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Explore conversion of Sikhs to Christianity and silence of SGPC and khalistanis on it

Sikhs are devout to their faith not their institutions. SGPC has failed the community and has done nothing about rampant conversions. Instead, SGPC choses to legitimize Bhindrawale. Misplaced priorities abandoned the community.

I really appreciate the fact that the British and Nehru didn't establish an SGPC-like organization for Hindus. Decentralization is the only reason, Hinduism is now progressing. Caste as an identity might remain but the negatives aspects like discrimination are likely to dissipate over the next few decades. Economics+Migration+Urbanization+inter caste marriages have really blurred the caste lines.

This is a very good thing that alkali are weakening which means radical characters like amritpal will find no purchase

Can we sponsor Chitleen to go to Canada and investigate the SGPC and Khalistan nexus? It will make the Print stand out.

it not only takes a deep sense of knowledge, but a kind of attachment towards the topics you speak on, that distinguishes you from the other journalists. And that is precisely what brings me to listen to your podcasts. My immense respect to you Mr. Gupta. As a Sikh, It saddens me to see the kind of politics that is the SGPC. Sikhism, to me is a way of life, the gurdwara a beacon to my faith. What a royal mess this group has made of it.

Thank you for this episode As a Punjabi it was an eye opener for me

Corruption in SGPC 😢😢 and radicalization 😢

Sikhs have problem with BJP. But BJP is the only party which talks about illegal conversion in Punjab. Which celebrated birthday of giri govind singh in patna in grand way. Which celebrated nanak jayanti all around the world. Just irrational hate for a party. But they vote for a party which did 1984 😐

Shekhar the camera quality is great...video looks like having high production value

Kejriwal is doing same as Sonia with Punjab. Like bringing Punjab into national politics for their political gains and driving Punjab youth for their political campaigns and protests. Common Punjab people should awake and reject these political parties. With this chaos no investor is going to invest and it will increase unemployment and force people to migrate for jobs. State has most hard working people, if you drive them for development agenda there will be miracles in the state.

Unity holds immense power for a Nation. When people come together despite differences, they achieve great feats, foster resilience, and create a sense of belonging and collective strength.

Thanks for this episode, SG!! Learnt a few things I was not aware of, even after spending two years in Punjab!! Grateful!!

You picked up an interesting topic indeed and gave so much clarity in just 19 minutes.. thanks …

Thank you for your insight! Really important

Thank you Shekhersaab for the video.

I don't think the faith of Sikhs have decline instead they are fed up by religious politics either by sgpc or SAD. I have many sikh friends and we regularly visit gurudwara.

Very informative and educative episode on SGPC.. I never knew this in-depth division

Great Topic to discuss. Thanks for your efforts.

Fantastic episode as usual!

Nicely done Guptaji. One more potential reason, the perception that SGPC has been a Badal private limited, esp since 1997

Brilliant analysis.

It's good news for Punjab.. Sikhs are breaking the chains of religion and politics

In our villages all youths Sikh have shaved, this includes people who are above 50 also, blue turbaned akalis are renowned thugs interested in property dealing ,drug & arms smuggling

DAO wins nothing else. learn from Hindus. Christianity particularly church based and its attendance has declined sharply in western countries. Once Modernisation comes to Islamic countries same will follow. DAO wins (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). Thats why Hinduism will win. Have multiple strands, multiple gurus, no 1 entity to control. Each guru is authority onto himself. Yes there will be decline and change in purity of pratices and the best will emerge but ur overall faith will win

A very great topic to cover, there is definitely a great church within the larger Sikh society and tbh this was expected since very long.

The reality is that Guru Nanak's religion was universal and expansive - Hindus and Muslims flocked to it. Modern identity politics has inversed that path, with purity to identity being held as critical and universal appeal of the faith being considered less so.

Excellent analysis. Good developments in Sikh society which augur well for ordinary people of Punjab, not necessarily devout Sikhs.

hi shekhar , very informative episode about sikh religion , thank you for your efforts. greetings !!

Thank you sir ❤

IT feels like a personal loss what are sikhs doing ?

Very informative program.

Great Episode

Enlightening!

I have been thinking about this for some time. What blunder BJP would have committed to not attract Sikh community towards them but rather repel. Now this cut the clutter episode clears some part of my wonderment. The other part that is unclear is- what factors motivated Akali dal and the BJP to take such a short sighted decision to exclude large sections of Sikh community from voting in the SGPC in the late 90s

Well researched

And sekhar Gupta says Muslims are not growing .this is a bogus propaganda......and he contradicts his own argument

put pictures on full screen

Punjab is indeed a complex State; when every States have their own complexcity. ✍️✍️🙏🙏

The world is staring at an imminent population collapse. We get embroiled in the daily partisan politics that we often miss the big ticket changes. The politics for which we fight tooth and nail may hardly matter in times to come, as humanity will itself face an existential crisis.

SEKHAR SIR , HOW CAN YOU EXCLUDE THE NAME OF FAMOUS CRICKETER YUVRAAJ SINGH ?

General studies is about learning issues that are not in issue but can become issue and are issue

This situation could be reason of disenchantment amongst all religions across India Socially lot built up and people around should be commissioned to draw masses for real cause

SGPC is an anti-Hindu, anti-India organization managed by a family run political party called Akali Dal. To confirm my claims, look at the books published by SGPC and their demands in general.

I think, as a nation we are going backwards in religious thinking and beliefs. Our scientific temperament is not increasing and actually it is decreasing. May be it is more visible bcz of social media but we are not progressing cerebrally.

Thanks!

Please focus on south politics and issues with equal (or atleast 50%) interest

Very unusual yet very relevant top ic..noteworthy trend

Taklu haivaan talks so sweetly and with honour for everyone but Hindu Pagan Mushriqs, their libraries (Taklu loves Single Book BTW) & their even semblance of Unity. Taklu is truly a person of BOOK (Strictly Singular)

First i would like to appreciate Shekhar Gupta and his team for fact based reporting on issue of Punjab and likewise appreciation for those who have put their thoughts in comment section. In these days, comment sections are full of abuses and cut- paste messgaes except of the print. Many have criticised SGPC for not defending Sikh religion and being indifferent to religious conversion and validate Bhindrwale as a Saint. Though they are right in their assertion however problem is far more complex and nunaced. 1. First, we should not forget that SGPC is controlled by a political party i.e. Akali Dal and like every other political party, their prime goal is survival and getting into power. So if there is overwhelming concern regarding conversion in sikh community they would be forced to react on it willingly or unwillingly. However in Punjab , there is no real apprehension regarding conversion to christianity in Sikh community. 2. What is the reason behind having no concern for conversion in sikh comminity? To explain it, we have to delve into caste equation of sikh community in Punjab. Jatt sikhs are at least half of population of Sikhs in Punjab and their dominance may be felt everwhere in Punjab. Traditionally , they were land owner and filled ranks of British Army. Being loyal supporter of British, they managed to get hold of Gurudwaras. ( By Gurudwara prabhandhak Act) . After formation of Punjab in 1966, they are able to dominate Punjab politics. Thier dominance may also be felt in cultural spehere like Music ( most of songs have Jatt reference), movies etc. Caste system is prevalent in sikhism though sikh scripts says otherwise and Jatt Sikh consider themselves superior to sikhs belonging to Schedule caste. So sikh political, religious and cultural elite ( most of them are jatt sikh) dont consider SC sikh as their own and they are not bothered much if they leave the religion. One more aspect is important that christian preachers in punjab have modelled themselves according to dera cultute so for a average Punjabi, they dont seem so different. Hitherto, Christian are unable to form as political bloc so political parties are not so worried. 3. As far as SGPC/Akali Dal's soft approach towards khalistan issue is concerned , again it is catering to its vote bank. The analysts are wrong to say that there is no taker of khalistan in Punjab. However the truth is that there is considerable population of Jatt Sikh who have sympathetic approach towards khalistan issue. Victory of Simarnjeet Singh Mann in Sangrur bypoll is evidence of it and mark my work, Amriptal Singh will also win from Khadoor Sahib. So instead of seeing SGPC as a villain, i see it as a saviour who hitherto able to kept khalistani issue in check through democratic means. This is the reason that every separtist like Akali dal ( Maan) or Amritpal Singh keep abusing Badal family.

Hi sir, thank you so much for this episode! This sentiment of a majority of Sikhs being excluded from Sikh politics will erupt and how! Time to either force Akali Dal / SGPC to be more inclusive or just get rid of the party!

Sikhs are an enigma !. Congress under Indira Gandhi desecrated the holiest of the holy shrines yet they Voted and continue to vote and support the Congress. Sikhs were massacred by the Congress goons in 1984 in Delhi and elsewhere in the country.. Yet the Sikhs in Punjab and across the country vote for the Congress. Sikhs are the most close knit religious group in India, yet a large number of them convert to christianity ; the largest conversions amongst any religious group ! Sikhs are much more liberal, and have the concept of equality and brotherhood built in within the religion, yet there are a sizeable number of SC Sikhs amongst the community and who feel as aliensted as other SCs feel amongst Hindus in general, if not more ! Sikhs as a community loved Indian Punjab, (particularly after they lost West Punjab to Muslims and Pakistan after Bharat was partitioned in 1947 and Lahore and Nankana Sahab were lost to Pakistan) the most amongst other religious groups loved their areas of concentration. Yet we see the immigration out of Punjab to other States and abroad is highest amongst them ! Sikhs are the most patriotic community among all other communities in Bharat, yet the separatist tendency for a separate State of Khalistan is the highest amongst this nationalist group ! Punjab and the Sikhs were, and still are, amongst the most prosperous states in India, yet inequalities and grievances amongst them against the system are highest in India ? ........ Lot of research is needed to understand our Sikh brothers of Punjab !

SGPC should be dissolved. It’s a British creation, the temporal power is and should be with the Akal Takht. The keshdhari requirement is madness.

While Shekhar gives interesting details, it is not clear what happens if number of eligible voters for SGPC election keeps going down and down as we go ahead in time. As long as various political parties take part in usual electoral process, we should be fine. So what exactly is the link between the two?

Very interesting story and good uncluttering

Mr Gupta when we do talk about the BJP Manifesto? Pls have a CTC on this soon #theprint #cuttheclutter

Beautifully done Shekhar. I've been a student of Sikh politics and history for the past 15 years. It is indeed developing into a Pressure point. Add to it the economy doing very badly in the past 25 years. Punjab slipping from no. 1 to no. 13 in the per capita income state ranking of large states. And a big belief of the leading Punjabi thinkers and trader community that the closing of trade ties with Pakistan is one of the major factors behind it. Probably rightly so. And not getting any support from the Modi Govt on that front. This is the linchpin that can popularize Modi in the Punjab Politics but they feel he won't do it as it doesn't suit his politics in the UP-Bihar areas.

It seems British Abrahamic institution SGPC will loose relevant in future.Dera like structure which preach actual non adultrate version of Nanak Panth should form more.The actual dharmic teaching of Nanak panth should be spread again in Punjab.

Nice video sir

Par social media par Religion se related sare gyan sirf hinduo ko hi diye jate hai

If Sikhs are the highest temple going group can you help us understand how conversion is so high in punjab?

Why should a hindu government be allowed to interfere in Sikh affairs ???

We see this across all religions

But why Shekar Gupta is covering the SGPC elections mechanism and rules..what does it have relevance in indian politics? Why doesn't he cover other religions

Old generation people are clinging on to all beliefs which don’t go as per current environment.

There was hardly sentences but SG repeated it multiple times to mke 20 mins video.

Mera Yesu Yesu seems to be working very well 😅

Whats vicky kaushal doing behind ABV at 4:23 😮

Really good 'Cuttheclutter'. I request ThePrint make more videos on this kind of matters which are important and don't get main stream media coverage. I believe The Print is becoming a really good media organization by covering such important topics. Please don't take your train on Godi media tracks.

Iran was trying to become a modern country in 1960's. Now women der are fighting for not covering head and face. Baghdad was center of science and knowledge before Ottoman came der. Now we can see what Baghdad has become. India was trying to become a modern country since independence and now we are always looking into past for almost everything. We hv to chose the path for future and live with our choices.

Vote for Unity. Vote OUT divisive polarizing forces!

SGPC is only interested in anti India agenda but won't do anything against conversions.

migration is also a reason behind decline

Namaste sir

What is a lower caste ?

It would have been far better if the law had not been changed and SGPC should have taken a risk to let the law remain in which any and every Christian, Muslim or Hindu could have posed and interfered unchecked in the Sikh elections.

😂 Any how you're agreeing that's conversation are going on in Punjab

to be a Sehajdhari Sikhs is not a strict standard.

SGPC completely failed to protect Sikh religion from Christianity and hardly there is any efforts from their side as they are wasting their time in internal politics and corruption. Sikka are no more impress with SGPC working.

SGPC is greater than the Gurus themselves, it would seem.

never understood why some religions have an obsession with hair.

Formed as armsmen to fight for sanatan dharma now persents majorities shikhs want fight against sanatandharma. They are cutting their own root .so decline of persentday Sikhs is eminent

Presence of extremist elements in SGPS could also be a major reason. To the extent that a women having Indian flag painted on her face was denied entry to the golden temple

Kept saying 'STPC' ... Sekhar'ji again rambling. He needs to find ways to keep it sharp and short. Also, could have refferred to 'better' deras that that of the infamous Ram-Rahim. The guy basically defiled the sanctity of dera culture.

Shekhar Gupta has too much fascination with Punjab/Sikh politics. If not Punjab then he will talk about Pakistan. 😂

SGPC a group of people with badal as chief gunda, their only qualification is long beards

The other half went to kenadda. 😃

Let be real punjab downfall in directly linked to this orthodoxy and anti establishment sentiment that state need major rest, with each passing year it is falling behind comapred to rest of india

A jodi is a always a jodi

Vote BJP, Save Bharath. God bless Modi-BJP,

Shekhar Gupta has become godimedia too

You have done CTC immediately after congress released manifesto but you don’t have time for BJP manifesto except spending a minute yesterday. We all know BJP will form a government again so BJP manifesto is lot more important than the party, which may win around 50 seats.

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Good topic but the analysis is incomplete. You said half way through it doesn't explain why the voter registration dropped to half. And only repeated the same analysis in the second half of the video. Disappointing.

You are no more journalist, but a BJP worker.

Where is your founded lastest statistics...😅😅😅...we'll pass you as opinions

The more i read about and look into the Sikh institutions of power, the more uglier it gets. Similar issues in TamilNadu, Kerala etc. Too much internal issues with people being openly hypocritical and hurting themselves in the process.

Conversion in Punjab is rampant but these soo called blood of Sikh warrior busy in getting visa of Canada and revolution of khalistani.... And attacking innocent Hindus.

Total misleading video