Sure, apart from the bezels, the touch bar, the butterfly keyboard, the awful thermals, not to mention the performance gap, and the price, it was a great laptop!

Would you buy a 15 inch MacBook Air? I think some people are missing the point of the video, which is that the *form factor* of the old 15" has a lot of potential as a new category for an ultralight MacBook Air that can now match (and exceed) this level of performance. I'm not saying Intel is better, this particular design is better, or that I would replace the new thicker design

Apple : Let make our laptops thin Tech KZfaqrs : We wouldn't mind thicker laptops for a better thermal and keyboard Apple : Ok we listened and here is the M1 Pro/Max laptops. Tech KZfaqrs : We wouldn't mind the previous thin design! WTF? 😂😂😂

I switched from my old 2018 15” MBP to the new 16” M1 Max. I’m been trying to sell the old one and nobody wants it. Already down to $970 for it. No interest at all. That laptop was noisy, slow, buggy, meh.. the M1 MacBook Air destroys it in basically every way.

I have a 2019 15” for work and would never go back. The heat, noise, lack of battery life (which I’ve also had to replace twice due to bulging battery cells) and less color accurate, smaller screen (plus the nasty keyboard) are leagues different than the new pros. If you travel professionally than sure, maybe that extra half pound and an inch would kill ya but for most desk-focused people those size differences have no practical usability effect. The changes Apple made on the new Pros are focused in the right places, even if it resulted in a bit more size.

For me as an Software engineer in Spain, and also as a owner of the 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro and 16 inch m1 pro MacBook. I have to say it. Battery life is a game changer. I still use both of them because windows in my old 16 inch and I can feel the difference between them. Secondly, once you tried 120 hertz there is no come back to 60 hz. For me it is impossible. I like more the new keyboard. In my opinion, the new ones feels better. I like them more. With the black background it is nicer and easier to type. Also it doesn't get as hot as the old one. The only thing I really miss is the touchbar. I am Touch Bar guy, sorry. About the size, for my usage it is not very noticeable. My bag is big enough to carry both of them and also my iPad Pro. But I have to agree with you, the new ones feels more chunky and bigger than the old ones. Every time I use the intel MacBook I see it more futuristic than the new one, which it feels something more classic and older, like it was from an earlier generation. I will buy if Apple releases it, the new 15 inch MacBook Air, with that kind of design you are saying, I am a screen real state fan as well!! By the way, I was waiting for someone from the KZfaq community to share a video like you did to share my opinion and see what did they think about the new design. Now I don't feel lonely in this side. Love your content Luke. I learnt most of my English by watching your videos!!

I upgraded from the 2015 15" MBP to the 2021 16" MBP and there's basically no difference at all in size. I guess that's the good part of having missed out on the entire butterfly keyboard generation of MBPs. 😆

As a web dev, video editor and "photographer", M1 Pro 14" FTW! Love the content Luke.

I use a 16” from 2019, and my plan is to switch to a strong Apple silicon iMac, while having a light laptop on the side for travel and stuff. A 15” Air would be a dream come true for me as well

I really like the size of my 13” M1 MBP and it has all the performance I need… If the screen were a little larger I wouldn’t be mad about it, so I think a lot of people would go for a 15” MacBook Air, if the price was right. The battery life would probably be off the hook too.

My 2017 15 inch MacBook pro feels really good to date. And for my web development workloads, it just runs perfectly. No crazy fan noise. No crazy heat issues. It still looks stellar and I am indifferent about the touch bar.

My personal view is that the 13" MBP is the perfect size. When I'm at home I'll connect it to my large monitor and when I'm away from home I don't usually spend hours on my laptop so the smaller 13" screen is just perfect. But then I haven't had my hands on one of the 14" models yet! I had a 15" model when I was at uni and it just didn't work for me from a portability perspective!

That’s a tight rope you’re walking, bemoaning MacBooks for sacrificing thermals and performance, and then turning around and bemoaning MacBooks for being too chunky- and sacrificing thinness for performance.

this is the most contradictory video ive ever seen lol. I remember when every one and you too probably were hating on the 15inch mbp because its too thin and not properly cooled and the display could be edge to edge like other laptops had it and now the same one that was so hated is the better one?

I travel business and first and the 16 inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro fits perfectly. Also as a video editor the monitor is top for editing HDR content. Cant go back to any other Mac.

A 15" air M1/2 would be perfect for me too. I have the 15" 2018 MBP.

The new 16’ MacBook only weighs about 6 pounds… it’s still very easy to slip into a bag and actually feels solid this time around. Add the beast like performance and an upgrade in every other category and you have a computer that isn’t made for a tray table, because a 15 inch never was. (The air or iPad is better suited. ) Plus you don’t need dongles! For 7 years Apple sacrificed inputs for form-factor and now that they finally listened and made this thing all powerful, you revert to intel based on form factor?

I feel that the 2019 macbook pro is the best keyboard apple has ever made on a laptop. It feels tactile enough and has enough travel for it to feel nice and pleasant to type on. I did try the new M1 Max macbook pro keyboard, though it feels nice, i do not like it as much as the 2019 keyboard. I hate the touch-bar though. I was a interesting concept but not implemented properly.

I love the 15” MacBook Air talk. I would love to see/have that product.

So I just got the 2017 macbook pro 15inch speced out almost and tbh I love it. The dedicated graphics are good for gaming, video production, and overall handles what I need. I had the 12inch macbook and never had issues with the butterfly keyboards and kinda liked it.

I used my old 17" mbp on planes all the time... This 16" feels small and light after carrying that around for 10yrs.

I love the content but this I can’t agree with. I was just on two 3 hour flights with my 16 inch M1 Pro and had absolutely zero issues. It fit on my tray, I was able to do some work and get through a whole movie. Was it a little tight? Sure. Was I able to use an external mouse? No. But it was completely and totally fine and fit without a problem. I just don’t really understand when content creators make the 16 inch to be some sort of cinderblock. Yes it is slightly heavier but no, it will not completely change how it feels in your bag. It still ultimately feels like you have a laptop in your bag.

Are you getting the memory leaks on your M1 pro Macs ? I don’t like my 16 inch M1 having quite a few problems sometimes it won’t shut down properly and the inbuilt dictation doesn’t work at all Wish I hadn’t sold my 2015 Mac now yes it was getting a bit slow but it was more useable Not sure if I will buy another Mac with apple silicon

Luke, I am curious to know if you also experience slower SSD speeds (Samsung T5, according to the system information: up to 5 Gbits/s) on the new MacBook Pro 2021 compared to the Intel version (up to 10 Gbits/s).

the time it took that 15" to wake up at 01:08 demonstrates one of the many things wrong with the Intel. I do prefer the form factor of the 15" or 16" Intel MBP but damn I don't miss the incredibly poor battery life, the constant feeling of being hot hot hot on your lap, or when you plug in an external monitor and the 5300M & 5500M models start getting hot and spinning up the fans while sitting there idling.

It is totally fine to keep using and loving the 2019 MacBook Pro, just like keep driving the car you bought 20 years ago. It just makes no sense to choose the 2019 MBP if it is at the same price with the M1 Pro MBP. Also, it is far too silly to call the 15” design as a MacBook “Air”.

Hey Luke! I just got my MacBook Pro 2017 today (full spec) and I ask where you get your wallpaper from on your MBP. I love it. Just as much as I love *ALL* your videos!! Thanks xx

Hi Luke, I have a macbook pro 16 inch intel core i9 with 64 Gb RAM. At the moment I have it with mac OS Catalina, but I am having a lot of problems with adobe premiere, do you know which of the new operating systems works well with intel processor? There is a lot of misinformation out there, so I am hesitating to upgrade.

I prefer the butterfly keyboard. I loved the tactile feel and the rigid confident click no matter where you touched the keys. I do understand that I am in the rare in camp in that I didn’t have issues with mine but I still wished they fixed the issues rather than move back.

Pro of Butterfly keyboard after comparing with 2012 macbook pro: My fingers dont get stuck with the keys when fast typing

I have been looking to replace my old 13 in MacBook Pro from 2011 and wanted a larger screen. I only use it for light computing, web browsing and streaming so I do not need a powerful M1 Pro or Max. I would buy the new M1 MacBook Air if it had a bigger screen. 15 in would be perfect. I am not too bothered about the mini led display if that helps keep the cost down. Please do it Apple!!

The new 14 and 16 inch mbp’s are where I started with apple laptops. I’m curious, when older models debuted was there the same amount of hype and build up for them as with the new ones? Or was buzz just meh?

.... yeah this is click bait... yet here I am in the comments giving you engagement... shame on me.

I bought a fully loaded 27" i9 iMac at the end of last year. I'm positive the M1s will be better, but I need the compatibility for the moment and the horsepower is more than sufficient.

Yes Luke agree with you! I’m extremely interested to see a 15 inch M2 MacBook Air with Mini LED pro display 👌🏼

Luke, I will admit that I thought this video was about getting some views only. After watching it I am glad I saw it. Some valid points have been made. Good work today sir.

I did prefer the Butterfly keyboard in terms of feel. It was sort-of clicky, it was very low travel, and I don't know why, but I thought it felt REALLY good. But the reliability was definitely a deal-breaker.The new Magic Keyboard is definitely a good compromise between the feel of the Butterfly boards and the reliability of a normal switch.

Very interesting video, Luke! As for my thoughts: Speaking only of the form factor, and not the tech specs, I prefer the look of the 2019 version - and the M1 MacBook Air/Pro - over the new, "retro" look. I actually don't understand the apparent fascination with going retro, and I especially HATE the retro look of the new M1 iMacs...they look cheap and toy-like, IMHO, and I would never buy such a cheap-looking desktop to replace my 27" 5K iMac designed by Jony Ive. I was considering getting a MacBook Air when the new, M2 version comes out, but if it looks anything like the renders I've seen - carrying on the retro look - I'll either not get one, or get the M1 version before they're sold out.

Where can I get the wallpaper from the 16" M1 Max shown at the beginning of the video? Can't seem to find it on my Monterey installation.

Luke Miani how do you feel about the Intel i9 Macbook Pro 16''' 32 GB DDR 4 laptop?

I owned 2 butterfly keyboard MacBook (not Air, not Pro) ultralights and had zero keyboard issues over 5 years. Obviously the design has problems, but I kept my laptops clean and I learned to properly TOUCH type (high school typing class) so I never hammered on it like I observe millennials doing.

Old slim design with the power of new M1 max. .. Holy shit. That was my first though just after I saw the new macbooks with M1 pro and max processors..

How small are your seats in aeroplanes in america? Even in the cheapest flight on qantas in australia you can definitely fit the 16inch on the tray

I switched from a 13 inch Touch Bar MBP, and the new 16 inch form factor is AMAZING I love looking at the screen and the entire build is so so much better

this is becoming too much like painfully honest techs channel... i love the new macbook, i hate the new macbook, i went back to the old mac, i went back to the m1, i hate all macs, i decided to go back to the m1 max... just hear me out 💩

My friend loves the butterfly keyboard… he is no longer my friend after he told me that

I’ve used the both the butterfly versions of 13 and 15 inch Touch Bar laptops, as well as the magic keyboard 13 and 16 inch Touch Bar laptops, not the new 14 and 16 inch pros though. The benefits of the butterfly laptops were that they were thinner, resulting in less sharp edge on the wrist. I noticed the sharp edges more on the magic keyboard models. The other benefits are less light bleed (nice at night), also full size left and right buttons (I would prefer full size up and down keys as well even if the down key extends below the rest of the Keyboard). For typing a lot all day though I prefer the magic keys, and I roll up a shirt to rest my wrists on and avoid the sharp edges. Optimal would be a tapered design with the magic keys. I like the Touch Bar for app shortcuts and customizable.

It was fun to watch this video AFTER the 15" macbook air came out. Luke had this idea in mind for a very long time!

A 15 Inch MacBook Air would be the ideal laptop for me. I was considering getting the 16 Inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro purely because of the screen size. I don't care much for the performance of the M1 Pro and Max, M1 level performance is good enough for my needs. Let's see where Spring/Fall this year takes us, I can afford to wait another year or two.

A thin and light and more affordable M1 16” would be an instant purchase for me

This is the video I’ve been wanting to watch for a while 🎉

Hey, just a suggestion, but I read in an article it's possible to run Windows x86 apps on Windows for ARM inside of parallels on the M1 Macs. Is this something you would be willing to test?

I can see Apple creating a new middle ground with a Macbook line of 13" and 15" using black bezels and being between the air and pro.

The old design is amazing. Perhaps Apple Silicon would work fine in that smaller form factor with less ventilation issues, but I’m guessing Apple didn’t want to risk more thermal problems & starting with an all-new generation was a good idea.

how do you manage your files between all these different computers you keep swapping between? icloud? something else?

Y’all said you wanted a chunky laptop and when y’all got one you complain, there is no end

To me the design on the 2016-2020 macbook pro looks more luxurious than it is now even though the new gen is quite great 👍

After replacing my 2019 intel 16 inch MacBook Pro, which I kept to the side, I returned my 16 inch M1 Pro MacBook. I returned it since, as a university student, I found I didn't have much use for it and didn't use it any differently than the Intel version. To put it another way, I returned it since I wasn’t using it to its full potential.

Is am searching for an Intel too but for music I need speedy & lot’s of me memory & big SSD drive which you recommend as Model ?

Does anyone know where can I get an internal SSD to be able to become compatible to upgrade to macos Monterrey. I have a 2015 MacBook pro and I wanted to upgrade to Macos Monterrey in the middle of summer. I tried upgrading to Monterrey, I got an error saying that "A required firmware update cannot be installed" Compatible internal storage is required in order to update"

15" MBP ain't that much smaller than 16" MBP, and it doesn't even fit in airplane tray tables well. So that intro doesn't make much sense. If they made a 15" MacBook Air that's close to the size of something like the XPS 15 9500, that'd be great.

I'm done with super thin laptops. I'd rather have slightly thicker laptop like the M1 pro/max MBP with superior thermals.

My first MacBook was an M1 MacBook Pro 13 inch. Love the magic keyboard but when I checked out an older one just for fun at Best Buy, it had a butterfly keyboard, and I loved the stability. I also love the touch bar. I'm quite rare.

Thanks for the video Luke.. I currently do have the 2020 13 Inch MacBook Pro. I honestly like the old design of MacBook Pro which is why I'm keeping this laptop for sometime. Looking at the newer MacBook Pro's; I'm not really digging the new bulk look what's so ever. I wish and hope apple brings back the previous designs because it's very compact and like you said; it's easy to slip into your laptop bag or backpack.. This gave me some insight. Thanks again Luke. 💯 -Wendell

I think the new Blender 3.1 alpha has big performance improvements on M1.

Finally someone recognise this problem :) For me the new 16" its just feel huge compared the old 15".. As a webdeveloper I dont need a M1 Pro, or Max, I dont care how fast it exports video, but I need the screen size fo coding! simply a M1 would be enough but with a big screen, but in smaller body, which I can easyl carry around wherever I want to work.. if apple would create 15" air, that would be instant get for me..

Honestly, the few times I've used a butterfly keyboard MacBook, I've liked it a lot. It may have been that most of those times were when I was trying out MacBook Pros at Best Buy a few years ago, back when they were elusive and out of my price-range. I also tend to prefer low-profile keys with not a lot of travel, but still with a good amount of tactile feedback (kind of an outcast in that regard, I know). I get that the sheer unreliability of the boards is more than enough to be permanently frustrated with the design, but in terms of pure feel, I definitely wouldn't mind using one as a daily driver.

Unfortunately, after using my macbook pro 13 inch base model from 2019 for two years and one month the screen has a black line on it for a couple of months, the keyboard is not as clicky as it was new and i have a stuck key... Thank god i bought one more year of warranty. It didn’t aged like i thought. But never crashed on me and always done the work its supossed to do.

Wow to keep making content with no new products = this videio😂 next weeks video will be “ Why I’m back to the m1 macs”

The Butterfly keyboard is better for me when I have to type the long essay as the key travel is very short so I don’t feel as fatigued as the new keyboard. I have never encountered the stuck or double key at all in one and a half year (Bought it second hand and the kb was replaced to the one with silicone protection layer). Also I noticed less backlight leaks on the gap between the chassis and the keys. However, it just the keyboard that I liked on my old 2017 13” w/o touchbar. My new m1 pro 14” is far superior in every way

Hi Luke can you redo the benchmark on the i9 MBP while running OS Catalina because some have said that after that OS i9 MBP was slowed down

I have a 2015 15” retina. I need a new laptop for a new job. Should I go intel or should I get m1? I am afraid to lose boot camp. I am still on Catalina on my 2015. Any advice y’all?

I miss the touchbar!! It had that kinda special and premium feel to it and was dynamic and convenient to use. I also liked the butterfly quite a bit. It felt quicker to me but it depends on what you‘re used to.

Tbh, I actually like the butterfly keyboard when it works. It sounds nice, I can easily slide by fingers from key to key, and I really like the slim key travel when pressed. I just really hate how a good amount of my keys either double tap or simply don’t register when tapped. It’s a pain for typing papers or programming. I wish Apple would have been able to truly fix it before dumping it.

What are the actual screen sizes of the 14 inch vs the 15 inch? I remember the 14 inch to be 14.x something

May I ask what wallpaper that is, it looks very good on that display.

So essentially "Apart from practically everything about it it's a great laptop"? It's a pity we can't see the dislike counter any more.

I hope Apple keeps the Air series as the (relatively) low-cost entry laptop, with the M1 processor, and 13" and 15" options, and saves the Pro/Max/M2 silicon for the more expensive MB Pro line. I think they could make more money by gradually dropping the price, than they could by adding unnecessary performance to a machine that's already way over the top for entry-level users. The market for $400-$500 laptops is massive, and Apple could own it with an M1 Air in that range.

Sir, what your review on MacBook Air M1 base model ?

interesting scenario, I wish that my late 2019 15MCP didn't heat that much and the battery lasts more than 3 hours. so I still think about updating to m1. just believe that M1 is not fully optimized and necessary. Also lets keep on mind that Jeff Wilcox left Apple for Intel, and he was recognized for leading m1 to excel the transition of this processor, so what might be next ? would that affect ?

I’ve been saying this since the release of the M1 Pro and Max! Apple hasn’t had a lower lever machine with a large screen like on the PC side, which a lot of people would love to have! Let’s be honest, the M1 MacBook Air’s performance is great right now, with fantastic battery life and not everyone needs the full pro spec machine however, having a larger screen in a fan less design with improved performance over the current machine? Heck yeah, we would take that!

Whilst I was initially reluctant to accept a modest trade-in figure from Apple for my 2019 15" MBP, I do not regret for one moment shelling-out for the current 16" M1 Pro MBP. The Intel model was - to put it kindly - a buggy, loud, overheating, crash-prone embarrassment of what was supposed to be a premium, high-performance computer. It certainly did not deserve the 'Pro' moniker. You said so yourself in your October 15th video - effectively saying that the dirt-cheap prices for Intel models would reflect their undesirability. Certain software issues with Catalina and Big Sur didn't help matters either, and Time Machine on Monterey is currently a disgrace. Granted, the current 16" model is perhaps not the most versatile unit to incorporate into cabin luggage - certainly not when good quality protective cases - not sleeves - are nowhere to be found. I would argue, however, that the current 16" model is not necessarily meant for that, but rather for working-from-home professionals who don't necessarily see the point in a heavier - and much less portable - desktop. I would probably have chosen a 15" model if Apple had offered it with an M1 Pro chip, but I have no problem with the extra weight in the 16" model either.

What wallpaper are you using on the latest 16inch macbook?

What airplanes are you going on? I used to use my 17" MBP on them all the time no problem.

Clickbait as videos lmao

Let me get this straight when the 14 and a 16 inch M ones came out this year everybody including you were raving about them. They didn’t do anything revolutionary with the ports they just gave them back to you and the mag safe. and I’m sure to do that they had to beef it up a little bit make a little thicker. Everybody was impressed with the performance they were happy to have the ports back people loved the display the keyboard the trackpad and a few months later you’ve decided it’s too thick it’s too heavy? I enjoy your videos but I am a little confuse why you didn’t figure this in before you purchased one it seems like the 14 inch would’ve been better for you To use when you’re traveling.I’m glad Apple is making things a little thicker I’m glad the phones are a little thicker so we have more batteries I’m over the thin crap let’s make things a thin as we possibly can I’m past that if it’s a little thicker a little heavier but you get an advantage from it signed me up.like I said I’m just confuse people don’t think things through when they purchase something but that’s your choice you spent the money whatever makes you happy I certainly wouldn’t go backwards in performance

What is going on with the touchbar on the 15"? Is it just me or is it flickering?

What is so bad about the Touch Bar? I use it all the time and don't see/have any issues with it

This video makes no sense.

You're running out of video ideas Luke, we can see that! No one will choose intel over M1..only people who need specific x86 apps. End of the debate, have a nice day!

I would like to see yer old macbook pro vs. the M1 and just how different the results would be? But biggest for me is way to many complain of form over function. Emphasizing light,thin,bezeless over decent keyboard trackpad and internals of getting things done. I understand and yes aesthetics has a place. But for me I don't care of thinnest and lightest if it's going to choke on cpu throttling due to inferior thermals which also impacts longevity of battery life. Or has a bit of bezels as once I'm in the zone working and interacting with screen I don't even see the bezels anymore and has zero effect on my productivity. Attractive yes! Light & Thin yes! But at what price/sacrifice and the degree it impacts productivity and work times?

The size has definitely not been a drawback for me. I get the screen size I want and if I need to go anywhere with it, it easily fits in the backpack I was already using, and now I can comfortably use it without a monitor, unlike my 2017 13 inch. After a career change, my backpack has actually lightened up since this laptop is basically all I need. It also makes for an awesome secondary display next to my monitor, which I never bothered to do with the 13 inch because it was so small. Performance is probably overkill for me, but it also won't be struggling in less than 5 years like my 13 inch was with basic tasks.

I have 4yr old macbookpro 2018 , and i dont have any issue on keyboard it works fine to me,, i think it depends on the user on how they use the keyboard

Thanks for the video! There are three bad things in MacBook Pro 15 which might be sensitive for users when we jump back to 15 from 16-inch model: the sound (old 15-inch laptops sounds MUCH worse), the keyboard ("Escape" on the touch bar? Brrr....), and the screen bezels (yep, on 15inch they are much thicker than on 16 inch).

I’m sorry for this question but where’s your lamp standing in back from? 🥺☺️

Where I can found and download wallpaper on this Mac?

I bought the mysterious liquid damaged 2016 MBP 15” from you in April of 2020. It’s replaced my previous daily driver, a Dell XPS 9570. Sounds like a step in the wrong direction, but surprisingly not. I needed a gateway into the Apple ecosystem. My biggest gripe thus so far has been thermals and battery life, both of which were worse on the XPS 9570. Recently improved these by repasting the CPU and GPU. Performance wise, it’s kept on crunching my 18 megapixel raw files with no problems. It’s decent, but the M1 Pro and M1 Max is overkill for me as a student. Till the next one.

I am with you I have a 2017 i7 Macbook pro and I always like it, besides the flaws of the butterfly keyboard that never got fail to me, and when I saw the new MacBook Pro 14 inch I said maybe would go for that but I don't need so much power so I was thinking on getting a Macbook Air M1 and probably will but if apple gives us a 15" I definitely go for that enough power to beat anybody else but with a smaller footprint.

I've the exact same 16" M1 Max as you and.... I love it

does m1 air has bluetooth/wifi issues on monteray?