Paul Davis Jr., I agree. It’s for ghosting him and not having the decency to say, it’s not working out. Let’s be friends, etc.

Women....

@@MrWoodstar1 does she really have to.

Funtime Baby, Respectfully if you were interested in somebody or had a crush, would you want to be ghosted, or would you want him to man up and tell you the truth. It has happened to me, but I don’t feel anyway about it, and I have unintentionally done it, and when I saw the girl again, she didn’t look to happy. I understand a bit of anxiety kicks in, and you don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but it’s better to part on a good basis, because you don’t want to burn the bridges. We all need each other sometimes, in my opinion.

@@funtimebaby9108 Yes...and she also could NOT have ordered $40 worth of food when it was clear she never had interest in the first place. Within a few minutes or less, most women ALREADY know...

yuuuppp

Exactly

Savannah Lebron exactly

You're goddamn right they would

Facts bless you for stated that!

Right that should have happened before the money was spent lol

@@rogerblewett5595 She actually didn't even told him that she wasn't interested. She just ignored he's messages.

Darius Ables if a woman isn’t interested, she should definitely pay her portion of the bill right then and there

He asked her on a date. She went, had a good time but it just wasn’t there for her. Happens all the time. Dating is like gambling you’re not always gonna win 🤷🏽‍♀️ Yes she should’ve told him straight up but from this comment section you all sound so petty and entitled that even if she did tell him right away he probably would’ve asked her to cash app him the money. This is the exact reason why I think women should always pay their half cause ooh y’all get in your feelings when you’re rejected

@@tiffdawn4428 there have literally been TV specials about women who do this 7 nights a week so they can eat for free,, its not that men are butthurt its that you "ladies" have pushed a burning wagon over a cliff then wonder why it crashed on you... pushed it a little too far and men now know its "dating for profit" no matter how much you use mental gymnastics to justify yourselves the free ride will soon be over,, you wanted equality, fine you got it, with equality comes being mens direct competition in life,, GL with that...

If she respected him with an answer, they would probably be friends now. This ghosting crap is so immature and guarentees hatred between the two parties. Why would someone opt to be hated like that?

Women don't know how to own up to their mistakes. But they're masters of finding some way to blame men.

Andrew Vincent aka no accountability

@@Urrelles I agree. Just because she’s not interested in intimacy doesn’t mean they can’t be platonic. Ghosting him was childish and rude . Honesty is the best policy. I can’t blame him for sending the invoice to her as payback. Some situations like this end violently. At least this was handled in a civil manner.

kyle wiley then be upfront about it. “Let’s split the bill” before y’all even go out.

Hell no! My time and company are valuable. If he ask me out, he should pay.

Livingboldlynfierce sounds like an argument for no equal pay.

@@TemptressMoon Lol everybody time is precious. We only get one life to live. I agree if the guy invites you out he should pay. But your thinking about it is completely selfish and fucked.

@@lovethatforme Coffee dates for the first one or two dates, and nothing more. Women who are interested will demonstrate interest whether you spend zero dollars or $50.

Take the L and be classy. Id love to go on this show and speak with these people. The problem is, people don't accept sensibility anymore.

@Donald Piniach I dont bro.. I'm the guy she calls after the date is over and I fawk for free lmfao.....Dating is for people in relationships or dudes that dont get the pum pum....

@@mattyghost3409 we get it

That's the problem with the entire panel being women on issues like this. They are only going to see it from their own side and talk about how their men acted to get them. The sad thing is they would problem yell down any male hosts they had. Ironically claiming feminism to enforce gender roles. It's kind of like how some women complain about getting attention. All they see is how guys keep following the social rules of approaching women. They aren't thinking about the other side where guys are starved for affection and have to beg everywhere for it because women aren't going to approach anyone. I'm sure it sucks, but sex is like oxygen. You don't care until you're the one not getting any.

It’s gotten to the point As soon as those words out of any woman’s mouth, I stop listening

Yeah, it seems she just wanted a free meal

Matthew White exactly!!!

Agreed, she didn't ghost him till after the second drink, the meal arrived, she ate, and then ghosted. This was a foodie call through and through.

You the real MVP👌👌

I agree but why wait till you leave the restaurant? Why not pay when the bill comes?

Russell I Lol only bc this has happened to me before, and the guy kept insisting he pay but I was like nahh let's split the bill and I think he was embarrassed bc the waiter was there and I was basically friendzoning him in front of the waiter. Seemed like his ego was hurt after that mainly bc the waiter was watching so just to avoid any embarrassment I do it after we leave.

Most women know how much it costs them to get ready for a nice date. $$ nails, hair, waxing, attire, etc.

Russell I he can’t embarrass you by making a scene if you just hand him or electronically send him the money and run off once you guys have left.

Anti Bulls**t I completely agree

I agree 100%

Anti Bulls**t Both parties involved are skirting responsibility. She's wrong for ghosting & he's childish for not accepting she doesn't like him that way.

Demi Schae It’s not “childish”. Now he’ll have to go on another date and be expected to pay AGAIN. Who knows how often it’ll repeat. He’ll be spending a lot of money just to find a date. There are people who just go on dates to get a free meal. Loni even said she does it too. The guy was probably tired of being taken advantage of.

Maip video True 🤷🏼‍♂️ he should take them out for coffee or something cheaper

Right, that’s some bullshit

New term to add to the lexicon.

I don't want to see this man again, let me get more drinks to run up the bill.

I thought the same thing!!! I had to rewind to make sure tamera didn't say 43 😲

j4Rose 😂😂😂 Im gagging!!!!

Ikr 😂😂😂 I was like what? 23? Not 43?

Omg yes I thought the same lmao

I felt bad for thinking that, she really looks 28+...

Nah, hes just bitter. Men who feel like they're being used for free meals would ask their date to split the bill when it arrives. Not when they don't text back/come home with them

😂😂😂

Saya maybe he should be more selective with who he spends his money on

Or maybe hes just not a catch if you ask someone on a date and they go on it they may very well be getting to know you they arent obligated to keep dating if they discover they arent into you. Dont offer to pay in the first place if you cant handle the possibility of being rejected.

Then he should stop giving out free meals.

Amen brother

Can't tell this to women. It's like dating or talking to a child. They pout and carry on like a child when they don't get their way. F--- up the moment with a stank attitude. If she ain't happy, nobody's happy. Lie, deflect and never take any responsibility for their actions. Think they can hit a man when they're upset or angry and resort to being the weaker sex conveniently blaming you for making them mad (emotional). Think about it when you see single parent households, look at children. Check the tree, it will explain to you about the fruit!!!!

MacMillion man you hit the nail on the head. They want equality but you still pay for and do everything

David Shaw sheesh! You’re not necessarily wrong but the way you put it was wild lol. Cold blooded. Your logic is pretty solid though

KB 28 Roflmfao. Very well put 😀😀😀

Exactly when you going on a date, you are getting to know a person. Why should it involve a man spending his hard earned money? The date could be a hit or miss or the woman could be outright using him for a meal which happens a lot. Now women are blatantly expecting a man to spend an unreasonable amount of money just to buy her time. GTFOH!

@@macmillion7648 And I've seen women try to justify this. How they spend money on a new outfit, getting their hair and nails done, etc. All things most guys don't care about. She looked beautiful enough when she was just walking around normal for him to be interested and ask her out. Putting a little extra effort doesn't mean he expects her to look like she's accepting an Oscar. And it's all things that she gets to keep. She's keeping that dress and wearing those nails; her hair and makeup wasn't lasting no matter what. Men can buy a new outfit to look nice and get a hair cut; more money spent on himself for her that he continues to benefit from. But that mean is a sunk cost. Unless she's raised right, she won't start paying for dates until farther down the road. I've been kicked out of feminist Facebook groups for pointing out how the man just loses money on first dates. All things equal, they both wear that new outfit on a dozen first dates that end amicably before finding a match. She hasn't paid anything, but that guy as paid close to a thousand dollars he wouldn't normally have.

@@bryanwoods3373 Check out this KZfaq from the simp extraordinaire Derrick Jaxn titled 'Girls says, if he pays for a date with a credit card, it's not a real date'. Want to hear some dumb s--- and grasp the audacity of these women, listen to it. One of the few videos that I actually liked from DJ. Normally he's placating these women for p----- points!

A real feminist would pay for her food.. These are feminazi

@ChronoCross 866 then they are not, the thing is we tend to mix up both type philosophy just like masculinity and we tend to want merge toxic with masculinity and with that give it excuses. It is all about the economic and social perception of genders.. We need to change our expectations for all genders. Alot of women will claim feminist but really aren't. And I can see why slot of people would think feminism is just an advantage to a specific group, this comes up when egalitarian act comes people will feel oppressed by it and that is not the case.

EXACTLY what I said!!!!

Lmao

Some people age like bananas sis lol

😂 I swear I just said the same thing she really does

Alejandra Ramirez 53

Mr Williams 😂😂😂

why does a man being rejected turn into violence and assault way more often than the other way around? I see y'all are trying to act like it's women that really can't handle being rejected, but throwing a fit really doesn't equate to harassment/abuse (which men are the masters of)

@@Kittikee10 yeah true violence is wrong but he is asking for refund thats it which she ordered for 40 dollars which is not less.there is a way of rejecting someone in a classy way by informing.in every competition the person is informed like singing dancing etc.no one is ghosted

That’s an awesome summation.

I wonder how this would be framed if a woman were trying to win the affection of a man

Lol it's like looking for a job they want a passport photo(which you have to pay for) a police record(which you have to pay for) a resume(which you have to pay for) and copies of all pertinent documents(which you have to pay for) and when they decide not to hire you they don't return any of the items that you could very well use to get a job with someone that is interested in hiring you they just expect that you who is actively looking for work just has the money to spend on endless documents that they will never make use of

More like… .. Man: I like you. Let me go on a limb and gift you an experience and see if you like me back. Woman: Sure! Accepts gift. Man: How was it? Would you like to go again? Where is this going. Woman:…… .you dont exist. Man: I wouldnt mind friendship. We cool still? You busy? What up? Woman:…… .you dont exist. Man: WTF Im a human being! Fine since you want to use me give me back my gift since I dont seem to exist for you. Then my charity towards us doesnt exist either. Jerk!

@@arsenworld123 thats not the same thing cause in the job scenario u at least still have all the items and can apply for another job. You spend 50 dollars on a date that money is gone and u have nothing to show for it

That's all automatic lol

RicoLamar987 fr

AGREEEEEEEEEEDDDDD

RicoLamar987 let her know if you're paying for the $50 meal you're expecting sex in return. Don't be a hypocrite and hide your filthy intentions, yeah?

Mathea Charles so the ideal situation is you and your date make that arrangement of going Dutch on the date so there's no nasty surprises or unwanted obligations to the man afterwards.

Totally agreed ghosting is immature. You should always let the person know whats up. Not everyone gets mad. A lot of people are scared of a response but honestly I would just be polite, tell the truth. Then if they start throwing insults I don't need to keep responding but I will always be REAL and CONSIDERATE.

James Reed men do it to women as well. Just like men who live off women.

Tashana Walker you know the scenario he posted is much more rare to happen to women than to happen to men. Most dates, the man is expected to (and does) pay, not the other way around, therefore, there will be FAR more men who pay for dates and get ghosted. Women at most pay half the bill, not the full bill. In the scenario you laid out, the woman isn’t being ghosted. She is just funding a guy’s lifestyle. And you also should know there are FAR more men who fund women’s lives than the other way around. You do know about hypergamy right? Women most of the time date/marry men who make more money or around the same amount of money as them. Then dating a freeloading man is an anomaly compared to the other way around. And how many women do you see paying alimony to men after a divorce vs the other way around?

@@tashanawalker5931 yes but men get frowned upon men they do that, but in wahmens world, it is consider a must and normal... see the difference?

@@KennyBucketz bro you missed her main point. What she was trying to say was, the 1% of dudes who freeload is somehow justification for the much much MUUUCCHHH larger percentage of women who freeload.

actually the thing is that these women order food and drinks which they cannot afford themselves and that is why they have made this silly rule where a guy is supposed to pay for the first date. Its like a guy is supposed to have a humongous amount of money to pay for food and drinks which he is not supposed to touch and most of it goes to waste. Now if that women has some self respect or dignity she should pay him back with an apology. Because do you know who asks for free food? Beggars

lilian makori I agree on all parts, but I guess that a good way to get their attention. Lol.

What is that mean ghosting someone?

Ethiopia Hagere when youre communicaying with someone and then just stop all forms of communication.

lilian makori Sometimes its necessary to ghost though. Some guys just need to be cut off for the sake of your own sanity.

Khanyisa Biko if a guy is an asshole, don’t go out with him. Finessing someone out of money and disappearing is not cool. That’s why I think people should pay for their own meals when they go out. I’m not gonna spend money on someone and have them do me dirty by ghosting.

You are missing something my brother, it's about women and "accountability", something too many women seem to lack in, including the entire panel and audience of the show.

95% of the time she offers to pay she is lying and expecting you to refuse the offer.

@@AKSBSU Every time a girl has asked to split the bill or pay her share. I always accept. You should see the look on their faces. I had one that offered, I accepted, and she didn't pay.

Kacey Kent Yes!

Kacey Kent any color it seems. She's gorgeous anyway.

Stephanie Castillio That's cause she was there for good food, not to impress the guy by following some stupid dating rules like "its best to order a small salad on the first date cause its neat"

If it's a good salad,why not?

Marina Smith, you are missing the point. Rather keep quiet if you don't understand.

Omphile Moerane I know, that’s what I’m applauding haha

Stephanie Castillo you idiots still think it’s cute to order a salad on the first date? 🙄 No wonder women can’t keep a man anymore, y’all fake and pretentious af and men are going MGTOW

Vikta K money, time and rejection - of course he’s hurt.

Not to mention she ordered food and expected it to just be free

bryan diaz varela could even end up with change from the 40 bucks

It was karma for her and the man was not nice.

He wouldnt have invoiced. He would have been her friend. Friendships are good things to have. Not sure why mwomen prefer to be utterly hated by men they arent attracted to, than be friends with them.

I would have....invoice her a$$

Womaned up! Hahaha

I agree. I think he billed her for how she handled it, not because she wasn't interested.

just glad men are taking a stand and no longer allowing the double standards

Yup, this show is for female sheep, cause none of them are making sense.

Joe T bum

Exactly pay that damn bill.

Joe T Yeah, but you're assuming that she was never interested and was only there for a free meal or something. She probably was interested and then wasn't anymore. It happens. If he wanted to split the bill evenly, he should have said so at dinner. He's just being petty because she doesn't want him.

Why is he so petty and stingy thats the actual question nobody forced u to pay. He only paid because he wanted to show off but it clearly ddnt work, cuz who is going to be impressed by someone paying for them, its just a nice gesture end of story... Whats wrong with men out there who think if they decided they wanted to pay a girl something that they owe them any kind of favor looool even prostitutes charge more than 40$

Maybe he offered her the dinner? And if that is the case he should have paid for it. *EDIT* Actually this man could be crazy and you don't want to waste time arguing about this. Just pay the bill and keep it moving.

GyrlBlaque Wendy 🙌🏿

Lol 😂

I was gonna say the same girl 😏😎😂😂

They'll still take them pennies at the bank when he makes that deposit.

My brain read it as penis plural 😂 so tired

King Puddin No. Extortion is illegal whether youre female or male.

exactly. I'm a girl and I know that Adrienne would say " Girl you need to do something " or something like that. I think it was wrong and disrespectful to leave without paying. And not text back. You are a grown woman if you are not feeling him tell him! And you agreed to go on that date. He didn't force you! However taking it to a collection agency is a bit much...

#preach.

Natalia Edwards You are assuming that the guy never offered or insisted to pay? There was nothing in the summary they read to suggest that he was forced to pay or the lady gave no option to pay. Ive dated wonderful guys who insisted on paying even when i was like nah or eating something non "fancy". But no real man (I know) would do that unless hes like crazy. Also, none of my female friends would do that to their dates either. If they did i would give them the shade eye too. So Im just saying, something aint right! Thats all im saying.

Sweet Pea Co what do you disagree on?

ChaseHLee they did say they would tell him.

Girl Bye! Yea 40 bucks on her alone for a 1st date is a lot ! Yea that's rude n wasn't fair . But maybe ppl need to learn their lessons .

Girl Bye! I disagree. Who's to say she didn't change her mind when she got home after he offered to pay for dinner? This chick doesn't owe him anything. Sometimes dates and chemistry don't work out, so you maturely move on. Sure, she could of done the polite thing and told him the truth afterwards, but frankly, she doesn't even owe him that. Lesson learned for both parties. Choose your dates wisely, and perhaps pick a cheaper first date spot.

You Said I didn't really write this post for anyone to agree. Commenting is open to the public boo. I said what I said... and that's what I meant. Thanks and goodbye :)

You Said she doesnt owe him anything how u except him to get his tab run up by her 40 $ on her alone n he dnt no her ??... yea she owes an apology for one .. n he deserves more decency for that ! Cmon she doesn't have to luv the guy go to bed w him or like him hard crushing but she dnt have to that cold , just tell him u don't want to take things further w him n move on but at least be women enough to tell him .

hebrew queen Exactly!!

Pay for spending time with someone, you never want to see again.....Nope!

roter13 not necessarily

roter13 true they would have held her up

they would’ve said “WELL HE SHOULDNT HAVE GHOSTED HER!”

I agree!

True.

Karriem Muhammad Yes. Extortion is illegal and unethical whether you're a female or a male.

nigeriansista interesting

Pennies!

😂😂😂

Drop it off at his front door 😂 #petty

I would send a more expensive bill back to him for the nuisance that was his company and a "waste my time" fee of 50 dollars, invasive personal questions 30 dollars, gas fee of 20 dollars etc.

this is the best comment ever lol

i agree completely. it made her look bad not him. thats gross of her to use him and disappear

Jose Alvarez *cuz she was hungry* 😅😅😅😅

daniellelove *He

So did he. Anyone that would ghost somebody is too immature and inconsiderate to be with.

It only go one way for people like you huh ? "That woman is a victim of a terrible oppressor, patriarchy, looser, blah blah!" So it's completely normal to accept that type of behaviour, this woman had all the rights to enjoy free meal and to ghost him dirty he?! If you talk about the so called "Equality" My ass! The comment section here is one of the prime example of how dysfunctionnal some of you American women are and have a serious problem... the acceptance level of that woman's attitude toward this man goes beyond disgusting... This is why so many men choose other path nowaday instead of getting involved with some of ya'll, if it's to enjoy your "privileges" and disrepect men like that, go ahead have some fun, but more and more of them are waking up with this total "Feminazi" nonsense going on right now...

Mila Jones Isn't he trying to make them go 50/50? So why y'all pressed about him billing her lol?

Debra love 3pm YES love ko 3pm yes 4pm yes

monique gyampo i would pay too so I get that greedy guy off my back. But do you know if your credit gets hurt if its sent to a collection agency??? Bc If not, then i might just let him send to collection and i just pay through them so I dont have to deal with him. Any person like that could be unsafe to be with a second time.

I would pay so he can be out of my life for good

I disagree

Me too

monique gyampo exactly pay and then forget about it... she did eat the food 😃

gurl school does not last forever for some folks - at some point you gotta go out in the real world

already8use I’m meaning when I was in school. Lol.

LumiereDarling Same

Mmmhm. Friendship is the bedrock of any good relationship.

LumiereDarling That is my point exactly! I choose to get to know a man a little better before I will agree to go on a date with him. I do not like the idea of blind dates. I do not like being set up with men that I have never met. I want to know him first and find out if the chemistry is right.

Drinks are always safer the first day..

Vivian Sylvester Loni said on IG they sent her home cause she was really sick.

She is

Amateur?! Tom Lykis rules 101, men don't do coffee dates. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMqcdrV90JjeYZs.html