does not kill what else would he do with them and by that logic your saying police are insane by just doing their job every day

@@kaibaboy3374 Not really, we're not expecting different results but the same results, which is a happy and healthy mind and body, if you're expecting to have an exciting life doing the same 9-5 over and over then yeah that's insane, but expecting it to never change but still be okay with it isn't insanity. The full Einstein quote is "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again... but expecting different results"

@@RobotguyHsss what makes it insane is that he just beats people up, throws them in Arkham and to change when he knows they won’t, he’s doing something over and over expecting a different result but keeps getting the same one

@@straightface8564 he doesn't EXPECT them to change he just hopes they do. One of the reasons batman doesn't kill is because he believes that there are other ways to deal with people, to change them instead of getting rid of them which to me makes sense. And the criminals he catches are almost always mentally ill ( joker harley quinn ect.) So he doesn't really have another choice, he can't kill them but he can't just let them go free aswell.

Isn't that you

Well said.

nah it’s not he doesn’t upload enough but i’m ok with that because quality over quantity

He would if he made more videos

OOOOOO (nearly) HALFWAY THERE

Pinchol.....you obviously never saw Batman V Superman, or the 1989 Batman or Batman returns. All of which you can easily look up his kills on youtube 👉🙂👉

Dceu, original Bob kane comics and hell even dark knight returns/strikes again /master race & 89. However even then he's not frank castle he's more than that due to his symbology and no one knowing he's Bruce Wayne.

I can imagine him going batshit crazy like Batfleck once something horrible happens. Simply losing his faith in humanity - he believes that everyone can be redeemed, or has a chance for redemption, but that could easily change.

Pinchol my dude he literally crushes a guys head in with the wheel on his batmobile😂 look up bvs kill count and you'll see

Pinchol batman in BvS even kills the people he fights when he was saving Martha. He throws a crate into a man's head and it shows it splatter on the wall. He kills the white Russian guy when he shoots his gas tank on the flame thrower. killed two guys with a grenade. throws a guy through a wall and stabs the last guy onto a wall. car chase. there is no way the people in the car he dragged around survived getting thrown around at high speeds multiple times. then crushes another car with people in it. an SUV roof comes off and a guy with a turret shoots at batman. batman shoots him dead and the car explodes obviously killing the driver. one of the guys in the trailer on the semi with the kryptonite gets crushed by the batmobile and thrown out of it. I barely started and he has already killed more than 10 people. did you not see the ultimate edition?

What

Batmam white knight

*In the voices of Adam West and Burt Ward* Batman: "Hold on Joker. I'll hit you with my Bat-Sanity Spray." Robin: "Did you have that this whole time?!"

@@masterofmythology the bat sanity spray could beat any of his villains

Because the Joker is not insane... ... but super-sane.

And his crime fighting. Every night he stops criminals, takes them to jail/arkham, and expects them to stay there.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. Science is writing it down.

So Einstein was insane. Thanks for confirming

I think it is insanity is doing something the same way over and over and expecting different results not same results

@@mrj4082 There's only one way to walk down the street, and the mob doesn't care which way you go.

Robert Meulemans I figured that when I was 10. His being boarder line is why I like him too

Punisher is insane batman not

@@batmantheknight7862 The Punisher is sane. Not insane.

@@2elss nope

☠️☠️☠️ ..... *Exactly.*

Alot of crazy shit happened after civil war and house of M.

WOW. That opened a door for my Hamlet essay.

The Marine708 yes but is there a SANTA CLAUS?

Crazy as fuck but yeah

Read it backwords

My GOD SO IMPACTFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is now my favorite quote and my background.

*opens* *door* *for* *you* BYE BYE!!!

Robo Chop Don't be batty, the joy of a pun is in the _oi_ of beholder.... 🐸

Good

Can't belive how little likes this comment got no one even batted an eye....too late?

You could always say Bruce is... Bats hit crazy.

The guy recruits 12 year olds to fight mentally ill serial killers. WTF

Rorschach is actually the Watchmen universe version of The Question, not Batman

@@abiolaalade7970 stfu and read a comic , lmao

Yes, but the difference is...Rorshach is HONEST. He doesn't hide the blood on his hand with gloves and utility belts.

@@migcas6592 bruh, Batman does exactly that he recruits kids that are still in puberty

And the batman who laughs Embraced his joker...

Same here, every time.

PimpkinPecan I found

PimpkinPecan yeah he put a lot of effort in these

Yeah. He knows if time comes he would have to resort to killing and that would make him the thing he don't want to. He wants to make a world (or at least a city) where no one wants to kill other person, and to begin that he have to be one of them.

Well, technically, his battarangs can easily slit somebody's throat.

hmm that would be correct come to think of it. Maybe he thinks guns are too quick and easy to access and put someone on a tshirt so he risks the knives??? not sure on that i remember reading the gun thing i mentioned in my main comment from a comic book.@@Eternally_Listless

TheBladedUnicorn obviously 😂

oh hell na

I mean the guy dresses like a bat...

Radin V so? Every other dc hero wears a costume lol

Well, the first Robin and Batgirl needed Batman for a time, but eventually, they became independent and left his tutelage.

I reckon having plans to stop the most powerful ppl around if they happen to go mad is not a bad thing. Hes a broken man. You told it yourself

He helped Dick to grow from his trauma and he turned out fine, He helped jason, till the joker killed him, and Superman gave batman the kryptonite. And he needed to help them for his own trauma of being helpless. But he is not the sanest person. He needs to fight criminals to function. And calls himself batman in his mind.

But he did tell them....in the New 52 Reboot he told them everything.

one thing I find hilarious about his plan for himself, it lists that one good way to get under his skin is mentioning his parents, aka MARTHA!

That's what I was thinking. He needs these plans jus as precautions.

Batman is the security officer, his job is to make sure there is a contingency for every situation, whether its an alien invasion, multidimensional threats, gods, demons, or rogue/alternate leaguers, in fact him being "part time" actually facilitates that role as he is outside of the influence of whatever might affect the league as a whole and observe critically from theboutside

Mr Pants by this i think he ment just telling them: dont worry if jla ever goes bad i have a plan. But not tell exactly what

thagumaster1 yup

It's not tyrannical at all. It would be tyrannical to assume on your own that you know for certain if someone deserves to die or not. He doesn't take that decision into his hands. Tyranny is implicitly rooted in control. Batman does not take that control over someone elses life, therefore he cannot be tyrannical with power he doesn't have. Deciding that someone else has the right to live isn't tyrannical, it's common human decency. This is what Batman believes in. Deciding that someone else has to die isn't common human decency, it's tyrannical (without a reason). This is why Batman never takes it into his own hands.

@@inwit594 It is tyrannical with and without reasons.

That’s one of the reasons he doesn’t kill: it’d be tyrannical to decide who deserves to live and die (for example Joker obviously does, but what about Mr Freeze, and Catwoman, and some versions of Harley Quinn) Plus there’s the whole trauma from watching his parents get shot in front of him when he was a child. And the fact that because of this, if Batman were to kill the joker, the odds are he wouldn’t know when to stop. He’d keep killing and killing unable to control himself.

Yea, this video is playing from a really idealistic bent with the idea that countermeasures aren't a good idea to have in a world full of mind controllers and parallel dimension evil dopplegangers.

Yeah, I agree that those countermeasures were absolutely necessary, but still, a normal person doesn't calculate the things told to him by friends in moments of trust and figure out ways to kill or incapacitate them. His plan for Martian Manhunter is literally to burn him to death. Necessary though it may be, can you think about how hard it would be for you to conceive of doing something like to someone you cared about and respected? Accepting that his measures are reasonable and necessary, just think about the kind of person you have to be to envision ways to kill and maim your friends. The part that really struck me was his plan for Kyle. Kyle is ultimately a regular human with an incredibly powerful piece of technology. Not a real metahuman, not an alien or an amazon, but a person who can take his ring on and off, and his powers along with it. As smart as keeping countermeasures is, someone who hears a friend tell them that losing their sight would make them less of themselves and then go and think "yeah, that's a good center for a contingency plan against them" is not entirely healthy and socially well-adjusted.

As we've seen from a fair few of the DC franchise's materials, it is entirely possible for each of the big name supers to go bad in some way or another. Or otherwise be made into a person that does NOT do the good/right thing. And as the Joker points out a few times, people are just one sufficiently bad day away from just losing their grasp on the commonly held right and wrong and developing their own blue and orange morality. So yeah, Batman is completely justified in the grand scheme of things. He NEEDED to collect that information so that the Justice League, which in and of itself was a few bad choices or a few bad days away from going bad, could be stopped. This likely would NEED to include himself. Plus, as we know, he did have some nonlethal contingencies that he would PREFER to enact if at all possible BEFORE moving on to the lethal stuff. It may be natural to pause and be all "Wait... You planned to kill me this way?! OR that way?!" but two layers of context missing there: Bats doesn't kill if he can help it and just 'cause they go bad doesn't mean they necessarily STAY bad. Meaning there is a chance to save them and be the biggest of the big damn heroes for managing to do so. And as the Imaginary Axis himself points out from the canon, Bats' shit got hacked. So it's not Batman's fault that the League went down so much as the bad guys' fault for enacting the plans and removing those plans from the context of "If these guys stray from common morality, do these things." Yes, he did come up with the plans but CONTEXT. That's important and SOMEONE had to. Even if they didn't like it or want to. Even Superman would agree that if they stop doing good or cross specific lines, they need to be stopped.

Sadly, no, its not that hard to conceive. We do it every day. Especially as parents, I check the doors, I make sure my weapons are safe, ready to use and put in places with easy access if you are allowed to use them. I'm retired military as well, so that may impact my world view, but at the same time, it also gives me more insight into the real dirty nature of mankind. Trust is something earned and maintained. I don't even give out keys to my house to family that doesn't live with me. Call it paranoid, I call it common sense. Thats excluding world altering power and civilization destroying capabilities.

Axis seem to have invented an ideal situation for himself in the babel-scenario that should go something like this: - I am a sucker for lollypops, they pretty much depower me completely. - Great then I'll give you one and beat the shit out of you if you ever turn evil. - WOAH I Thought we were just having a conversation as friends here! - Oh, ok. I guess I'll find some other way to bypass your immortality, superspeed and world-busting powers then. Anyone who can place themselves in the situation Batman was in would have done the same as he did if they were just a tiny bit smart. The part where he fucked up was the accessability of his plans, revealing them or even their existance would have taken out his edge.

Hello, Jason.

"You don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps." - The Killing Joke

commas

Batman arkham knight boi

I'm pretty sure he knows that he'll escape, he isn't insane, but there's nothing he can do, if he were to kill the joker, batman would die

@@mushedups5404 and Gotham would be forever safe but he wants to live as Batman not as His mask Bruce so does he really care for Gotham?

@@danielcesar664 yes. If Batman kills he may become the Batman who laughs

Cute quite, but out of context it is a joke

There actually is a recent storyline out there called Batman: White Knight, that follows this EXACT setup. Joker goes sane (again) and plans to beat Batman from the inside by exploiting the absurdity of his crusade, portraying Batman as the true criminal through his demeanor, tactics and interactions with criminals. Check it out.

Well, there is Jester and Owlman

if you play arkham origins and arkham city you get some character switching between the two :) they are videogames, xbox360

I second the white knight but batman isn't exactly breaking his code it's more like joker turns sane and exposes batman as insane

Lol april fools

Eddy The Martian They have. Read Batman: Arkham Asylum - A Serious House On Serious Earth or Batman: The Killing Joke, those talk about it. Hell, even in Watchmen, Rorschach is supposed to be Batman if he were in the real world.

Wesley Wiggins he even got the quote in the beginning from a serious house on serious earth

Would go nicely together with the theory of the "super-sane" Joker.

White Void OH HELL YEAH!!!

Eddy The Martian If you've ever read the comics you'll know they've explored this MANY times. Its a big part of his character.

142doddy It pretty much is. Yea they say its not for certain and could be a lie told by the joker. And it may not even be a cannon story, but every time a movie or show uses an origin for him the use the killing joke. Its safe to say that its his origin.

I said definitive. He's had several other origins in the comics.

142doddy My favorite is Lovers and Madmen

142doddy it's definitely not definitive but it's the most common so people just use that

two things are definitive, being the red hood and being accidently pushed into a vat of chemicals or falling into one while trying to run away.

That doesn't mean he is nuts

@@lexlex44 Literally google "what psychological disorders does batman have"

Unfortunately, the bat man who laughs knew his own contingencies and destroy them. Batman if he’s as smart as he is should’ve created contingencies that he himself doesn’t know (ie hiring someone, random plans, memory erasing, idk)

IPlayVideoGames [GD] another fanboy denying the truth, don't get me wrong i love batman since i was a little kid but in handsight this is actually true that he might be insane in some capacity

Gustavo A Flores L troll? Or real? You know he joking right?

wtfm3751 you never know on the internet :s

dude here is too obvius he was doing "I am batman" joke -_-

While I agree it was fairly obviously a joke, the problem is that it's exactly the answer you'd imagine a Batman fanboy would give. You know the sort I'm talking about, the ones who think Batman would find a way to beat everyone in the omniverse regardless of whether they have an exploitable weakness or not for no reason other than that "He's Batman".

It's Smash Time by what he says in the stories of him dealing with it he very well is aware and actively holds himself back everytime. I think it makes him more... "human" in that even the caped crusader is just a mentally damaged man who yearns for his parents.

Hmm thats cool but when it comes to comic books characters idk if its better to trust a comic book nerd who studies a bit of psychology for youtube vids or a psychologist who studies a bit of comic books. Subject matter expert vs issue at hand expert. Hmm

@@UncleForHire I see it as Batman is so complex in his character that we can have different and opinions views on his psyche. Hell almost every version of Batman has a different a psyche.

People confuse “insane” with “abnormal”.

Yeah this is what I don't get from Imaginary Axis, it's been proven tried and true that if his friends turned evil, the world is literally doomed.

Yeah, but he should be smart enough to write that shit down on paper...Nobody can hack into that.not even Brainiac

Batman in injustice is right? Right? Siding with harley who nuked metropolis and killed lois?

So they are all crazy… Oh, thats good news.

Aah.. this is 2020

Funny he once killed alot in the early comics same with he once used guns commonly it was only when another editor-in-Chief came along and didn't like Batman killing a monster with guns that his using guns and killing fact was axed afterwards, yet Robin still had a kill count for abit going even after Batman stopped the killing and gun usage. So it was more like the Editor didn't want Batman killing but let Robin have a kill count keep going is rather odd to pull if what you say was the main reason back then . So the thing is that aspesct only really was a fact after Batman became even more well known that it was a fact the writers and such write him like that

Win-Win

Lloyd Landrum, you do know that's back when racism and such was still showed in cartoons and comics right? But no, let's point our fingers at Batman and Robin for killing people because that was the main problem with our cartoons and comics, killing, how offensive.

Your theory would make sense for the movies only; kids these days don't read comics.

Austin Bosh oh boo hoo

Glad that worked out!

Which comic is that please tell me ????

Yeah but I'm sure that's not canon there's literally a shit ton of what if stories

@@leonfontius5300 Earth 51 batman. Count down to infinte crisis I believe.

@@Noname-ut1ye Thanks

And continue to do so, he hadn't stopped.

he just got clever at making them kill each other, and getting allies to do the killing.

Bob Kane's Batman used guns until Robin was introduced.

Joseph Bedwell This is true

I never got why they decided to make that a thing. It's like he's saying I'm not going to do something immoral like kill a murderer while he's murdering...I'll leave that to the cops...with guns. I'll just play with him using my toys and give him a chance to kill as many people as possible until a cop can figure out how to put a bullet in him

Or just plain batty!

Vision City wow

Vision City wow...that could actually work

Thats theory is beautiful

Supersanity isn't a thing. It's a really stupid joke of an explanation for the Joker

Nope sorry it still could be used to justify the joker not batman

Nathan. And I really hate how people like you think it's all about Batman. Well it's not. It's about saving the innocent.

I just don't see Batman as a judge or an executioner, i see Batman as a differently dressed cop who doesn't go through the paperwork. Remember after Batman brings people in he doesn't have any say so about what happens to them, they could just give them the death sentence but they keep putting them in Arkham. It's not Batman's fault they keep getting put in Arkham or how they keep escaping, he just returns them to the police, what the city of Gotham does with them is out of his hands. Commissioner Gordon doesn't have a no killing rule and i bet he has been in a couple situations where he could have shot the joker and been over with it, so whats his excuse?

Nathan. Well what's the point in being a vigilante if you're going to follow the rules? See, there's so many contradictions surrounding Batman.

Batman bends the rules, but does not break them, not to mention he works with the police and in his spare time with a group of god-like to help them protect the planet, at this point I would not even clasify him as a vigilante anymore.

nathan gillespie Gordon did actually shot the joker in the Endgame story line, but the Joker had in himself at that time dionisiom, some sort of liquid metal that had healing properties, so yeah....

Crazy Nerd get out of here with you and your bat-shit crazy ass jokes.

You two are bats

Vet out

No... no... stay... I wanna show you something...

well said

Bruh

Yeah but what if he tell all of the plans to all of the members

Jack Edmunds Wonder Woman: It's not always about you BRUCE !!!!

lmao

You mean: Batman: I'm batman na na na

Batman: Im not crazy your crazy! Especially you Joker!! Ghost Joker: Ayeee