These photos sparked a Cold War propaganda feud

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2 жыл бұрын

In 1961, Life magazine photographed systemic poverty in Brazil. One Brazilian magazine responded with a similar report - featuring photos of New York City.
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Life magazine, then the most popular general interest weekly in the United States, announced in 1961 that it wanted to help win the Cold War. Communist revolutionary Fidel Castro had taken control of Cuba two years earlier, making nearby Latin American countries the newest battleground over economic influence between the capitalist US and communist Soviet Union. The magazine wanted to promote President John F. Kennedy’s new “Alliance for Progress” financial aid program, which planned to use financial incentives to encourage Latin American countries to resist communism and fall under US influence.
As part of its new mission, Life sent photographer Gordon Parks to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to report on systemic poverty there. His resulting photo essay, and in particular his main subject, 12-year-old Flavio da Silva, was hugely popular in the US. Life’s readers, moved by the photos of Flavio and his story of struggling with severe asthma, mailed in thousands in donations to “save him.” The leading pediatric asthma hospital in the US, in Denver, Colorado, offered to treat him for free. A follow-up cover story by Life, titled “Flavio’s Rescue,” celebrated American generosity.
But Brazilian media saw the photo essay as a negative, stereotypical view of Brazil. Brazilian magazine O Cruzeiro - a weekly publication that, like Life, featured photographic essays - decided to respond to Life’s report. O Cruzeiro sent one of its photographers, Henri Ballot, to New York. There, he photographed a family of Puerto Rican immigrants living in a poor area of Manhattan, and O Cruzeiro printed the photos in a layout that directly copied Life’s. When examined side by side, the two photo essays - and the international feud they kicked off - tell a story of sensationalism, and propaganda.
Ultimately, US intervention in Latin American in the 1960s didn’t work out as Kennedy hoped. The Alliance for Progress sent Latin American countries billions of dollars in financial aid, but it didn’t end up benefiting the people living in the region, and by the 1970s was considered a failure. Like the two photo essays, the initiative was more about propaganda than it was about addressing the root causes of poverty.
The Flávio Story, co-published by Steidl Books and The Gordon Parks Foundation:
steidl.de/Books/The-Flavio-St...
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@Vox
@Vox 2 жыл бұрын
We’re excited to introduce a third season of Darkroom! Our photography and history series has a whole new batch of photos to unpack for you - keep an eye out in the coming weeks for the real story of how the American bison almost became extinct, and a closer look at the most analyzed photo of all time: the famous “backyard photo” depicting John F Kennedy’s assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. See you soon. -Coleman
@CyberbotXD
@CyberbotXD 2 жыл бұрын
nice
@plasticfoodslol
@plasticfoodslol 2 жыл бұрын
2nd reply
@ishbelDunsmore
@ishbelDunsmore 2 жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how excited I am for this series.
@jhoang861
@jhoang861 2 жыл бұрын
I’m hooked! Keep it coming!
@matthewshannah5015
@matthewshannah5015 2 жыл бұрын
Oo
@jumanpatowary4486
@jumanpatowary4486 2 жыл бұрын
Always powerful people use the poor to their advantage, all over the world.
@samuraiboi2735
@samuraiboi2735 2 жыл бұрын
Well its always the rich powerful who uses poor people to take advantage something like that especilly for ads well unless its for something good like food charities
@nanilama7016
@nanilama7016 2 жыл бұрын
I guess that's how the WORLD works n Earth has created us like that "U can see we humans use animals
@brendaluv2017
@brendaluv2017 2 жыл бұрын
I’m mad at both magazines
@raphaellouisreyes6069
@raphaellouisreyes6069 2 жыл бұрын
It has always been the case throughout the history. The uninformed public being exploited not just by the rich but also by some existing political agenda - to forward its cause, mainly, not for the interest of people, but because they see the world as a realm which works with power and in some cases, even in the present day, they just regard power as the ultimate goal. It's always about the narrative of the oppressed and the oppressor, of the divide among communities and when we highlight that, when we deem that it's always about groups versus groups (rich vs poor, gov't vs people, etc) we neglect an important narrative, a piece, where individual responsibility and capability plays. Like in this video, a comparison of a local's life in Brazil in the 60's against an immigrant's life in the US in the same era. I think we should also consider, why such poverty exist in both countries and to what degree or magnitude before we conclude and come up with that comparison. Fast forward to 2020s, I guess the poorest of the poor in developed countries is still in a more 'livable condition' (let's say that for the lack of better term) when you compare it against 'the poorest of the poor' in developing countries, like in my country.
@EOstr.
@EOstr. 2 жыл бұрын
Just to ensure to produce more poverty to exploit later.
@dalatinobrother_1688
@dalatinobrother_1688 2 жыл бұрын
US: shows poverty in Brazil. Brazil: shows poverty in US. US: No. This isn't how you supposed to play the game.
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
US Poverty Rate: 13.7% (2021) People living in inadequate housing in Brazil: 23%
@TheKnight-zf5eb
@TheKnight-zf5eb 2 жыл бұрын
People in the comments unable to get a lesson about the real causes of poverty in both countries and just replicating a 60 years old discussion: 95%
@jumbomuffin1316
@jumbomuffin1316 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightmare1235 your point is?
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@jumbomuffin1316 You cannot compare the poverty in 1st world nations to 3rd world nations
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightmare1235 then compare the us to denmark, uk, germany, japan, australia, canada, france, italy, switzerland, etc. because the US is actually bottom of the pack when it comes to first world countries. You cant just say OH this is bad and proceed to say that at least your not in the CAF. people like you should go the EU, Japan, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, even Israel, because the US is not a nation without poverty. 13.7 percent of 330M is 24 million people. Also 3rd world is just countries on neither side of the cold war. Use an f'in dictionary you little 5yr old
@caiolustosa8544
@caiolustosa8544 2 жыл бұрын
Btw, Favela da catacumba where the photos were taken no longer exists. It was burnt down, most probably on pourpouse, a few years later in 67. Its now a beautiful park with a very dark history
@Trilo-Kh2D
@Trilo-Kh2D 2 жыл бұрын
also, it was during the brazilian dictatorship, which was financed and supported by the US.
@trkav
@trkav 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trilo-Kh2D Ironic considering the powerful in the us were using it as a example of misery.
@GustavoGomes-nn5np
@GustavoGomes-nn5np 2 жыл бұрын
I visited that parka while ago vety beatiful yet a bad vibe once you think about the fact the some people were burnt aloe then buried under some of the trail
@damongraham1398
@damongraham1398 2 жыл бұрын
What is it called now?
@jgsodre
@jgsodre 2 жыл бұрын
@@damongraham1398 Parque da Catacumba. Next to it, high-end residential buildings.
@jackbrown3985
@jackbrown3985 2 жыл бұрын
To the Vox team: You never cease to spread light on interesting, important and captivating topics, thank you.
@elinewllms
@elinewllms 2 жыл бұрын
+
@sketchflix6425
@sketchflix6425 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah vox. Thank you so much.
@EclecticoIconoclasta
@EclecticoIconoclasta 2 жыл бұрын
But still it presents too much of a liberal point of view for my taste. The problems of the world need a point of view which can go beyond the very moderate liberal views of an outlet like Vox.
@jackbrown3985
@jackbrown3985 2 жыл бұрын
@@EclecticoIconoclasta That’s a very fair point, however it must be recognized that they’re much more moderate than many other outlets out there, such as fox, on one end, or shows like John Oliver on the other. Instead it is deprived (for the most part) of initial opinion, and instead pulls views of people, positions and policies from the material discussed, and the solutions that seem the most viable. Let me know if you agree.
@EclecticoIconoclasta
@EclecticoIconoclasta 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackbrown3985 Ezra Klein and the other founders of Vox tend to be very supportive of the leadership and main line of the liberal and neo-imperialist US Democratic party. I can well remember a particular video where Klein dedicated himself to praising Obama. That is why there is hardly any questioning by Vox of the military industrial complex or of the neoliberal economic consensus that has been supported in the last decades by both US political parties who are mostly bought completely by corporations
@victorminea2005
@victorminea2005 2 жыл бұрын
Usa: lets show to the world how miserable life is in Brazil. Brazil: lets show to the world how miserable life is in Usa. Usa: surprized Pickachu face
@Whatsayoutuber
@Whatsayoutuber 2 жыл бұрын
i literally read this as "Usa" like a name instead of "U.S.A." like an acronym lol .... I was like, "Who is Usa?"
@ROBLOXGamingDavid
@ROBLOXGamingDavid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatsayoutuber to me it probably looked like KuroUsa; a Japanese music artist (try searching it if you want to find out)
@aryansyahputra8278
@aryansyahputra8278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatsayoutuber who cares
@augh4659
@augh4659 2 жыл бұрын
@@aryansyahputra8278 them
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
Aw yes, Brazil, a country with favelas that are nasty and ridden with gangs, is going to make the US look bad
@perrydowd9285
@perrydowd9285 2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent. A clinical, intelligent look at the media and what lies behind the news is just what we need right now. 👍👍👍👍👍
@channingbloom7125
@channingbloom7125 2 жыл бұрын
700
@monbjra
@monbjra 2 жыл бұрын
So in that context what about china. America is doing same thing to china now. Even UN says there is no evidence of genocide going on in Xianxing.
@CoCre8ors
@CoCre8ors 2 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯💯💯
@Silverstorm173
@Silverstorm173 2 жыл бұрын
@@monbjra ??
@arghyadas6978
@arghyadas6978 2 жыл бұрын
Poor people are mere pawns at the hands of the rich and powerful.
@briobarb8525
@briobarb8525 2 жыл бұрын
Always have been...and sadly...probably always will be. The only thing equally as sad is when they claim it is done in the name of god and righteousness.
@scienceium5233
@scienceium5233 2 жыл бұрын
@@briobarb8525 always have been , gun Shot
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 2 жыл бұрын
@@briobarb8525 "Always have been...and sadly...probably always will be." Not if Basic Human Decency is treated as more important than being wealthy. Of course, that would require the majority of people to realize that most of the powerful wealthy people are Sociopaths that need to be "addressed"...
@briobarb8525
@briobarb8525 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhollenshead4892 Very True!
@osamabinladin7581
@osamabinladin7581 2 жыл бұрын
Rich people pay poor people for their service.and those poor people have some opportunity’s to become rich just like the rich people you’re going after. And not all people are the same so if you go after all of the rich and powerful people it won’t much solve the problem.
@rakaipikatan8922
@rakaipikatan8922 2 жыл бұрын
Life: Look how poor Brazil is O Cruzeiro: *Reverse uno card*
@Filmudo
@Filmudo 2 жыл бұрын
*Cruzeiro. Not Cruizero.
@thomassmith7884
@thomassmith7884 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t work
@nandwani88
@nandwani88 2 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome response by the Brazilian magazine. They did something I always felt American media deserved: a taste of their own medicine! Just epic!
@HelgaCavoli
@HelgaCavoli 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this should be the norm.
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson 2 жыл бұрын
Brazil had like 20x as many Poor people though
@solomonbristow7201
@solomonbristow7201 2 жыл бұрын
True
@Crystal14351
@Crystal14351 2 жыл бұрын
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson But the people there weren't poor simply because of the color of their skin
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crystal14351 nobody argued they were poor simply because of their skin color
@raphaeldecastropereira6987
@raphaeldecastropereira6987 2 жыл бұрын
it is a bit weird that you didn't mention the wave of american sponsored dictatorships in latin america at the time
@Jhawk_2k
@Jhawk_2k 2 жыл бұрын
That... Uh... Didn't happen ~The US Government
@Regimeshifts
@Regimeshifts 2 жыл бұрын
right, cricual part of that story beyond just magazines
@moosesandmeese969
@moosesandmeese969 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, including in Brazil itself, along with Argentina, Chile, and many others
@jakmanxyom
@jakmanxyom 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that would be too long and off course for this photography-centric series...maybe a story for another video or history series, perhaps.
@shalyfemusic
@shalyfemusic 2 жыл бұрын
As long as it benefits the US what do you expect
@ace.oneironaut
@ace.oneironaut 2 жыл бұрын
Social Media is doing this in a massive scale today yet we are unaware of it. Maybe Vox should do a video of such incidents in present day.
@kiaaa7330
@kiaaa7330 2 жыл бұрын
!!! all the instagram pastel background slides and twitter threads trying to break down complex issues spanning over years to a 10-13 line explanation frustrates me so much-
@michelmilaneh8963
@michelmilaneh8963 2 жыл бұрын
Palestinian isreal conflict
@user-mn2gt4ct3l
@user-mn2gt4ct3l 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelmilaneh8963 Or Israeli genocide on Palestinians
@Frost-bs6xr
@Frost-bs6xr 2 жыл бұрын
@❤️𝕄ℂ𝕌❤️ because the UN is controlled by rich countries, which all support israel
@michelmilaneh8963
@michelmilaneh8963 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-mn2gt4ct3l if isreals plan is genocide then they're doing a terrible job
@lassestorm1193
@lassestorm1193 2 жыл бұрын
They really pulled a “This you?” 60 years ago
@thalesspinolafernandes2204
@thalesspinolafernandes2204 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and have never heard of this story, thank you Vox team! Darkroom has been a great series, you're uncovering stories that haven't seen the light of day for a long time. Keep doing this great work!
@AshwinAjay
@AshwinAjay 2 жыл бұрын
It should be taught in schools that media on any form should be looked at with critical thinking on another level.
@ShadNex
@ShadNex 2 жыл бұрын
It is thought as school atleast in my school
@J.o.s.h.u.a.
@J.o.s.h.u.a. 2 жыл бұрын
It already is...
@l.o.v.edrive3466
@l.o.v.edrive3466 2 жыл бұрын
My school did it
@AshwinAjay
@AshwinAjay 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.o.v.edrive3466 good school....
@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy
@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m amused the Brazilians hit back. Lol 😂
@HelgaCavoli
@HelgaCavoli 2 жыл бұрын
As everyone should. Then maybe the USA would get a grip every once a while.
@delgermuruntsagaankhuu6951
@delgermuruntsagaankhuu6951 2 жыл бұрын
@@HelgaCavoli ever heard of brazils social inequalities? It stumps that of the us by 3-4 times I believe. What this news shows me is that alot of people living in rio didn’t want to be confronted by the state of life only a few miles from them, that goes for new yorkers too
@internetperson9813
@internetperson9813 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine saying that another country is ridden with poverty when your country can't afford to house 600,000 people even when there are already 1.7 million empty homes ready for the taking.
@shalyfemusic
@shalyfemusic 2 жыл бұрын
Cause they can't afford them. Houses are not free
@ChrisTian-yw7jc
@ChrisTian-yw7jc 2 жыл бұрын
@@shalyfemusic That's the principle of poverty.
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
Only 13.7% of americans live in poverty
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightmare1235 that is still 20-25 million people.
@dorottagati6883
@dorottagati6883 2 жыл бұрын
And 80% of people are malnourished
@arpitagrawal6125
@arpitagrawal6125 2 жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I can relate with the Brazilian response. Every second article about India that I read in a mainstream American newspaper/magazine/news portal is basically telling its American readers: "See how bad things are in India and you are lucky being an American."
@chandraprasad1244
@chandraprasad1244 2 жыл бұрын
That actually is true!!!
@ChernobylPone
@ChernobylPone 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed you are lucky to be in America, but if you’re black, LBGT, Hispanic/Latin, or Poor. Good luck.
@noelsmaison685
@noelsmaison685 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. Any country would be offended by such a depiction. Americans always try to find excuses to make themselves look grand and better than everyone else
@RyanGaming21
@RyanGaming21 2 жыл бұрын
ikr like American magazines always take bad photos of the middle east and say : "tHeY aRe oPrEsSeD lEtS fReE tHeM
@JD-ny3vz
@JD-ny3vz 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChernobylPone Also Indigenous
@hastania2238
@hastania2238 2 жыл бұрын
The US: produce a story on Brazil's poverty Brazil: travel to the US to do the same thing The US: *suprised pikachu face
@uncledrew2903
@uncledrew2903 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how Favio and his family are doing now. He's probably in his early 70s.
@SpiacyLos
@SpiacyLos 2 жыл бұрын
from the photos it seems they've brought him alone, without the rest of his family
@paradoxicalcitizen1139
@paradoxicalcitizen1139 2 жыл бұрын
flavio returned to Brazil after his asthma treatment and was soon eking out a living as a security guard. but in the end he was still poor in brazil. the last article of his i could find is a 1997 latimes article.
@amandadeoliveira2353
@amandadeoliveira2353 2 жыл бұрын
From what I was able to find online, he stayed 2 years in the US with an adoptive family for his treatment, but then they sent him back to Brazil to stay with his family. From the donations the magazine received his family was able to get a house but far from living a wealthy life still. Flavio went on to have multiple entry level jobs throughout his life. He still speaks good English which he learned during his time in Denver, and kept in touch with the photographer until he passed away.
@oliveranderson7264
@oliveranderson7264 2 жыл бұрын
As of 2019, he was still alive and turned 70. He was asked about that time in his life and said “It’s God’s choice. He made you the way you are. I am the way he wants me.”
@kk-hr9ls
@kk-hr9ls 2 жыл бұрын
@@amandadeoliveira2353 Until Flavio passed or until the photographer passed?
@peacewillow
@peacewillow 2 жыл бұрын
it both angers and saddens me to see poor people exploited like this. i hope both families were compensated for their public humiliation, but i'm so sure they were not. i'm glad flavio received the treatment he needed, but healing one child is not the same as solving the overall problem.
@doodskie999
@doodskie999 2 жыл бұрын
Usa: were taking you out from Brazil Brazil: No, we bring Brazil to you
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628 2 жыл бұрын
YOU. ARE. COMING. TO. BRAZIL.
@isabexiefromthehall
@isabexiefromthehall 2 жыл бұрын
The "Maybe it is the case of sending him to Brazil" is peak brazilian sarcasm, we do tent to truce with some humor embedded. Great episode!
@theepicfailguy127
@theepicfailguy127 2 жыл бұрын
No one could have ever thought that a video on these magazines can so terrifying
@jackohalloran1573
@jackohalloran1573 2 жыл бұрын
Yes darkroom this is definitely the best series
@SharibShams
@SharibShams 2 жыл бұрын
But borders was wayyyyyyyy better
@jackohalloran1573
@jackohalloran1573 2 жыл бұрын
@@SharibShams ya shame they cant do it for another year or so
@somedude0921
@somedude0921 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackohalloran1573 it got cancelled
@Campeon99
@Campeon99 2 жыл бұрын
@@somedude0921 by Twitter or by who?
@somedude0921
@somedude0921 2 жыл бұрын
@@Campeon99 the dude that was making it left or smth
@sahara-lu6eq
@sahara-lu6eq 2 жыл бұрын
can u do a video about American backed coups in Latin American countries as well as the role of American companies
@ghivifahmi4252
@ghivifahmi4252 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that where the term 'Banana Republic' came from?
@sahara-lu6eq
@sahara-lu6eq 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghivifahmi4252 yup it is , i wanna more in-depth video from vox plus other info about others countries in Latin America not just nigaragwa
@TVaz7777
@TVaz7777 2 жыл бұрын
Coup dEtat was a common thing in the 20th. Europe had much more coups than LA back then. You guys love to blame Americans for anything. Jesus!
@ghivifahmi4252
@ghivifahmi4252 2 жыл бұрын
@@TVaz7777 but corpo-sponsored coups is a uniquely US thing during early to mid 20th century
@herivelasquez6712
@herivelasquez6712 2 жыл бұрын
@@TVaz7777 wdym most of the coups in Latin America were orchestrated by the US, to protect their own economic intrest by using communism as a pretext to oust the current government
@afterbusters134
@afterbusters134 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : This is still the case today, especially in the hollywood movies.
@clarapilier
@clarapilier 2 жыл бұрын
Do one about the Condor Operation in Latin America.
@andi8460
@andi8460 2 жыл бұрын
US imperialism is awful😔
@post-leftluddite
@post-leftluddite 2 жыл бұрын
And all the other brutal regimes backed by the US in Latin America
@1nsaniel
@1nsaniel 2 жыл бұрын
This show is about photos not "US bad grrr"
@clarapilier
@clarapilier 2 жыл бұрын
@@1nsaniel True. But VOX channel is about many things, including "US bad," grrr
@HazhMcMoor
@HazhMcMoor 2 жыл бұрын
Is there photos about it? Maybe they can do something if there is.
@gerardopino5199
@gerardopino5199 2 жыл бұрын
this is why you are about to get to 10 Million subscribers, cheers from Bolivia.
@Captainsmalls1976
@Captainsmalls1976 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best topic in vox, vox darkroom is the best
@geraldescalante2577
@geraldescalante2577 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with all that Darkroom is the best series on Vox. Excellent production, interesting and important topics. The series should be included as a part of mandatory media literacy studies in high school. Keep up the good work!
@ladymonacoofthebluepacific2571
@ladymonacoofthebluepacific2571 2 жыл бұрын
As a Black man in the early 1960s, Gordon Parks had a really great job. How awesome was that! 😃
@joaoapresenta
@joaoapresenta 2 жыл бұрын
The magazine Cruzeiro belonged to the first media magnate in Brazil, Assis Chateaubriand (a Brazilian Kane) feared by politicians for his media and political influence. At the time of the dispute over the magazines, he supported the then president Jânio Quadros. There was an economic development policy in the country and part of that policy was the idea of ​​exporting an image of Brazil as the country of the future.
@HelgaCavoli
@HelgaCavoli 2 жыл бұрын
As any good media should promote. To attract investments and good trade deals.
@darwinqpenaflorida3797
@darwinqpenaflorida3797 27 күн бұрын
Assis was also owned Rede Tupi, the first TV channel in Latin America established in 1950 and defunct in 1980 when company’s problem and military regime revoked Rede Tupi’s license
@wooeo9962
@wooeo9962 2 жыл бұрын
Brazil just did a right back at cha' on lifes magazine
@-nyx-8850
@-nyx-8850 2 жыл бұрын
I'll take it you're also Brazilian, since you wrote it with 's' instead of 'z'.
@wooeo9962
@wooeo9962 2 жыл бұрын
@@-nyx-8850 oh shoot i mispelled it, sorry about the confusion lol
@theFLCLguy
@theFLCLguy 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between countries for the poor is very little. As a homeless man it doesn't feel like I live in America.
@jonirojonironin5353
@jonirojonironin5353 2 жыл бұрын
A homeless man in America can apparently access the internet and watch KZfaq. Not sure about a homeless man in other countries.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonirojonironin5353 libraries are a thing in many countries
@jonirojonironin5353
@jonirojonironin5353 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffersonclippership2588 Libraries aren't a thing in many countries as well.
@anhtunguyen781
@anhtunguyen781 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonirojonironin5353 yeah, not every where
@gabi.garcez
@gabi.garcez 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, the difference between countries for the poor is HUGE. Being homeless in the USA is NOT the same as being homeless in Brazil, or in Germany or any other country. Countries have different welfare policies and that plays a huge role into how “poor” people experience poverty. Unless you were a homeless person in Brazil to compare, please don’t say things you don’t understand.
@Sid-mj1qf
@Sid-mj1qf 2 жыл бұрын
Eventhough both sides didn't do justice to the principles of Journalism...I can understand the O Cruzerio's Side...These western countries left Africa, South America, India and many more in its most vulnerable state of economy, still has influence on them and the "restlessness" in these countries turns into profit for them, but in turn, labelled them as THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES exposing their poverty...Hypocrisy at its best and I forever hate western countries for colonialism🤦
@Penthai9
@Penthai9 2 жыл бұрын
Beside the always-well-chosen topics, I gotta say that the editing and backgroud music are always topnotch. Great work!
@noorsyed1860
@noorsyed1860 2 жыл бұрын
A taste of your own medicine. Impactful! People relate more based on their economic conditions than their nationality. Poor everywhere have it worst than rich anywhere.
@OLICIT
@OLICIT 2 жыл бұрын
The USA still has levels of poverty that left me shocked when I visited a few years ago
@fallingapart
@fallingapart 2 жыл бұрын
Side note: you can tell how there is a difference between their photography style, and it feels different from one another. And that’s cool
@Boon2Dock
@Boon2Dock 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the comments are riddled with the same type arguments that the magazines used, finger pointing and "get-back". They both used poverty to political ends instead of highlighting the roots of it. It was theatre, from Rio to New York.
@nishantshukla7255
@nishantshukla7255 2 жыл бұрын
If history lecture would be this interesting , I would never have missed a lecture in my lifetime.kudos to the efforts of vox team
@albear972
@albear972 2 жыл бұрын
California also had many immigrants from Oklahoma during the 1930's. The same way these immigrants from Puerto Rico moved to NY. A long way of saying that Puerto Ricans *are* U.S. citizens.
@sibsing8797
@sibsing8797 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for months for this! Best series on youtube ever!!
@jean6453
@jean6453 2 жыл бұрын
You laid this out very well. Very clear and easy to follow. Congratulations.
@uskro
@uskro 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for changing the title, wasn't captured by it initially, but the video was great, thank you!
@jennyone8829
@jennyone8829 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!!! Hugs❤️❤️❤️ was perfectly timed!
@pobblebonkk
@pobblebonkk 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to the photo exhibit here in Toronto, it was a really detailed and interesting experience. Exciting to see the story talked about here!
@minorcek
@minorcek 2 жыл бұрын
Its always about politics. Never about the actual meaning
@tomsouzas
@tomsouzas 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! Não conhecia essa história! Realmente, no guarda-roupa zoa brasileiro e fica impune!!!
@rodrigoborgneth
@rodrigoborgneth 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing story, I’m an Brazilian and I love you content.
@sanketsudke2617
@sanketsudke2617 2 жыл бұрын
BBC creates such documentaries/photos etc... about India all the time. I hope one day we too respond like the Brazilians.
@wa77iok20
@wa77iok20 2 жыл бұрын
I just binge watched the Darkroom series and I am blown away. Thank you for doing this and I can't wait to see more!
@kakalimukherjee3297
@kakalimukherjee3297 2 жыл бұрын
My respect for Brazil goes stonks 📈📈📈
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
My respect for Brazil will 📈 when people are lifted out of favelas and poverty is below 20%
@vidal000
@vidal000 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightmare1235 you really dont know whats happening in brazil '-'
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@vidal000 Covid crisis, crime, and poverty.
@PussyCruiser
@PussyCruiser Жыл бұрын
To brag about the country while ignoring the problems is very popular in Brasil.
@advicarvalho
@advicarvalho 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Congratulations!
@johnversosas8298
@johnversosas8298 2 жыл бұрын
My goodness. I haven't heard of this. This should be called the Magazine War of Cold War.
@josearturcraquer9981
@josearturcraquer9981 Жыл бұрын
Americans in the comments "but Brazil is poorer", we're not saying we aren't. We are saying that you paint life in US as the greatest, when it's not, and most important, when it''s not for everyone. You're so proud to be a developed country, yet you're the most unequal one. A country that has the best universities and hospitals in the world, and people can't afford to use these services. I'm not denying the hunger, the mass imigration or any other of my country problems, I'm saying self criticism and awareness of your reality is nice sometimes.
@marcogallo2811
@marcogallo2811 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Interesting to see two publications go after each other like that during that time.
@meowmeow7635
@meowmeow7635 2 жыл бұрын
wow. this is interesting! great job for putting this one!
@ronandoare
@ronandoare 2 жыл бұрын
French, I'm working by your videos my english practice. Thanks a lot for the quality and the so much various sugbects.
@jewris.art11
@jewris.art11 2 жыл бұрын
All I can say wow credits to the Photographers
@Courtland3958
@Courtland3958 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this! So informative!
@tomastapia8078
@tomastapia8078 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!! thanks for sharing!!!
@vastpeople9623
@vastpeople9623 2 жыл бұрын
Mesmerizing as always, keep up the great work.
@ThomasZadro
@ThomasZadro 2 жыл бұрын
Brazil has a long history of paying back to the US. One might find this childish, but when the US introduced a new policy, taking photos from every traveler entering the country, I laughed my aas of, seeing in Sao Paulo three lines for emigration: Brazilian, Rest of the World, US. Just guess, in which line photos were taken ;-)
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE 2 жыл бұрын
Brazil always did that when it came to travelers, it had a reciprocal policy. This only changed recently with bootlicker Bolsonaro
@renatocuri5105
@renatocuri5105 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a video. I am brazilian and i know a lot about the history of "O Cruzeiro", but I didnt knew this one. I must say that besids i do not agree with the channel opinion in some videos, i must that this is one of the best in the internet.
@worldwidewurfgmng4413
@worldwidewurfgmng4413 2 жыл бұрын
Brazilian Magazine : Uno reverse.
@rafamds27
@rafamds27 2 жыл бұрын
QUE VÍDEO SENSACIONAL, PARABÉNS! 🇧🇷
@gemmeldrakes2758
@gemmeldrakes2758 Жыл бұрын
Historically, this was a problem in Latin America and the Caribbean. Someone from outside, usually from the US or Europe would highlight one of our besetting problems, like poverty or corruption, and we would react. Not with introspection and attempts to improve, but with an anger born largely of embarrassment. So we engaged in "whataboutism" highlighting the failures of foreign socities, to show they were no better than us. We demanded that our best features be displayed to the world, not our worst, but made little effort to really work on improving things. Thankfully that has changed somewhat, but not everywhere.
@1966bluemax
@1966bluemax Жыл бұрын
Same problem with the Philippines. Instead of fixing the problem, it’s just all you hurt our pride
@mindtheprivacy
@mindtheprivacy 2 жыл бұрын
Great journalism. Thanks.
@manooxi327
@manooxi327 2 жыл бұрын
tnx great stuff
@cinderdork
@cinderdork 2 жыл бұрын
this is so well done, bravo
@dubalakubaku
@dubalakubaku 2 жыл бұрын
Much love from Brasil
@DaGhost141
@DaGhost141 2 жыл бұрын
Darkroom is probably my favorite Vox series, and that's a high bar.
@MeganthaLion
@MeganthaLion 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. I love this channel.
@kiranalexander8846
@kiranalexander8846 Жыл бұрын
I studied Parks in my first year at Uni, and he's an incredible photographer and storyteller. I love his images, and especially in this context, I think it's important to remember that the words are not hs, but the editors, and that he also photographed the poor and needy in America, as well as other places. I do also want to say that Ballot's images are similarly moving, I think there is a place to show the struggles of people everywhere, and you don't have to do this all at the same time.
@fabioprestel
@fabioprestel 2 жыл бұрын
I was shocked to see a part of our history through this episode. It was as usual an untouchable work, but also a way to show politics as it really seems. Congratulations, again.
@josephcapturesofficial
@josephcapturesofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Super well done 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@atharvpande4071
@atharvpande4071 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@Kylefassbinderful
@Kylefassbinderful 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, great piece. But it's incredibly short. This should be an hour long at least, just my opinion.
@CarlEuegene
@CarlEuegene 2 жыл бұрын
This video was awesome.💛💛💛
@damongraham1398
@damongraham1398 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to both families? Anyone else curious about them?
@letuswrap
@letuswrap 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss where's Flavio today?
@paradoxicalcitizen1139
@paradoxicalcitizen1139 2 жыл бұрын
@@letuswrap flavio returned to Brazil after his asthma treatment and was soon eking out a living as a security guard. but in the end he was still poor in brazil. the last article of his i could find is a 1997 latimes article
@maximuller6059
@maximuller6059 2 жыл бұрын
Really good Video!
@Grantonioful
@Grantonioful 2 жыл бұрын
I mean... That was a good way to hit back! Smart thinking imo
@bingograffiti
@bingograffiti 2 жыл бұрын
Despite the exploitation of the subjects, both photographers were awesome! Alguém sabe mais sobre o fotógrafo da Cruzeiro?
@yashas1783
@yashas1783 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for about 2 weeks for Vox's new video
@Incognegrorn
@Incognegrorn 2 жыл бұрын
America: Destroys the continent America: look how poor they are!
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
So Spain and Portugal didn’t hurt Latin America?
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628
@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightmare1235 esos idiotas metieron la esclavitud y el imperialismo temprano.
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@guillermodavidgarcia-rodri1628 They did, but why blame the US for latin america’s current problems instead of their own politicians?
@vidal000
@vidal000 2 жыл бұрын
@@knightmare1235 you say that like if the us dont have any fault in the latin american situation,
@knightmare1235
@knightmare1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@vidal000 They have done little damage to latin america compared to rebel groups in latin america funded by the USSR.
@bryandai74
@bryandai74 2 жыл бұрын
Amazoing vid well worked
@Kelz_X
@Kelz_X 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving the warning shot/ Clap-back at the end. Great job
@pritamptr662
@pritamptr662 2 жыл бұрын
This way western countries show India as a poor country. Of course poverty is a huge problem. But there are bright sides too but they will not highlight those.
@waltero.8957
@waltero.8957 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and story. Being from Latin America, from my perspective I feel like a little more could be said about how the media weaponizes the good will of american progressives and liberals to "help" countries in the second and third world via policies that end up hurting those countries. As it is I feel like the video equates a little too much both magazines, and I feel like O Cruzeiro approach was quite effective. Both conservatives and liberals in the US understand the second and third world as poverty-ridden and destitute while ignoring a lot of american people and towns that have the exact same problem (although from what I gathered this blindness to the problem has started to go away in the last few years). In Latin America is still very much an open discussion and in general we react in pretty much the same way as O Cruzeiro did, we find the attitude of american progressives a tad too paternalistic and patronizing when it comes to this subject. Again, I still think this was a great video. Love this series.
@Ammon6
@Ammon6 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one!
@VK-pn6rg
@VK-pn6rg 2 жыл бұрын
I really love Vox Darkroom- it's my favourite series - please never stop making these amazing analyses :D
@navigation4653
@navigation4653 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what great topic and a great way to tell the story. Thank you Vox
@MollyKillers
@MollyKillers 2 жыл бұрын
Vox, darkroom is one of the best things you guys make! I always learn so much! Thank you!
@ShreenathTewari
@ShreenathTewari 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work
@TECHDOABLES
@TECHDOABLES 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work
@TheDancingRomeo
@TheDancingRomeo Жыл бұрын
Ive been to Cuba, and its very obvious which way of life socially and economically was and is more desirable, its a given.
@mrjamesbudd
@mrjamesbudd 2 жыл бұрын
excellent episode
@MrMman30
@MrMman30 2 жыл бұрын
And the poor just kept getting poorer in the Americas... While the rich kept feeling good about themselves donating to a token foreign child, while denying poverty at home... No wonder the initiative (or any intiative not addressing poverty directly) failed.
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