Maserati vs The World - TheSmokingTire

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Maserati isn’t playing around with its new Grecale Trofeo. Based on the Alfa Stelvio platform, the Grecale features style, performance, features and quality previously unseen in anything from the boutique Italian brand. It has the twin-turbo V6 engine from the MC20, a stellar, balanced chassis, a great stereo, comfortable seats, and a supercar soundtrack. But how does it compare to the X3M, Macan GTS, and Jaguar F-Pace SVR?
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@TheSmokingTire Жыл бұрын

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@omg_stoppit Жыл бұрын

Matt's watch ID? That's a gorgeous chrono.

@nickbaum679 Жыл бұрын

Just and fyi: Got a typo on the video for the website.

@jody024 Жыл бұрын

Maserati engineering doing everything Audi doesn't, i like it.

@crfrider57 Жыл бұрын

I would love to have the Grecale Trofeo....BUT...... We do own a 2022 Stelvio Quadrifoglio which we absolutlely love. I don't feel the Grecale Trofeo is worth $38k more than our Stelvio QV. The MSRP on our QV was $90,470 and we paid $75,500, The Grecale Trofeo in an equal spec is $114k. We have had two Giulias (2021 Ti Sport Q4 is current daily) and a 2017 Maserati Granturismo and all have been more reliable than our Audis previously owned (so tired of non-owners bashing reliabiity)

@etaesu83 4 ай бұрын

The comment I was looking for

@houmandehesh740 2 ай бұрын

I own a Grecale: the design of the infotainment is horrific. So is the placement of the gear selectors and the stupid idea to have them as buttons. They are clunky and dont engage quickly. Also right above the touch screen for the climate control, which means the sensitive climate controls get inadvertently switched off/on. These design flaws wear you down over the time. - Do you enjoy the three chimes when you start the car? Or having to hit the “accept” button every time? - Do you like the loud sound of the turn signal? - The audio mute also doesn't hold. Many things like notifications in your connected phone make the music come back on. - Sadly there is a reason Porsche sells 4x more Macans than the entire annual production of Maserati. - Oh and I forgot: good luck giving your car to a valet. You have to give them instructions through the open window. The parking brakes only automatically disengage if you are wearing a seatbelt.

@conefcol000 Жыл бұрын

"Finance like nobody is watching" 😂. That said, I hope Maserati can sell these and apply some pressure to Porsche.

@redseven485 Жыл бұрын

That'd be nice, but I doubt it. Porsche still is technologically ahead and their sales numbers would probably confirm that.

@jaioncebollero1168 Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the case

@jasonsong86 Жыл бұрын

Love this SUV. In a sea of BMW and Porsche, this is a very nice all rounder with style and the performance to match.

@JayB8319 Жыл бұрын

Honestly guys, this is the perfect balance of new and old formatting for TST. 👌

@dannyroz Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you guys going back to your roots and making videos like these again. I would like to see the return of personal tuner cars, though. But that's none of my business.

@The_Stanman Жыл бұрын

Yes!! So glad to see video like this again.

@TheSmokingTire Жыл бұрын

We have videos of a supercharged ISF and a crazy swapped Scirocco coming up!

@dannyroz Жыл бұрын

@@TheSmokingTire F Yeah

@thehumanoid6543 Жыл бұрын

doesn't seem to be working. 15K views only. I love the video, but I doubt if other people did.

@The_Stanman Жыл бұрын

@@thehumanoid6543 the video was just released. Looking at view counts for videos that have been out a while, their new format doesn't seem to getting better views than the old format. However I believe Matt said where new format does better is avg watch time. My hypothesis is that if you consider the incremental time required for the new format, the ROI isn't that much better. Overall it seems like SmokingTire's new business model is making money on the storage facilities, podcasting/Patreon, and writing. The KZfaq channel is more about supporting the brand for those other endeavors.

@spuddie3207 Жыл бұрын

Is it just me or is that seat bouncing around a hell of alot.

@lucasbishop3125 Жыл бұрын

thought the same thing

@johnramsayskier Жыл бұрын

Came here to say this, it’s about all I could see other than Matt was flying.

@The_Stanman Жыл бұрын

Came here to say the same exact thing. Really odd - must not very secured and/or solid?

@gwgrote5 Жыл бұрын

@@lucasbishop3125 yeah, what's up with that? you'll have to take a Dramamine

@stefndogg Жыл бұрын

Had the same thought. Looks like its not properly mounted or something.

@fit_pharmd4830 Жыл бұрын

**Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the launch at the 2:30 mark you can clearly see the rear end of the car slowly squat like a sprinter about to take off on a 100 meter sprint. So cool to see

@GeraldRisch 3 ай бұрын

Test drove one this weekend and even at 30 punching it, the gracale squats and goes.

@v12-s65 Ай бұрын

@@GeraldRisch I have it at 30'000 miles right now. The engine is so damn brutal.

@rileyhaynes4669 Жыл бұрын

Great video lads! Loving the elevated production quality. Your hard work pays off. I'm a Maserati, Aston Martin and Bentley salesman and glad to hear you are rooting for Maserati. We just got the new GranTurismos in stock and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

@fletch9702 Жыл бұрын

Can't believe how much the driver seat moves. Was it not screwed down correctly? On that standing start I thought Matt would end up in the back seats.

@NathansGarage Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking!

@jonlosito2004 10 ай бұрын

Maybe it's the Maserati built quality. I'm not surprised.

@wilson3246 11 ай бұрын

14:11 I work at a rental car company and we actually do have a Grecale in our fleet. In fact, just today I had to show a customer how to shift into drive, lmao.

@dil6969 Жыл бұрын

Between the two, I still prefer the Stelvio. It's more unique-looking and there was actually some thought given to the infotainment and HVAC controls. Even if this is faster in a straight line, I've driven the Stelvio QV and it's way faster than can be utilized on the street anyway.

@juanbugatti490 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video guys! And what a beautiful car, expect for the weird screen in the center. Based on my experience with the Giulia and Stelvio, I’m sure it drives amazing.

@jimspace Жыл бұрын

This was a joy to watch, you’ve nailed the format to the second

@itsmegilbo Жыл бұрын

I want to say a quick thank you Matt and Zack for the high quality of these reviews and really appreciate the time and effort you're putting in

@danshome-w5h Жыл бұрын

Great jobs chaps! The new style has brought me back to the channel 🤘🏼

@cjtr83 Жыл бұрын

Man, You guys are absolutely nailing these videos. Superb 👏🏻

@Thaiseaweed Жыл бұрын

Beautiful video! Reminds me of the drive /tuned days!

@kochj23 Жыл бұрын

This new change in format is perfect! Also, It is always amusing when you hear the free music used by another channel (Valley Racing's end credits music).

@mrdeeds72 Жыл бұрын

I really miss watching your vids. Gonna watch more!

@mikepelch1969 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Thanks guys!

@jamesscozzari5008 Жыл бұрын

Sounds exactly like the Quadrifoglio. Weird since the Nettuno has the same block, but different heads. I wonder how similar the detuned Nettuno is to the Alfa's 690T. Anything based on the Giorgio platform is going to be great.

@TakuroSpirit77 Жыл бұрын

Radio volume slider over there is for the passenger. If you drive a lot of Chrysler products with volume/tune buttons on the back of the wheel, you use those as a driver 99% of the time.

@DavidM-mb1vx Жыл бұрын

Wtf cares?

@TakuroSpirit77 Жыл бұрын

@@DavidM-mb1vx Zach commented on it, watch the video. And obviously YOU cared enough to leave a reply.

@v12-s65 Ай бұрын

enjoying this at 30'000 miles right now. This motor is insane, if you get a Grecale, has to be the Trofeo

@billnorblat4047 Жыл бұрын

It farts violently on upshift...

@incognitoguitars9999 Жыл бұрын

Fun video. Video looks amazing.

@thegirthquake8574 Жыл бұрын

Hate to say it, but if you don't like the QP5, you just don't have a soul, man. It wasn't perfect, but it was gorgeous and sounded like sex on wheels.

@M67v Жыл бұрын

Apparently it drove very well too especially with the ZF 6HP

@Eidrian111 Жыл бұрын

They are great and the sport GT S isn’t unreliable. I have one and it’s truly great.

@M67v Жыл бұрын

@@Eidrian111 They’re reliable??? How many miles is on yours?

@papa_pt Жыл бұрын

this is 100% correct. When they showed a pic of one and said "boring" in the intro I thought WTF

@papa_pt Жыл бұрын

@@M67v I've read they're a lot more reliable than you'd expect, especially with ZF. The major common issue that seems to come up is the engine variator

@deancostello14 Жыл бұрын

I really like this, I think I like it more than a Stelvio and that's saying something. Hope people actually buy them.

@WBizarre Жыл бұрын

Great video. For some reason in pictures it looks like a Ford Escape-sized crossover, so the size was a surprise.

@kevincockburn7805 Жыл бұрын

I agree, the proportions are obviously very good, so it looks smaller than it is. It does look good for this segment of cars

@plizzle Жыл бұрын

nice watch, matt, wish i was in the market for that collection.

@TheFlunu Жыл бұрын

Autodromo Chronograph!!!

@conspicuoustraverser7375 Жыл бұрын

What the heck!

@sanxi34 Жыл бұрын

HOLY SHIT!!! It squats when you brake stance it!!!! That's cool!! Now, on to the rest of the video! =P

@marcinhernik1270 Жыл бұрын

Im watching and getting into the jam and all of the sudden it hits me! I've heard this before? It's Mike and JJ reviewing cars now in minecraft format?

@YouRedix Жыл бұрын

I'm proud to have worked on this car's air suspension. Seems like a decent product overall

@chadhaire1711 Жыл бұрын

yeah....suspension is so good it needed to have work on it already......sure Goober......................LOL

@RackTacular-cp6hu Жыл бұрын

Was that a fart at 14:43? Lolololol

@scorpionking8661 Жыл бұрын

Forza Italia🇮🇹🇮🇹👍👍👍

@MikeMatz13 Жыл бұрын

Autodromo spotted!! Nice Matt

@JK061996 Жыл бұрын

6:08 in recent motorsport history the MC12 dominated FIA GT between 2005 and 2010

@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t that a rebodied Ferrari Enzo rather than a genuine Mazza product?

@joe718gt4 Жыл бұрын

@neilturner6749 pretty much.

@RealRaynedance Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to hear the "Yerrus" crowd try to pronounce the name of this one.

@hardcoreep Жыл бұрын

That looks like a great road.

@Royahmar Жыл бұрын

helluva banging PRX there Matt!

@flyingphoenix113 Жыл бұрын

I don't think that's a PRX. Looks like a limited edition Autodromo.

@carsaregood911 Жыл бұрын

It's the Autodromo Group B S4

@frankengels5275 Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting dial, what watch is Matt wearing?

@MrC72k Жыл бұрын

Excellent. I’ll take one in 2 years after it depreciates 75%

@donttruckhere Жыл бұрын

it wont maserrati is back

@MrC72k Жыл бұрын

@@donttruckhere lol sure boss

@TheGardenMG Жыл бұрын

1:15 Pagani and Koenigsegg : "Am I a joke to you?"

@williamdrijver4141 10 ай бұрын

Looks great in dark blue.

@JakeBullingtonTV Жыл бұрын

“Finance like nobody’s watching” might be the best quote in the whole piece 😂😂😂

@lifeatitsbest410 Жыл бұрын

Matt, the 2002-2019 Maserati motors are literally made in the Ferrari factory in Modena, designed by a Ferrari designer, and given shared engine codes: F136 (na) and F154 (turbo). The only major differences were the crankshaft and some intake plumbing amongst a few other small tweeks. The is coming from a biased F136r

@dtmenace Жыл бұрын

That driver’s seat seems to move around A LOT with a LG human behind the wheel.

@claudegabriel Жыл бұрын

look at that beautiful Autodromo Group B Rally Chrono on your wrist ;)

@julianevans9548 Жыл бұрын

Like all crossovers, it would handle better if it was a saloon/sedan or hatchback - i.e. not needlessly tall.

@Gearbhall Жыл бұрын

unfortunately nobody buys sedans anymore

@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын

@@Gearbhall Car people still do.

@Justin_GFM Жыл бұрын

@@jareknowak8712 Car people don’t always drive sales and that’s what companies are looking for, crossovers and SUVs are the hot thing and have been for years

@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын

@@Justin_GFM I agree with You. Your statement doesnt disprove mine.

@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын

No one drives these vehicles in the real world how Matt, Zack and other car journo’s do on test, so who gives a fig if crossover handling is only 95% as good as the equivalent sedan. Most people much prefer the higher seating position giving better visibility and ease of entry/exit. Grow up or just get a proper sports car if you’re that desperate…

@VG22. Жыл бұрын

Yayyy!!! MASERATI'S back!!!!

@dumisanimasilela2673 Жыл бұрын

I like this car. You can tell it's built by people who still care about driving. That engine is a masterpiece. Well done maserati.

@90boiler Жыл бұрын

It is basically Stelvio in nice clothing, engine is Stelvio with some add ons

@ParagMathurmd Жыл бұрын

Is this good enough that's it's worth considering with the smaller engine? Big power covers a lot of sins. A sign of the overall excellence of the Macan is that its in the conversation while 90 bhp down on power. How does the $75k version with the 325 hp 4-cyl engine compete?

@bogosian. Жыл бұрын

Autodromo watch looks amazing.

@flyingphoenix113 Жыл бұрын

Is that the Hodinkee edition Group B Chrono?

@bogosian. Жыл бұрын

@@flyingphoenix113 yes, sold out already.

@carsaregood911 Жыл бұрын

@@bogosian. not all of them

@cmgeb1 Жыл бұрын

What’s better - stelvio quadrofoglio or this trofeo in terms of performance?

@atarijones5056 Жыл бұрын

Matt looks like diddy Kong in Mario kart but what we'll edited and filmed video this style filming is great it makes the channel look more expensive! 😅

@LilleyAdam Жыл бұрын

If my car upshifted like that I don't think I could take it out in public.

@sinisa3772 Жыл бұрын

Fantastičan

@Resist_Oppression Жыл бұрын

While I don't care for X-overs/SUVs, definitely looking forward to more tuner coverage.

@HumanStateOfEmergency Жыл бұрын

Is that seat on springs?

@JP-hb4mv Жыл бұрын

This type of video is good! Not as formulaic as the typical canyon drive

@masimilianzo Жыл бұрын

What is the watch that Matt is wearing?

@whoischxse Жыл бұрын

Question to be begged, How does it compare to its sibling the Stelvio QV?

@Conker187777 Жыл бұрын

What watch are you wearing in this video Matt?

@carsaregood911 Жыл бұрын

Autodromo Group B S4

@You__GG Жыл бұрын

The engine layout looks exactly like the one on the quadrifoglio

@JC-vk6ii Жыл бұрын

I like it,...at some point they will get it right, they are way closer now!

@trevorsutherland5263 Жыл бұрын

This car was designed for me---at least the Modena trim is. In two years as a CPO purchase with Maserati's unlimited mileage warranty. Porsches retain value to a degree no other brand can match....they just do However a CPO Maserati is an excellent luxury sports value imho. You can rack up unlimited miles worry free for three years, and since the big depreciation hit took place before you bought, you get to enjoy driving a 1%-er car for 20%-er money.

@MBisFrenchy Жыл бұрын

Porsche sport cars maybe that Cayenne and Macan won't hold well either.

@gavinsullivan9015 Жыл бұрын

I watched this just to support the channel but this seems like a nice car! Although paying 10-15% over the Porsche to get the Maserati badge might be an ask. But agree with the sentiment sometimes its nice to have a car that not everyone else drives…

@glucia2223 Жыл бұрын

Yup. That’s what steered me away from it. Cross shopped it with a Macan GTS and chose the Porsche. They have a pricing problem with the Maserati.

@zeomarmob 5 ай бұрын

Ugly is complimentary. Included for free. How can one company design both Levante sport and this, Is mind bugling.

@MikeB85 Жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure this would outperform the Levante Trofeo, even being down 70hp. The interior looks better too.

@singingLeaf123 7 ай бұрын

how does this compare to a stelvio quad.? is it worth the price hike?

@BigShmeels Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who hates the fart sound on upshifts??

@tommygu6376 Жыл бұрын

Why is Matt giving some John Davis vibes in this vid😂😂

@Paws403 Жыл бұрын

I think this is a pretty good alternative for people want something different to the (now) run of the mill Macans. Will it maintain value like one? Probably not. Will it be as reliable as one? Also probably not. You can't deny it's italian flair though in a sea of german products.

@chamade166 Жыл бұрын

Would personally never trade my Crosstour for one. Japanese know reliability and sturdiness. The Honda V6 takes well to aftermarket blowers and then it’s basically game over for Europe.

@carsaregood911 Жыл бұрын

@@chamade166 wtf 😂

@papa_pt Жыл бұрын

@@carsaregood911 bruh I'm cracking up too 😂 watch out for the turbo crosstour world beater

@hamronD73 Жыл бұрын

@@chamade166 hahahahahahaha

@glucia2223 Жыл бұрын

As someone who owns a Macan GTS, I agree. I was actually considering this car, until they priced it abkut $15k more than a GTS. And while you’re right that Macans have become “common,” at least there are fewer GTS running around. They’re pretty sweet. Maserati messed up their pricing.

@michaeld3404 Жыл бұрын

It farts every upshift, nice

@dillongargano9282 Жыл бұрын

I love that this car is a thing. Love that it’s very good. For 100k tho? Like STARTING at 100… no way man. Base should be 80s. Fully fully loaded low 100s would make way more sense. Can’t imagine spending 120k for a loaded on of these.

@leonardr6704 Жыл бұрын

Based on reviews so far, this seems like a killer in its segment, price aside.

@KUROSHURA 6 ай бұрын

I want one I want one bad

@ak2112 Жыл бұрын

“A pretty good car. A pretty complete package.” For 6 figures, I’d want a lot more.

@tehbrutenextdoor Жыл бұрын

Just gonna say: Great job on the video guys. I was two days late because you've programmed my monkey brain to look for smiling mugs. #algorithm #monkeybrain lol

@DBGMLV Жыл бұрын

Offtopic question for Matt: What kind of Royal Oak is that ? Kind of looks like a smartwatch verion of it, but as far as I know no such thing exists. Plus I doubt you'd buy something of the sort.

@jdhazan Жыл бұрын

It’s the Autodromo Hodinkee Group B

@braydenkirk5820 Жыл бұрын

That watch of Matt's is beautiful, what is it?

@Sumdumdad Жыл бұрын

No ventilated seats? Heated seats only for the front? For $51k+ the lack of such simple features is unacceptable.

@sergio_81 Жыл бұрын

Matt´s watch? What it is?

@carsaregood911 Жыл бұрын

Autodromo Group B S4

@MrLph427 Жыл бұрын

I want the mc20 engine upgrade please - extra 100 bhp and 85 lb ft please

@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын

Then you Sir need to grow up!

@Themonkeyman918 Жыл бұрын

What about the dbx?

@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын

Isn’t that double the money?

@zonapainter Жыл бұрын

I love the exterior styling and for my money the interior is nicer than any of the competition. If I was spending $100K on a crossover, this would be it.

@YuriTereshyn Жыл бұрын

SUV of the year

@MrMatteo83 Жыл бұрын

Lol

@avdogrebovic5398 Жыл бұрын

buy it Matt

@darkmatter6714 Жыл бұрын

That seat is mounted on a sponge

@papa_pt Жыл бұрын

Uhhh you show the Quattroporte as you say "boring".. no way that was intentional

@AndrewSVO Жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity to say that it won't go 185 but it'll sure as hell feel like it.

@letd1995 Жыл бұрын

It sounds just like my x3m

@greaser3069 Жыл бұрын

surprisingly I like it, but man is this thing gonna be one big headache with not only the price but with all the breakdowns and electrical gremlins

@gregmcable Жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to the journalists who are forced to review these shopping carts on wheels as if they are remotely interesting (or even have many practical advantages) to actual enthusiasts.

@CapnT87 Жыл бұрын

Don’t know fully about the U.S., but in Canada this is priced 30-40k above all of its competition including the Macan GTS, F-Pace SVR, X3/X4M, Stelvio QF, GLC63 (not that it’s sold anymore)….don’t think it brings that much more value than those though. I’ve got the SVR and I couldn’t even think about affording the Maserati and I’d be giving up the V8 anyways.

@myemailiscool Жыл бұрын

It's about $10-15k USD more than the X3M, F pace SVR or Stelvio. Macan GTS people always spec those super expensive so the median sales price is probably similar. I do think the Grecale Trofeo is overpriced, I'd just get the mid trim 2.0 and still get the super nice interior, space and looks, and call it a day. BUT, also if i'm spending 6 figures, I want exclusivity. Which this car would give you, you'd probably never see another one on the road. X3M, Macan GTS, our here they are a dime a dozen.

@CapnT87 Жыл бұрын

@@myemailiscool Yea, the interior does set it apart - and midrange acceleration is probably at the top. Sounds great for a V6 too. Anyways, I’ve got an order in for an M4 Comp XDrive haha

@myemailiscool Жыл бұрын

@@CapnT87 good choice! you're moving in the proper direction, crossover --> coupe 😂

@CapnT87 Жыл бұрын

@@myemailiscool Actually back to the right direction haha. I had a C63S coupe until I couldn’t take looking at it in the garage for 5 months of Canadian winter so I saw the Jag as the next best thing…but now…#xDrive