In case it wasn’t clear from the audio, I filmed this video while battling strep throat, a fever, and a common cold 😅 hope it wasn’t too bad lol

To be honest, I absolutely love my Trashcan. I called him Henry, after the vacuum cleaner (specifically, Henry the Third after the first two being Mac minis). I know it's not really a rational choice, but I like my computers to have personality. Henry absolutely does.

Not gonna lie, I would LOVE to see the trash can re-released with an M1 Max. All those pesky thermal issues disappear with Apple Silicon. And I still love the way it looks!

I'm still going to buy one, when they sell for about $200. I just want it on my shelf. It's pretty.

Fun Fact: The Tin Can Mac Pro is the only mac that only made in USA

Film industry editors work almost exclusively on these trash cans in the post houses in London. They work pretty flawlessly when you're using Avid systems.

I think the really interesting part is how competitive my M1 Mac mini is to this …considering I paid $599 for it 😳😳

Alternate title: The most expensive trash can money can buy.

I sold mine last week and i was surprised how much attention it got. It is still a nifty piece of engineering.

Still the best looking Mac ever… if anything given their new SoC approach to ultra efficient hardware the Trashcan design would work great today…. A dual M1 Max SoC with 20 cpu cores, 64 gpu cores and 128gb ram and 4TB ssd….in a trash can …would be my fantasy

I recently bought a used “trashcan” for US$650. It was sold to me as base model, but it had the dual three gigabyte graphics cards (D500), a 1 terabyte SSD, 8 gigs of 1333 DDR3 ECC DRAM, AND THE 4-core Xeon processor. I installed 64 Gigs of 1600 DRAM, and upgraded the processor (myself) to the faster of the 2 available 12-core Xeons. My total cash outlay was just a hair over US$900. Now, I vacillated between buying a 2013 Mac Pro and the new M1 Mac Mini. What made up my mind for me was that a new Mini, for pretty much that same price would have come with only 16 gigs of RAM, and only 512 gigs of SSD storage. But more importantly than that, the M1Mini is totally NON UPGRADABLE! If I had bought one with a 1TB drive, it would have upped the price to just about $1100! A 2TB drive would have added US$600 (which is ridiculously outrageous). But however I would have configured the Mini, whatever I would have bought, I would have been stuck with. That made the decision for me. Adding another 8 gigs of RAM adds US$200 to the Mini’s base price, but I was able to replace the 8 gigs of 1333 DRAM that came with my Pro with 64gig of brand new Samsung DDR 1600 ECC RAM for US$65! If I want to, I can add up to 4 gigs of SSD, to the pro, and go all the way to 128 Gigs of RAM (and do the latter for less than Apple wants to increase the Mini’s RAM from 8 to 16 gig). Non-upgradability is a cynical ploy by Apple to make one buy new hardware when one needs more RAM or a bigger internal SSD. Mr. Miani, you need to understand that people have different needs, and although to you the 2013 Pro might be useless, speed and benchmark performance do not tell the whole story here. I love mine, it’s perfect for my needs. I’m a writer. My work consists of word processing, image manipulation, and occasional graphics, CAD and schematic capture. For these tasks the Trashcan is perfect and it will likely serve me for a lot of years.

5yrs from now everyone will say how great the design was like the G4 Cube

Luke, thank you so much for making this video! I recently looked up various tests of yours trying to compare. At work I’m currently running a 2013 Mac Pro with a (self upgraded) 1tb ssd and 64gb ram. It’s a 6 core Xeon + D500. I have wanted to upgrade for a while now, and I just ordered the 16” pro max (fully maxed except for the SSD) and after watching this I’m expecting it to do backflips, lol. Thanks for all the content, you and Max Yuryev have been indispensable. God bless you.

It still trades in for about 1k at the Apple Store

The thumbnail is perfection

Thank you for devaluing them so I can buy one for a not absurd price

Still rocking the dual processor 16 core 5,1 here. I like having several internal drives including NVME. I hope the next Mac Pro is a bit more affordable than the latest version.

I have the same trashcan. It's fairly close to maxed out with 64GB RAM and 2TB, 12 core etc. I bought it new and it was a lot of money. When it was new it was pretty decent and ran my music studio with Logic Pro quite well, and TBH it still runs it reasonably well. I waited for an age for a new Mac Pro but when they arrived they were a huge amount of money and there were instantly rumours that Apple were switching to Arm so I didn't want to spend another £10k on a machine if I wasn't going to get the mileage. When the M1 appeared it was amazing, the Mini was killer, however it was a bit limited as my studio has 3 screens on and 30TB of attached storage, I couldn't do that with a Mini. I could buy a new MBP and just use it as a desktop but it seems a bit sub optimal. As soon as there's an M1 Max Mini available then I'll flip the trashcan in a blink. So stop talking their value down for a moment :)

I know it’s been a long time but I really have to applaud you for being able to film this sick, even with your voice sounding like hell, the video was great as always. And nobody’s gonna blame you for the voice if they know you’re sick. Also I must add, lookin’ sharp as always 😁

In the trash can Mac Pro’s defense, it has USB ports. That’s so valuable nowadays, I still have yet to own or find someone else who owns a USB-C accessory.

I'm about to make the move to Apple Silicon. I'm holding out for the Mini for sure. For now my trusty 5,1 maxed out and my 2012 15" MBP maxed out are holding up quite well for audio production. This reminds me of the PPC to Intel transition. I still have and use a G5 Dual 2.5GHz, 8GB of ram with Logic 9 on it at our practice spot. It's still up to the task even 16 years later. Luckily I only do audio. lol

Mac Pro gets completely destroyed at 6:00 because MacOS does not support Crossfire, so for those "gaming" benchmarks, it's a single d700 vs the other single GPUs.

That Mac Pro, looks really sus in the intro 🤣

I have to say, mine remains very useful (and pleasant) for heavy office tasks. It handles multiple retina 4K very nicely, and I recently added a third HDMI display. I’ve got a 16 TB storage array on Thunderbolt, and for these kind of “digital hub” jobs it continues to outperform every Intel CPU laptop and Mac Mini. All those cores make it very smooth, so it’s got a fine luxury feeling when you keep it off the racetrack. You just need to stop giving it large 4K encode jobs and H265 compression tasks.

This form factor was ahead of it's time . It should have been used with the M1 series chip . Imagine the Mac studio in this chassis with an anodized black finish , instead of that glossy black. It would have stayed nice and cool since it only has one chip to cool with that massive heatsink. This chassis would have made sense now .

Makes a great doorstop. Thing is I would like to see "Trash Can", or "Cube" version of the ARM M series processor for the desktop with tons of ports. Pundits are always talking about GQ looks. The MacMini is nice however I would have to add a dock for all of the devices that I attach to my current iMac.

Sounds good. Get well!

I love the startup sound covering the expletive!!

you say that, but considering how many trashcan videos you've made i'd say it's priceless! how much has it earned you by now! that said for all the flack luke talks, all im seeing is a computer that held its value for nearly a decade and has to be compared to the latest and greatest, and that final cut is still king.

I really liked the design. Would be a great fit for the new M chips.

I have a 2013 Mac Pro and love it!! Mine has 10 cores, 64 GB RAM, dual D500 video, 1 TB storage…does everything I need, is whisper quiet and looks really cool sitting on my desk!!

It is strictly a collector's item now, like the G4 Lamp and the Cube.

I really like the design and the way the cooling was done. I wish the case could be used for other machines. And I wish they made a transparent cylinder/cover :-)

They should have made them with a transparent cover. The inside look is awesome.

That little b roll bit at the introduction, with the xray of the Mac, was so lit. Very well done 🗿

Very interesting video! Thanks. And GET WELL SOON

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Well… I got mine in early 2014 yeah not this beast you have but the 5k option back then plus later added 32Gb of RAM and a 1T SSD, it is however still going like new, fully supported and thats a lot to say for a 7yr machine. I agree the new machines are a new world but as you clearly point out, the new ones are monsters even compared to newish super expensive window pcs as well!

Hilarious but informative presentation, loved it, cold or no cold Luke you are a star.

Feel better soon, Luke!

I love MacPro 2013 so much, a future reissue with M1 Max will be a dream. I’m still waiting for the new MacMini, I’m very curious about it!

I agree they are overpriced for the performance the offer. But … most people just don't need the M1 like performance. And looking at those charts, I was actually surprised this thing was keeping up with the Mac Mini M1 in most cases.

The company I work for bought base model trashcan pros a few months before the new mac pro launched for our graphics team

Don't feel too bad. In 1992, Cray sold the million-dollar super-computer that he was building, because desk-top computers were catching up.

My university uses these things like crazy. I wish i could take em 😭

I think for music production though, this is why it still sells…IMO. That’s what I use my Mac Pro for, not for gaming or anything like that. I’m still rocking a 2010 Mac Pro…thanks to you bro! But for real, I think music producers buy it primarily for that reason; plus it looks dope!! LOL

Virtualization is one use case where the old Intel Mac Pro still offers a unique advantage over other desktop Macs. x86 CPU emulation isn't here yet for M1. For a home lab scenario, the compute to size offered by the trashcan combined with the quiet fans is excellent when you compare against similar rack-mount options.

Just a few short months ago Luke made a video talking about how amazing the trashcan Mac still is and isn't at all overpriced (it only became overpriced after he modded it). Funny how that works.

I use a trashcan for my main work computer for 3D modelling and rendering. It was cheap and works great. My backup is a maxed out 2008 Mac Pro that honestly still feels fast today.

You sound unwell, Luke. Take care of yourself!

Just bought my trash can a few weeks ago to run Logic X on Mojave (for 32 bit plugins). 6 core, 32GB RAM, D500’s, 512GB SSD for $400. The only two “issues” with it are the power cable being a cheap 3rd party one and the couple of minor scrapes on the case (but they’re on the back so I can’t see them anyway)

Always great content, but that “scare” from the old Mac Pro really made me chuckle. Thank you 🤣

*Condolence to the people who bought that garbage*

to be fair, Intel didn't exactly improve in processor speed at the time. But indeed, classic apple, focus (to much) on form, design

I have always loved the form factor of this machine. It would be cool if they brought it back with Apple silicone. Maybe half as tall, if you don’t need expansion slots, IMO it would be very cool

This made me so happy with my M1 Mac Mini too considering it was hand in hand tied with the Mac Pro on several tests.

I’m betting that Luke could make all his videos on the $10k trashcan and it would work super easy, barely an inconvenience.

I am sorry that you tried to use your machine for the wrong purposes, but for those of us who knew what we were doing, it was, and still is, a great machine.

I loved that you sensored yourself with the mac boot sound lol.

we have 35 of them in our office. I Cannot wait until the m1max mac-mini is available we just got 4 of the MBP- max machines and we will be buying the minis on day one !!!

I would definitely love an M1 Max based Mac desktop with this premium trashcan design.

I bought Mac Pro 2013 recently, cost me about 1600 dollars for the top spec. I knew it wasn’t going to to be the best performing machine seeing as it’s old but I always loved the way it looked on the desk and it was the top spec, so I’m happy with my purchase. I think you’re wrong to call it worthless, it serves the purpose I need for a computer and it looks pretty cool while doing it.

I'm so glad that I bought the base model 14" MacBook Pro. Up here in Canada it sells for $2499 and I got it for $2199 brand new during Black Friday.

I have 2 and they are great for what I do. I am able to run multiple Linux a windows VM as well as the VMware running Oracle 19c. With very little performance degradation.

except geekbench and cinescore and all of those have been bias for years to processor manufactures and geekbench makes its money from supporting intel processors

It is very very pretty, and there is much satisfaction from taking the aluminum cylinder off and then putting it back on again… 🙃

Goddamn that translucency at 0:49 is sick! Well done Sir!

Everyone is ill... It's bloody horrible! Get better soon Luke!

I still love the look of those things and hope to find a cheap one as an heirloom

his voice is different now.. miss his old voice :(

Great video! Your voice from the strep throat made me sniffle just listening to you! XD

Oh man you sound so sick! Get well soon buddy

Hey Luke if it’s worthless to you buddy I could really make use of it in my studio as I don’t have loads of money but that machine could do so much for me. Not as useless as you may think, all depends on your specific application requirements. I think you summed it up perfectly with the slim desktop offerings from Apple at the moment. 😊 If an M1 pro or max Mac mini was available, well Jesus I would wee a little I think 😂

"can't innovate anymore my ass" Phill was not wrong this Mac Pro continues to innovate in the uselessnes/dollar metric even after 8 years. Come back in another 8 years it'll be even more useless for every dollar paid 😂

Thanks for talking me out of one. I really like the design, it's a crying shame it can't be brought up to to today's specs.

6:48 "..it..it's just...ooold... and baaad!" 😂

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Hope you get better soon bro! My SO gets strep throat every year and it is not fun. I have no idea how you are filming.

I use a Trashcan Mac Pro everyday for web development and honestly it still holds up pretty well. That said though I can't wait for an M1 Pro/Max Mac mini, that would be fantastic

“No buddy. You’re not even close”. - Luke Miami 😂

"It's just old. And bad."🤣 The hilarious thing about the trashcan Mac Pro is that it was billed as being 'innovative' at all. This very same concept for the 'future' of the professional desktop computer, was already done in the form of the G4 Cube - a machine that, thanks to its fancy resin enclosure and proprietary ADC monitor connection - remains the embodiment of failure. That is, until the TrashCan Pro took the throne of useless. Great video. Sorry you're sick. Fortunately, iFixit has a conversion kit available to turn your 2013 Mac Pro into a Neti Pot.

You are an iron man. I could NOT have done this video battling all that sickness. But you pulled it off and did great! I am a little disheartened that the "trash can" Mac Pros underperform for all the money you can sink into them. But on the bright side we do have a novel machine that we can play with.

I'm still using a trash can for my main home computer. Drives my Dell 5k display beautifully. Works great for my needs. I would love an M1 Max refresh in the trash can form factor. A Mac Mini pro, something between the Mac Mini and a Mac Pro. Shrink the Mac Mini to the Apple TV form factor.

0:53 that was a clever little transition Luke

I bought one last April, maxed out $1200 used on eBay. I like using it over my 2018 mbp because it doesn’t sound like a jet taking off while using it (I mix audio)

Purchased a 2018 made in Texas 12 core d500 trash can for $350 with a defective gpu. Fixed it for $150 and can finally run Mojave again with all my audio plugins on 4 monitors without a glitch. Beautiful music production machine

Waiting to see what the new external display looks like before buying a new Mac mini or iMac. The size of the screen will tell me what to buy.

still remember the old iMac video that scared Luke hahaha

In real word application, editing 4k rendering is 3-5 minutes more on the trash can. I can live with that. Plus having LightRoom, photoshop for free (cs6) it’s worth the price.

1:14 I mean you could take the board(s) out of the M1 Mac Mini and put them into a trashcan Mac.....

This was like when the dual core G5 power mac came out and then the mac mini with intel came out not too long later and it preformed pretty well and made the power mac G5 just look like a space heater.

I may always stay a windows guy myself but it would be nice to have one around, mostly as backup storage, full of stickers and whatnot

yeah, I do have 16 maxed out MAX now, but I will buy Mini next year and at the end of Mac Pro. AS is getting insanely good

The Max Mini is exactly the machine i'm waiting for.. I hope you are feeling better by now Luke 👍🏽

Oh poor Luke! Get well soon :)

i’m still using my trashcan Mac Pro editing video 4K content still loving it

I have a M1 Mac mini that Im really happy with. Im even happier after seeing how well it holds up against that expensive Mac Pro

With the new M1 series of chips, the trashcan form factor of the older Mac Pro would be a good chassis to gut and refit these into. Kind of like shoehorning them into the old G4 cube

I got rid of my trashcan for a near-maxed out M1 mini and it was a break-even trade. But I like the look of it so much I ended up buying a full shell & base of that off eBay and use it as decor on shelf, sitting beside the empty G4 cube.

Get well soon Luke ! Your videos are our morning coffee. M1 max Mac mini ! Looking forward to buy one . Keep your “excelente trabajo “ my good friend !