At first I didn’t really like the viper shape but after using it for a few weeks it feels like an extension of my hand. I usually prefer shapes with a hump in the back (s2, xm1, za) but I’m so happy I gave this shape a chance. I love it!

thank you, finally a review that skips the tech sheets and gets down to how it actually feels to use. very helpful, thanks alot. also impressive how much energy you put into that, its hard to be so present for such a long take!

Thank you for the compassion sir! Still using the g pro superlight but still might pick up that v2 if it ever goes on sale

spot on with the analogies for button feeling. Viper V2 clicks feel like brown tactile switches on a keyboard and the side buttons of the GPX are mushy like the buttons on a controller. Really helped me put it into perspective. the scroll wheels being a road block vs a speed bump. These are great ways of putting it

The V2 is incredible. Best mouse ive ever used. Genuinely feels like an extension of my arm when i’m aiming.

Thank you iv been trying to figure out between these two for a long long time, much appreciated for the content it did help me make a decision on the Logitech G light bc my hands are larger and i desire a better fit for my hand.

Ive had both, went with Viper at first, the left handed buttons bothered me, had to get use to them and the low profile just didn't sit well with me, I need the hump as well, loved the G pro super light almost immediately.

Damn this is by far the best comparison video between the V2 Pro and Superlight on KZfaq. Outstanding video. Well done.

Shape is king. I have both and I don't like how slippery the G Pro feels. The coating along with how small and short it is, makes it hard for me to hold onto it and I constantly have to adjust my grip. I don't have to do that with the Viper.

I used the g pro superlight for almost a year and loved it but i just bought the viper v2 pro and it basically came down to just the shape being a better fit for my grip, just felt better and natural for some reason. Other than that, all the technical shit they perform the same. Also the side buttons are easier to hit on the viper, that could he a pro or con depending on how you grip. As far as weight cant tell the difference.

random mouse but for those looking for one, consider the za13c, holy hell mine just came in and im instantly feeling more control and already getting better results in val

Woah, I didn't even know you uploaded. I literally clicked on your channel when you commented on Boardzys new video, and it LITERALLY uploaded right when I got here. Wow.

Another great upload techne. Love the ending lol.

Thx for the video! Do you have a Viper vs Deathadder?

Just bought a Viper V2. Im pretty hyped for those new side buttons. The viper ultimate always gave me issues when trying to press them.

great review. can you tell me if the middle mouse click down on the razer is as smooth and quick as the Logitech? i ask cause i use the middle mouse for apex legends enemy pings and need a quick double click with middle mouse

the viper flares out at the back, very much worth mentioning. the gpx feels more slim in the back, but the viper feels fat in the back and the end of it makes contact with my hand in uncomfortable places

How about the software? I didn't see any comparison there. I like somftware that allows me to make in-depth macros and also assign profiles to the applications upon launch.

I've owned the OG G Pro, had and returned the Superlight X, own a Viper Ultimate, and I've mained an XM1r for over a year....... till I got the Viper v2 Pro. Yeah, I get it, that price is hefty. Logitech pulled the same stunt with their Superlight X with less features at the same price point. I have to admit, I really had to get used to Viper v2 Pro's shape in conjunction with that super light weight. But after a few hours with it, it's like an aimbot for me. At the end of the day, either mouse will do fine depending on your preference in shape. I seriously could not tell the difference between Razer's "new sensor" vs. Logitech's "new sensor". If I had to nitpick, the coating for the G Pros (both generations) were super slippery and I had no choice but to use the grips.

Great review! You just earned a sub 😁 I honestly couldn't decide which one to buy, but it seems the GPX is more suitable for me as I have a palm grip and most reviews claim the GPX has a better feel overall. Viper also has some QC issues.

The Pulsar mice are a great alternative to these though for $80. I was using the viper v2 and my hand was just cramping too much trying to claw it for long periods, so I picked up the pulsar and I'm not disappointed at all. I claw with my pinky curled back and ergo actually works well for that.

If you claw grip the EC2 or Deathadder, the Viper feels like that, but without all of the extra bulk.

I'm still using my g305 lithium AAA battery mod with hyper glides. Superlight is 100$ more, and I still don't see that big of an upgrade.

I'd say that bouncing thing on the gpx is the tension mechanism for the switches

I’ve been using the g pro superlight for a year now and I’ve never been disappointed. It’s so good!

I have the first g pro the original not super light I enjoy the feel of the g pro much more than the razor nice but I enjoy the side buttons much more on viper but enjoy the clicks on Logitech more than the viper my only issue is double clicking on Logitech but I don’t have that issue very often only when I put a lot of pressure into it.

Just ordered the super light today come from the viper wasn’t gonna pay $150 for a lighter viper when it’s already super light I think I got used to ergonomic shape but am gonna like that I’m getting away from it . Went ahead and ordered a hk Venus with cherry red browns as well let’s go

Hey what are those grips you're using on the g pro in this video? Is there a link for those somewhere? I have the superlight and it does get harder to control with sweat on my hands after long gaming sessions.

Looks like i gotta add the v2 to my line up. I've got the og version as well as the gpxs.

you sold me on the g pro superlight . lol but damn i wish razer had a viper mini wireless. cause i loved the mini kinda just want a wireless mouse atm

I hope i can play with the Superlight cuz im currently using the Deathadder V2 but i dont like the Shape anymore and cant stand the Left and Right Mouse Button Shape anymore. I've used so many different mice, back in the days. I always was a Palm Grip user and used heavier Mice most of the time. I hope the Superlight isn't too light for me. What's your recommendation for me? My hand size is 19 cm x 10.5 cm.

No usb C, is not the least to think about, remember the premium that is paid for a mouse like this. I hate looking for the Logitech cable to charge my mouse since it's the only device on the house still with ancient micro usb connection.

I returned my v2 pro. superlights shape is just much more comfortable with the hump and I slightly perform better because of it.

I think you should mention the switches. The G Pro X Superlight wont last as long, as it has Omron 20M's, so it has 20M clicks. The razer viper v2 pro has optical switches, so and it is rated for 90M clicks before it breaks. Good review though!

Just heard that bloody rattle in G Pro at 0:57... I just got mine yesterday and I'm having same issue here. Its very common as far as I know. In my opinion it is a great piece of gear but If I had received it like that two years ago for 150 I would immediately send it back. I paid 90 with postage so Im happy with the product as it is but I'll still get it fixed. Apparently it is the battery that is not glued properly. When it comes to build quality I think Razer wins. Not saying that viper is worth 150 because its not and theres no question about it. Logitech is not bad either. My Master MX3 kicks ass in every aspect. I also own Razer Naga Trinity and Basilisk V3. Those mice are brill but not without the faults. Trinity after 3 years ( wasn't used much as I was gaming on Laptop and PS4 back then) started to loose signal. Maybe it was sensor or cable, I dont really know. Then I went for Basilisk V3 and after a month or so I had double click on the right button. So again you never know what you gonna get but for 150 you MUST receive a flawless product and I think Logitech didn't deliver it in my case and opinion. I'll get Viper v2 when the price gonna come down to see what really those two brands deliver in top tier mice segment and what is the experience.

ive abused my g pro x and the left mouse click is just shining brighter than my future

Love the energy!! Great review lol

Viper is better for me. The GPRO slips out of my hand and the grips feels awkward even with grip tape. The Viper fits my grip way better. So even though they advertise the GPRO as fitting any grip, it doesn't. It was so bad and didn't fit my grip style. The Viper was like 3x better with my grip. I recommend considering your grip style before buying either expensive mice. GPRO would be way more comfortable for people who lean towards palm grip. Viper is better for claw grip leaning players. I do claw/fingertip style and the fingertip style comes in when i need an extra extention on a flick shot. Works well in any shooting game... CSGO, Valorant, CoD. But that's just me and my grip style.

Love the content as always techne!

personally im really disappointed with the corepadz griptape, i use it on my GPX and preferred the btl griptape over it alot.

well, it is really amazing to see how each gamer is different!, some gamers need the hump, and I personally find it really really uncomfortable, I love the low height of the Viper.

I have the 2 models at home and I can say that the sensor and the movements thanks to the skates are better on the Razer Viper V2Pro model, lighter and more comfortable.

Twice ! my side buttoms on my g pro superlight broke after couple of months. I actually switched to an old Razer Deathheader untill prices will go down a bit

Is there something cheaper than the Razer Viper V2 Pro (closer to the G Pro price point say) that has USB-C? - I like the G Pro but I cannot bring myself to buy a MicroUSB device in 2022!

Hello! Im about to buy a new mouse (i have g502) and i dont know if i should get the gpx or the viper v2 pro. In my country the gpx is around 30-40 euro cheaper so im not sure if the viper still eorth it.😊

For somenone who has the FK2-B as main, how is the feel of the Viper? I want to get one but since it has slightly bigger measurements than the fk2, i'm a little worried that it'd feel too much different.

What's funny is my hand doesn't touch even the hump on the G-Pro. They are tiny and I only finger tip them. My problem is I'm worried about double-click. Does the superlight have this same issue as the First G-Pro?

Superlight shape is so much better to my hand however the clicks are much better in Viper V2 Pro, tbh superlight clicks feel cheap, especially the side buttons, they're mushy...... We need that Viper mini wireless mouse I feel like it's gonna be perfect for my hand

I want to try the new viper because I used to own the first viper and while it was great at the time the extra side buttons kinda irritated my pinky. The only thing is that price ain’t worth it for me, I’ll wait for a price discount or maybe someone local to me will sell one for a good price 👌

You deserve every sub you have. Always great content

I know plenty of players who play on a 240hz monitor at the highest level who don't use optical switches or speed switches, I'm one of them and I use a custom. It's a huge misconception that you want speed switches at a high level, because it doesn't matter in the end. It doesn't give you an advantage

Such a great review. I have the same conclusion, currently sticking to the logitech because of the shape, its such a great shape imo. The Razer is better made though and 100% worth buying as well.

im a razer fan and recently bought viper ultimate for £65 with the dock. But between these two i would get superlight since it is £50 cheaper

Razer products used to be a meme merely 10 years ago And now they are S tier in so many departments Happy to see this change, and loving the viper mini. Maybe will upgrade to viper v2 pro, or a v3 pro if it releases by then

I switched to mouse and keyboard about a year ago and when I did I bought both of these. I love gaming and I play at a pretty high level on Overwatch, valorant, and fortnite. with that being said, my primary focus is aiming and how well the mouse feels. I also use an artisan zero mousepad and if ykyk. the viper v2 has better build quality and buttons. the sensor is better and it plays better for most grips. I use claw so it naturally fits my hand. gpro is great but I hate the side buttons and it feels much slower. it’s probably dpi deviation between companies but I will say I am able to have a faster sense using the razer but still have the same control. I still go back and forth between them because most the pros I watch do use a gpro so I’ve been trying to fall in love with it but I just can’t lol. also I use 2000hz polling rate which is only achievable via the razer 4k dongle. which actually gets up to 8k now!! I found that 2000hz polling rate responds a tiny bit better paired w my 1450 dpi.

Hey what mouse pad is that? Thanks

I see you have the gardener's tan at the wrist. xD I have the same thing, hehe.

On the Logitech you don’t have to press it down you can side click it. Never used the razer so idk if that would work on that too

What crazy timing I just order the GPRO X today, after using the viper mini for 1 year now, only mouse I’ve ever used, I woulda bought the new viper but I wanna try new shapes and sizes instead of using the same shape pretty much

It's personal preference what is great is that we got something to choose from

Viper V2 Pro is so damn good, my go to mouse now.

I haved issues with my g pro x superlight, 2 times in 11 months middle click die. I will see a test who speak about "tact Switch" can be cheap, yes it is...

Well you can compare the pricing to other mice. Then decide if its expensive for what you get. Like if you get most of it with another mouse for half the price then its probably an expensive mouse and not worth it for a majority. The people who can really make use of that extra bit they get probably know and are willing to pay.

Even though I still really like the Superlight, the V2 Pro is really the perfect mouse for my style of play. The Superlight's hump was slightly too high for me as a really relaxed palm gripper, and the Viper shape is just perfect. The Superlight's side buttons were also always too mushy for me, not tactile and responsive enough, and I never liked that gap between the two buttons cause the mushiness mixed with that gap made it feel even more finicky to go back and fourth between the two buttons when rapid firing them. The side buttons on the V2 Pro are not only more tactile but more pronounced and nicer to press in general. And then other smaller things like the paint they use on the V2 Pro having a slight rough texture as opposed to the Superlight's super smooth texture made it much nicer to hold, the scroll wheel being slightly lower makes it easier to press it in without fumbling during the heat of the moment, and the mouse using Optical switches so it has even lower latency than the Superlight, all while being 1 gram lighter like damn how did they do it. Like it really is the perfect mouse for me, even though still really like the Superlight, it's just gonna be hard to go back to it after finding what feels like my Endgame mouse period

Is the Razer Viper V2 Pro good for Xbox series X? 🙏🏽🌞

The razer viper scroll wheel is my biggest complaint. I've had 3 vipers and they have extremely flimsy plastic mechanisms to reduce weight every one i have owned the scroll wheel mechanism wears out making it not work and when it goes out the clicks don't work as well either. Each one i have owned has gone out in about a year and a half. Extremely disappointed to see that the v2 did not upgrade this as when i received mine the slightest pressure when scrolling there's a lot a creaking showing they did not upgrade the mechanism even with the premium price for the new model. This mouse is great for gaming for about a year or so if the lifespan is a issue for you go with the logitech superlight.

I love both but i prefer g pro x superlight for price (85$ in my country)

It would be amazing if there was a mouse shaped as the gpx same scroll wheel as the gpx and side buttons as the viperv2 😫

6:26 a higher scroll wheel actually perform better because you don't wanna press the middle mouse, it gonna hurt as fck for the long run (especially 3D designer), you want it to be like stop block so you can tilt it from the side

Which one feels smaller on hands?

Got the gpx for 1 month it's good still have to get used to it

Viper pro v1has been the best mouse I've ever used. I hate plugging it in to charge so the dock it has is a game changer.

what mouse grips on the superlight?

i use the superlight and dont plan on switching anytime soon.

i have both and the the x and original viper and I stick to my original viper ultimate the super light feels to cheap for me and the v2 just took to much away for me to main it daily. but great video I loved the way you talk about gaming with them

bought the g prox last month coming from vpu didnt like the shape and bought v2pro

And the XM2w?

I think if you're on a budget get a razer viper mini. Its dirt cheap and youre literally paying all the extra for the wireless. Its honestly as good and i won both

Viper 2 hands down. I tried logitech its too small for my hand. Also logitech switch is kinda crap from my experience.

DON'T DO THAT TECHNE! The noise is the battery GLUED to the top of your palm on the Superlight. It's partially loose. The heat of your hand loosens it over time, and your battery will just fumble around inside until you take it apart, fix it, and add new pads.

Hi Techne! I wonder how many months do you replace your mouse grip tapes? Coz mine started to lose its glue(6months). but its hotline games griptapes the cheap one.

thats corepad grips?

The Logitech price tag is actually miserable, with the most cheap Omron switches start failing after a couple of months.

I ordered the razer seen lot of bad review on Logitech side...😊

review of the xm2w ?

it's simple if you're a finger tip go for v2 pro viper but if you're a palm or claw you can go for logitech gpro i have v2 pro and a finger tip player and happy with it but even if anyone is confused go check your favourite player you look up to and copy him and look at his grip and mouse you will get your answer instantly don't put much thought on it Because of course you guys are smart enough to follow the guys who have similar hands like yours and similar gamestyle so you have your answer there don't make it complex for yourself guys.

Waiting for the G Pro X Superlight 2023.

GPX feels so much more stable to me so I had to to return the viper v2

I just bought G Pro X superlight 1.5 month ago :)

I'll settle this here right now. If you don't already own a Superlight and want that Razer sensor or optical switches but aren't afraid to pay a bit more, buy the V2 Pro. But if you already own a Superlight, stick to it because it's still the best wireless mouse out in the market.

Quality-wise, it's the Viper by waaay more than most are willing to admit. Shape is subjective, but damn, I returned 3 gpx's that had excessive button wobble, uneven shell seams, and cheap side clicks. My Viper Ultimate and V2 Pro were both perfect on the first try. Not even close.

This video has amazing timing because I was wondering should I get the superlight or the viper v2

With Logitech you don't have to use the worst SW for any peripheral ever - I'm looking at you Razer, how did you manage to make something that needs an account and spams you with installation every time I plug in the dongle?

I am sorry. "Logitech = Double Click" I had the same problem with 3 Logitech mice before. I will never buy a Logitech mouse from now on. Ergonomically, I think GPX is better, but because of the optical switches, I would prefer the Razer Viper V2 Pro. I am currently a Viper Ultimate user and I am very satisfied. I'm following from Turkey, greetings 🙂

Just ordered the razer, and the only reason was because I use a fingertip grip

Just sold my g pro superlight, I'm not an esports player, I don't play FPS gamesoften. These "esport" mice are like racing seats, makes me uncomfortable, not suitable for daily use

Zowie ec2B vs ec2C please

G pro superlight vs deathader v3 pro ?

I love my Razer Viper Ult. I’ll wait for a sale for the v2, I’ll also be sad to part with my dock. Looks nice on the desk lol.

As a wise man once said - shape is king!