This and That: 2022 Grand Prix de France, Jason Brown, Kamila Valieva

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This week, Jason Brown announced that he will compete at the 2023 U.S. Figure Skating Championships. Loena Hendrickx, Yelim Kim, Adam Siao, Him Fa, Deanna Stellato and Maxime Deschamps, Charlène Guignard and Marco Fabbri, Kazuki Tomono, Laurence Fournier Beaudry and Nikolaj Sørensen, Sota Yamamoto and Si-hyeong Lee headlined the 2022 Grand Prix de France. Kamila Valieva, Evgenia Tarasova and Vladimir Morozov and Annabelle Morozov and David Naryzhnyy led the third stage of the Russian Grand Prix. We break it all down on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
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@shomaunofan8486 Жыл бұрын

Timestamp 1:35 - Jason Brown announced he will compete in US National 9:50 Cricket Club - now have Jun, Rika, Jason, and Boyang Jin. 11:12 US Men 3 Spot outside of Ilia 12:36 mens field - not noticing absence of Russian (side conv of Russian Men in Russian GP) ** GP France ** Men Event - 13:32 Adam Siao Him Fa - 18:27 Sota Yamamoto + Sihyeong Lee - 19:10 Junwa Cha vs Sihyeong Lee - 19:29 Sota Yamamoto - 21:18 Sota vs Kizuki Tomono 27:03 Women’s Event - 27:33 complaints about the ice condition - 30:14 Loena Hendrickx - 30:42 Yelim Kim - 31:05 Back to Loena - 33:13 back to Yelim - 36:37 Haein Lee + Rion Sumiyoshi - 36:53 Audrey Shin - (Side conversations: - 38:04 3rd GP always weakest event - 38:41 Cheerleaders in GP - 39:01 Holiday plans/talk - ) Pairs Event - 42:24 Deanna Stellato-Dudek/Max Deschamps - 44:29 Danny O’Shea + his new partner - BYE to US National - 44:58 Georgian Pairs (Karina Safina / Luka Berulava) - 45:40 their Russian coach (banning Russian Athletes but not Russian Coaches) - 46:33 Morisi Kvitelashvili - 50:32 Daria Usacheva - 52:36 back to Deanna/Max - 53:39 Julianne Seguin article about concussion - 55:42 back to Deanna/Max 56:45 Ice Dance - 56:58 proximity of scores between Italian and Canadians (Guignard/Fabbri and Fournier Beaudry/Soerense) - 57:44 Guignard/Fabbri - 59:39 3 leading teams: Chock/Bates, Gilles/Poirier, and Guignard/Fabbri - 1:01:54 who will move up after those top 3 teams retire - 1:02:31 Papadakis/Cizeron coming back? - 1:03:19 Annabelle Morozov (Russian GP) with new partner - and possibly to represent France - 1:06:16 Diana Davis/Gleb Smolkin - 1:07:17 Green/Parson - 1:09:13 Hawayeh/Baker Russian GP - 1:10:24 Tarasova/Morozov - 1:11:02 Valieva 1:16:39 Moment of the week

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

They are so thorough and must have taken lots effort. Thank you 🙏

@trylogic4084 Жыл бұрын

Yes it's controversial, but I just wanted to point out that at the Olympics Jason scored over 14 men jumping quads. He finished in sixth place with no quads. Ilia was inconsistent at that time, Jason was not.

@zackwilson8701 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. And in hindsight, knowing how Jason performed at the Olympics and how Ilia performed at World's, it's clear that Jason was the right choice for the Olympic team, not Ilia. If Ilia's team had wanted to position him for the Olympic team, then they needed to give him senior level international experience that year on the Grand Prix. That said, I'm so excited for Ilia going forward and I hope that his team can keep him healthy for the next Olympic cycle or two. He's a really hard worker and seems like a nice kid! What he's capable of is limitless.

@IsabellaVerandez Жыл бұрын

@@zackwilson8701 Not arguing for or against whether the decision by USFS was correct (I think overall, Jason was the correct choice and USFSA was pretty transparent about body of work being very important, and Jason made the (eventually cancelled) GP Final that fall), but it was not Ilia's team who made the decision not to send him to the GP. USFSA assigned Ilia to the Junior Grand Prix circuit and not the Grand Prix circuit. You get JGP and GP assignments from your federation. And frankly, Ilia was still stabilizing his quads in the summer/fall of 2021, so he could make a much bigger splash on the JGP than as a newcomer on the GP circuit, which he did: he won two golds on the JGP and made a name for himself that fall already which would not have happened had he been assigned to the Grand Prix.

@zackwilson8701 Жыл бұрын

@@IsabellaVerandez Agreed. Just out of curiosity, do you think Ilia could have handled competing in the JGP and the GP simultaneously? Should that US fed have encouraged Ilia to have done both? I tend to think that Ilia is still maturing as a skater and that he just needs time. It seems a bit premature to put all this pressure on him or score him as if he's the next Nathan, Yuzu, or even Shoma. I want him to take it slow and play the long game, and to not get hurt.

@IsabellaVerandez Жыл бұрын

@Zack Wilson, I think skaters can only get assigned to either the JGP or the GP. They cannot get assigned to both. If they could have (and hypothetically assuming tech mins had been met for the GP), I’m sure the Italian Fed would have assigned poor Nikolaj Memola to the GP as well, given that they are making him compete at so many Senior Bs after his JGP assignments, lol. But a skater cannot have assignments at both in the same season. Ilia did have a senior B at Cup of Austria last year. With Ilia, I’m not surprised he’s being scored the way he is: on top of the ISU needing star power, the kid jumps a quad axel. I agree with you: I don’t think he should be scored that way, for sure. He’s crazy talented and very ambitious, obviously. I want his talent to be sustained in longevity more than anything else. At the same time, his parents could be pacing him just fine, it’s really hard to tell at this point. He’s obviously very competitive based on BV alone and in the current scoring system, but yeah, his scores are… very high, especially given that the only people to score a higher fs than what he posted at SkAm in the current scoring system are Nathan, Yuzuru, Shoma, Yuma, and Vincent, which is crazy. Anyway I just hope his team is pacing him properly. He’s very talented, and we want to see him skate competitively for many years.

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

Haven't watched the video yet, but are people still debating on this about who should have gone to the Olympic?

@annmanning524 Жыл бұрын

Jason would be a fantastic mentor for other skaters when he decides to retire. He has a unique way of being positive and friendly to everyone. He knows everything they will all need to do. USFS should hire him.

@janvdb9258 Жыл бұрын

Always prefer to see his skating

@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын

Why? He has the emotional maturity of a 12 year old.

@trylogic4084 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesyu5212 Do you know him personally?

@lyramusica4485 Жыл бұрын

He would also make an amazing choreographer! The short program he made for Daniel this season was really impressive! It showed a more artistic side of Daniel that we don't normally see with him (with Daniel being more of a jumper).

@ericachang4752 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesyu5212 And you have the rudeness of a 10? Insulting someone you know almost nothing about is despicable. Your mom should give you a slap in the face.

@ColonelGreen Жыл бұрын

The most entertaining moment of the competition was Kim Ye-lim's reaction to her free skate score and overall placement.

@reneecarlson1784 Жыл бұрын

So happy to see Jason continue to skate competitively, he brings magic to programs and never looks like he "checks elements off" - he is amazing!

@Cheetahviper Жыл бұрын

Leona getting a birthday cake and the audience singing was a highlight for me

@pinky-zu3qv Жыл бұрын

If you go with an artificial tree, you can always diffuse pine essential oil in a cheap scent diffuser. As a Canadian who grew up with real trees every year growing up, I tried this last year and it really created a nice nostalgic ambiance.

@johnnyboy2627 Жыл бұрын

My moment of the week was Veronika Yametova’s SP. It was a firecracker of a performance. Best SP of the season IMO. Also Kseniia Sinitsyna’s elegant and beautiful programs are always enjoyable to watch.

@annahamilton4235 Жыл бұрын

Totally! Veronika is such a burst of positive energy. And Ksenia’s short - with a beautiful Tchaikovsky’s interpretation - was another jewel.

@verpal7920 Жыл бұрын

Sinitsyna is not in the top of Russian skaters, cause she doesn't have ultra C etc., but I was looking forward to her comeback so much, she really deserves the attention

@user-gg9uu9kx9w Жыл бұрын

those yametova and sinitsyna “skaters” will be either escorting for old men in turkey/UAE or passed away from anaboIic roid overuse within 5 years why are people even paying attention to these wastes of air

@mihaillenivov485 Жыл бұрын

@@annahamilton4235 Yes, Veronika is really something, the words for her in comments - storm, fire, power, sunny. She is on the rise right now.

@lyramusica4485 Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree that Morisi shouldn't be allowed to compete for skating in pro-war Navka shows. It is honestly so disrespectful to the Ukrainian skaters to be letting him compete. Ivan Schmuratko, himself, (who is living through these horrors of war and has family still in Ukraine) has gone on record to say that Morisi should be banned for supporting the genocide of his people.

@catherinemcgill3004 Жыл бұрын

Regarding the Italians height difference, I heard ice dance coach Carol Lane commenting on CBC at Worlds that they are actually close in height but he looks smaller due to his deeper edges. I thought it was interesting insight. Watching them skate I see her point.

@chrisjacobsen5558 Жыл бұрын

“Let the technique be the artistry” speaks sooooo deeply to my sensibility.

@marseillais2687 Жыл бұрын

This is the first time since 1998 that there are French skaters on 3 of the 4 podiums at a GP event. 🇫🇷

@airgelaal Жыл бұрын

Yelim reminds me of Boyang. He was known as a jumper and now, even though it has improved a lot, the scores for the components do not reflect this. Only Trusova could get great components for nothing.

@rev_ava Жыл бұрын

Ja and a a while before we have the the first day to work with us to to find a way that can 88 make the best decision to get your

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

I like the jab at Trusova getting pcs for basically no improvements. Yelim has good components except presentation until recent seasons where she becomes more open and connected with the music. Same as Young you (not in france gp), her present on ice has improved dramatically yet not reflected in pcs boost at all

@emilymcmahon2670 Жыл бұрын

What a lovely surprise to open youtube and see the new this and that posted so early. TSL sundays are like football sundays for skating fans. thank you!!

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

@virginiana3783 Жыл бұрын

Except they lack the gratuitous violence!

@evanperilstein5308 Жыл бұрын

Jonathan said Loena’s programs lack details, but even though her choreography and music selections aren’t always the best and a bit on the tacky side sometimes, her programs actually have a ton of transitions. Except for the entrances to her 3Lz+3T, every single one of her jumps and spins has transitions going in and out of it.

@charlotteantonia3906 Жыл бұрын

I love her choreography too!

@vistaprime Жыл бұрын

@@charlotteantonia3906 me three.

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

Well said, imo her programs this season is one of the more packed program with transitions. I'd say she doesn't take lightly after winning silver at Worlds and she's trying to get better. Like putting combo at the 2nd half of the SP

@maryloureiff6489 Жыл бұрын

"A bit of a Hughes sister.." dying

@Julia-js7bs Жыл бұрын

Agreed, Yelim Kim was underscored. The Korean Fed needs to up their game for their skaters. Yelim has one of my favourite SP this season, her jumps are so strong and her Ina Bauer is to die for! Obviously, big fan of Loena. She is defintely a performer and a joy to watch. But her skating is a little less refined than some others imo. I also enjoyed Mana Kawabe's SP (yes, I'm a sucker for a Billie Eilish lol).

@purpleskittle2463 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed Yelim’s Gala program. Nice to see her lighten up and show her fun side.

@isabellao18 Жыл бұрын

I just don't get why Hubbell/Donahue didn't want to stick it out for one more year. They would unquestionably be the world champions. They always wanted to be on top of the world and now that opportunity is right here and they want nothing to do with it... very odd.

@asaragena Жыл бұрын

Zach just got married and Madison will be getting married soon. They want to spend more time with their significant others. 🥰

@ears4days Жыл бұрын

As Dave mentioned, nowadays income opportunities in figure skating are limited, even for Olympic gold medalists (P/C). Hubbell and Donohue already beat the top teams left in the field, they have nothing to prove. They are Olympic medalists, a World title is not going to raise their profile or earning power, especially when another season would require investing time, money and effort that they can put toward furthering other aspects of their lives.

@quintupleaxel Жыл бұрын

Competition isn't the be all and end all. They have lives outside of it. Maybe world gold doesn't really matter to them all that much now.

@isabellaverandez172 Жыл бұрын

Love Kazuki, but it's going to be very difficult for him to make the Worlds team. Even if Yuma is not healthy by JNats, which is a big if, Kazuki is up against Kao, Sota, and potentially Shun, whom we are going to see for the first time this season at Sheffield, assuming that Shoma is locked in for the spots. Like Kao, Shun could really be a surprise this GP circuit. We also haven't yet seen reigning Junior Worlds bronze medalist, Tatsuya Tsuboi who will be at Sheffield and Espoo. The Japanese Federation places a huge emphasis on Nationals placements, but based on what we're seeing this season already and the incredible depth of the Japanese men, I really think it's going to be tough for Kazuki to get the big international assignments in the latter part of this season. I really want the big assignments for him, though, so hoping for the best for him.

@andreagoldstein4070 Жыл бұрын

I think Jason could easily make the podium in San Jose. Even quadless, his PCS will be through the roof. So happy for Queen Deanna and Maxime making the GPF. Those bruises she posted looked painful. Hope she has plenty of arnica on hand.

@debbied2715 Жыл бұрын

Yikes, I really wondered how she was after brutal looking falls! I don't follow her on social

@lyramusica4485 Жыл бұрын

The Georgian pair team has actually relocated from Russia, according to their ISU profile, apparently they are now training in Germany with Alexander Köenig (Aliona Savchenko's former coach) but it does seem as though they were coming from Russia at that event since they were with Dudakov (they have Dani G. and Eteri listed as their choreographers so they must also train at Sambo 70). My heart absolutely broke for Karina, she looked like she was in SO MUCH pain throughout the performances and looked absolutely devastated after the FS. Really, what the hell was the Georgian Federation thinking by allowing her to compete in that condition? The pair are potential world medal contenders and making Karina perform while not recovered from a serious injury will only hurt their chances. It honestly feels like such an Eteri move to make a young girl skate while injured. Dudakov looked so cold towards her which I HATED. I'm glad at least Luka was comforting her and didn't put her down or anything.

@quintupleaxel Жыл бұрын

If she was foolish enough to attempt to compete in that state her partner should've refused. Men in Pairs teams are meant to look after their partner's safety which he did not do.

@lyramusica4485 Жыл бұрын

@@quintupleaxel While that may be true, you also have to consider the power that their Federation has in the decision for them to compete. At the 2013 Worlds, the Chinese Federation was so desperate to get 3 spots for the Olympics in pairs that they forced Wenjing Sui to compete at those Worlds even though she had a serious leg injury and could hardly walk (she literally collapsed at the end of their FP). Or there's also the Korean Skating Union, whom make their skaters compete at NUMEROUS competitions throughout the season even if they're tired out by the end of it (ex: just this week, a Korean domestic competition was held to determine who will compete at 4CC within days of the GPF, which 4 of their female skaters are assigned to compete at). I think that the Georgian Federation wanted a spot at the GPF so bad that they sent Safina/Beruluva to skate at GP de France.

@quintupleaxel Жыл бұрын

@@lyramusica4485 i don't think Georgian skating fed would have the power of the Chinese state though or care all that much by comparison really. I think they may have wanted to compete due to funding/prize money issues and so made a bad decision. Of course, who they were with in the kiss & cry likely played a part in that decision. I can't really imagine a man from a Pair team coached by Moskvina or Mozer willingly competing with a partner in that condition (i know many teams compete injured but she was medically incapable of a FS). The ISU should have medics at competitions who have the power to overrule athletes/coaches in this.

@NG-ue4th Жыл бұрын

Shoutout to the frenchman who did his speech to Cardi b's I like it (that too the uncensored version). What a legend. As well as when mark hanretty was reading out Lopareva's isu bio. French skaters are truly the gift that keeps on giving .

@NG-ue4th Жыл бұрын

*sp

@karlauminga6404 Жыл бұрын

That's Luc Ecomides and his coach Florent Amodio.

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

What did he say about her bio? I missed that bit!

@Violet-xk5ud Жыл бұрын

that's such an amazing point we don't know her personality! We know Anna is intelligent, Sasha is extremely determined and Alena is rebellious and loves to put on a show. I hope we get to see more of who Kamila really is.

@grisgris6908 Жыл бұрын

So satisfying to see Queen Deanna get her flowers finally, so here for it. Loved Adam Siao Him Fa, and while I love love Loena I thought she was a bit overscored. Why are the Korean women getting so dreadfully underscored?!

@etherealtb6021 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that with a skater (Adam) that has no flaws to cover up, I didn't hate the Benoit choreo!

@topicdel Жыл бұрын

this was such an informative recap! Agree with comments about Yelim - loved her! Thanks Dave and Jonathan 💕

@trylogic4084 Жыл бұрын

I loved Adam's performances, too, but in regards to him finishing really well and maybe making the GPF, he's going to have a tough time of it. They have him at NHK, with Matteo Rizzo, Tomono, Shoma, Sota, and Junhwan.

@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын

If Adam finishes on the podium at NHK he will likely make the gpf. I think even with Shoma being the fave, Adam could definitely podium. He's been the most consistent recently.

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

@@lollypop2414 he doesn't need to be on the podium iirc. He needs to finish at least 4th to qualify

@zackwilson8701 Жыл бұрын

I'm happy for Adam, but I'm hoping Jun will get the silver at NHK and have a high enough combined score to where he's able to qualify for the GPF. Last season he was so close to breaking 100 in the short program and being in the conversation to podium. Adam is a bit frantic in his skating, and while his programs are definitely exciting, some of his movements are so unaesthetic compared to Jun and Shoma. We'll see what happens! I almost wish we could just skip the competition in England lol

@trylogic4084 Жыл бұрын

Okay, I agree that Yelim has what I would call finer technique then Loena, but Yelim didn't make "little mistakes". She fell twice in the fs. She didn't have a triple triple because of that. I'm confused by your comments. Where would you take points away from Loena and where would you add them for Yelim? I wanted to see where Yelim had the detail in her program that you feel that Loena doesn't, and I've decided that overall, I agree. But I think that because Loena was skating faster to more dramatic music, there doesn't seem to be as much opportunity to show small, graceful hand/arm/shoulder movements, etc.

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

I couldn't find a way to put Yelim above Loena with 2 falls in the SP. However I would argue that her SP pcs is way too low for her quality. Imo yelim has the best lines and posture out of currently competing women.

@charlotteantonia3906 Жыл бұрын

Idk why people are hating on Loena! I don’t think she was overscored at all! She is the best performer and has good technic! Not even Kaori can perform as good as Loena! But people are always hating on those who were successful last season. But yet they hate on the russians for having a new star every season… make it make sense!

@janicehill5175 Жыл бұрын

I've been wondering about the use of "Indian summer" too. Here are other terms that I copied: The term is most often heard in the northeastern United States, but its usage extends throughout English- speaking countries. It dates back at least to 1778, but its origin is not certain; the most probable suggestions relate it to the way that the American Indians availed themselves of this extra opportunity to increase their winter stores. The comparable period in Europe is termed the Old Wives' summer, and, poetically, may be referred to as halcyon days. In England, dependent upon dates of occurrence, such a period may be called St. Martin's summer, St. Luke's summer, and formerly All-hallown summer.

@elizabethlockhart8044 Жыл бұрын

I love your thoughtfulness around the artistry/technique dichotomy. Ilia's Quad Axel is truly one of the most beautiful things ever in figure skating and yet so is Jason's Sinnerman.

@susanfoss3599 Жыл бұрын

Love this comment! So true…doesn’t have to be either/or. We can love both!

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

Though currently ISU don't recognize such dichotomy. As long as the jumps are landed and you're faves of your fed, component scores will rise eventually.

@MsTeach3 Жыл бұрын

Dave, 💯 agree with you on Kazuki. La La was one of my favorite programs of last season and such a perfect vehicle for him. This season’s free is kind of cute, but yes a bit frantic and too similar to his short.

@davidfaz2435 Жыл бұрын

I totally felt Yelim was underscored, pretty close performance for Yelim and Loena but distant score.

@hannarubin962 Жыл бұрын

Favorite time of my week! watching this and that and drinking tea. Always so entertaining ❤

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@hellsbellsmichelle Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I'm doing. Newby Silken Princess Chamomile for me.

@101cloverdale Жыл бұрын

Again I don't think Karen Preston gets enough credit for coaching Jason.. Would be nice to hear her mentioned a little bit more

@hellsbellsmichelle Жыл бұрын

OMG - I love the way you say the "fake event in Russia". How many gaslighters are gonna jump on that?

@riveroak-dp8gt Жыл бұрын

That whole Valieva FS gets cheesier each time and seems like acting out a very twisted biopic fantasy 😅🙈

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 Жыл бұрын

I’ve always wondered about the ice conditions in terms of the safety of the skaters. There were more unexpected weird falls than usual at this event and I know it’s been an on going situations at the Olympics when figure skaters share the same ice as the short track skaters who prefer the opposite condition from figure skating. It’s just baffling (but not surprising) to me that rather than being concerned about the safeties of the athletes the athletes are just told to suck it up…

@SunflowerCat333 Жыл бұрын

Exactly! You wouldn’t see an NFL football field with a bunch of holes in it! Proper ice quality is critical to the performance and safety of these athletes. In particular, the temperature of proper figure skating ice is slightly warmer so ice is a little softer than hockey ice. Hockey ice is colder and harder.

@anthonydolio8118 Жыл бұрын

I was under the incorrect impression that the Russian judges were official members of some type of Russian Federation and, thus, banned regardless of who they coached. Obviously that is wrong because we had the Russian judge in France. I thought it made things a bit uncomfortable with the Ukrainian athletes in France.

@johnseals1986 Жыл бұрын

Been waiting all morning for this! 😃

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

@johnseals1986 Жыл бұрын

Always do!

@maryloureiff6489 Жыл бұрын

Kazuki went to different boots..do not know if that is the issue..He landed a beauty of a 3 ax in the ex..I don't know..but I still would rather watch him than almost anyone else..

@doctorjames7454 Жыл бұрын

Dave, off topic but... I LOVE that picture of Amsterdam behind you!

@keithh2028 Жыл бұрын

Take away the quads and Jason Brown is the best skater on the planet. He's still that good.

@aspen327 Жыл бұрын

Yes, take away quad Jason might be the best But do we want to slow down the process of a sport. Ten years ago Jason might had been Olympic champion. I still think Nathan would be up there with him. He to much of a competitive person. He just humble about it. He would have work on his artistic , flexible ability etc. don’t get me wrong. Jason is a beautiful skater but sometimes I feel like Nathan jumps are not appreciated. He makes it look so easy , we forget how difficult the quad jumps can be. Johnny Weir said it best. The skater that can combine jumps and artistic sides should be the winner. Jason would have beaten Nathan if he could at least do two quads in each program.

@keithh2028 Жыл бұрын

@@aspen327 I guess that's the point. If the judging system were evenly distributed between the technical side and the artistic side, maybe Jason would've had a chance to win more, but that isn't how the scoring system current leans towards. It rewards technical ability far more than the artistic side. It isn't balanced unfortunately.

@Jeremy-wp4yh Жыл бұрын

I love that it's early.

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

@maria375s Жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to watch!

@ckilbarger01 Жыл бұрын

I do notice the lack of Russian ladies but not in a bad way. IMO I feel all these ladies who were doing great things but were being overshadowed by the quad squad are finally getting the medals they deserve The pairs is where I miss Russia and China. They were the ones doing big things, not always the most artistic but that's not what pairs is about IMO.

@dkeinow Жыл бұрын

I had to listen again right after the premiere

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@BillyWhaler Жыл бұрын

Peacock’s interest in skating has aged like bad milk from a dying cow. If no archives, then allow pausing during live events, and if not that at least post “correct” live event start times consistently.

@kellycommentates768 Жыл бұрын

Watching an exciting weekend of skating and capping it off on a cozy Sunday with a candle, good cup of coffee, and This & That playing, really makes the Fall season so worth it. Appreciate your consistent uploads and love of skating! You are pillars in the community.

@matthewhines9787 Жыл бұрын

Dave- "I'm a speeder upper." The skating world- "we're shocked, Dave...shocked"

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@shantarakelian1998 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave!

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@TheDivayenta Жыл бұрын

You two are a gift! I’m wondering- is there any medium I can watch skating on besides Peacock? That I can record or that streams constantly?

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

Isu you tube channel. Watch via a vpn as it’s blocked in some countries. Cbc sports app in Canada has the events too. I don’t know how long bath keep them for

@matthewchoi7022 Жыл бұрын

28:01 Loena’s mental game + ice problems 30:38 Yelim kim

@tomkroh2712 Жыл бұрын

TSL Ru is the future! Love it, Dave!🤗😂

@Bnizzofashizzo Жыл бұрын

Jonathan: all these sorts of things 😂😂😂😂

@trylogic4084 Жыл бұрын

The ISU is now only posting the 6 top free skates in each category. The full short program is there, as well as the top skaters' programs separated out, but we can no longer see the bottom six free skates. I would like to know what the hell. Why is it always something? Why are we always denied something? Frustrated here.

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 Жыл бұрын

The video uploading was kind of a mess at this event. They uploaded the Georgian pair’s video for the French pair team 🤦‍♀️

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

The videos were all over the place on isu KZfaq feed/ home page . I couldn’t find stuff. It’s best to just use the search terms. Like Angers womens free and find it that way.

@meredith7299 Жыл бұрын

I kind of wish Chock and Bates would go back to the Elvis FD program from 2019, just update it a little for the new elements. That program was amazing.

@strawberrylime33 Жыл бұрын

Is it bad that I'm one of the few who don't mind chock bates free dance this season? 😬😬😬 I don't think it's horrendous at all. But yes, I love the 2019 free dance a lot more.

@meredith7299 Жыл бұрын

I agree! I don't think it's bad, really. I just don't think it's among their top few programs, and I didn't feel like their Elvis FD really got its day in the sun. :-)

@TheProdef Жыл бұрын

I agree, Yelim deserved a 7x in the short. I think Rion has great potential, her free program can be fire once she goes clean and lands that absolutely huge 4T.

@stitchergirlstitches Жыл бұрын

If you base things on scores for this new season, the Italians, Gillis/Poirier and Fear/Gibson are the top Dance Teams at the moment.

@lucy-tf7pz Жыл бұрын

I think you guys are spot-on in your assessment of Valieva, and I think she's just as enigmatic to the Russian public. We know who Trusova and Shcherbakova are. They have obvious personalities, they do interviews, they go on shows, etc. Kamila, not so much. Since Beijing, she's been Russia's golden girl at home, the victim of a Western conspiracy, a fragile innocent poster girl for Russian nationalism (much easier to support than a war; there's some brilliant political maneuvering happening here), etc. The media coverage of her--interviews, articles, the Channel One specials--don't tell us who she is, and it kind of doesn't matter. She's forever going to be defined by that whole mess. I also get the sense that she doesn't get along too well with the other Khrustalnii girls. We know that Anna and Dasha are friends. Aliona was in their Team_tutberhouse TikToks last year...so were Sofya Akatyeva, Maiia Khromykh, Adeliia Petrosian once...Kamila wasn't, though. Then she did an interview with Navka at the VKFest over the summer and one of the audience members asked if she was close with Anna, Sasha, etc. Kamila goes, "I'd rather not answer that question." pause. "But no, I'm not."

@nl887 Жыл бұрын

She seems quite close with sasha now though. She was in some of the tiktoks as well

@lucy-tf7pz Жыл бұрын

@@nl887 that is heartening! oh but I forgot - Kamila was in a music video too. So hopefully some fun things in her life?

@nl887 Жыл бұрын

@@lucy-tf7pz yh she was in vanya dmitrienkos music video. He even went to the competitions she was in recently

@anthonydolio8118 Жыл бұрын

Thank you guys. I am really enjoying the season, and I always look forward to hearing your comments about everything. You never disappoint.

@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@hellsbellsmichelle Жыл бұрын

I'd pay good money to see Jason go into dance, and I'd love to see him team up with Evgenia, but I think she might be too tall. Perhaps Olivia Smart? Is she still free?

@laurielynne2006 Жыл бұрын

I’m on board for Olivia/Jason dance team 😂

@AMAskating Жыл бұрын

He should ice dance with Karen Chen! She competed solo free dance this weekend for Cornell and won her event!

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

Performance wise yes she would be great but Evgenia does not have the skating skills or strength sadly

@user-jy8zb2wc8l Жыл бұрын

Could ice condition affect edges in particular? People normally more used to riding stably on a deep edge are maybe not be able to safely hold it in watery surfaces? I've always wondered whether GP France disproportionately affects those kinds of skaters (ones that really use the ice for momentum as opposed to skaters who jump on ice same as they would on land) and edge jumps. (Someone do a study!!)

@sleuththewild Жыл бұрын

Where are Jonathan's vases? I miss them.

@JohnnyOpera1 Жыл бұрын

They’re off to the side. I’ll bring one on next time!

@loredanaagafitei623 Жыл бұрын

Valieva strikes me as very ambitious person. Yes, she is talented but I think figure skating was imposed upon her. I observers the issues with the anxiety is the impediment to showing her personality and emotions on ice. Probably she is a afraid of being vulnerable. I certainly have compassion for her, the adults should be the ones punished. After the doping scandal she is caught in this claustrophobic environment, and I believe she is smart enough to know that she does not have a way out. NO one outside the Russian sphere would take her after the events of February. Deep down, even with all the flattering she gets from the Russian press and society at large, she hates it. But tries to make the best out of it. Most of the children/teenagers that excel in a certain field hate it, I'm speaking from my own experience. I hated the praises, the pressure, even people cheering for me.

@ddjr6673 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful, insightful and entertaining as ever. Thank you again. I would say in ice dance so far this season Fear & Gibson have the second highest RD and FD scores - surprisingly - for sure, but they've scored higher than Chock and Bates and Guinard and Fabbri. I will bet you they believe they can win Europeans and medal at World's (some may think that unfair but...). And Loena believes she can contend for the Gold with Kaori - however beautiful all the Korean women are artistically. I have one criticism of Loena and that is the underpart of her outfit for the SP. There really needs to be more coverage (and that's coming from a gay man).

@robamell4216 Жыл бұрын

i was shocked to see Dudakov

@andreagoldstein4070 Жыл бұрын

Me too. The Georgian team should have not competed as she was clearly dealing with injury.

@RED-cy7ig Жыл бұрын

She looked injured at the opening pose. Her face said everything.

@rosie94204 Жыл бұрын

Why he coaches Nika Egazde who is Georgian and was competing in the men's.

@patrickneedham3363 Жыл бұрын

@@andreagoldstein4070 Agree completely. Separate from the issue about their Russian connections, Karina is a beautiful young skater with potential to be really good. She clearly has a serious leg issue and should not have been skating. I hope she takes proper time off to heal. Trying to skate on such an injury can easily lead to missing a whole season or worse.

@yohanes2034 Жыл бұрын

Jumpscare moment really seeing him there. I guess which skaters are big enough to summon the Eteri herself? Moris maybe?

@nikki_at_disney Жыл бұрын

A 31 year old should not be skating with a 16 year old. It's just gross.

@cmadoyle1111 Жыл бұрын

where do you all watch all the grand prix series? Peacock SUCKED for Skate America and Skate Canada. I'd love to be able to see the rest of the series. Please help.

@iluvbluecookies97 Жыл бұрын

Anyone else watching on the isu youtube channel thought the camerawork at this event was bad?

@mihaillenivov485 Жыл бұрын

A lot of people think the same!

@rachelheller1396 Жыл бұрын

Jason is going to Nationals! I think that he will do well.

@EstefaSaucedo Жыл бұрын

do you know how to watch these grand prix i ca not see any video?

@strawberrylime33 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone have an update on bradie, if she's on track with the healing process? I'd hope that if she isn't ready for her assigned GP, she'll withdraw in time for another skater to go.

@letitiakearney2423 Жыл бұрын

I think they said the ice and arena was new and first class.

@0c0p0c0 Жыл бұрын

Christmas tree as a vessel for ornaments = craving for ketchup. Whaaaat :D :D :D :D I always end up on a mad run for a nice tree just a couple of days before the holidays. We don't do it before the solstice cause it needs to be pretty for Christmas Eve obviously.

@Cooltiger28 Жыл бұрын

I want to say. Happy Sunday 😅. This is really an interesting season. Is Pairs skating going down hill

@carolinaperez8182 Жыл бұрын

Lo.que.me.parece increíble es.que.Eteri.siga entrenando.niñas.que.pasados.los.16 van al.final.de.sus carreras

@B___T985 Жыл бұрын

It's hilarious how skating fans get. How does "Jason didn't look at his prime at the beginning of the Olympic season" = "I hate Jason"...? It's sad that you need to explain that isn't so.

@emilytuttle4067 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know why there aren’t complete free skate competition videos available on the ISU KZfaq this time? The full short program videos are there, but they seem to have only posted a few individual free skate videos instead of the whole competition. Anywhere else we can see them? Thank you!

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

I used the search box and found stuff that way eg ISU ANGERS FREE SKATE ETC. The channel was a mess😂

@SonOfAGun1814 Жыл бұрын

JASON!!!!!!!!!

@awuma Жыл бұрын

What the HELL was Dudakov doing there? Doesn't he travel on a Russian passport? I was stunned to see him there... couldn't believe my eyes.

@oliviakoss2369 Жыл бұрын

The Russians are not banned from traveling.

@maryloureiff6489 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree about Lee and Sota...Both good..but "UN"..

@dkeinow Жыл бұрын

7:16 I am happy that Jason is back. Also happy not to be watching Vincent Zhou. 42:33 this was more of a victory lap for Deanna & Max. It looks like the gold medal at the final will be between Deanna and Alexa. The Italians seem to be good for 3rd. Who do you think will be 4th-6th? 59:38 As a casual Ice Dance fan, I zone out when watching Guinard/Fabri. Their coach Barbara is more entertaining 1:13:45 You seem to be really intrigued by Valieva since your comments are almost verbatim from your recap 2 weeks ago (time of Skate America)

@ColonelGreen Жыл бұрын

You're forgetting the Japanese pair in the Final.

@saurabhvashist4051 Жыл бұрын

Agree with Colonel Green. It really is a competition between Alexa Knierim/Brandon Frazier and Riku Miura/Ryuichi Kihara for Gold. In my opinion, Gold goes to the Japanese pair (the new Sui-Han albeit with Julie Marcotte choreo 🙄). Alexa will take silver and given the scores this week, Deanna should be thrilled with a bronze.

@mihaillenivov485 Жыл бұрын

I haven't watched all video, but it seems they didn't mention Veronika Yametova, she did really well and on the rise in Russia right now.

@iamsoverybored878 Жыл бұрын

They should cut the beginning dialog in Valieva's program and get rid of the putting on the hood ending.

@susannahedwards758 Жыл бұрын

Picking food based on condiments-I feel seen.

@hellsbellsmichelle Жыл бұрын

Here in the UK, Indian Summer is NOT considered offensive. It's just something we have.

@robamell4216 Жыл бұрын

grew up in new england. not offensive there either.

@janvdb9258 Жыл бұрын

Michelle, how white are you,? It is totally offensive in the UK because of it's reference to colonialism..British troops disparaging Indians for weather among other things...

@hellsbellsmichelle Жыл бұрын

@@janvdb9258 I've never heard it in any derogatory way or tone. It's like saying "Spanish Plume" - it's just a weather effect. Does Spanish plume bring me images that Spaniards dress up in feathers? No it doesn't. Likewise, Indian Summer just means warm weather late in the year out of season. It means nothing more. When people start to make it something that it's not, that's offensive.

@janvdb9258 Жыл бұрын

@@hellsbellsmichelle it means nothing to you but ask some Asians who know the history...typical white ignorance

@kdcm6690 Жыл бұрын

It refers to Red Indians

@quintupleaxel Жыл бұрын

I think, looking back, the criticism of Pairs is unfair. Pairs ground to a halt everywhere except russia during the pandemic. Of course they're able to get the more difficult elements as they never had to stop training. What this GP season did for me was show that Pairs actually has a future.

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

Who is Danny o shea skating with? Is he still skating? Would this not be the ideal time for him to come through seeing as there is so little competition? Also, if deanna and Valentina marchei show you can switch disciplines and do well does this not inspire more women. Of course it is very difficult but can be done?! I assume men can’t switch due to size / strength issues they would have as male pairs are v strong and taller than singles.

@SunflowerCat333 Жыл бұрын

They just won their first competition, Ice Challenge, with a top ten in the ISU pairs score for this season. So happy for him!

@My-hat Жыл бұрын

@@SunflowerCat333 great! Thanks for the info

@skatefan9495 Жыл бұрын

I don't think Valieva currently stacks up very well with Kaori or Loena. Certainly not with Rika, if Rika regains her full technical content. Valieva was so over-scored previously, her scores would have to come down without the quads and triple axels. PCS so far this season have topped out in the 8s. I think the same would be true for Valieva.

@angieortizurena3327 Жыл бұрын

That lady could only jumps singles and fall in all and she will always get first place 🤮

@camronchapple8053 Жыл бұрын

What ever happened to Andrew torgashev, didn’t he go to ralph?

@christykostich6652 Жыл бұрын

Yes he’s still training at Great Park. Just saw him a couple months ago at a USFS competition here in Los Angeles area.

@davidandrusia137 Жыл бұрын

Isn't the Federation non-profit? As such, wouldn't they have to disclose honoraria paid to Jason and others?

@swirl586 Жыл бұрын

The USCIS process takes forever. I would lma if Diana's "husband" gets his travel paper

@stuckin2003 Жыл бұрын

GPdF felt more like a high-tier Challenger event to me: the field, the level of skating, the scant crowd. I was bored.

@carlingtedesco3933 Жыл бұрын

am I tired or were 80% of the programs at gp France unwatchably boring?

@elainetyger Жыл бұрын

It’s hard for me to say it anywhere else, because Jason is like skating Jesus with all the worship, but I thought Ilia should have been sent to the Olympics instead of Jason. However do I want to see Jason? Absolutely! If he is going to be at nationals, I may pay to fly out there and see the event, which I wasn’t planning to do.

@RN-nc1tt Жыл бұрын

Who was the hooded boy the Russian cameras were panning to after Kamila’s free skate?

@user-ym5ep7kr4t Жыл бұрын

Russian popular singer, Vanya Dmitrienko. They are friends, and Kamila took part in his music video

@kinsellawasrobbed7515 Жыл бұрын

There was talk of paying him to show up. Did they pay him? I hope not. That makes the entire competition questionable.

@figureskating2724 Жыл бұрын

Jason can do well at this upcoming Nationals and actually Worlds this year because Nathan and Yuzuru retired. He is one of the best with his artistry and will get a lot of PCS scores. However, he would not have a chance to get a medal at the next Olympics and would be taking a spot of someone else that has potential. This year doesn't seem like it would be a problem as no other man besides Ilia has stepped up and Camden is struggling and Vincent is taking a break. Jason should win a medal this upcoming Nationals. We are ok with it for Jason to compete this season as it's early in the quad with no one else seems to have potential. However, we hope he doesn't continue being mediocre at Worlds and Olympics and no real shot at a medal. Yes, he would have a decent shot at a World medal this year with lots of retirements or skaters taking a break; however, we would not back him to move forward to the next Olympics unless he gets at least one quad because even with one quad, it would be hard for him to win a medal. He sometimes struggles with his triple axels too. We don't seem to have depth in almost all of the categories/events except ice dancing and we are not as strong as we were there too. Hope it gets better before the 2026 Olympics or Jason will be a better team member than the other American men besides Ilia, who should improve his PCS and GOE by then.