Undoing the New Deal: The 1944 Coup Against VP Henry Wallace

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6 жыл бұрын

Historian Peter Kuznick and Paul Jay discuss the historical context of the fight between the Sanders’ progressive wing against the oligarchy within the Democratic Party; the overthrow of Vice President Wallace by an alliance of party bosses and Southern racists was a turning point in the decades long process to roll back the New Deal
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@cbeaucrawford
@cbeaucrawford 6 жыл бұрын
So glad you are telling this story. History repeats itself, and progressives need to know our history. Ken Burns' series The Roosevelts also profiles Wallace and shows his popular appeal.
@patrickhumphreys4088
@patrickhumphreys4088 2 жыл бұрын
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@anonfrank546
@anonfrank546 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Wallace is the greatest president we were blocked from having
@juanpecan7089
@juanpecan7089 Жыл бұрын
"Germany lost WW2 but fascism won" - George Carlin
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 10 ай бұрын
Both Dewey and Goldwater would have been a much better presidents than Wallace.
@stocktonlord24
@stocktonlord24 9 ай бұрын
We was vain, egotistical, hard to work with and had poor relations with congress. He wasn’t half the man Truman was
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 9 ай бұрын
@@stocktonlord24-- Who is 'We'?
@rickbishop5987
@rickbishop5987 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Outstanding!
@NoWay1969
@NoWay1969 6 жыл бұрын
On the left, we need to specify more often the difference between Left/Right economics and Left/Right social policy.
@tonydemasso3691
@tonydemasso3691 6 жыл бұрын
exactly
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 жыл бұрын
I wish more people knew and understood the significance of the Smedley Butler coup mentioned at 4:29
@scottishboer3126
@scottishboer3126 2 жыл бұрын
I thought smedley butler was opposed to USA imperialism. Can you please expand this coup mentioned. Thanks in advance
@juanpecan7089
@juanpecan7089 Жыл бұрын
@@scottishboer3126 "the business plot" - a failed fascist coup
@yippeeyokai5750
@yippeeyokai5750 4 жыл бұрын
I want to live in that parallel universe where Wallace became president in 1945. It would be a better world.
@cherisebauguss6966
@cherisebauguss6966 2 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@rational-public-discourse
@rational-public-discourse Жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@nikolaievans2432
@nikolaievans2432 Жыл бұрын
You realize Wallace was a stalin sympathizer he was whitewashed
@davidhutchinson5233
@davidhutchinson5233 4 жыл бұрын
As always...Excellent Mr. Jay. And thank you Professor Kuznick.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 жыл бұрын
16:47 - It's Wallace that says that America's fascists are those who put Wall St. comes first and the American people come second.
@TanisC
@TanisC 6 жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing eye opener!!!! I knew the democratic party was devious, but absolutely had no idea how much so. How history could so swiftly repeat itself, baffled me just now. It totally feels like we are living in a new 1930's era, only 100x's worse.
@diegodelgado9764
@diegodelgado9764 3 жыл бұрын
Worse than the great depression and start of ww2 youre trippin
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 Жыл бұрын
Because we are.... What we have seen since 2010? Fits the roaring 20's to a T. I fully expect this system to fail completely in the next 8-9 months.
@juanpecan7089
@juanpecan7089 Жыл бұрын
Class analysis is helpful here - capital will always try to capture governments.
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 Жыл бұрын
@@juanpecan7089 Anthropology shows that every form of governance (save egalitarian) has been nothing but a means to control and appease the masses, while their value was forcibly extracted from them. Regardless of the social/economic/political system of their respective time periods. Its always been an illusion of freedom, within an invisible economic jail cell.
@rational-public-discourse
@rational-public-discourse Жыл бұрын
Don't be so political and sure of yourself. The corporate power that controlled the Democratic Party bosses and which also controlled the Republican Party bosses would have had a much easier time with controlling the election on the Republican side had someone like Wallace was in their camp. In fact, Wallace would have stuck out in a Republican administration and would not have lasted for very long. It was only because of the political clout that he had with both Roosevelt and the general public which made it more difficult for the power elite to remove Wallace from the 1944 ticket.
@richardburt9812
@richardburt9812 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I didn't really know the Wallace story.
@aleaiactaest8354
@aleaiactaest8354 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating history lesson!
@ccorum1
@ccorum1 6 жыл бұрын
Great series. A good complement to the excellent Oliver Stone-Kuznick "The Untold History of the U.S." (also on KZfaq).
@juanpecan7089
@juanpecan7089 Жыл бұрын
That's where I first learned about the coup against Wallace (and the New Deal)
@liz-iy6zm
@liz-iy6zm 5 ай бұрын
this series is so important. thank you Real News.
@torrentialrage
@torrentialrage 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. This is valuable information. Thank you.
@charleskesner1302
@charleskesner1302 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Thanks for this.
@lastfirst5154
@lastfirst5154 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent reporting.
@Dulcimerea
@Dulcimerea 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and excellent series.
@nedrawtheworkingclasslefty3636
@nedrawtheworkingclasslefty3636 6 жыл бұрын
Great series.
@brianbooker8736
@brianbooker8736 6 жыл бұрын
It seems like whenever we reach a fork in the road we take the wrong path or maybe not. I just watched a video by Vijay P. and he explained our predicament very well. His analysis of Capitalism went something like this, Capitalism has up and down cycles. Keynes determined that when Capitalism is in one of it's down cycles then the Government has to step in and give a counter-cyclic economic stimulus to make sure the downturn doesn't go to far. This is what Roosevelt did with the New-Deal. The stimulus was a social one because of the power of the labor and the people's movements of that day. Vijay says that America turned the social stimulus into a military stimulus as the power of the people eroded. I believe this is one of the reasons Henry W. wasn't placed back on the Democratic ticket. There is this debate that America is in this struggle between the forces of Democracy and those of Imperialism. I'm not so sure if that is the case. If you stick with Vijay's argument then something happened in the 1970's when we went off the Gold standard. The Federal Reserve note no longer had a fixed value and it's value could become whatever America wanted it to be. Pegging it's value to the main energy source (oil) of nations meant that in order for nations to grow they had to have dollars. The seventies was also when automation and globalization started gaining traction so manufacturing didn't play as big of a role in Capitalism, the cyclic nature of Capitalism changed and speculation became the new structure.This all collapsed in 2008 and instead of us doing the smart thing to restructure our economy into a sustainable one, we've been trying to keep the party going. Trump's theatrics are the last act in this story of greed and deception. Unfortunately it's over and like they used to say when I was a young man when the party would end "you don't have to go home but you have to leave here."
@MrCtsSteve
@MrCtsSteve 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Booker that's a very interesting take .
@michaelhart1597
@michaelhart1597 Жыл бұрын
You are spot-on with political,and economical assessment of this culture. In regards to Trump, he was and still is a representative of the power that be, just a different wing disguised As a populist leader. Get the book Money and Power By Sally Denton and Roger Morris. It will give you a better understanding of Trump and those he truly stand with and for
@rational-public-discourse
@rational-public-discourse Жыл бұрын
Of course Wallace did not represent the racist southern wing of the Democratic Party at the time. He was from the mid-west, and up until 1932, he was a Republican and he came from a family of Republican who were sympathetic to the progressive wing of the Republican Party that did existed in the early part of the 20th century. It was basically Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, and even Nixon -- who exploited the racist and religious south -- is what led to what we have now.
@caimacd
@caimacd 6 жыл бұрын
That was awesome... and an interesting proposition.
@Bob-yl9pm
@Bob-yl9pm 3 жыл бұрын
"Even Woodrow Wilson would regret his actions, and before his death (for which he was poisoned, assassinated) stated: "I am a most unhappy man--unwittingly I have ruined my country." "The bill passed on December 22, 1913, and signed it into law the next day. Later he regretted what he had done.
@itzenormous
@itzenormous 6 жыл бұрын
Or Paul, we could just call them what they are ... the Right Wing.
@pronoob1983
@pronoob1983 6 жыл бұрын
holy crap, wow! how different things could have been!
@warrenpeece1726
@warrenpeece1726 16 күн бұрын
Intersting. I just read a new biography of Henry Wallace that included research into FBI and USSR archives. It detailed the massive influence on and support for Henry Wallace and the Progressive Party by the USSR, as well as their efforts to interfere with the election of 1948.
@steveneubeck3768
@steveneubeck3768 6 жыл бұрын
I reside near the border with Canada.The presenters on "Hockey Night in Canada" know more about American history than people born in the states.I was at an outdoor concert and I had to show a woman from Brasil where the Canadian consulate is she told me there are Americans in grad school who could not find their school's state(Missouri) on the map.
@tinapatton7346
@tinapatton7346 5 жыл бұрын
For post-WW2 so called 'Free Market' - read 'FRAUD Market'!!
@theavocado6061
@theavocado6061 2 жыл бұрын
I had know idea Peter Kuznick was the guest but I should have figured.
@josephballin9937
@josephballin9937 6 жыл бұрын
Cover William Jennings Bryan and his fight of the corporate democratic wing
@discodirk48
@discodirk48 6 жыл бұрын
And sadly he has been written out of history
@christopherrodriguez3198
@christopherrodriguez3198 5 жыл бұрын
Secondary Source!!
@RealActualNews
@RealActualNews 4 жыл бұрын
five feet
@kathys2357
@kathys2357 6 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about (Rep.John William Wright Patman) too.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 жыл бұрын
Wallace would have been an amazing President.
@LeeePowers
@LeeePowers 4 жыл бұрын
Share Share Share!!!!
@DougGrinbergs
@DougGrinbergs 3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame the interview audio is so dreadfully bad - tinny, thin (:-(
@martindagoberto7165
@martindagoberto7165 7 ай бұрын
Ok, bye. Im jumping over to that timeline.
@carolinawren3594
@carolinawren3594 6 жыл бұрын
begs the question why Franklin Roosevelt ran as a democrat if most of the country and his own extended family were republican.
@BabyDiazmusic
@BabyDiazmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Carolina Wren That was the other side of his family. Watch the Ken Burns documentary on the Roosevelt's. Teddy had more Democratic values but then again the parties were very different then. There were good republicans back then now if you are a republican you're either rich, racist, or uninformed
@vicoilsteems9764
@vicoilsteems9764 5 жыл бұрын
I believe Liberal Republicans followed Republican Teddys Roosevelt progressive values to break up monopolies and ended up joining the democratic party .
@matthewkopp2391
@matthewkopp2391 Жыл бұрын
Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive Republican. He advocated for universal healthcare and breaking monopolies. The Republican Party was historically more progressive than democrats until the 1920s. Wallace also started off as a Republican. There were Nazi supporting Democrats like William Randolph Hearst and there were KKK Dixiecrats. Woodrow Wilson fired all African Americans from federal jobs and violated the civil rights German Americans and also launched a Red Scare violating more civil rights not to mentioned lied the USA into a war.
@Kelpy
@Kelpy 6 жыл бұрын
your donation form is a nightmare. Why can't it go directly to paypal, instead of all the blanks to filll in on form one of three??????
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 жыл бұрын
15:56 - where do these old videos live, and how can I find them and watch them? There is damn little stuff about FDR these days, even on KZfaq, and I know there were all kinds of radio shows and NewsClips of FDR ... where is it all?
@destroya3303
@destroya3303 6 жыл бұрын
If you want more information on FDR, read the book "Perpetual War For Perpetual Peace"
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 жыл бұрын
Can you read? i want access to his videos and audio files. I have plenty of reading material.
@destroya3303
@destroya3303 6 жыл бұрын
Clearly not enough reading material if you still think this guy was a hero. Why would you want more audio and video of him lying to you anyway. Better to read actual history to see what was going on behind his words
@Chris-filosifer64
@Chris-filosifer64 6 жыл бұрын
You might find some on the national archives page.
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that is a good thought, but I think I might have looked there in the past. I don't know why there is this very powerful motivation in the modern Conservative media to eviscerate the influences of FDR and replace it with Ronald Reagan. Reagan started these huge pointless deficits, so the strategy of the Libertarian Conservative movement even at this time put his plan in motion and we see it coming to fruition now. Instead of looking honestly at how to tweak these programs so they work better we find they are totally condemned and a brutal class war on the middle and working classes is raised as the moral alternative ... immoral I'd say. FDR's programs led to better growth than Reaganomics ... that is, voodoo economics, and a trend towards less inequality and justice, whereas Reagan's elitist, globalist regressive policies has led to low growth and killing deficits, and revealed a lot of the most activist people at the top to be of the ilk of Donald Trump, aloof, arrogant, rotten people who only care about amassing more money and power.
@robertpolityka8464
@robertpolityka8464 6 жыл бұрын
From 1832 to 1932, The Democratic Nominee for the Presidency had to win "two thirds" of the delegates to get the nomination. As a result, Democratic nominees were "compromise candidates" who had to have Support of both northern liberals and southern conservatives. FDR abolished the "two thirds rule" and future Democratic Presidential nominees only needed a simply a majority of delegates. (One incumbent President Franklin Pierce was denied renomination in 1856. ). The elimination of the "two thirds rule" allows a candidate to be more liberal.
@WarScholar
@WarScholar 3 жыл бұрын
I got Peter Kuznick to summarize the Cold War from 1944 to 1960 for me and talk about his books. The discussion can be found at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJOkZNShp7CVnmg.html or warscholar.org/?p=2408
@scheminsiman
@scheminsiman 6 жыл бұрын
Here is the prior videos mentioned at the beginning. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLiYopuZ0traZ2w.html
@robertpolityka8464
@robertpolityka8464 5 жыл бұрын
Clinton vs. Obama is a match of a liberal vs. An ultra-liberal. Wallace vs. Byrnes is more of a Midwestern Progressive vs. Southern Conservatives. In 2018, it would be almost like if Bernie Sanders was the incumbent Vice President versus Senator Lindsay Graham of South Carolina (if he was a Democrat instead of a Republican).
@vicoilsteems9764
@vicoilsteems9764 5 жыл бұрын
Clinton and Obama are faux liberals
@theoriginalalteff4
@theoriginalalteff4 6 жыл бұрын
fix the audio on your videos. it is annoying to try to listen to them
@Oners82
@Oners82 6 жыл бұрын
theoriginalalteff4 There's nothing wrong with the audio on their end and there is nothing they can do about shitty audio from a guest who has a crap microphone.
@leonardkellum6984
@leonardkellum6984 Жыл бұрын
Today, Sanders is frowned upon as another bag of wind.
@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if FDR kept Wallace. What a start to the Cold War that'd have been
@NishanthRajiwtbawlb
@NishanthRajiwtbawlb 3 жыл бұрын
There wouldn’t have been a cold war
@eileenmc4746
@eileenmc4746 Жыл бұрын
And no nagasaki hiroshima bombing
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 10 ай бұрын
@@NishanthRajiwtbawlb-- Yeah, Wallace would have given Stalin everything he demanded, while licking his shoes.
@diegodelgado9764
@diegodelgado9764 3 жыл бұрын
The new deal was paying americans to build america bernie wanted to pay overpriced shools for a mostly invaluable education bad idea
@carlpales514
@carlpales514 4 жыл бұрын
22:00: Had Wallace become President “there would have been no atomic bombings of Japan . . .there would have been no Cold War.” Where is the evidence for these assertions? The definitive biography of Wallace, “American Dreamer,” states that there is no record of Wallace, either in private or publicly, opposing Truman’s decision to drop the bombs. As for the Cold War, there indeed might not have been one since Wallace would likely have been rolled by Stalin.
@engineerkhrushchevcrc9438
@engineerkhrushchevcrc9438 3 жыл бұрын
Wallace was against the atomic bomb.
@climatedeceptionnetwork4122
@climatedeceptionnetwork4122 6 жыл бұрын
It's going to take a total burnout of the working class unless we somehow break capital's grip on the media. eddie evans - ClimateDeception.Net
@snapfinger1
@snapfinger1 Жыл бұрын
The dumping of Wallace saved America.
@noeltaylor3594
@noeltaylor3594 Жыл бұрын
You sure? We've gone off the gold standard. Economy hiccups every 7 years. 2008-09. Wages are stagnant. Housing prices through the roof and 72 million proclaimed " Mordeci Jones" as " GOD", don stupid red hats, and proclaimed themselves patriots.
@idicula1979
@idicula1979 6 жыл бұрын
WHERE'S WALLACE, WHERE'S WALLACE, STRING WHERE'S WALLACE, screamed Reagan, no I'm sorry got my fact wrong Reagan was a FDR supporter.
@vicoilsteems9764
@vicoilsteems9764 5 жыл бұрын
?
@brianevans6328
@brianevans6328 6 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between "Red" Pepper and Henry Wallace on one hand and the over educated intellectuals who make these videos on the other hand? Answer, Pepper and Wallace admitted they were wrong.
@andrewhoyle1521
@andrewhoyle1521 3 жыл бұрын
Im sorry, as a lifelong leftist Henry Wallace wouldve been a disaster to follow Fdr. He wouldve surrendered too much to Stalin, a postion he later admits he was wrong about. It wouldve set the left back even more than the later yrs of Trumans 2nd term & might have given the means to which someone like MacArthur couldve become president. He wouldve certainly lost in 1948. That being said he was spot on with regards to alot of issues
@jerrysullivan8424
@jerrysullivan8424 Жыл бұрын
BINGO! All that one has to do is read the book "THE FORSAKEN written by Tim Tzouliadis to know who the real Stalin was and how he murdered 17 million of his own people to stay in power.
@walt4690
@walt4690 3 жыл бұрын
what the fuck happened to bettering ourselves as americans? fuck money in politics
@waywardgeologist2520
@waywardgeologist2520 Жыл бұрын
Your source is a far leftest. Not exactly balanced
@KenGroth-ts6ge
@KenGroth-ts6ge 10 ай бұрын
Telling a republican that hes a big spender is not an attack from the right, its just a fact
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