This and That: 2023 Russian Nationals & 2022 Japanese Nationals (Kamila Valieva, Shoma Uno)
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Жыл бұрынThis weekend, the best skaters in Russia competed at the 2023 Russian Figure Skating Championships and the top skaters in Japan competed at the 2022 All-Japan Figure Skating Championships. It was a weekend filled with highlight performances by Kamila Valieva, Sofia Akatyeva, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Adelia Petrosian, Petr Gumenik, Evgeni Semenenko, Mishina and Galliamov, Boikova and Kozlovskii, Tarasova and Morozov, Shoma Uno, Koshiro Shimada, Kazuki Tomono, Kaori Sakamoto, Mai Mihara, Mao Shimada, Rika Kihira, Mana Kawabe, and Kana Muramoto and Daisuke Takahashi. We break down all of the action on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
This and That: 2023 Russian Nationals & 2022 Japanese Nationals (Kamila Valieva, Shoma Uno)
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@hannahma7064 Жыл бұрын
Timestamps! (Expand with caution... it's extremely long) 0:00 Opening 1:45 Intro (both championships felt smaller, lower-energy) 3:54 mention of entries for int’l events (4CC, University Games) 6:15 felt like we watched two different sports (edge quality, expression of skaters, what is happening athletically, recovery from injuries) 11:29 RUSNATS Women: Valieva vs Akateva (Kamila emoting a little more now? Sofia has better skating skills) 18:11 trajectory of recovery amongst the women’s event at RUSNAT 19:34 back to Valieva 20:44 3A technique for Akateva, Petrosyan, Valieva 21:50 recovery time, what it might take to be technically perfect and stay consistent, Russian women vs men 24:56 RUSNATS Men 26:26 Semenenko recovery from concussion, physically and psychologically 27:37 Gumennik vs Semenenko (29:11 Tuktamysheva had more artistic performance, Petrosyan, aesthetics, Sofia Muravieva) 32:36 Russian/Soviet women and pairs being very different 33:17 Boikova/Kozlovsky 33:43 Tarasova/Morozov 35:16 Mishina/Galliamov 36:14 B/K 37:14 Freeze, Australian documentary about Katya Alexandrovskaya not accessible with VPN? 40:23 RUSNATS Ice Dance in general, no field 41:36 Mark Kondratiuk withdrawing after the short, looking pained 42:32 Diana/Davis performance at a Christmas show, awesome boots on the ground! 44:41 weird camera on zamboni break at RUSNATS, they should show us the family lol 45:54 Japan 46:05 Riku/Ryuchi had an airline issue 46:24 Women 46:47 Ami Nakai 47:41 Mana Kawabe 48:47 Rika Kihira 49:41 Japanese selection >Worlds- Kaori + Mai + Rinka Watanabe; Kana/Daisuke (50:52, vs Misato/Tim, Lilah/Lewis) >4CC- (58:11) Rinka + Mone Chiba (58:28) + Hana Yoshida; both ice dance teams; Riku/Ryuchi; Koshiro Shimada + Kao Miura + Shun Sato 56:39 doing a 2A after a big jump, much better than eulers and frantic three-jump combos 59:25 Men 1:00:18 Shun Sato 1:00:58 Sota Yamamoto 1:01:31 Shoma is doing well with Lambiel! send Yuma there? perhaps came back too soon 1:06:27 Shoma upset that Koshiro Shimada isn’t sent to worlds (Shoma + Kazuki + Sota) 1:07:42 Kao Miura 1:09:21 Jr Worlds: Kao Miura + Nozumo Yoshioka; Mao Shimada + Ami Nakai; Murakami/Moriguchi 1:09:40 Mao Shimada 1:11:28 University Games: Yuma + Shun + Tatsuya Tsuboi; Rion Sumiyoshi + Kaori + Mai (also: Ting Cui, Dinh Tran, Yelim Kim, Dabin Choi) 1:12:43 Kaori Sakamoto 1:14:23 Mai Mihara 1:15:11 Marin Honda should do solo dance 1:15:32 moment of the week, nod to Italian and French Nationals Happy holidays, everyone!
@shomaunofan8486 Жыл бұрын
Yay! Glad I check before posting the same thing! Happy holiday to u too!❤
@norinecook844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for time stamps!
@inocohen5404 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@EAC311 Жыл бұрын
According to Shoma, the 3A+2A+2A was completely improvised by him mid-performance to make up for the two missed jumps at the beginning, which caused him to run behind on time, but he decided to risk the time penalty to get the extra jump in. Genius!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@dinifroggy Жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn't know this. I found it impossible to watch the nationals. I can't wait to see this!
@meganmorris5105 Жыл бұрын
The QQ link wasn’t bad. It froze periodically, but I just kept refreshing the screen. However, they showed a Russian exhibition while they resurfaced the ice. And it was about a minute or so behind.
@nicnoodles Жыл бұрын
@@meganmorris5105 I consider that to be bad lol. Freezing every 2 minutes was so annoying, and then having to refresh it every time kept missing so much and getting sick of doing it over and over
@meganmorris5105 Жыл бұрын
@@nicnoodles I watched the free on laptop on the QQ site. It was honestly much better than watching it on my phone on Safari. On there, QQ froze about every two minutes. I will say there was an ice storm in my area, so that may have had a little to do with the quality.
@KT-ql5ql Жыл бұрын
Happy 10 years, The Skating Lesson. Thank you for keeping up the great work.
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@marycoyne1889 Жыл бұрын
Wow how time flies!
@bucknut2000 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson u should bring back Jenny for a anniversary show , do another skater interview or something
@zackwilson8701 Жыл бұрын
unpopular opinion, but does anyone else really enjoy following Sofia Murieva? I know her programs are sort of tacky, but I just think she has the best PCS out of the Russian ladies and the consistency of her triple axel has been impressive. She keeps making small mistakes, but I keep finding myself rooting for her despite disliking Plushenko.
@amethyst5512 Жыл бұрын
Her technique is better than the Eteri crowd, but her tacky costumes, programs, and lack of understanding of how to use her height to her advantage make her a hard watch. Maybe she’ll get better at those things with time.
@lyramusica4485 Жыл бұрын
You're not alone. Her footwork sequences and spins are AMAZING as well. I do think she does have a better chance of longevity when compared to Kami, Sofia A., and Adelia, simply because of her superior jump technique. She also has some nice musical sensitivity, I just wish she had better programs (the SP is fine but the FP is just horrible).
@lisamaureen5185 Жыл бұрын
Yuma's injury to the talus is a tough one. The talus is weight-bearing and takes forever to rehab ( I had a double fracture of the talus and cartilage.) I hope he can return in a healthy manner. Love Shoma, congrats to him, Kaori, Daisuke & Kana. Really enjoyed Mone as well.
@Melissa-yr7fm Жыл бұрын
I shattered my talus from skating. Just landed a triple toe. Got a little too excited, too much adrenaline and it just messed up my timing when I went to show a friend. I came out at 2.5 rotations, forward with my right toe pick stuck until the ice. My body kept rotating around my stuck foot. The tib/fib ended up acting as a drill and they drilled into my talus. It made a literal circle opening, with the rest of the bone so shattered. The doctor said it was like trying to make chicken salad out of a chicken. If you need surgery there, they usually cut lengthwise into the tendon on the inside of your ankle as it’s better than cutting the tendon into two pieces, as there is such poor blood supply to the tendons and to bone. It take forever to heal. Even with a top surgeon, plenty of great rehab, (and rehab to this day, 15 years later), the injury still gets swollen and still has issues. Best of luck to Yuma. Talus injuries are one of the worst places to get injured for figure skaters. The talus bone specifically takes 4-8 times a skaters body weight each time a jump is landed. My surgeon told me to stay as lean and fit as possible to help with the talar functionality.
@helenaprout1061 Жыл бұрын
Kazuki Tomono officially cured my depressive bout with his performance here. He is such a ray of sunshine, if a bit chaotic 😆
@marcgalvan9360 Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays to both of you. I was highly anticipating this to complete my Christmas.
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@corgeousgeorge Жыл бұрын
Fun fact I learned today that I was NOT expecting: Jonathan Beyer IS a pinky ring kinda guy! Giving us some "Goodfellas" Italian mob, pinky ring, Christmas festive realness!
@NG-ue4th Жыл бұрын
I'm just really happy that kazuki tomono made it to the world's team this year, so all my fave charismatic messes are all gonna be there : Shoma (he's actually cleaned up a lot these days still), Jun (love the bond fp), kazuki (don't care what anyone says, actually quite like the free, he's so charming in it) and Kevin (his free has made me emotional every single time I've watched it regardless of the jump content)
@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын
They're all my favorite chaos boys too!
@helenaprout1061 Жыл бұрын
@@lollypop2414 chaos boys for the win 😆gotta love them
@romantickangaroo Жыл бұрын
According to Russian sources, the word which Valieva encoded in Morse code in her program is "faith" ( "вера" in Russian ).
@topicdel Жыл бұрын
Thanks TSL! Loved this recap. Happy Holidays to you and Jonathan!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@xuanx4937 Жыл бұрын
love the part at 51:28 when Dave corrected Jonathan n said he's not being an idiot 😂 true friends these two!!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@laurielynne2006 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting during the holidays! You’re so good to us❤❤
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@3l3llala13 Жыл бұрын
I caught a little bit of the Russian Nationals. The top Russian pairs put the current American World Champion to shame. I liked Liza's LP ; It's probably the first LP of hers that I didn't mind watching in its entirety. The top Russian guys were exciting to watch too.
@RN-nc1tt Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting to see the Wednesday Adams exhibition program. It was a side of Kamila I’ve never seen before. I thought it was cool!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
It was!
@ingai7014 Жыл бұрын
Was not :homophobic country ruzzia ,and hypocritical music choice while banning LGBT in their own country
@ingai7014 Жыл бұрын
Guess :target reached ,she is trying hard for Western sympathy,especially America ,before court decision,homophobic country quickly can forget their “values” and propaganda when it’s convenient for them
@quatele Жыл бұрын
It was a crowd pleasing performance that I have not seen from Kamila before. It raises the bar. I want to see more.
@ingai7014 Жыл бұрын
@@quatele crowd seems don’t mind gay American product they openly opposed and despite,how convenient and hypocritical
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Dave and Jonathan! 💗 🤗
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@ninagifta Жыл бұрын
Just adding update about Shoma being unhappy about the world/4cc selections, today there are news that coaches and skaters were equally unsatisfied with the assignments and JSF held a meeting with skaters and coaches to explain their decisions. The head of the selection committee then promised to explain the selection criteria to each coaches for next season so skaters know what to do if they’re aiming for world/4cc, especially if they don’t have GP assignments prior to national due to reasons like world standing/injuries. There is also speculation that Yuma’s team were hoping for a spot but he’s not even listed for an alternate so they’re one of the dissatisfied party.
@RedShoes29 Жыл бұрын
Yuma sat out the entire season because of an injury, his team needs to get their heads out of their asses. Even Yuzuru had to show up for Nationals to qualify for Beijing.
@amethyst5512 Жыл бұрын
Yuma should not be surprised. He sat out the whole season and wasn’t close to the podium here. You have to give them something to select you on. Although he clearly needs more time as he wasn’t ready yet, so this is a good thing for him whether he likes it or not. I thought I heard his name for university games, if he really goes to that, he should take it easy with the content and keep his recovery slow and steady.
@hirota505 Жыл бұрын
According to the former rules, Yuma was eligible because he has Olympic medals. I do think putting Yuma out is reasonable because it seems that he needs more time to recover from his injuries. However, he risked his career to participate the JNat because there had been a similar case like that before more than once. It could have been understandable for Yuma if he were listed alternate for World/4CC. The lack of respect to the athletes caused this confusion.
@ninagifta Жыл бұрын
@@hirota505 yes I agree and also this is not the first time in Japan an Olympic/world medalist skater sit out gp series and either attend or not attend jnats and still being given a spot. So if it’s true then it’s not totally unreasonable to ask for explanation.
@ninagifta Жыл бұрын
@@RedShoes29 Yuma did attend Jnats this year. Also according to JSF selection criteria Yuma qualifies for a spot because he’s a former Olympic and world medalist and his world standing is higher than Sota/Kazuki/Shun so it’s not totally unreasonable for them to ask for explanation especially if they’re aiming for Yuma to recover by world.
@yueyjon4422 Жыл бұрын
Ikura KUSHIDA (8th Women’s) was my surprise favourite! Jonathan, you should check out her free to Samson and Dalila, so very Kristi 1991. To think THAT skate resulted in 8th shows the depth. Wow. KanaDai ❤ Kaori ❤ Tomoki Hope Mana Kawabe will do “Much Betta” next season!
@martaszczesiak6606 Жыл бұрын
Mozolev's Led Zeppelin short programme 🥇
@KG-jg4zn Жыл бұрын
Yesss
@dkeinow Жыл бұрын
8:37 Valieva has a more mature body compared with Akatiyeva. She reminded me of Alina competing against Sasha, Anya, and Alena in 2019
@TheFlowMind Жыл бұрын
Yep. Alina with a very thin but womanly body in 2919 looked twice the size of those girls. It means that the young ones are barely 40kg.
@patsy1610 Жыл бұрын
Maybe 💊 increase her weight? 😬 Muraviova too is 6teen but look mutch more thin than Valieva
@nl887 Жыл бұрын
@@patsy1610 no shes always been very tall compared to other skaters
@cyrra8865 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFlowMind I believe Anna revealed in an interview that she was only ~60lbs when she landed her first quad.
@user-we5un3oh8r Жыл бұрын
@@patsy1610 вы что не знаете, что такое взросление организма? Разве все одинаково взрослеют? Один рост, один вес? Вспомните как изменилась Алиса Лью за несколько месяцев
@kamelenka Жыл бұрын
some people from my fan community have seen the documentary about Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya. Apparently she struggled with alcohol abuse. The AUS federation tried to help her and got her a specialist but still Katya's health condition deteriorated. Beginning of 2020 she was diagnosed with epilepsy, bad kidney & liver function, her puls was like 135... She couldnt stay in sports anyway, so she advised Harley to look for a new partner. Meanwhile Harley had to return to Australia because his visa expired...
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
So many Russian athletes have struggled with alcoholism following their careers which has led to premature death. It is so sad 😔
@kamelenka Жыл бұрын
@@thesovgc yep this is so true..In the preview of this documentary there is Nina Moser explaining that a student'd better be from a dysfunctional family. Thus they are hungry for victory. I think it's more about how a coach treat this kid and nobody would care about...
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
@@kamelenka that definitely makes a lot of sense!
@skaterboy-cz9wj Жыл бұрын
So tragic. She still was Harley's best hope. So young, talented and beautiful. Life is so fragile.
@theprinceoftides6836 Жыл бұрын
@@skaterboy-cz9wj Such is life.
@lc4822 Жыл бұрын
Mone is actually a bit more of a standout than even Mao from those juniors, her skating is sooo beautiful ❤️ but they were all amazing!!
@Cooltiger28 Жыл бұрын
I want to say happy Christmas 🎄 and happy Boxing Day everyone. I am super excited for the next as the blade turns
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@hirota505 Жыл бұрын
Shoma didn’t explain the reason when he was asked at the press conference. Maybe there had been some unsaid rules which were quite political. People speculate that it’s because Koshiro was not selected to the World’s but I don’t think it’s that simple. He said that it’s better not to speak about it further, so we should respect it.
@meganmorris5105 Жыл бұрын
It seems like he said what most of the others were thinking. His words also pushed the JSF to discuss things with the athletes. He seems to have pushed them to be more transparent.
@amethyst5512 Жыл бұрын
@@meganmorris5105 that is the best thing star athletes can do, use their star power for good.
@meganmorris5105 Жыл бұрын
@@amethyst5512 I think he did just that. Well done.
@KoraimaLynn Жыл бұрын
Es correcto Shoma no especificó sus palabras pero sí dejó claro que deberían ser claros con el criterio de selección: ¿cuáles son esos criterios? Aquello tranquilizaria a entrenadores y patinadores, por ejemplo la temporada pasada Mai Mihara tuvo buenas participaciones en sus asignaciones en la que no.le fue tan bien fue en nacionales pero ella (Mai) tenía la experiencia de competencias internacionales donde ha tenido buen desempeño, pero la JSF envió a las olimpiadas a Mana Kawabe sin experiencia y recién subiendo de junior, con desempeño por debajo de Mai quien incluso ganó el 4CC, la diferencia la temporada pasada es que Mana era entrenada por Hamada quien es un peso pesado en la JSF.
@corgeousgeorge Жыл бұрын
That turtleneck Dave is wearing today looks just so stylish, lush, comfy and EXPENSIVE! Werq! That wine color on the bottom and the lighter more of a brick red up top?! Loves!!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! It isn't one of my most expensive! It was a Christmas present and it is very comfy.
@corgeousgeorge Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson Well it LOOKS expensive and that is the important thing ha ha! I'm sure Tarasova would approve as well as Marie France.
@1alicepb Жыл бұрын
i think 4cc will be fun! Don’t have to have the big names for it to be a good competition. I was at 4cc last season except for the Koreans there was no big names but it’s still one of the best competitions I’ve been to. I got to see skaters that I might not see at big championships and also got new favorites.
@maryloureiff6489 Жыл бұрын
Kao did not skate like he did at JPN Open, SA/SC..He is unrefined, strong..which is why I love that beastly program for him.Koshira was 9th and 4th at his GP..Kazuki was 3rd and 4th (NHK) in a field that was more stacked than Jayne Mansfield..
@mihaillenivov485 Жыл бұрын
Not a single word about Russian rising star Veronika Yametova so far! Of cause, Veronica has no quads so far, but quads aren"t everything, right?
@stingyshannon701 Жыл бұрын
All the girls lack artistry, technique is terrible, all on drugs, but didn't stop them watching the Russians Nationals from start to finish and dedicating the first 45 minutes to the event.
@L.Spencer Жыл бұрын
they all look the same, couldn't tell them apart. Except Valieva has matured (in a good way), Elizabeta gave a nice performance, too, for a change.
@mihaillenivov485 Жыл бұрын
@@L.Spencer No, Yametova doesn't look like anybody else, not in Russia, not in the whole world! Speed - Veronika is so fast, full of energy and joy of skating, with a trick of her own. She skates cleanly, haven't a single serious mistake throughout whole season, always cheerful and smiling, people love her!
@ingai7014 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry :they will ,once she get triple Axel!💯🙌
@romantickangaroo Жыл бұрын
It is not true these days that Russian lady skaters with quads are essentially limited to one rink (i.e. Tutberidze) as you suggested. Other clubs try to catch up and now have girls who already demonstrated quads this season. Several girls in Plushenko camp do quads, although most of them are juniors. Gorbacheva from another club did a fantastic 4S at the nationals. Zinina from yet another club does regularly 4T. Samodelkina from a different team is capable of quads, but was not successful lately. And of course, I do not even mention the Tutberidze girls here. It is easy to say that they are on drugs. The advantage Russians have is that figure skating is probably number one sport for girls. They are motivated to be famous like Zagitova or Scherbakova or Trusova or Valieva, which also brings a lot of money from sponsors and lucrative jobs on TV. It is easier to find talents among a large pool of skaters than from a small pool like in most other countries. And the conditions the advanced skaters have are super. Plushenko has his own territory with rinks and private houses for a few best skaters to live next to the rink without wasting time in traffic. Trusova and Kostornaya lived in such houses when they were with him. The new rinks for Tutberidze are also under construction.
@stingyshannon701 Жыл бұрын
In Russia they get some of the best female athletes gravitating to the sport. In the US, just indulged children with wealthy parents get the opportunity to skate so a tiny talent pool. Also, someone from a humble background has more motivation, determination, greater commitment than someone born into a wealthy family.
@melissatowner8556 Жыл бұрын
Is Kostornoia giving pairs a try or is this for show. What I’ve seen so far looks amazing.
@RedShoes29 Жыл бұрын
It's for a show. She has mentioned before that she'll only consider pairs when she fully decides that she doesn't want to do singles anymore because it's easy to get into pairs but much more difficult to transition back to singles.
@ginanitta625 Жыл бұрын
You are right Dave with mao Shimada… she’ll be one to watch in the future… it also remaided of young Asada ! Well let’s see how she blooms as the years go by.
@RedShoes29 Жыл бұрын
I hope she doesn't burn out like Marin did. Marin was the same, gorgeous skater, terrific skating skills, huge hype then she just....faded.
@skatefan9495 Жыл бұрын
With the age limits, Mao won't be eligible for the Olympics until she is 21. I hope she is able to continue. She is a breath of fresh air.
@maryloureiff6489 Жыл бұрын
You know what my moment of the week was..Kazuki Tomono..at the Hollywood Bowl..My performative persimmon..He made Christmas for me..
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@daphenaxa Жыл бұрын
Didnt Shoma after training with eteri say something like "now I know what kind of person she is and she knows what kind of person I am"
@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын
Yes he did.
@karolinap4498 Жыл бұрын
Did he? Where?
@daphenaxa Жыл бұрын
@@karolinap4498 not sure where exactly. It was a translation someone did on Twitter. I think it was in the same interview where he said she wasn't that strict as he had been told (paraphrasing).
@karolinap4498 Жыл бұрын
@@daphenaxa the only instant I've seen him talking about Eteri was in the interview with Kanako (during The Ice I think), he said it was suuper strict with a little smirk and didn't elaborate. I'd take all twitter translations with a grain of salt. But thank you for replying and let me know if you manage to find the interview.
@rachelgates509 Жыл бұрын
Great video! You’re dramatic reading, Dave, of Natalie‘s post was funny. Y’all talking about those great performances from back in the day got me thinking what one of my favorites was. I have many but I’ll never forget Mao Asada‘s free skate at the Sochi Olympics! I was crying with her at the end thinking, “ that’s right girl, show them who you are!“ lol I am so dramatic. Plus I love an underdog moment!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
It was a great moment, indeed!
@emilys.6199 Жыл бұрын
RE: Semenenko and miraculous recoveries. It's not just the concussion from April. He said on Sunday that after the test skates he had a severe knee injury. To be more exact, scans showed that only 1/5 of the condyle remained intact, so almost a full fracture. The test skates were three months ago. I'm not too surprised that he recovered so fast considering Shcherbakova once went from almost passing out after a short program to skating a free program with two quads as if she were a marathon runner in peak shape and that recovery only took 24 hours. 3 months must be an eternity for these people.
@alexac3098 Жыл бұрын
It speaks volumes about how serious Daria Usascheva’s injury from last year was though, since she still hasn’t returned to competition.
@angieortizurena3327 Жыл бұрын
Those “smell salts” they use in Doping-land are really miraculous! 😂
@Amy-bl8sp Жыл бұрын
I was able to watch the Katya and Harley documentary with a VPN. I had to sign up and login to the Australian TV network website (ABC?) but I eventually got to watch it. It was very well done, but devastating. :(
@janef220 Жыл бұрын
Are you able to upload it
@lindaallison5338 Жыл бұрын
The global skating community need to see it. Many lessons to take from it. I keep thinking about Katya’s mum - she’s lost her husband and her only child . Tragic.
@kathykojimoto663 Жыл бұрын
Big surprise: Ami Nakai with 3A & 2T combination -
@BethH992 Жыл бұрын
I managed to watch the Australian documentary in the UK using surfshark. I think it was well put together and sensitively done, although honestly I think they could even have unpacked the coaches' abusive dynamic even further. Overall it was just utterly, utterly tragic
@Magical_turtle Жыл бұрын
Dave, I also wondered if Valieva’s hoodie moment was a malfunction or if it was symbolic. Was she saying she’s no longer going to hide her face in shame? It crossed my mind too. Because it didn’t look like she tried very hard to pull the hood up. Maybe we’ll never know! 🤔
@mai3334 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t she make her usual “oops, whatever” sheepish face when she couldn’t pull it up?
@Magical_turtle Жыл бұрын
@@mai3334 oh is that a thing that she does? Lol! Yes I noticed and wondered both ways. Was it a look of frustration or was it bad acting. 😅 Probably a mistake. But I wondered.
@alexac3098 Жыл бұрын
I wondered as well, but I read somewhere that it was intentional.
@KamilaValieva-fan Жыл бұрын
She said in interview clearly afterwards that she doesn’t need to hide from the hood any more.
@Magical_turtle Жыл бұрын
Oh thank you for the info! I am English speaking and haven't seen a translation of her interview yet. I guess I wasn't wrong to think so in the first place. Cheers and Happy New Year all
@tonymu8984 Жыл бұрын
Love this!!
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
Mone Chiba is my favorite Japanese ladies skater since Mao Asada. Love her! It's a shame she didn't get a shot at Worlds! 😔
@quintupleaxel Жыл бұрын
She'll be at four continents! And it's not like she only has one shot at Worlds..
@maryanikoswara2672 Жыл бұрын
@@quintupleaxel next season Wakaba will return to compete. The allocation for GP assignment will be hard since both Hana and Mone will move up to the senior circuit. Her assignment to 4CC with Hana is like a sign from JSF for the next season. Who comes out with better result in 4CC will get the ticket for the GP. This strategy is also implemented last season when JSF sent both Rion and Rinka to JWC. Before Wakaba wdn Rinka didn't have any GP assignment since her result was below Rion at Tallin. I love Mone's skating. I just hope that JSF will see her potential no matter what the result ahead. The field in Japan is so deep 😭😭
@alexg4675 Жыл бұрын
Very bright Russian nationals except ice-dances. Semenenko's revamp in FS is definitely succeeded. And what a catchy Valieva's Wednesday on gala!
@kadv2172 Жыл бұрын
I loved her gala Programm, very entertaining 😊
@user-ld5id1ii5r Жыл бұрын
@@kadv2172 she is take a dope still!
@nl887 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ld5id1ii5r no proof she is so shut up and leave her alone
@KG-jg4zn Жыл бұрын
@@user-ld5id1ii5r how do you know that?
@alexg4675 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ld5id1ii5r лично подмешивали?
@andreagoldstein4070 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why T/M are still competing after the OG. So Eteri can have a pair team? They are clearly the #3 team behind Moskvina's. Speaking of which, I thought she was retiring after the OG, too?
@insi4547 Жыл бұрын
T/M were considered to be #3 team too during the Olympic season. Yet they ranked higher than Moskvina's teams at the OG.
@skaterboy-cz9wj Жыл бұрын
@@insi4547 T/M are not clearly no. 3. They do not have the tech elements but they are the most beautiful team to watch. I fclean they culd win Russian nats and worlds - in fact not clean they are better than the American champs and Japanese pairs.
@user-eu1ju9wv8v Жыл бұрын
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@gymerin Жыл бұрын
I do not understand how Russia, with it's illustrious history in ballet, continues to produce some of the most horrific music and choreography for these skaters. It's such a shame because they have all of the choreographic resources to produce quality content. Instead we get lawnmowers and bee swarms.
@SecondPlaceYuya Жыл бұрын
Because jumping wins. Actual skating is meaningless in 2022.
@gymerin Жыл бұрын
@@SecondPlaceYuya This problem isnt just recent.
@evanperilstein5308 Жыл бұрын
Because modern day Russians are tacky AF. Have you seen the label whoring by the nouveau riche Russians?
@amyl6426 Жыл бұрын
@@SecondPlaceYuya Perhaps. But it has made skating boring AF .
@anastasiaignatyeva8687 Жыл бұрын
I guess they are not involving outside choreographers as they want to get all the funding for doing the programs themselves. So the most notorious choreographers are Averbuckh, Gleikhegauz and Mikhailov. Ballet choreographers are rarely involved.
@dkeinow Жыл бұрын
Listening to this again after the premiere. It is so entertaining and enjoyable
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@gsmushki Жыл бұрын
Please clarify how you can explain the inconsistencies and overall lower technical level of Russian men’s event (when compared to international men’s events) with respect to the Russian doping. Men are not doping? Or the drug combo is more effective in female teenagers age 13-15?
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
There appear to be psychological and physical differences that allow for females to peak at a younger age and handle the training loads and control. Men peak later and are not as adept in either area.
@noran7809 Жыл бұрын
"psychological and physical differences" OK but the question was about doping.
@mai3334 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the men try to jump with proper technique whereas Eteri girls are more concerned with just making the rotations in the air and calling it a “quad __.”
@Nikas-S Жыл бұрын
@@mai3334 So, it's not about doping, but about technique? Or does doping help only with the wrong technique?
@kathykojimoto663 Жыл бұрын
Good for K Shimada performance landing a 4C space; K Tomino first medal going to worlds
@petyunya880206 Жыл бұрын
Sinitsyna ❤️
@johnnyboy2627 Жыл бұрын
Sinitsyna in English means “Angel on the ice.”
@theprinceoftides6836 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyboy2627 That she is.
@user-ml2lk7dy7k 2 ай бұрын
Truth. The most beautiful Russian skater in living memory alongside Anna Scherbacova.@@theprinceoftides6836
@maria375s Жыл бұрын
This is the best holiday gift, thank you Dave and Jonathan and Happy Holidays!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@stsin7 Жыл бұрын
Waited for it!
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@ilanplazola1715 Жыл бұрын
Could you spent more time talking about the wonderful program Liza presented, wow I haven't seen such a beautiful program in women's skating since Mao Asada and Kotsner (pre-Etery's girls). I love her maturity and her emotions, it was like a love letter to her sport.
@annaiz9524 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a magnificent interpretation of her program!
@leeh9211 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know which American ladies/girls can do quads? Do we have anyone that can? We heard of Mia Kalin, but is there anyone else? Thanks for your assistance.
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Not right now.
@leeh9211 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson Thanks for your assistance.
@FantasianPeople Жыл бұрын
Mark Kondratiuk got an injury at the end of November and was at a hospital for two weeks after.
@NG-ue4th Жыл бұрын
So someone on twitter pointed out that Winter Olympics and fifa were in the same year and then I realised that Beijing happened literally this year and I've been spiralling ever since...anyways brb gonna go and watch wakaba's lion king fp and cry for an hour✌
@maryloureiff6489 Жыл бұрын
Koshiro has been w Lambiel for yrs and I do not see great posture or stretch. I think he is delightful...but, he needs more work..Tell me how Sota's SS are better than Kazuki's..I do not see it.
@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Koshiro's posture is bad, but I do think a lot of what makes a skater beautiful, or artistic, is inherent to the skater themselves. Also, it's easier to have time to work on the little things when a skater is consistent with the big elements (Shoma for example being capable of 5 quads, solid footwork, etc.) than when a skater is still trying to master the big technical elements (Koshiro needing to be more consistent with jumps, more crisp with footwork, etc.). Also worth noting, Shoma did ballet for years growing up and quit when he became a senior level skater (but Lambiel has pushed him into picking that up again). It's apparent in his posture and extension. I'm guessing not all of the Japanese men have had a lot of ballet training, and obviously some would have more natural ability in ballet than others too. Kazuki had worked so hard to improve his SS over the years! I think he and Sota are close when it comes to basic skating. Kazuki is definitely a better performer, but Sota is better with spins.
@strawberrylime33 Жыл бұрын
Dave, I found it so true when u mentioned how kamila recovered so rapidly, yet Yuma and rika have taken longer to get back to their previous level. It can't be that Yuma and rika are lazy. You're right.
@nl887 Жыл бұрын
It also depends on the injuries there is also so many legal drugs to help recover
@amethyst5512 Жыл бұрын
I still find all of Scherbakova’s recoveries the most impressive. Really shows the power of xenon gas. That girl literally was fueled by drugs, liquid nutrition, & steadfast determination not to let anyone down. Still couldn’t fix that dead hanging free leg though.
@lindaallison5338 Жыл бұрын
I just saw Opera Australia’s production of POTO in Melbourne and I won’t apologise for it. 😂 Love Kanadai’s programs. Hope they nail it at 4CC.
@mikeokubo7061 Жыл бұрын
The university games have a bit of a national glory in Japan (and maybe in South Korea too??) because you represent your university which is a big part of Japanese college culture. I think Rika doesn’t go to university and that makes her non eligible…
@emmax4806 Жыл бұрын
Rika is Waseda University student.
@heyhey3765 Жыл бұрын
At first, with valievas hood I thought she couldn’t get it open or something. But then I was like is this supposed to be on purpose, like she’s at the end of an arch for whatever story they were going for. Hmmmmm
@sunnyyan1931 Жыл бұрын
Will either you or Jonathan be attending Nationals in-person?? :)
@jennifer5512 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Dave about Mao Shimada. My only thing about her is her arms before her jumps but yeah, she does have a star quality that many other skaters don't have.
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@BillyWhaler Жыл бұрын
As one of KZfaq’s top 37-38 skate poets I need my muse. This season was flat without Danny’s earned assurance, Eteri’s technical guidance at the boards, and the powder keg shitstorm that awaits backstage. Not sure how they sell sponsorships with the status quo.
@Dynda005 Жыл бұрын
About Sota and his costume - he's a big, HUGE fan of Yuzuru, he said in an interview? i think? that yuzu's origin costume very much inspired his fs costume and he's very happy the designer could put it together for him. So for me its just a fanboy paying tribute to his fav, and not trying to take yuzuru's place :D
@lc4822 Жыл бұрын
Shun was great! His programs were my fav after Shoma and he is the most memorable of that 2-6 bunch to me after maybe Kazuki.
@evanperilstein5308 Жыл бұрын
I think Shun's skating is very pedestrian. He doesn't get down into his knees, he shows no personality and his spins are frankly terrible. I remember Johnny Weir said at the Internationale de France last season that Shun's skating was like if a ski jumper skated because of his stiff knees. I think he also compared his skating to Boyang Jin's.
@zackwilson8701 Жыл бұрын
Shun is my next favorite Japanese man, too, after Shoma, Kazuki, and Yuma. There is just something enduring about him, even if his PCS are average and his spins are slow. I like him!
@eljj7968 Жыл бұрын
Curious with the Russian doping situation why whatever they're taking that seems to allow them to train longer/harder seems to work for the women but not the men? Different coaches and training regimes? The men in recent years have been so so inconsistent and to be honest pretty sloppy, which I find kind of interesting. Or perhaps Eteri just has some magic pills everyone else doesn't lol. Kamila looks like a completely different person physically from the start of this year - she looks like an adult woman now, very much like Alina in the year following the Olympics. It's such a rapid change I have to wonder if they just stop giving them puberty blockers after the Olympics are done or something... In saying that, I actually really like both Kamila's programmes this year (tacky starts and endings aside), she is interpreting a lot more (her gala programme is really interesting too - not my cup of tea, but by far the most I have ever seen her emote). That quad toe really is stunning, I actually was like ' WOW' when I saw it. Totally agree Russia and Japan were like watching two different worlds though. In Japan, I hate to say this but I thought Mao looked slow :/ Sorry Dave lol. Her jumps are also quite small although the landings are beautiful. I still much prefer Kaori's speed and flow and just overall big beautiful skating. Mao is definitely a little ray of sunshine, but still looks very young and 'small' compared to some of the others. Also, props to Shoma for finally doing a quad-triple and for doing three combinations in his free! I can't remember the last time both of those things happened in one programme haha!
@evanperilstein5308 Жыл бұрын
I agree that as beautiful as Mao Shimada's skating is, she is definitely slower than the other top juniors and seniors.
@anastasiaignatyeva8687 Жыл бұрын
I think the other camps dont have the same government support and in the case of doping may be dismissed like Sotskova was dissmissed from competing and coaching for 10 years although she was not competing.
@johnl405 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting they seem to have the science really down for the women, but it doesn't seem to work with the men. Maybe there's just a bigger room for potential with the women (girls)?
@anastasiaignatyeva8687 Жыл бұрын
@@johnl405 I think Dave is exaggerating by saying that everyone takes doping in Russian team. Looking like Alyiev or Ignatov are literally dying by the end of the program, I don’t think they even get enough physical exercises in the camp, otherwise they would have much better success on international scene
@amethyst5512 Жыл бұрын
They key with the drugs is that they allow you to train more than is normally possible. You still have to actually do the work. It’s very clear some of those Russian men don’t do run throughs. Dope can only get you so far. And if you aren’t self motivated or don’t have someone like Eteri pushing you, it’s still not going to happen. Remember how she said she prefers girls. It’s because of how young girls are much easier to psychologically push to such limits, to ignore the signs of injury, and do whatever they’re told. And those who defy are shunned.
@dokkerdam3844 Жыл бұрын
i wish you guys had a minimum of graphics or subject chapters so i could skip/find the parts i'm looking for. the video is too long to sit through waiting.
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@dokkerdam3844 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson thanks for that reply. paola la broke my heart in her review of the russian nationals. she doesn't see the potential of sofia akateva and she missed the genuine sweetheart response when sofia had to stop herself from crying because she thought she had failed (probably because eteri is such a bioche) and then was aghast when she found out she had won!
@inocohen5404 Жыл бұрын
Guys, I love you. You are the best. I look forward to your videos every week. I really miss the Russians in the international competitions and much appreciate your updates. Providing there is strict dopping control for all, it is time to include them again. A healthy global competition will be good for all skaters. As global influentials, you can bring the world of figure skating together. And you are already helping in that direction.
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
You mention that doping causes short careers, yet Liza is better than ever.. Which is also explained away by implying she's doping. So is she superhuman that she's been able to handle these normally debilitating body-ruining substances for 12+ years?
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
First off, she isn't training with Eteri and doing the crazy numbers that they tell us they do in training. Liza is obviously very talented and has had very good technique. She also had years when she was unable to do much of anything and that cannot be discounted either. I do greatly admire her ability to come back from those challenging years. When we talk about internal loads, it is interesting to look at how many events she did during 2014-15 (when she admitted to being on Meldonium). It took years for her to return to form after that, which may have been her body healing from the amount of stress it went through during that season.
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson do you think there are rinks in Russia where doping isn't happening? I feel like it's probably everywhere, being that it's most likely a state sponsored thing. If that's the case, how do you feel that these skaters don't really have agency over what they put in their bodies and what they have to endure if they want to succeed. I'm not saying you do this, but if feels like some people blame the athletes when I really don't think they have a choice.
@wotanworld5504 Жыл бұрын
@@thesovgc These skaters have their parents and they certainly understand what they let their kids to go through. If you decide and go to sleep with the Devil, do not complain when you wake up in Hell!
@KamilaValieva-fan Жыл бұрын
I guess Alysa Liu’s short career was caused by doping, according to TSL?
@mariaritapieraccini3501 Жыл бұрын
Kinda makes you think that maybe they are lying about the "doping" to eliminate the best.
@julienixon2686 Жыл бұрын
Loved Freeze. I think our British skaters would do better with more funding. Look at the British gymnastics team now for example. Mark H can do no wrong for me 😊
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
@carolinedavis6557 Жыл бұрын
Katya and Harley was excellent - completely devastating. Both athletes having to overcome serious difficulties to reach some incredible goals, and exploitation and abuse by both the Russian system, and the Australian press and bureaucracy. Hopefully history won’t repeat itself with the current pairs team. The ice rink where they trained is closed at the moment as the roof is falling in and the council which owns it won’t pay to fix it.
@hannahdeclerck6825 Жыл бұрын
nice sweater Dave!
@jimmyfab Жыл бұрын
4 Continent's has never been a thing. It's typically never a "big name" event. Its sorta an event that never took off.
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
It has been great some years!
@andreagoldstein4070 Жыл бұрын
It's usually a consolation prize for not making the A team for Worlds. I've always enjoyed it though. What is weird is tickets went on sale just last week for it, so clearly the organizers are treating it like an after thought.
@skatefan9495 Жыл бұрын
The Asian skaters have taken it more seriously than the Americans. Mao, Yuna, Daisuke, Hanyu, Shoma Uno have all competed at Four Continents.
@evanperilstein5308 Жыл бұрын
@@skatefan9495 Patrick Chan also competed at 4CC. It definitely became a bigger event once Yuna and Mao started competing at it. The only years it doesn't get the big names are Olympic years because it's scheduled too close to the Olympics. James OMG must not have watched it since the mid 2000s.
@dame_ys Жыл бұрын
Evgeni’s winning was fair. And there’s no surprise why his PCS were higher than like two years ago. Shame on ppl for insulting him. His progress is obvious.
@susanfoss3599 Жыл бұрын
Do we know for sure the triple Axel was planned in the short? Without one in the free, I wonder if it was even planned for the short.
@susanfoss3599 Жыл бұрын
@Benjamin ahhhhh….thanks!
@stingyshannon701 Жыл бұрын
@Benjamin She did land one 3A in the warm up though.
@armoda1057 Жыл бұрын
@Benjamin idk how much it matters, but there’re recent clips of her hitting 3A in practice, so it doesn’t seem crazy that she’d try it. Of course, it’s ironic that she would’ve won the event if she had just done 2A (also would’ve won if she didn’t double in the free).
@quintupleaxel Жыл бұрын
Totally disagree about Mai's FS music. There's a growing intensity and maturity to it. Very different for her. But I think it really works.
@leliadumitriu Жыл бұрын
The Romanian gymnasts comparison that Dave did is on point. I practiced gymnastics in Romania in the early 2000s, until I hit puberty, and it is exactly how you put it, a Deus ex Machina, lacking in emotion or artistry. I hated myself and the sport in those times. I saw the same thing in the Russian girls in figure skating. The methods only work with waif like little girl. Talking about Valieva, she still has an it factor to her skating, her personality comes out even with the utterly uninspired choreography. Akatiyeva is painfull to watch for me, because I can feel the trauma behind the "perfection"
@lisa-lisa-lisa Жыл бұрын
MIR for everyone but Ukraine I guess
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
Touche.
@lince0r Жыл бұрын
Parabéns
@user-xw9wq6or2y Жыл бұрын
Бедные российские мужчины-фигуристы, с ними даже допингом не могут поделиться, чтобы они чисто катались и хорошо прыгали, это сексизм, получается 🤔😱
@I_r_i_ Жыл бұрын
Как и с танцорами. Им вообще ничего не достаётся, всё съедают девочки 😂😂😂 Ему кто-то платит за этот бред, или он психически больной?
@user-xw9wq6or2y Жыл бұрын
@@I_r_i_ таким людям и платить не надо, они сами придумают и поверят в свои же теории без каких-либо доказательств Просто очередной фома неверующий, мол, как так российские девочки могут то, что другие не могут. Хотя те же самые японки тоже прыгали/прыгают квады и ничего А если взять его логику, то получается, что Илья Малинин тоже на допинге, ведь он вообще единственный в мире прыгает 4А
@I_r_i_ Жыл бұрын
@@user-xw9wq6or2y так если посмотреть их СМИ, там одни фейки о войне на Украине. Думаю, что он начал гнать это вранье сначала по своей инициативе, в надежде, что заметят и будут платить горе-блогеру. И раз он продолжает врать на эту тему, значит заметили и платят. А насчет Чена и Малинина у меня и сомнения нет, что на допинге. У Чена же после прокатов шестиквадки даже дыхание не сбивалось. За Малининым не слежу и не смотрела, но и там наверное то же самое? Мишин же говорил, что при его жизни 4А не прыгнут. И все мы помним Симону Байлс, которая без своих наркотиков не смогла выступить на олимпиаде. Я еще на бразильской олимпиаде заметила, что она под препаратами на награждении. Про рекордсмена Фелпса, надеюсь, и так всем всё понятно.
@proeliagamerroblox3539 Жыл бұрын
Is Nathan Chan,Yuzura,Malinin are also drug ? Do you know the answer TSL ?
@stingyshannon701 Жыл бұрын
US sports leagues have notorious histories where they turn a blind eye to doping. NFL and MLB especially have had rampant doping.
@skatefan9495 Жыл бұрын
No. There is nothing unusual about men doing quads and triple axels. It is a legitimate question why the Russian women are the only skaters in the world doing these difficult jumps on a consistent basis.
@skatefan9495 Жыл бұрын
@@stingyshannon701 Every country has cheaters. But the US "sports leagues" don't condone it. Certainly not the USFSA.
@proeliagamerroblox3539 Жыл бұрын
@@skatefan9495 training 8 hours per day make possible many things. And 4A of Malinin is usual thing for you? What doping helping russian girls to have power?
@skatefan9495 Жыл бұрын
@@proeliagamerroblox3539 There is evidence of Russian doping, unlike anything about any American skater. Doping can increase endurance which makes 8 hours of training possible.
@user-sc9xf2vj7n Жыл бұрын
Удивительное дело. Российские фигуристы не участвуют в международных соревнованиях, но до сих пор волнуют всех любителей фигурного катания. Успокойтесь, дорогие дамы и господа. Нас в вашей жизни больше нет и я подозреваю больше не будет. Скорее Россия организует новые свои международные соревнования, чем нашим спортсменам разрешат вернуться. Может это к лучшему. Соскучимся по друг другу, вспомним, что мы люди, а не био роботы.
@I_r_i_ Жыл бұрын
Посмотрите на эти лица на видео, им уже ничего не поможет. Они не похожи на людей. Абсолютные фальшивки.
@lisa-lisa-lisa Жыл бұрын
Baga Chipz is not Irish, they are English
@JohnnyOpera1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying! But the look was similar!
@thesovgc Жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyOpera1 omg she does look like Baga! 😂😂
@lisa-lisa-lisa Жыл бұрын
@@JohnnyOpera1 it is way too similar for someone to be looking like that on purpose unironically
@SxSx13x8 Жыл бұрын
What is this university game they qre talking about? I've never heared about it
@TheSkatingLesson Жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Winter_World_University_Games
@SxSx13x8 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson thanks!
@fionan7311 Жыл бұрын
Also known as Winter Universiade, happens every 2 years (but 2021 was cancelled)
@lindaallison5338 Жыл бұрын
Re choreo sequence- Kanadai’s RD seq has more changes of holds and Latin moves compared to Piper and Paul’s where she’s grinding up against him 🤢and overacting at the judges yet we all know who gets the bigger score. It’s a defacto ordinal mechanism.
@lc4822 Жыл бұрын
Yelim, Haein and Chaeyoun we're named to the 4CC team, Idk why it says Yelim is going to that other thing
@PeiwenTanbassoon821 Жыл бұрын
Again it’s Korea so she could be made to go to both……
@mollykissel9553 Жыл бұрын
I love how if anyone says anything negative wise about Russian skaters (especially the top skaters), people want to use jealousy as an excuse to why someone said that negative thing. Like come on people, use some common sense. Most people just want honest and fair skating for ALL skaters. I could care less if the US women won, I just want competitions to be fair and honest. I like Russian skaters and enjoy watching them, but I am not so naive as to become blind to favoritism (especially with Eteri's camp).
@martaszczesiak6606 Жыл бұрын
I got some abuse on KZfaq for criticising overscoring Valieva (as well as the lack of conclusion for the doping case). There seem to be people who watch all the related videos and target anyone who expresses their doubts. It gives me the vibe of the "best" days of Zagitova vs Medvedeva fan wars. In the end I was scared to put another comment under Valieva's videos...so I'll leave it here: Danny G using someone else's choreo again made me sqeak :))
@KamilaValieva-fan Жыл бұрын
When you are abusing a child, you claim it criticize, when someone doubt and criticize your abusing words, you claim it abusing. So typical of double standard and Anglo-Saxon superity.👎
@martaszczesiak6606 Жыл бұрын
@@KamilaValieva-fan First, I did not "abuse a child", I criticised adults' behaviour related to a child. I wrote that (1) I think judges overscore her. (2) We need the doping case closed. The first part may or may not be true. The second is surely true. With great respect, I'm Polish/Scottish, not Anglo-Saxon or whatever. You seem to forget that I'm a FAN of Russian figure skating. I want to see it thrive in a fair environment - no doping, no favouritism.
@KamilaValieva-fan Жыл бұрын
@@martaszczesiak6606 you are Polish/Scottish, yet you are spiritually Anglo-Saxon. The so called doping is a pure political persecution. Kamila was underscored deliberate in both short program and free program in 2022 Russian Championships if you have adequate knowledge of figure skating.
@martaszczesiak6606 Жыл бұрын
@@KamilaValieva-fan What is the logic behind "political persecution"? The gold was supposed to be given to a Russian anyway, so there would be no gain from framing only one of the three girls. The gold is Russian, no doubt about it. If that had been a deliberate attack, it would have been pointless then...Russia won anyway, doping scandal or not. I don't understand who would benefit from passing the gold from one Russian girl to another. Clearly not Americans who don't care that much about figure skating anyway...(in comparison to football etc.)
@KamilaValieva-fan Жыл бұрын
@@martaszczesiak6606 TMZ is a poison to figure skating. Kamila’s urine sample was taken on 2021 12.25 during the Russian competition, neither her or her coach are stupid enough to take such banned medicine at such time. The urine samples arrived Sweden lab on 2021 12.28 but the testing result was not released until 2022 0208 when Kamila won the group medal for Russia, and USA is the silver medal winner. Who is the 1st beneficial party of the doping scandal? The criminal/result is apparent. It was WADA delayed the testing result unusually and leaked Kamila’s identity which caused such drama and permanent damage for Kamila. Yet nobody accused or plan to sue WADA IOC and media for their crimes. The grandfather’s medicine story proves in further that Kamila was honest & innocent, as within that short response time during Olympics, Kamila was so shocked of the testing result and checked all the possible ways of how TMZ went into her body. Her grandfather did had TMZ to treat his heart disease, so she told CAS the fact. Yet western medias and haters use this info bullied Kamila viciously in further. WADA is an org controlled by USA. WADA has double standards and it’s legal system is 500 years outdated and is evil. WADA grants US and European athelets with doping exemptions secretly while putting a lot common medicines on the ban list without solid scientific proof of boosting performance level. WADA is a political weapon used to persecuting the opponent nations’ talents. The whole WADA CAS, SWISS Court system is extremely corrupted, evil and unfair to athelets. CAS and WADA need to be trialed and reformed. I am not a Russian, I am just a fan of figure skating. I have been watching figure since Michelle Kuan era. I have never seen a figure skating genius like Kamila Valieva. I believe she is innocent and the case need to be dismissed immediately. Kamila is the treasure of this planet and need to be supported, protected. Let this figure skating genius continue skating!
@satanoJ Жыл бұрын
Mao Shimada just cause me all that too. It's the best women FS of the year for me.
@Sunshine-xw1my Жыл бұрын
45:51
@xiaofengfu8528 Жыл бұрын
Why is Japan only sending 1 pairs team to world's? Shouldn't they have 3 spots after their excellent pairs results at laft year's worlds and OG? Hanyu had a quad/3A combo a few years ago (2019?) that was so fun to watch. It's good to see this combo finally being adapted by more skaters.
@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын
They have 3 spots, but only one senior level pairs team.
@alexal.8184 Жыл бұрын
Japan only has one senior eligible pair that has the minimums - their other one doesn't work with the age requirements I don't think
@nvadqs Жыл бұрын
what is a combo as opposed to a sequence of jumps?
@xiaofengfu8528 Жыл бұрын
@@nvadqs hmm, not sure. Maybe combo refers a few elements grouped together (combo jumps, combo spins), whereas sequence is longer (footwork)?
@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын
@@xiaofengfu8528 A combo is two or more jumps in combination where the second (or third) jump happens right out of the landing of the previous jump. For example 4T 3T is a common jump combination for men. A sequence is when two or more jumps are linked together but the skater basically has to reset themselves before the next jump. This year the men are doing a lot of 3A 2A sequences. Any time an axel is the second jump it's considered a sequence because the skater can't just go right up into it since it has a forward take-off. They have to reset themselves for the second jump. In the past, sequences were worth less points than combos so no one did them, but the rules changed to make them worth the same full value as combos so skaters are doing more sequences this season.
@Jeremy-wp4yh Жыл бұрын
The obvious overscoring of Kamilla to the point where even the Russian audience were upset was hilarious. But I think they're doing that to maintain the idea that eteri can have skaters that last more than 1 season even though that's false.
@nataliatop4716 Жыл бұрын
I see that you are an international figure skating judge 👎🏻 So talk about things you don't understand well.
@Jeremy-wp4yh Жыл бұрын
@@nataliatop4716 we have eyes and so do you... Corrupt judging doesn't change the rules
@nataliatop4716 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yh your eyes not enough to understand correctly. Pretext.
@Jeremy-wp4yh Жыл бұрын
@@nataliatop4716 I assume you had some of grandpa's water.
@primalcritters Жыл бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yh you should try Grandpa's water.
@tomkroh2712 Жыл бұрын
It was truly 2 different sports. Dave you couldn't be more right. It's jarring to watch.
@vytautassvanys9281 Жыл бұрын
It really is on a whole other level - it was like night and day. This is evidenced by the interest of the audience. Over 21,000 viewers watched the Russian championship live on KZfaq without any advertising and promotion, while only about 2,000 watched live the widely advertised GP final. The stands were also empty in Turin, unlike in Krasnoyarsk.
@tomkroh2712 Жыл бұрын
@@vytautassvanys9281 the jarring difference wasn't the audience. But you aren't wrong per se.
@mai3334 Жыл бұрын
Russia will see new stars every season, but to be truly martyr’d, a skater has to have hyper flexibility, a cute face, and a pained expression (Valieva, Yulia). There is nothing more emotional about Valieva compared to Akatieva. People are just awed by her flexibility.
@dame_ys Жыл бұрын
Well, Evgeni’s recovering is definitely not inspirated by doping if you’re trying to say that 😅
@user-vi2iw3dy9p Жыл бұрын
on the Russian TV channel one, they say that Kamila Valieva is an Olympic champion 😂😂😂
@L.Spencer Жыл бұрын
I guess they mean the team event? Like Gabby Daleman
@KamilaValieva-fan Жыл бұрын
She is
@KG-jg4zn Жыл бұрын
@@L.Spencer of course, they imply the team event. They always do this, that seems kinda strange to me, but that's how it is
@L.Spencer Жыл бұрын
@@KG-jg4zn You may say 'of course' but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't mean the team event.
@KG-jg4zn Жыл бұрын
@@L.Spencer yes, I see what you mean. But I always notice this when they say "Olympic champions" about those who are winners only in the team event. I'm not really sure that it's right
@user-yi6no6ov1p Жыл бұрын
Every time that there are people better than the Americans, they'd say: "oh, yea, it's defo drugs, it's artificial and unfair". So funny to watch these guys that have never even worked out half that difficult training sessions, regimes, dedicating their entire life to one single goal, to talk conspiracies and crap about these dedicated athletes worldwide.
@fotomagrol Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣dude the best skaters now are from Japan and South Korea...so your theory is just garbage...haahaha
@mariaritapieraccini3501 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!!!!
@evelinevale9813 Жыл бұрын
they just bitching around, one should not take them seriously
@I_r_i_ Жыл бұрын
Про своих Чена и Малинина молчат в тряпочку
@stingyshannon701 Жыл бұрын
The gold and silver medallists at the GP final, Sakamoto's sudden turnaround in form and conditioning at a domestic event is all very suspicious. It's so suspicious Mai Mihara with arthritis and living in pain can win a gold medal against the best in the world. This is not normal. Then you look at her tiny fragile build, tiny diminutive height for a 23 year old it's so suspicious and strange. Akateva at 15 is the same height and build (Akateva are lot stronger build). Then Levito is so thin and fragile looking yet some how second best in the world. Not to mention her jump technique being bad she's going to hurt herself. She'll be forced out of the early like Liu.
@jquibbler Жыл бұрын
My Rion really flopped here. Her program is such a fav of mine this year.
@angieortizurena3327 Жыл бұрын
When you know you’ll win everything (or at least be 2nd if you fuck up that much) despite your single jumps, falls, wobbly landings and robotic performances, it costs nothing to smile and be more of a personality… (if she would have landed that 3A, she would have been the winner, there were like 2 points of difference from Akatieva)
@suetavakoli Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda worried about the energy at the Worlds as the Japanese don't cheer anymore -most likely because of covid restrictions- and only clap. Imo that's the reason for the missing energy :( Also, Happy Holidays!
@blueclover9918 Жыл бұрын
Japanese traditionally aren't big reactors in the stands anyway
@lollypop2414 Жыл бұрын
I agree. The lack of cheering, or even just general crowd noise, really takes away from the energy of the event.
@PeiwenTanbassoon821 Жыл бұрын
Agree. I was so looking forward to a even bigger cheer for Kaori at the NHK than SA and I was stunned by how dead the event felt despite the bigger venue and crowd
@bobuddy3513 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I believe Shoma and Kao even remarked that it was great to hear cheering at Skate Canada...Too bad JPN can't allow cheering WITH masks.
@blueclover9918 Жыл бұрын
@@bobuddy3513 it really has nothing to do with masks. That's the way Japanese crowds are. Many years ago Japanese crowds hardly clapped. Well, they would make one clap and that was it. They've actually come a long way so don't make assumptions about why unless you know the history
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